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@@ -36,6 +36,8 @@ into your Zettelkasten then. Is that what's happening?
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Well, I can start you off.
+NOTE Q: What do you use for the fancy animations?
+
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The first question is, I wonder what they use for the fancy animations.
@@ -162,6 +164,8 @@ And the stack, the stack is Apple Keynote, sorry.
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Okay, that's enough. Thank you for capturing.
+NOTE Q: Are you not a fan of using *, **, *** headings in org-mode?
+
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Are you not a fan? Okay. You saw this in the recording.
@@ -196,7 +200,7 @@ It's interesting to see how people have different styles of writing org content.
Am I not? What exactly? What did I do?
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-And nodes, just open one of these.
+And notes, just open one of these.
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Okay. I could see how you could, in examples like this,
@@ -247,7 +251,7 @@ I mean, or even headings.
The only heading here is the title,
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-like in my perception of this node,
+like in my perception of this note,
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and it's one, It's two lists.
@@ -343,12 +347,12 @@ but I'm going to stop copying them in because I lose time.
I want to reply to you, folks.
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-Didn't see a need for a rack constructor.
+Didn't see a need for hierarchical structure.
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Thank you for capturing this. Next question.
-NOTE Can you use org files and all its features inside Denote?
+NOTE Q: Can you use org files and all its features inside Denote?
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Can you use org files and all its features inside Denote?
@@ -369,7 +373,7 @@ And with org, you get these attributes,
value attribute thingies
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-that are then the metadata for the node.
+that are then the metadata for the note.
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So yeah, the answer is yes. You get everything and on top,
@@ -380,7 +384,7 @@ a small layer of a link, link management.
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That's all there is.
-NOTE Where or how do you like to capture fleeting notes?
+NOTE Q: Where or how do you like to capture fleeting notes?
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Next question is, where or how do you like to capture fleeting notes?
@@ -419,25 +423,25 @@ isn't very descriptive. So what else do you say there?
And people have said a couple of things
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-to define non-fleeting nodes, for example, permanent nodes.
+to define non-fleeting notes, for example, permanent notes.
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I guess that's a Sonke Ahrens,
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-permanent nodes is the most popular.
+permanent notes is the most popular.
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Let's stay with that, stick with that.
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-So if you have permanent nodes and fleeting nodes,
+So if you have permanent notes and fleeting notes,
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-now we have two types of nodes. The thing is, in books,
+now we have two types of notes. The thing is, in books,
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-the only, when we would talk about note-taking
+the only... when we would talk about note-taking
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and you would ask me, hey Christian,
@@ -458,7 +462,7 @@ I would pull out a book,
this is Object-Oriented Software Engineering,
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-interesting book by Iva Jacobson or Iva, Iva,
+interesting book by Ivar Jacobson.
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I'm not sure because, you know,
@@ -475,26 +479,26 @@ are actual paper notes square what are these three by something inch
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American standard size I guess
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+00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:25.964
and A6 minus the tariff part
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-from from another notepad these are notes i took engagement notes
+00:09:25.965 --> 00:09:31.174
+from another notepad. These are notes I took, engagement notes
-00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.439
-if you will like engagement notes
+00:09:31.175 --> 00:09:32.439
+if you will, like engagement notes,
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-because the margins of the book don't suffice to take
+because the margins of the book don't suffice to take,
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-and this is related to i need more space so this is more space
+and this is related to... I need more space, so this is more space.
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-these are fleeting
+These are fleeting.
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-and as you see I have them in my pile of books
+As you see, I have them in my pile of books
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right next to me in the shelf
@@ -503,7 +507,7 @@ right next to me in the shelf
and folded them in this piece of paper,
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-labeled it with the author because I lost them.
+labeled it with the author because I lost them
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couple of times they just fell out
@@ -610,6 +614,8 @@ I'm not going to talk about these
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unless someone asks a question.
+NOTE Q: Zettelkasten feels like a very "cagey" approach to note-taking and knowledge management. Doesn't it restrict one to think in certain ways rather than what feels natural to someone?
+
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Zettelkasten feels like a very cagey approach
@@ -823,14 +829,19 @@ I'm feeling like stuck at this and that.
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And then other people will be able to relate.
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-I can promise. How does it denote, question mark maybe,
+00:15:03.920 --> 00:15:07.327
+I can promise.
