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+Yes. All right. Take it away. Thank you, Christian. Thank you, too.
+
+00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:09.359
+If you could have the pad open at the same time,
+
+00:00:09.360 --> 00:00:11.319
+you can read the questions.
+
+00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:13.639
+Or I can start reading some to you while I'm here.
+
+00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:14.959
+Oh, no. I can read them.
+
+00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:21.599
+I was wondering whether I should maybe copy them into a new buffer.
+
+00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:30.159
+So they are also on screen. Increase the font size a bit.
+
+00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:39.839
+So I'm trying to do this on the fly.
+
+00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:41.279
+Maybe a bad idea. Let's see.
+
+00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:42.519
+Of course, you're going to capture it
+
+00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:45.879
+into your Zettelkasten then. Is that what's happening?
+
+00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:49.559
+Well, I can start you off.
+
+00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:56.279
+The first question is, I wonder what they use for the fancy animations.
+
+00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:59.559
+I was thinking about this because that's the first question
+
+00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:00.959
+and I was thinking about this
+
+00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:02.599
+while I copied this stuff over.
+
+00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:09.359
+What part is the fancy part?
+
+00:01:09.360 --> 00:01:13.079
+I can recommend books, like if anyone wants to have book recommendations
+
+00:01:13.080 --> 00:01:18.039
+for how to make presentations with PowerPoint-like software
+
+00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:22.999
+in a very simple way, we taught this at university.
+
+00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:25.559
+was it now, some 15 years ago,
+
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+to students to make animation abuse
+
+00:01:28.800 --> 00:01:32.439
+where everything was flashy and typed in or something.
+
+00:01:32.440 --> 00:01:36.679
+Don't do this, but instead do a couple of very simple tasteful things
+
+00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:41.959
+like fading through colors like filmmakers do, right?
+
+00:01:41.960 --> 00:01:44.199
+Fading through black to make a scene cut
+
+00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:47.839
+or just fade between things, the fanciness.
+
+00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:53.759
+Presentation software stack, the fanciness.
+
+00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:55.079
+I didn't dial fanciness up,
+
+00:01:55.080 --> 00:02:00.239
+I just resorted to a very simple fade animations,
+
+00:02:00.240 --> 00:02:04.719
+like fading stuff in and wipe, I think, for text effects.
+
+00:02:04.720 --> 00:02:06.879
+That was it, more or less.
+
+00:02:06.880 --> 00:02:09.959
+And for the lines, maybe the lines are fancy.
+
+00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:14.679
+I was using Apple Keynote because I'm fastest with that,
+
+00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:19.079
+but I also usually, we taught this workshop with PowerPoint
+
+00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:23.319
+and I think the LibreOffice stack got much better with that
+
+00:02:23.320 --> 00:02:24.239
+as well in the recent years,
+
+00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:26.279
+but I haven't tried that in a long time
+
+00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:31.599
+to like fiddle around and find all the knobs to dial.
+
+00:02:31.600 --> 00:02:34.719
+Because the Apple presentation thingy has this nice feature
+
+00:02:34.720 --> 00:02:37.079
+where you draw an arrow with a tip,
+
+00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:41.039
+and then you have a special animation for line drawing,
+
+00:02:41.040 --> 00:02:42.439
+which is only available for line art.
+
+00:02:42.440 --> 00:02:45.559
+And then it draws the arrow that moves around like that.
+
+00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:48.079
+So yeah, presentation stack, Apple Keynote,
+
+00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:52.559
+probably not of interest for anyone here.
+
+00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:56.439
+I usually don't use plain text presentation stuff, right?
+
+00:02:56.440 --> 00:03:03.319
+So I tried this, I tried this with markdown presentations,
+
+00:03:03.320 --> 00:03:08.319
+slidey things, org presentation.
+
+00:03:08.320 --> 00:03:12.879
+It's always not enough control for the fiddly things
+
+00:03:12.880 --> 00:03:17.959
+that I'm interested in to make the experience great.
+
+00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:20.199
+So I wonder what are the fancy animations.
+
+00:03:20.200 --> 00:03:25.439
+And the stack, the stack is Apple Keynote, sorry.
+
+00:03:25.440 --> 00:03:30.079
+Okay, that's enough. Thank you for capturing.
+
+00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:37.719
+Are you not a fan? Okay. You saw this in the recording.
+
+00:03:37.720 --> 00:03:43.839
+Why on earth is autofill mode not enabled? I don't know.
+
+00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:48.479
+I thought it is the default, but apparently it isn't.
+
+00:03:48.480 --> 00:03:52.039
+I could also use visual line mode.
+
+00:03:52.040 --> 00:03:55.719
+It's built in as well, right? Visual line mode.
+
+00:03:55.720 --> 00:03:57.999
+It's so weird to be in this vanilla setup
+
+00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:00.439
+and not have all my key bindings
+
+00:04:00.440 --> 00:04:04.959
+and my normal stuff ready, so.
+
+00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:08.479
+I am not a fan of using asterisk headings in org mode.
+
+00:04:08.480 --> 00:04:12.359
+It's interesting to see how people have different styles of writing org content.
+
+00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:22.359
+Am I not? What exactly? What did I do?
+
+00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:25.959
+And nodes, just open one of these.
+
+00:04:25.960 --> 00:04:33.519
+Okay. I could see how you could, in examples like this,
+
+00:04:33.520 --> 00:04:36.639
+use org-mode to read-only.
+
+00:04:36.640 --> 00:04:44.599
+Why? How you could use org-mode to use headings for this,
+
+00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:48.159
+because it's an outliner first and foremost,
+
+00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:50.439
+so outlining is very natural.
+
+00:04:50.440 --> 00:04:53.279
+But when I do in my personal setup,
+
+00:04:53.280 --> 00:04:58.079
+I also have this what's called start indentation thingy.
+
+00:04:58.080 --> 00:05:01.079
+enabled, so that means that everything
+
+00:05:01.080 --> 00:05:04.159
+would be indented one level from the start.
+
+00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:05.599
+So I would probably fiddle around
+
+00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:07.799
+with that to not get like crazy.
+
+00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:12.039
+But also, I don't see, I don't see,
+
+00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:13.839
+like really see when I look at this,
+
+00:05:13.840 --> 00:05:17.879
+I didn't see a potential to create subheadings,
+
+00:05:17.880 --> 00:05:19.479
+I mean, or even headings.
+
+00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:21.559
+The only heading here is the title,
+
+00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:24.279
+like in my perception of this node,
+
+00:05:24.280 --> 00:05:27.159
+and it's one, It's two lists.
+
+00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:28.639
+You could group these in headings.
+
+00:05:28.640 --> 00:05:40.319
+I didn't. That's right. Where's another one?
+
+00:05:40.320 --> 00:05:42.679
+I opened the autosave file because I'm stupid.
+
+00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:46.719
+OK. So this one could also be probably subdivided.
+
+00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:48.559
+But I'm also not sure.
+
+00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:52.359
+I'm also not sure if I would gain anything structurally
+
+00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:55.799
+if I do it like this because then I'm in a structural level
+
+00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:58.279
+and the stuff that just flows naturally
+
+00:05:58.280 --> 00:06:01.039
+as a sequence of text paragraphs,
+
+00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:07.119
+this here, it's not disconnected.
+
+00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:10.519
+It wasn't meant to be under organism
+
+00:06:10.520 --> 00:06:16.839
+and I need to create a new same level thing
+
+00:06:16.840 --> 00:06:23.959
+to say, hey, these are, I don't know, details or whatever.
+
+00:06:23.960 --> 00:06:26.119
+So that's maybe the real reason.
+
+00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.879
+I'm fine with writing snippets that are self-contained
+
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+and essentially one or two or three or five or whatever,
+
+00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:32.119
+how many paragraphs,
+
+00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:36.119
+but it's not like, it's always an outline form.
+
+00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:38.679
+So I don't resort to this.
+
+00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:40.999
+My onSettle custom is usually written in Markdown.
+
+00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:43.999
+So I use subheadings for actual headings
+
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+to subdivide like I would subdivide an essay
+
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+or an article, blog post.
+
+00:06:49.760 --> 00:06:52.839
+But that's the mode of writing that I'm in here.
+
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+It's like blog post writing.
+
+00:06:54.320 --> 00:06:56.239
+I wouldn't start with four headings for this.
+
+00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:58.839
+So I'm not doing that. That's a thing.
+
+00:06:58.840 --> 00:07:04.919
+Okay, I guess I'm going to read the questions,
+
+00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:07.519
+but I'm going to stop copying them in because I lose time.
+
+00:07:07.520 --> 00:07:09.439
+I want to reply to you, folks.
+
+00:07:09.440 --> 00:07:11.479
+Didn't see a need for a rack constructor.
+
+00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:13.719
+Thank you for capturing this. Next question.
+
+NOTE Can you use org files and all its features inside Denote?
+
+00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:17.799
+Can you use org files and all its features inside Denote?
+
+00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:22.439
+Yes. Like this is, this is an org file
+
+00:07:22.440 --> 00:07:25.359
+and Denote uses org headings instead of,
+
+00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:28.799
+with Markdown, you get YAML front meta.
+
+00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:32.759
+And with org, you get these attributes,
+
+00:07:32.760 --> 00:07:36.359
+value attribute thingies
+
+00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:40.079
+that are then the metadata for the node.
+
+00:07:40.080 --> 00:07:45.279
+So yeah, the answer is yes. You get everything and on top,
+
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+a small layer of a link, link management.
+
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+That's all there is.
+
+NOTE Where or how do you like to capture fleeting notes?
+
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+Next question is, where or how do you like to capture fleeting notes?
+
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+Oh, fleeting notes. If you say fleeting notes,
+
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+you also need to say non-fleeting notes
+
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+and figure out what these are.
+
+00:08:02.400 --> 00:08:05.079
+And when you say non-fleeting notes,
+
+00:08:05.080 --> 00:08:07.239
+and fleeting notes exist, because it's a distinction,
+
+00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:10.199
+and there's something on both sides of this distinction.
+
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+If you say there's a distinction, there are two sides,
+
+00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:14.559
+maybe you want to subdivide the non-fleeting notes further,
+
+00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:16.199
+because, well, it's a non-fleeting note
+
+00:08:16.200 --> 00:08:21.159
+isn't very descriptive. So what else do you say there?
+
+00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:24.799
+And people have said a couple of things
+
+00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:28.479
+to define non-fleeting nodes, for example, permanent nodes.