+
+NOTE Q: How does denote compare to org-roam?
+
+00:15:07.328 --> 00:15:10.279
+How does it denote, question mark maybe,
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compared to org-roam?
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-Roam research was setting a new trend of connectiveness
+Roam Research was setting a new trend of connectiveness
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because you could create recursive structures with links
@@ -872,7 +883,7 @@ when people told their stories of how they used it.
I guess you can use this tool for a lot of purposes,
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-but the prevailing story of the Rome style note-taking tools
+but the prevailing story of the Roam-style note-taking tools
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was like, just dump everything in it.
@@ -917,15 +928,15 @@ and that many months old when you did this.
So we have some reference parts. And I could put this kind
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-of factual information, et cetera, custom,
+of factual information in Zettelkasten,
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but also, like, what if I have a toothache or whatever,
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+00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:44.924
and just want to gather data for whatever reason?
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+00:16:44.925 --> 00:16:52.119
I don't know. Like this kind of personal stuff.
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@@ -938,7 +949,7 @@ in a tool that I want to use to think.
I do see the appeal there.
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-But anyway, the org-roam, like that's a roam part.
+But anyway, the org-roam, like that's a Roam part.
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You can watch a lot of videos
@@ -1030,50 +1041,52 @@ but I'm very happy that org-roam still exists
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because I think porting tools into emacs is very cool,
+NOTE Q: I noticed that the wikipedia link you wrote was typed wrongly - and it got me thinking about how to deal with broken links at scale? Do you have any thoughts on this? What about archival?
+
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I guess next question,
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+00:18:27.560 --> 00:18:29.174
I noticed that the wikipedia link you wrote
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+00:18:29.175 --> 00:18:38.632
was typed wrongly, oh no garbage in, garbage out,
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-I think garbage in, garbage out, garbage well spotted
+00:18:38.633 --> 00:18:45.079
+I think garbage in, garbage out, garbage well spotted.
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-how do you do that oh I typed it
+How do you do that? Oh, I typed it
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-I typed it from yeah right i didn't
+I typed it from... Yeah, right. I didn't,
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-i didn't paste this right yeah yeah
+I didn't paste this. Right. Yeah, yeah.
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-this janitorial tasks that's the umbrella term
+Janitorial tasks, that's the umbrella term.
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-how do you deal with this
+How do you deal with this?
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-like if you put stuff like this into into your notes
+Like if you put stuff like this into your notes,
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you hopefully get a 404 code from wikipedia
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-because the page doesn't exist
+00:19:05.760 --> 00:19:06.859
+because the page doesn't exist.
-00:19:07.560 --> 00:19:11.999
-let's not check um you get a 404 and then you could write a tool
+00:19:06.860 --> 00:19:11.999
+Let's now check. You get a 404, and then you could write a tool
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that checks all the links periodically
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-and tells you about broken links like a broken link checker
+and tells you about broken links, like a broken link checker
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that then looks up maybe automatically
@@ -1085,19 +1098,19 @@ the last good version on archive.org
and then the Wayback Machine
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-and then corrects the link with the archived version
+and then corrects the link with the archived version,
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-because the live one is gone like this happens all the time on the internet
+because the live one is gone. This happens all the time on the Internet.
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-and even if you don't mistype
+Even if you don't mistype,
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-you could you know things go out of out of order so
+you could... you know things go out of order so
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-What do you do with that? You need to automate this.
+what do you do with that? You need to automate this.
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I'm not clicking every link manually.
@@ -1108,10 +1121,10 @@ I have like, what's it now, 11,000 notes or something.
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This is not a thing that humans are good at.
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+00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:52.279
I'm not good at this.
-00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:55.359
+00:19:52.280 --> 00:19:55.359
I will never finish anything else if I do this manually.
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@@ -1133,7 +1146,7 @@ and that should help.
You could automate this in Emacs, of course, right?
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-For every file in my node directory,
+For every file in my note directory,
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look if there's a link inside
@@ -1142,7 +1155,7 @@ look if there's a link inside
and then check the URL or whatever.
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-Also works for inter-node connections.
+Also works for inter-note connections.