+
+00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:33.199
+I guess that's a Sonke Ahrens,
+
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+permanent nodes is the most popular.
+
+00:08:35.040 --> 00:08:36.159
+Let's stay with that, stick with that.
+
+00:08:36.160 --> 00:08:38.279
+So if you have permanent nodes and fleeting nodes,
+
+00:08:38.280 --> 00:08:41.599
+now we have two types of nodes. The thing is, in books,
+
+00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:46.319
+the only, when we would talk about note-taking
+
+00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:47.679
+and you would ask me, hey Christian,
+
+00:08:47.680 --> 00:08:49.559
+how do you take fleeting notes?
+
+00:08:49.560 --> 00:08:53.679
+I imagine the discussion would be in German
+
+00:08:53.680 --> 00:08:55.799
+because that's how people usually talk to me.
+
+00:08:55.800 --> 00:08:56.679
+I would pull out a book,
+
+00:08:56.680 --> 00:08:59.799
+this is Object-Oriented Software Engineering,
+
+00:08:59.800 --> 00:09:03.679
+interesting book by Iva Jacobson or Iva, Iva,
+
+00:09:03.680 --> 00:09:06.159
+I'm not sure because, you know,
+
+00:09:06.160 --> 00:09:08.719
+it's an English or American person.
+
+00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:14.419
+And inside I have these fleeting notes like these
+
+00:09:14.420 --> 00:09:18.879
+are actual paper notes square what are these three by something inch
+
+00:09:18.880 --> 00:09:20.999
+American standard size I guess
+
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+and A6 minus the tariff part
+
+00:09:24.040 --> 00:09:29.439
+from from another notepad these are notes i took engagement notes
+
+00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.439
+if you will like engagement notes
+
+00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:34.999
+because the margins of the book don't suffice to take
+
+00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:38.799
+and this is related to i need more space so this is more space
+
+00:09:38.800 --> 00:09:41.119
+these are fleeting
+
+00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:44.999
+and as you see I have them in my pile of books
+
+00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:46.839
+right next to me in the shelf
+
+00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:52.279
+and folded them in this piece of paper,
+
+00:09:52.280 --> 00:09:54.879
+labeled it with the author because I lost them.
+
+00:09:54.880 --> 00:09:57.839
+couple of times they just fell out
+
+00:09:57.840 --> 00:09:58.759
+when I reached for the book
+
+00:09:58.760 --> 00:10:01.479
+and this is an envelope I shove it into the book
+
+00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:04.919
+and then forget about processing the book again
+
+00:10:04.920 --> 00:10:08.599
+for five or ten years. So what do I do with fleeting notes?
+
+00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:11.999
+I do fleeting notes on paper or if I'm using an e-reader
+
+00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:14.879
+maybe with an e-reader software annotation tool
+
+00:10:14.880 --> 00:10:21.639
+but fleeting in the most like simple non contrived sense,
+
+00:10:21.640 --> 00:10:23.839
+fleeting notes are meant as engagement notes
+
+00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:26.039
+and then you do something with them
+
+00:10:26.040 --> 00:10:27.519
+or like I just showed you,
+
+00:10:27.520 --> 00:10:29.879
+you don't because life's short, right?
+
+00:10:29.880 --> 00:10:31.919
+Time runs out, then you need to forget,
+
+00:10:31.920 --> 00:10:33.639
+then you need to remember
+
+00:10:33.640 --> 00:10:36.119
+how to restructure everything in your head
+
+00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:37.519
+to make sense of the notes again
+
+00:10:37.520 --> 00:10:38.359
+because they were fleeting,
+
+00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:40.999
+they were just little scribbles and it's
+
+00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:44.559
+It's basically ballast or waste.
+
+00:10:44.560 --> 00:10:46.679
+I'm just carrying this with me for years
+
+00:10:46.680 --> 00:10:50.879
+and maybe never get around to using these.
+
+00:10:50.880 --> 00:10:53.399
+But also, I put stuff on there, maybe I do.
+
+00:10:53.400 --> 00:10:55.399
+It doesn't hurt to keep them in there.
+
+00:10:55.400 --> 00:10:58.519
+It's just an odd collector's habit I can't get rid of.
+
+00:10:58.520 --> 00:11:03.399
+fleeting notes, I just capture them wherever
+
+00:11:03.400 --> 00:11:05.919
+and then either I process them or try to throw them away
+
+00:11:05.920 --> 00:11:07.079
+or forget about them
+
+00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:10.239
+because they're in some inbox file on a smartphone
+
+00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:13.159
+and then, you know, they might as well not exist,
+
+00:11:13.160 --> 00:11:15.439
+they're just there to engage me during the reading
+
+00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:17.079
+and if I don't process them in time,
+
+00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:21.999
+meh like, chance is up, it sucks
+
+00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:26.319
+Next question, like fleeting notes, permanent notes.
+
+00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:27.799
+I'm not going to talk about these
+
+00:11:27.800 --> 00:11:29.039
+unless someone asks a question.
+
+00:11:29.040 --> 00:11:32.119
+Zettelkasten feels like a very cagey approach
+
+00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:34.079
+to note-taking and knowledge management.
+
+00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:36.519
+Doesn't it restrict one to think in certain ways
+
+00:11:36.520 --> 00:11:38.919
+rather than what feels natural to someone?
+
+00:11:38.920 --> 00:11:45.919
+Well, yes, but so does wearing underwear, right?
+
+00:11:45.920 --> 00:11:50.119
+A bit of personal revelation.
+
+00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:54.079
+When I'm working from home, I'm wearing pants.
+
+00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:57.039
+You don't see them, but I don't need to.
+
+00:11:57.040 --> 00:12:00.079
+But I'm also kind of self-restricting myself in a way
+
+00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:01.239
+because there's a window,
+
+00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.479
+it's dark outside, and I'm well lit.
+
+00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:05.479
+And if I just stand up and have no pants on,
+
+00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:12.919
+I don't care that much what the neighbors like 10, 20 meters across think.
+
+00:12:12.920 --> 00:12:15.759
+your mileage may vary then, right?
+
+00:12:15.760 --> 00:12:18.319
+So there are restrictions that make sense
+
+00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:24.439
+to get to some point in your day-to-day life.
+
+00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:25.999
+And in the case of Zettelkasten,
+
+00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:31.639
+I try to tell people the shortest story possible
+
+00:12:31.640 --> 00:12:36.159
+to convey a story there, but also not to cage them in
+
+00:12:36.160 --> 00:12:38.679
+with 20 definitions of different notes.
+
+00:12:38.680 --> 00:12:42.279
+Because all that matters is try to move your thinking
+
+00:12:42.280 --> 00:12:44.039
+into an environment where you can write,
+
+00:12:44.040 --> 00:12:45.719
+where you feel comfortable writing,
+
+00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:47.239
+and where you can keep this stuff.
+
+00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:50.239
+Because I do feel comfortable with a pencil and paper.
+
+00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:54.199
+But what I just showed you, this might as well never have happened.
+
+00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:56.719
+Something has changed in my brain.
+
+00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:01.159
+most likely, when I engaged with a book like this.
+
+00:13:01.160 --> 00:13:04.199
+As far as publications and writing is concerned,
+
+00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:06.079
+this might as well not exist in my life,
+
+00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:10.279
+because I didn't do something with it.
+
+00:13:10.280 --> 00:13:15.239
+I mean, I was reading the book probably on a commute back then, on the train.
+
+00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:18.679
+I didn't take notes on the computer right away.
+
+00:13:18.680 --> 00:13:20.159
+So if you feel caged in,
+
+00:13:20.160 --> 00:13:24.319
+that may be a sign that you went too far on the,
+
+00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:26.479
+I need to do this, I need to do that stage,
+
+00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:28.359
+and lose some of the playfulness.
+
+00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:29.959
+There needs to be playfulness
+
+00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:32.599
+inside of the whole procedure, otherwise it...
+
+00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:36.999
+If you don't enjoy doing it, you won't be doing it.
+
+00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:39.319
+And if you don't do it, then you don't get a benefit.
+
+00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:41.039
+And it's just another chore in your life.
+
+00:13:41.040 --> 00:13:42.479
+Then rather not do it.
+
+00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:46.479
+So try to avoid the feeling of caginess
+
+00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:49.639
+and do whatever you want with it
+
+00:13:49.640 --> 00:13:52.319
+as long as you try to give your best.
+
+00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:55.799
+That's the cage that you will benefit from
+
+00:13:55.800 --> 00:13:58.959
+like really trying maybe not trying hard
+
+00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:02.639
+but trying in earnest to produce
+
+00:14:02.640 --> 00:14:05.079
+something that you can read in a year in a week whatever
+
+00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:10.439
+and then make sense of it like that's that's that's the minimum bar and the rest
+
+00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:13.799
+If you find yourself writing for hours on end,
+
+00:14:13.800 --> 00:14:15.279
+during the nights, during the weekends,
+
+00:14:15.280 --> 00:14:17.759
+whatever, and can't stop,
+
+00:14:17.760 --> 00:14:21.279
+then you can tackle more of the prescriptions, let's say.
+
+00:14:21.280 --> 00:14:22.319
+But everything I showed to you
+
+00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:24.439
+was there are three essential things,
+
+00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:26.199
+and the rest is just add-ons.
+
+00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:28.519
+Add-ons to inspire you to think in certain ways,
+
+00:14:28.520 --> 00:14:31.279
+but you don't have to do them. You can scratch all of this.
+
+00:14:31.280 --> 00:14:33.679
+You just need to write to think,
+
+00:14:33.680 --> 00:14:35.119
+and then you need to connect
+
+00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:37.799
+to make the thinking happen in an organic way.
+
+00:14:37.800 --> 00:14:40.559
+Otherwise, you get a storage that's very hard to navigate
+
+00:14:40.560 --> 00:14:45.999
+and doesn't grow well. Thanks. Yeah, you're welcome.
+
+00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:51.159
+I'm not writing another show. Yeah. Oh, combine the forums.
+
+00:14:51.160 --> 00:14:54.439
+Like it's a Zettelkasten anonymous group there.
+
+00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:56.239
+Like everyone's struggling.
+
+00:14:56.240 --> 00:14:58.479
+Everyone's struggling and it's okay to like,
+
+00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.319
+I'm feeling like stuck at this and that.
+
+00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:03.919
+And then other people will be able to relate.
+
+00:15:03.920 --> 00:15:10.279
+I can promise. How does it denote, question mark maybe,
+
+00:15:10.280 --> 00:15:11.639
+compared to org-roam?