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This could also break if you rename files or remove files
@@ -1169,13 +1182,13 @@ and you need to deal with mistakes
and heal and create scar tissue there in some way
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-so write janitorial tools to do that it's also,
+so write janitorial tools to do that. It's also,
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-i'm mentioning the term janitorial tools
+I'm mentioning the term janitorial tools
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-a couple of times now
+a couple of times now,
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because that's the term that we in the forums at least
@@ -1187,10 +1200,10 @@ usually talk about things like find orphaned notes,
notes that no one links to find broken links,
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-clean up references reformat nodes, stuff like this.
+clean up references reformat notes, stuff like this.
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-Find large nodes and then suggest them
+Find large notes and then suggest them
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to the user to break them up.
@@ -1198,23 +1211,25 @@ to the user to break them up.
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Like these are tasks that you can do mechanically,
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+00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:16.382
but also it's better if you use a tool to get started,
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+00:21:16.383 --> 00:21:20.590
otherwise you waste a lot of time.
-00:21:27.520 --> 00:21:35.199
+NOTE Comment: When I completely re-worked my config some two years ago, I also tried out some of these packages for making notes in Emacs...
+
+00:21:20.591 --> 00:21:26.632
Next question, when I complete, next long question.
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-I'm going to copy this over because maybe
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+I'm going to copy this over because maybe...
-00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:42.399
-When I completely reworked my configs from two years ago,
+00:21:34.965 --> 00:21:42.399
+"when I completely reworked my configs from two years ago,
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-I also tried some of these packages for making nodes,
+I also tried some of these packages for making notes,
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but none of them actually fit my purpose,
@@ -1256,19 +1271,25 @@ when I took them time structures my thought and my notes
but they would get lost if I split them up in a network
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-like structure like a wiki etc custom my two cents
+like structure like a wiki, Zettelkasten my two cents
-00:22:22.800 --> 00:22:32.239
+00:22:22.800 --> 00:22:24.715
by the way I work on legal sociological topics
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-i'm a lawyer by training you know Luhmann was a german german style
+00:22:24.716 --> 00:22:29.452
+I'm a lawyer by training."
+
+00:22:29.453 --> 00:22:34.590
+You know, Luhmann was a German-style
+
+00:22:34.591 --> 00:22:35.632
+weird sociologist,
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-weird sociologist
+00:22:35.633 --> 00:22:41.048
+and sociology studies are
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-and sociology studies are like the first four semesters at university,
+00:22:41.049 --> 00:22:43.999
+like the first four semesters at university,
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where a lot of, I don't know any of the terms in English,
@@ -1289,7 +1310,7 @@ but nobody knew because they were not empirically backed.
Some were empirically backed,
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-and then also there was some sense making.
+and then also there was some sense-making.
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And then also in sociology,
@@ -1328,7 +1349,7 @@ or whatever it was called
where she just dumped everything inside
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-for her next project like an idea box,
+for her next project, like an idea box,
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like real physical things like oh, I want to, I don't know,
@@ -1369,6 +1390,8 @@ Sorry, I jumped. So my answer is, this was not a question,
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and I'm happy for you. So that's still an answer.
+NOTE Q: How Zettelkasten is useful for highly mathematical STEM academic fields like computer science or engineering fields?
+
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Next question. How Zettelkasten is useful
@@ -1432,35 +1455,35 @@ that people did over hundreds of years for you.
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That's an order. But there are also many textbooks.
-00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:42.759
+00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:42.059
So opinions may vary. The presentation may vary.
-00:25:42.760 --> 00:25:48.279
+00:25:42.060 --> 00:25:43.674
Some textbooks may click with you,
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+00:25:43.675 --> 00:26:04.559
while others stay opaque, and you can't get into the meat.
-00:25:59.360 --> 00:26:04.599
+00:26:04.560 --> 00:26:12.919
Sorry, I'm just typing the answer right now.
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+00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:17.379
Copying information to another box is not, yeah.
-00:26:13.320 --> 00:26:17.719
+00:26:17.380 --> 00:26:19.090
Yeah, let's see what the first answer is.
-00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:21.559
+00:26:19.091 --> 00:26:21.559
Someone posted that Zettelkasten is great for mathematics,
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incredible for computer science.
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-With OrgBabel you can have living source code, yes,
+With Org-Babel you can have living source code, yes,
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-that you can execute from the node,
+that you can execute from the note,
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also true for a formula,
@@ -1475,7 +1498,7 @@ You can even use Agda if you want to.
Ah, I think I know who typed the answer.
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-Hello, Oliver. If you want to have living proofs in your nodes,
+Hello, Oliver. If you want to have living proofs in your notes,
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even inline LaTeX is in here. That's, yeah, yeah, yeah.
@@ -1490,13 +1513,13 @@ maybe your own summary.
I would suggest add your own summary
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-because we're looking at the etherpad, right?
+because we're looking at the Etherpad, right?
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-Maybe I just copy this over so you can all the either
+Maybe I just copy this over so you can all...
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-pets indentation is missing with what Org is doing.
+The Etherpad's indentation is missing with what Org is doing.
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And the answer was probably submitted by Oliver
@@ -1505,40 +1528,43 @@ And the answer was probably submitted by Oliver
just in case someone wants to see
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-who that could have been with the Acta reference
+who that could have been with the Agda reference
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-because nobody uses Acta,
+because nobody uses Agda,
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-nobody in the world maybe so Acta is just a yeah
+nobody in the world maybe. So Agda is just a, yeah,
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let's say it's good for proofing the code that you type
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-as you type it in the compilation set very weird
+as you type it in the compilation set, very weird
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-if you've never heard of this so check that out
+if you've never heard of this, so check that out.
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-so question was how Zettelkasten is useful for these kinds of things
+So question was how Zettelkasten is useful for these kinds of things
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yeah it sounds like in these kinds of fields
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-that you only deal with facts
+that you only deal with facts.
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-that's also kind of sort of true for psychology where you have a lot of
+That's also kind of sort of true for psychology where you have a lot of,
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-and also law where you at least in at least in German
+and also law, where you at least in German
+
+00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.011
+and our style of law where you have a lot of,
-00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.759
-and our style of law where you have a lot of where you have thick books of law
+00:28:32.012 --> 00:28:33.759
+where you have thick books of law
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and very very little records,
@@ -1546,11 +1572,17 @@ and very very little records,
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that's not the right phrasing,
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-where you don't rely on the ruling as much as you do in, for example, the USA,
+00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:44.540
+where you don't rely on the ruling
+
+00:28:44.541 --> 00:28:48.239
+as much as you do in, for example, the USA,
-00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:53.919
-where you need to be aware of every court ruling to then put stuff into context
+00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:52.674
+where you need to be aware of every court ruling
+
+00:28:52.675 --> 00:28:53.919
+to then put stuff into context
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and all of this is like the current how you do law.
@@ -1862,13 +1894,13 @@ and you still have access to this later
when you need to check your personal inventory
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-of mathematical proofs so my answer would be
+of mathematical proofs so my answer would be...
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-let's type in my answer
+Let's type in my answer
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-on either pad would be I'm not able to type.
+on Etherpad would be... I'm not able to type.
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Sorry. My answer would be this.
@@ -1972,11 +2004,11 @@ and it's not just copying the thing into a box,
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like from one box into another,
-00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:53.879
+00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:54.019
from the public internet box into my own buffer,
-00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:56.399
-that's a custom that's closer to me,
+00:36:54.020 --> 00:36:56.399
+that Zettelkasten that's closer to me,
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like a fridge is closer to my kitchen
@@ -2101,26 +2133,28 @@ Just check it out for yourself. I'm not sure.
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:40.959
Next question, sorry.
+NOTE Q: In your experience, would you say that you re-use most of your notes?
+
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-In your experience, would you say that you reuse most of your nodes?
+In your experience, would you say that you reuse most of your notes?
00:39:45.640 --> 00:39:47.959
-Watching your demo, I thought that more nodes you create,
+Watching your demo, I thought that more notes you create,
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:51.279
the less you might reuse them. Yes, that's true.
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-I have 11,000 nodes or something,
+I have 11,000 notes or something,
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-and I don't use 11,000 nodes every day.
+and I don't use 11,000 notes every day.
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I can only use a fraction of them.
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-But let's say you have the Feynman Darling nodes,
+But let's say you have the Feynman Darling notes,
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then you would probably use these.
@@ -2132,7 +2166,7 @@ Imagine you have the same 12 Darlings for a year.
Then you use these 12 thingies for one year more often.