+
+00:15:11.640 --> 00:15:18.559
+Roam research was setting a new trend of connectiveness
+
+00:15:18.560 --> 00:15:21.119
+because you could create recursive structures with links
+
+00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:22.199
+and everything is linkable.
+
+00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:25.439
+And it's like you put every sentence in its own org heading
+
+00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:27.679
+and then link to all the headings possibly
+
+00:15:27.680 --> 00:15:31.039
+and then transpile them so you can expand in place
+
+00:15:31.040 --> 00:15:32.239
+where you would link to.
+
+00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:34.959
+I think this was the approach at least.
+
+00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:38.479
+So this was a very interesting transclusion, not transpile.
+
+00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:41.919
+Transclude the contents, like move them in right then and there
+
+00:15:41.920 --> 00:15:45.839
+and not navigate to another page. It was interesting.
+
+00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:47.439
+It never made sense for me
+
+00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:50.239
+when people told their stories of how they used it.
+
+00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:53.439
+I guess you can use this tool for a lot of purposes,
+
+00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:59.199
+but the prevailing story of the Rome style note-taking tools
+
+00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:01.879
+was like, just dump everything in it.
+
+00:16:01.880 --> 00:16:04.439
+And garbage in, garbage out still holds.
+
+00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:07.559
+I do keep my personal journal away
+
+00:16:07.560 --> 00:16:10.279
+from my Zettelkasten nowadays
+
+00:16:10.280 --> 00:16:12.799
+because I want to not restrict myself
+
+00:16:12.800 --> 00:16:14.399
+when I feel the urge to journal,
+
+00:16:14.400 --> 00:16:18.919
+when I want to capture something that, for example, my 15-month-old baby daughter does.
+
+00:16:18.920 --> 00:16:21.239
+Like, first time she pulled a chair
+
+00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:22.679
+out of another room to the next room
+
+00:16:22.680 --> 00:16:25.479
+just to create a ladder to then climb onto another thing.
+
+00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:27.439
+It just was, okay, this is now the time
+
+00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:30.839
+to take note of this. in her life, like you were this
+
+00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.159
+and that many months old when you did this.
+
+00:16:33.160 --> 00:16:35.359
+So we have some reference parts. And I could put this kind
+
+00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:37.399
+of factual information, et cetera, custom,
+
+00:16:37.400 --> 00:16:42.199
+but also, like, what if I have a toothache or whatever,
+
+00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:47.479
+and just want to gather data for whatever reason?
+
+00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:52.119
+I don't know. Like this kind of personal stuff.
+
+00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:55.639
+That's too much of the non-useful stuff
+
+00:16:55.640 --> 00:16:58.199
+in a tool that I want to use to think.
+
+00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:00.479
+I do see the appeal there.
+
+00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:04.039
+But anyway, the org-roam, like that's a roam part.
+
+00:17:04.040 --> 00:17:05.879
+You can watch a lot of videos
+
+00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:07.159
+on that to get a feel for this.
+
+00:17:07.160 --> 00:17:10.559
+Org-roam adopted this to make the connection easier
+
+00:17:10.560 --> 00:17:13.479
+and replicate features. As I said, porting tools
+
+00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:16.399
+that exist into Emacs, very nice pastime.
+
+00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:18.079
+A lot of people do this for a lot of things,
+
+00:17:18.080 --> 00:17:20.359
+but it's not a thinking environment.
+
+00:17:20.360 --> 00:17:22.319
+It's just another tool to take notes in
+
+00:17:22.320 --> 00:17:25.279
+that behave weirdly with links or interestingly with links.
+
+00:17:25.280 --> 00:17:29.159
+And Denote does do even less.
+
+00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:31.199
+It only offers you a couple of shortcuts
+
+00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:33.799
+to help you find files quickly.
+
+00:17:33.800 --> 00:17:37.679
+It does, like you see in the bottom here in the mode line,
+
+00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:40.519
+it does just show square brackets D
+
+00:17:40.520 --> 00:17:44.359
+instead of the whole ID, which would be rather long.
+
+00:17:44.360 --> 00:17:48.399
+So you have a buffer list that is bearable and works.
+
+00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:51.439
+You can read this and find the title quickly.
+
+00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:56.199
+Things like that, Denote does things like that.
+
+00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:58.219
+Oh, I closed the wrong.
+
+00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:00.639
+Denote does things like that very well,
+
+00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:02.559
+but it gets out of your way otherwise.
+
+00:18:02.560 --> 00:18:04.079
+Just a couple of conventions
+
+00:18:04.080 --> 00:18:06.239
+to get stuff into your file system.
+
+00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:08.839
+I'm not sure if Org-Roam now,
+
+00:18:08.840 --> 00:18:11.199
+what's the current state there?
+
+00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:13.399
+Do they do ID generation out of the box?
+
+00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:18.319
+Is there a standard popular convention or whatever?