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-than most of your other nodes,
+than most of your other notes,
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because these become your entry points
@@ -2167,11 +2201,11 @@ maybe these 12 Feynman darlings were your darlings
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during university studies for STEM field,
-00:40:47.720 --> 00:40:49.479
+00:40:47.720 --> 00:40:49.339
where you had a hard time figuring out
-00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.479
-how the technical system works for your benefit.
+00:40:49.340 --> 00:40:52.479
+how the Zettelkasten works for your benefit.
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:56.279
And then five years later, you're in a job and you don't need all of them
@@ -2342,7 +2376,7 @@ where do you want to put the effort? and will it pay off?
maybe if not, then maybe spend the time on something else
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-like don't try to exactly customize something you hate
+like don't try to Zettelkastenify something you hate
00:43:57.120 --> 00:43:59.519
just to I don't know,
@@ -2354,13 +2388,15 @@ do your due diligence if you don't want to
because then you'll hate the process
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-that's worse than not using nodes a lot next questions,
+that's worse than not using notes a lot. Next question.
+
+NOTE Q: How are notes structured and accessed when the notes grow from 10K to 100K notes?
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.719
-how are nodes structured and accessed
+How are notes structured and accessed
00:44:17.720 --> 00:44:20.639
-when the nodes grow from 10k to 100k nodes?
+when the notes grow from 10k to 100k notes?
00:44:20.640 --> 00:44:22.119
yes, that's a field of exploration,
@@ -2369,7 +2405,7 @@ yes, that's a field of exploration,
I mean that the lower realm there I don't know anybody
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-who's using a hyperlinked 100k node archive.
+who's using a hyperlinked 100k note archive.
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:37.239
I do know people who have a lot of text files
@@ -2414,10 +2450,10 @@ I'm thinking about the stuff that I'm spending time on.
What about that?
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:20.639
-Yeah, how are nodes structured and accessed
+Yeah, how are notes structured and accessed
00:45:20.640 --> 00:45:22.919
-when the nodes go from one to 100k?
+when the notes go from one to 100k?
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:31.399
I will imagine that it becomes a matter that's speculation.
@@ -2432,7 +2468,7 @@ it's going to be self-similar, like Mandelbrot images,
where you have recursive patterns.
00:45:43.200 --> 00:45:46.519
-First, you have a couple of nodes.
+First, you have a couple of notes.
00:45:46.520 --> 00:45:49.759
You can leave through them digitally or physically easily.
@@ -2456,7 +2492,7 @@ And the clue there is,
Eventually, you have hundreds or maybe thousands,
00:46:10.160 --> 00:46:12.359
-not hundreds or thousands, of structure nodes.
+not hundreds or thousands, of structure notes.
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:13.959
And then you have the same problem
@@ -2468,13 +2504,13 @@ that you had on the lower base layer.
And now you will probably look for another tool.
00:46:19.200 --> 00:46:22.759
-But there is nothing else that's not also a structure node
+But there is nothing else that's not also a structure note
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.799
but is structuring other structures mostly
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:28.119
-instead of structuring the low-level nodes.
+instead of structuring the low-level notes.
00:46:28.120 --> 00:46:31.719
But this distinction, I want to point out, doesn't pay off.
@@ -2483,25 +2519,25 @@ But this distinction, I want to point out, doesn't pay off.
it seems like it doesn't pay off
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.319
-to say hey i have these foundational permanent nodes
+to say hey I have these foundational permanent notes
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:38.759
-and then i have these meta nodes
+And then I have these meta notes,
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:40.519
-these these maps and structures
+these maps and structures
00:46:40.520 --> 00:46:42.759
-and then i have these super mega structures
+and then I have these super mega structures
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:44.159
-which are not permanent
+which are not permanent,
00:46:44.160 --> 00:46:45.519
-which are not structures which are not
+which are not structures, which are not...
00:46:45.520 --> 00:46:47.919
-I don't know this doesn't seem to pay off
+I don't know... This doesn't seem to pay off,
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because eventually there is another level and another level
@@ -2626,6 +2662,8 @@ and then see how people transparently evolve
00:48:50.040 --> 00:48:55.159
their gardens, their processes, their note-taking systems
+NOTE Q: I would be very interested in your thought on this video by Westenberg - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjSWwmg-JRM (Why I Deleted My Second Brain: A Journey Back to Real Thinking)
+
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next question not a question but i would be very interested
@@ -2633,16 +2671,16 @@ next question not a question but i would be very interested
in your thoughts on this video
00:49:01.560 --> 00:49:07.039
-by westenberg okay it's it's this is not spam
+by Westenberg. Okay. This is not spam.
00:49:07.040 --> 00:49:13.959
-i i don't uh there's joe westenberg's uh youtube channel
+I don't... Uh, there's Joe Westenberg's Youtube channel,
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:15.319
-why i deleted my second brain
+"Why I Deleted My Second Brain:
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:22.679
-a journey back to real thinking uh
+A Journey Back to Real Thinking."
00:49:22.680 --> 00:49:30.319
I think I didn't watch the video but read an article.
@@ -2656,17 +2694,17 @@ It's not on screen sharing. That was stupid.
00:49:36.216 --> 00:49:48.239
I'm probably not going to watch it right now with everyone here,
-00:49:48.240 --> 00:49:53.479
+00:49:48.240 --> 00:49:51.659
so my thoughts on deleting and stuff like that.
-00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:58.679
+00:49:51.660 --> 00:49:58.679
I do remember there was a very cleverly written, well-written post
00:49:58.680 --> 00:50:02.719
and the claim was, from my perspective,
00:50:02.720 --> 00:50:04.919
-and that's not doing the work of
+and that's not doing the work of...
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:13.199
It's not doing the work of the author justice.
@@ -2894,7 +2932,7 @@ Now we come back to one of the earlier questions,
like, why do I not use outlines?
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:03.039
-Because OrgNode allows me to do outlines.
+Because Org-node allows me to do outlines.
00:54:03.040 --> 00:54:06.319
Well, I try to write my notes as blog posts,
@@ -3013,14 +3051,14 @@ maybe maybe they tried to do too much with a different mindset
00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:24.839
and it just didn't click and then they,
-00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.199
+00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:25.519
you know next question is there a danger?
-00:56:27.200 --> 00:56:41.959
+00:56:25.520 --> 00:56:34.340
also, wait a second, answer do not probably a lot of collection,
-00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:52.359
-not a lot of stinking in the Zettelkasten to some purpose.
+00:56:34.341 --> 00:56:52.359
+not a lot of thinking in the Zettelkasten to some purpose.
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:58.700
Usually. Conflation was the word I was fishing for.
@@ -3028,14 +3066,14 @@ Usually. Conflation was the word I was fishing for.
00:56:58.701 --> 00:57:02.840
Usually posts videos like this.
-00:57:02.841 --> 00:57:10.090
-Conflate note taking as a dumping ground
+00:57:02.841 --> 00:57:15.049
+Conflate note taking as a dumping ground for stuff
-00:57:10.091 --> 00:57:22.174
-for stuff with something that is valuable in the long term.
+00:57:15.050 --> 00:57:22.174
+with something that is valuable in the long term.
00:57:22.175 --> 00:57:27.599
-Also if this was our dear friend Westenberg
+Also, if this was our dear friend Westenberg
00:57:27.600 --> 00:57:30.439
I think the note count also was higher,
@@ -3070,8 +3108,10 @@ you really want to solve in the long term.
00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:59.159
So next question.
+NOTE Q: Is there a danger that with the Zettelkasten process, that the process gets a bit in the way of the content?
+
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-Is there a danger that with the settled custom process,
+Is there a danger that with the Zettelkasten process,
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:05.679
that the process gets a bit in the way of the content?
@@ -3134,7 +3174,7 @@ having a title, hashtags, and content,
and also being very, very careful about quoting my sources.
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-I don't do much with my et cetera.
+I don't do much with my Zettelkasten.
00:59:35.640 --> 00:59:37.679
I cannot give up quoting my sources
@@ -3148,56 +3188,56 @@ forgetting where I get ideas from and confuse.
00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:44.599
And I get out because I'm aware of the problem there.
-00:59:44.600 --> 00:59:47.599
+00:59:44.600 --> 00:59:49.439
I'm also not trusting my own notes anymore.
-00:59:47.600 --> 00:59:51.159
-would not be trusting my own notes anymore
+00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:51.159
+I would not be trusting my own notes anymore.