+
+00:18:18.320 --> 00:18:19.879
+not sure, didn't follow,
+
+00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:21.759
+but I'm very happy that org-roam still exists
+
+00:18:21.760 --> 00:18:25.039
+because I think porting tools into emacs is very cool,
+
+00:18:25.040 --> 00:18:27.559
+I guess next question,
+
+00:18:27.560 --> 00:18:31.839
+I noticed that the wikipedia link you wrote
+
+00:18:31.840 --> 00:18:40.279
+was typed wrongly, oh no garbage in, garbage out,
+
+00:18:40.280 --> 00:18:45.079
+I think garbage in, garbage out, garbage well spotted
+
+00:18:45.080 --> 00:18:47.199
+how do you do that oh I typed it
+
+00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:50.679
+I typed it from yeah right i didn't
+
+00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:53.359
+i didn't paste this right yeah yeah
+
+00:18:53.360 --> 00:18:55.879
+this janitorial tasks that's the umbrella term
+
+00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:56.839
+how do you deal with this
+
+00:18:56.840 --> 00:18:59.560
+like if you put stuff like this into into your notes
+
+00:18:59.560 --> 00:19:05.759
+you hopefully get a 404 code from wikipedia
+
+00:19:05.760 --> 00:19:07.559
+because the page doesn't exist
+
+00:19:07.560 --> 00:19:11.999
+let's not check um you get a 404 and then you could write a tool
+
+00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:13.799
+that checks all the links periodically
+
+00:19:13.800 --> 00:19:17.199
+and tells you about broken links like a broken link checker
+
+00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.679
+that then looks up maybe automatically
+
+00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:21.919
+the last good version on archive.org
+
+00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:23.319
+and then the Wayback Machine
+
+00:19:23.320 --> 00:19:26.879
+and then corrects the link with the archived version
+
+00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:30.479
+because the live one is gone like this happens all the time on the internet
+
+00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:31.919
+and even if you don't mistype
+
+00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:35.879
+you could you know things go out of out of order so
+
+00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:42.599
+What do you do with that? You need to automate this.
+
+00:19:42.600 --> 00:19:45.119
+I'm not clicking every link manually.
+
+00:19:45.120 --> 00:19:49.279
+I have like, what's it now, 11,000 notes or something.
+
+00:19:49.280 --> 00:19:51.999
+This is not a thing that humans are good at.
+
+00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:52.919
+I'm not good at this.
+
+00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:55.359
+I will never finish anything else if I do this manually.
+
+00:19:55.360 --> 00:19:57.079
+So write a tool, write a script,
+
+00:19:57.080 --> 00:19:58.719
+get a script from the interwebs.
+
+00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:01.919
+There are tools like this plenty that can do it.
+
+00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:06.319
+And then you just need to do the wiring.
+
+00:20:06.320 --> 00:20:07.599
+and that should help.
+
+00:20:07.600 --> 00:20:09.759
+You could automate this in Emacs, of course, right?
+
+00:20:09.760 --> 00:20:12.479
+For every file in my node directory,
+
+00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:14.359
+look if there's a link inside
+
+00:20:14.360 --> 00:20:16.119
+and then check the URL or whatever.
+
+00:20:16.120 --> 00:20:18.319
+Also works for inter-node connections.
+
+00:20:18.320 --> 00:20:21.239
+This could also break if you rename files or remove files
+
+00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:23.959
+and don't use a denote function,
+
+00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:26.879
+which I believe takes care of backlinks and forward links
+
+00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:28.639
+and keeps them organized.
+
+00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:31.399
+If you do this manually on another device,
+
+00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:38.119
+out of denote, out of Emacs, in Vim, I don't know, then yeah, mistakes happen
+
+00:20:38.120 --> 00:20:39.959
+and you need to deal with mistakes
+
+00:20:39.960 --> 00:20:44.359
+and heal and create scar tissue there in some way
+
+00:20:44.360 --> 00:20:48.279
+so write janitorial tools to do that it's also,
+
+00:20:48.280 --> 00:20:50.679
+i'm mentioning the term janitorial tools
+
+00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:51.679
+a couple of times now
+
+00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:55.439
+because that's the term that we in the forums at least
+
+00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:58.199
+usually talk about things like find orphaned notes,
+
+00:20:58.200 --> 00:21:02.119
+notes that no one links to find broken links,
+
+00:21:02.120 --> 00:21:07.479
+clean up references reformat nodes, stuff like this.
+
+00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:10.039
+Find large nodes and then suggest them
+
+00:21:10.040 --> 00:21:11.799
+to the user to break them up.
+
+00:21:11.800 --> 00:21:14.180
+Like these are tasks that you can do mechanically,
+
+00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:21.719
+but also it's better if you use a tool to get started,
+
+00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:27.519
+otherwise you waste a lot of time.
+
+00:21:27.520 --> 00:21:35.199
+Next question, when I complete, next long question.
+
+00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:39.239
+I'm going to copy this over because maybe
+
+00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:42.399
+When I completely reworked my configs from two years ago,
+
+00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:44.839
+I also tried some of these packages for making nodes,
+
+00:21:44.840 --> 00:21:47.119
+but none of them actually fit my purpose,
+
+00:21:47.120 --> 00:21:51.919
+because I do not like the idea of splitting up my ideas.
+
+00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:53.279
+I'm writing prose.
+
+00:21:53.280 --> 00:21:55.639
+I collect material, reading lists, and so on
+
+00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:57.519
+in just one big file. Everything fits in.
+
+00:21:57.520 --> 00:22:00.879
+In this notebook file, I do archiving from time to time.
+
+00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:02.399
+I search these files in Finder
+
+00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:04.439
+to find old notes I would like to go back to.