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-i need to properly cite so then i can see hey
+I need to properly cite so then I can see, hey,
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:56.559
-this block has no quotations that's mine
+this block has no quotations, that's mine,
00:59:56.560 --> 01:00:00.559
-and i can trust this it's not like hey this is maybe mine
+and I can trust this. It's not like, hey, this is maybe mine,
01:00:00.560 --> 01:00:04.039
-maybe this is a verbatim quote from a book like this
+maybe this is a verbatim quote from a book. Like this
01:00:04.040 --> 01:00:05.799
-is not helping that's a ceremony
+is not helping. That's a ceremony
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:09.039
-that's paying off in the long term also
+that's paying off in the long term also,
01:00:09.040 --> 01:00:11.319
-so that when you write something
+so that when you write something,
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:15.159
-you have all the sources at hand
+you have all the sources at hand.
-01:00:15.160 --> 01:00:17.279
-that's a useful ceremony title
+01:00:15.160 --> 01:00:16.882
+That's a useful ceremony.
-01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:20.799
-is just a way of summarizing the content
+01:00:16.883 --> 01:00:20.799
+Title is just a way of summarizing the content.
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:25.119
-do it like an excerpt, right?
+Do it like an excerpt, right?
01:00:25.120 --> 01:00:26.919
-you have the whole content, that's your etc.
+You have the whole content, that's your Zettel.
01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:29.879
-do a short summary, that may be your introduction.
+Do a short summary, that may be your introduction.
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:33.239
So have a way to quickly get a glimpse of the relevance
01:00:33.240 --> 01:00:35.919
-before having to read the whole settle
+before having to read the whole Zettel
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.719
when you encounter it years from now.
@@ -3212,7 +3252,7 @@ and then have an even more condensed form that's a title.
The title is basically your API,
01:00:45.680 --> 01:00:49.359
-the interface for you and your nodes.
+the interface for you and your notes.
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:54.879
And it needs to uphold some kind of contract.
@@ -3253,14 +3293,14 @@ titles don't always stay consistent or constant
01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:31.079
that's why I don't link by title, because I would then need
-01:01:31.080 --> 01:01:34.279
-to go through my node archive and also need to go to
+01:01:31.080 --> 01:01:39.299
+to go through my note archive and also need to go to
-01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:39.999
-my node archive and need to correct all the links
+01:01:39.300 --> 01:01:41.090
+my note archive and need to correct all the links.
-01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:44.039
-that's a janitorial task I like to not do, if I can
+01:01:41.091 --> 01:01:44.039
+That's a janitorial task I like to not do, if I can.
01:01:44.040 --> 01:01:49.759
So answer here, less ceremony, fewer ceremonies, plural.
@@ -3269,7 +3309,7 @@ So answer here, less ceremony, fewer ceremonies, plural.
Try to only do the minimum possible, minimum viable thing.
01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:57.599
-And using Emacs and D-Node, you get a lot of defaults.
+And using Emacs and Denote, you get a lot of defaults.
01:01:57.600 --> 01:01:58.719
And then you need to worry
@@ -3314,10 +3354,10 @@ in the search results all the time.
That's not as useful as having a pathway
01:02:45.680 --> 01:02:49.559
-through your nodes that you can follow.
+through your notes that you can follow.
01:02:49.560 --> 01:02:52.039
-It may not be a pathway through all of your nodes, of course,
+It may not be a pathway through all of your notes, of course,
01:02:52.040 --> 01:02:56.159
but it may be a pathway from entry point into some topic.
@@ -3343,8 +3383,10 @@ more or less, and then you're good.
01:03:15.240 --> 01:03:20.639
I hope. Wishing you all the best. Next and last question.
+NOTE Q: How do you navigate looking at all posts with certain tags
+
01:03:20.640 --> 01:03:24.519
-How do you navigate looking at all posts with a certain text?
+How do you navigate looking at all posts with certain tags?
01:03:24.520 --> 01:03:26.679
This might be an emacs, already new to emacs.
@@ -3352,23 +3394,23 @@ This might be an emacs, already new to emacs.
01:03:26.680 --> 01:03:28.679
I just may have answered this.
-01:03:28.680 --> 01:03:40.159
-How do you navigate looking at all posts with a certain text?
+01:03:28.680 --> 01:03:31.799
+How do you navigate looking at all posts with certain tags?
-01:03:40.160 --> 01:03:42.959
-Let me go to my actual node archive.
+01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:43.215
+Let me go to my actual note archive,
-01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:55.919
-and then php no language learning ah
+01:03:43.216 --> 01:03:55.919
+and then php, no, language learning, ah,
01:03:55.920 --> 01:03:59.319
-this is not my setup I'm very clumsy
+this is not a nice setup. I'm very clumsy.
01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:03.119
-I'm sorry, I don't know swift language learning
+I'm sorry, I don't know, swift, language learning,
01:04:03.120 --> 01:04:28.465
-ah that's that's a boring one php By this time, I could have also,
+ah that's a boring one, php. By this time, I could have also,
01:04:28.466 --> 01:04:35.299
ah, there's the model. This would be an entry point
@@ -3512,7 +3554,7 @@ Why do I show this when the question is about tags?
Because if I search for... Which one do I take?
01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:22.719
-Let's try grep. php. Yep, grep exited the anomaly.
+Let's try grep. php. Yep, grep exited abnormally.
01:07:22.720 --> 01:07:28.039
Dang, why? Option requires an argument.
@@ -3611,7 +3653,7 @@ And the hashtag-based search would be I don't know what I'm looking for.
It was PHP related. I hope I use the hashtag correctly
01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:36.879
-and then kill all these nodes from my archive.
+and then kill all these notes from my archive.
01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:38.959
The metaphor doesn't work that way,
@@ -3620,7 +3662,7 @@ The metaphor doesn't work that way,
but still you get a lot of results here
01:09:41.280 --> 01:09:45.959
-and you could use this as a way to filter from 11,000 nodes
+and you could use this as a way to filter from 11,000 notes
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:53.559
down to 50 or so, maybe less.
@@ -3629,10 +3671,10 @@ down to 50 or so, maybe less.
And if you got this far, then you can start to do it in a mechanical way again.
01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:05.279
-But wait, if you have 100 or 1000 nodes in the results there,
+But wait, if you have 100 or 1000 notes in the results there,
01:10:05.280 --> 01:10:08.279
-then you can't mechanically go through all the nodes again.
+then you can't mechanically go through all the notes again.
01:10:08.280 --> 01:10:09.919
You can maybe skim and look
@@ -3713,7 +3755,7 @@ but they're also not closely interrelated,
you will have read five to 10 different sources that you could process.
01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:36.319
-You could maybe then also create an overview node
+You could maybe then also create an overview note
01:11:36.320 --> 01:11:38.359
as a preparation for the seminar
@@ -3725,7 +3767,7 @@ whatever happens at university.
Then the hashtag becomes just a way to group things.
01:11:51.200 --> 01:11:52.479
-But once you create the structure node,
+But once you create the structure note,
01:11:52.480 --> 01:11:55.039
you don't need the hashtags to navigate anymore.
@@ -3910,17 +3952,17 @@ I think these are all the questions.
01:15:44.080 --> 01:15:47.159
I'm going to delete the leftover ones.
-01:15:47.160 --> 01:15:52.439
+01:15:47.160 --> 01:15:54.719
I hope you enjoyed some of the answers.
-01:15:52.440 --> 01:15:58.159
+01:15:54.720 --> 01:16:01.174
Thank you so much. Thank you. That's a lot.
-01:15:58.160 --> 01:16:02.759
-We'll go back and get everything transcribed as well
+01:16:01.175 --> 01:16:04.674
+We'll go back and get everything transcribed as well,
-01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:08.599
-and then you can turn that into other articles in the future
+01:16:04.675 --> 01:16:08.599
+and then you can turn that into other articles in the future,
01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:10.119
because that's how this all works, right?
@@ -3941,7 +3983,7 @@ It's only useful to transfer language before writing,
but now you can just read.
01:16:26.280 --> 01:16:29.719
-We have two people in the big blue button room
+We have two people in the Big Blue Button room
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:33.799
who are still around, but I think they've got their, like,
@@ -3953,7 +3995,7 @@ they don't have microphones set up.
So I don't know if you want to just, like, CryptKNFL,
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:44.339
-if you want to just follow up through the etherpad,
+if you want to just follow up through the Etherpadmp,
01:16:44.340 --> 01:16:47.639
or email, I guess, in case you have further questions.