+
+00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:06.119
+So if I write a paper,
+
+00:22:06.120 --> 00:22:09.199
+it's basically an extract from my old notes
+
+00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:13.719
+that only have one structure.
+
+00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:17.959
+when I took them time structures my thought and my notes
+
+00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:20.359
+but they would get lost if I split them up in a network
+
+00:22:20.360 --> 00:22:22.799
+like structure like a wiki etc custom my two cents
+
+00:22:22.800 --> 00:22:32.239
+by the way I work on legal sociological topics
+
+00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:37.439
+i'm a lawyer by training you know Luhmann was a german german style
+
+00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:40.999
+weird sociologist
+
+00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:43.999
+and sociology studies are like the first four semesters at university,
+
+00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:48.639
+where a lot of, I don't know any of the terms in English,
+
+00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:50.999
+a lot of these things were theories
+
+00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:52.999
+in the loosest and broadest sense.
+
+00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:55.439
+Some were just models of how things might behave,
+
+00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:57.999
+but nobody knew because they were not empirically backed.
+
+00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:00.119
+Some were empirically backed,
+
+00:23:00.120 --> 00:23:01.959
+and then also there was some sense making.
+
+00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:03.599
+And then also in sociology,
+
+00:23:03.600 --> 00:23:08.999
+you have some structure analysis of,
+
+00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:11.239
+like demographics and things like that.
+
+00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:15.559
+So very, very hard fact and statistics heavy things.
+
+00:23:15.560 --> 00:23:20.639
+So broad topic. And there's a lot of interconnections.
+
+00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:22.599
+I can see the approach here.
+
+00:23:22.600 --> 00:23:25.359
+I'm not going to defend Zettelkasten
+
+00:23:25.360 --> 00:23:30.519
+so that you in the end become a Zettelkasten aficionado
+
+00:23:30.520 --> 00:23:33.639
+or whatever I mean, if it works, fine, more power to you like
+
+00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:37.919
+reminds me of Twyla Tharp's like the shoebox approach
+
+00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:39.159
+or whatever it was called
+
+00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:41.959
+where she just dumped everything inside
+
+00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:44.759
+for her next project like an idea box,
+
+00:23:44.760 --> 00:23:47.279
+like real physical things like oh, I want to, I don't know,
+
+00:23:47.280 --> 00:23:50.079
+like this weird 8-bit do controller inside
+
+00:23:50.080 --> 00:23:54.639
+and then eventually she would spread out everything she collected,
+
+00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:59.599
+newspaper clippings and I don't know, maybe toenails or some weird stuff,
+
+00:23:59.600 --> 00:24:01.879
+I don't know what she actually put there
+
+00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:03.359
+and then make sense of this
+
+00:24:03.360 --> 00:24:08.319
+and think of something of putting these sorted pieces into context
+
+00:24:08.320 --> 00:24:12.759
+and if you just dump stuff into a notebook file
+
+00:24:12.760 --> 00:24:20.199
+and then rework the stuff, yeah, fine
+
+00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:22.639
+One answer is Zettelkasten is great for mathematics.
+
+00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:25.239
+Or maybe you can have... Oh, next question.
+
+00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:31.439
+Sorry, I jumped. So my answer is, this was not a question,
+
+00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.799
+and I'm happy for you. So that's still an answer.
+
+00:24:34.800 --> 00:24:38.639
+Next question. How Zettelkasten is useful
+
+00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:42.519
+for highly mathematical STEM academic fields
+
+00:24:42.520 --> 00:24:44.839
+like computer science or engineering fields,
+
+00:24:44.840 --> 00:24:48.879
+like when studying a STEM field?
+
+00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:52.999
+I need to unpack the acronym again maybe for the audience.
+
+00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:58.199
+M is mathematics. Engineering is E.
+
+00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:02.519
+Science and tech, tech, techno,
+
+00:25:02.520 --> 00:25:05.599
+I don't know, maybe technical. I could look this up, right?
+
+00:25:05.600 --> 00:25:09.839
+STEM, what was STEM again? I'm doing a bad job.
+
+00:25:09.840 --> 00:25:12.079
+Science, technology, engineering, mathematics.
+
+00:25:12.080 --> 00:25:16.479
+Okay, so probably technology is the computer stuff.
+
+00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:17.159
+Yeah, STEM.
+
+00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:19.399
+Dear audience, that's science, technology,
+
+00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.999
+engineering, mathematics, academic fields.
+
+00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:24.799
+What should we make notes of?
+
+00:25:24.800 --> 00:25:27.199
+The important bits are interconnected in a hierarchy,
+
+00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:28.199
+usually chapters of a book.
+
+00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:31.639
+Yes, someone did the job of making the order
+
+00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:33.559
+out of the chaotic findings
+
+00:25:33.560 --> 00:25:35.919
+that people did over hundreds of years for you.
+
+00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:39.479
+That's an order. But there are also many textbooks.
+
+00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:42.759
+So opinions may vary. The presentation may vary.
+
+00:25:42.760 --> 00:25:48.279
+Some textbooks may click with you,
+
+00:25:48.280 --> 00:25:59.359
+while others stay opaque, and you can't get into the meat.
+
+00:25:59.360 --> 00:26:04.599
+Sorry, I'm just typing the answer right now.
+
+00:26:04.600 --> 00:26:13.319
+Copying information to another box is not, yeah.
+
+00:26:13.320 --> 00:26:17.719
+Yeah, let's see what the first answer is.
+
+00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:21.559
+Someone posted that Zettelkasten is great for mathematics,
+
+00:26:21.560 --> 00:26:22.919
+incredible for computer science.
+
+00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:25.439
+With OrgBabel you can have living source code, yes,
+
+00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:26.719
+that you can execute from the node,
+
+00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:28.479
+also true for a formula,
+
+00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:35.239
+and LaTeX in interspersing of images and SVGs.
+
+00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:37.119
+You can even use Agda if you want to.
+
+00:26:37.120 --> 00:26:39.279
+Ah, I think I know who typed the answer.
+
+00:26:39.280 --> 00:26:42.999
+Hello, Oliver. If you want to have living proofs in your nodes,
+
+00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:47.719
+even inline LaTeX is in here. That's, yeah, yeah, yeah.
+
+00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:58.959
+quote the sentence as is and add, yeah, add something,
+
+00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:01.319
+maybe your own summary.
+
+00:27:01.320 --> 00:27:02.959
+I would suggest add your own summary
+
+00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:11.299
+because we're looking at the etherpad, right?
+
+00:27:11.300 --> 00:27:14.639
+Maybe I just copy this over so you can all the either
+
+00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:30.879
+pets indentation is missing with what Org is doing.
+
+00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:36.999
+And the answer was probably submitted by Oliver
+
+00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.479
+just in case someone wants to see
+
+00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:47.679
+who that could have been with the Acta reference
+
+00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:49.799
+because nobody uses Acta,
+
+00:27:49.800 --> 00:27:55.999
+nobody in the world maybe so Acta is just a yeah
+
+00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:01.319
+let's say it's good for proofing the code that you type
+
+00:28:01.320 --> 00:28:04.399
+as you type it in the compilation set very weird
+
+00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.199
+if you've never heard of this so check that out
+
+00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:13.839
+so question was how Zettelkasten is useful for these kinds of things
+
+00:28:13.840 --> 00:28:16.119
+yeah it sounds like in these kinds of fields
+
+00:28:16.120 --> 00:28:18.359
+that you only deal with facts
+
+00:28:18.360 --> 00:28:24.719
+that's also kind of sort of true for psychology where you have a lot of
+
+00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:29.639
+and also law where you at least in at least in German
+
+00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.759
+and our style of law where you have a lot of where you have thick books of law
+
+00:28:33.760 --> 00:28:38.599
+and very very little records,
+
+00:28:38.600 --> 00:28:41.479
+that's not the right phrasing,
+
+00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:48.239
+where you don't rely on the ruling as much as you do in, for example, the USA,
+
+00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:53.919
+where you need to be aware of every court ruling to then put stuff into context
+
+00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:58.999
+and all of this is like the current how you do law.
+
+00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:01.039
+I don't know.
+
+00:29:01.040 --> 00:29:04.039
+I'm not a lawyer and also not good at this in English.
+
+00:29:04.040 --> 00:29:04.839
+So, sorry.
+
+00:29:04.840 --> 00:29:08.159
+If I don't find the cool words and technical terms,
+
+00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.079
+you probably all know.
+
+00:29:11.080 --> 00:29:12.639
+What do you do with these kinds of things?
+
+00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:14.719
+You need to collect a lot of stuff.
+
+00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:17.559
+Like the previous questionnaire mentioned,
+
+00:29:17.560 --> 00:29:19.719
+hey, I'm just copying stuff over
+
+00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:22.119
+and then I have a good time and can write about this
+
+00:29:22.120 --> 00:29:24.119
+and create prose in the end.
+
+00:29:24.120 --> 00:29:26.519
+Like with mathematics, you can't.
+
+00:29:26.520 --> 00:29:36.719
+You can't do a lot when you're still working on the foundations.
+
+00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:38.599
+Like, what do you want to do there?
+
+00:29:38.600 --> 00:29:41.959
+You don't innovate there. You just need to learn the stuff.
+
+00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.799
+Typing things out and creating your own organization
+
+00:29:45.800 --> 00:29:49.519
+of how things are connected there,
+
+00:29:49.520 --> 00:29:52.079
+that's where the depth of processing increases,
+
+00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:53.839
+like the actual depth of processing
+
+00:29:53.840 --> 00:29:57.759
+so that it takes more effort
+
+00:29:57.760 --> 00:30:01.399
+and affects more parts of your brain, basically,
+
+00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:03.919
+which then helps with remembering stuff.
+
+00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:12.759
+I'm trying not to go into a 10 minute tangent here, but
+
+00:30:12.760 --> 00:30:18.439
+If you've ever tried to memorize stuff with flashcards
+
+00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:20.879
+and you put a, I don't know, coffee stain
+
+00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:24.559
+or a weird scribble or spilled something on one of these cards,
+
+00:30:24.560 --> 00:30:26.639
+actual physical cards there,
+
+00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:29.119
+this card now has another piece of information
+
+00:30:29.120 --> 00:30:32.519
+that is actually important
+
+00:30:32.520 --> 00:30:36.119
+because it makes the card stand out
+
+00:30:36.120 --> 00:30:41.279
+more and more worthy of being remembered
+
+00:30:41.280 --> 00:30:42.639
+because now one of these cards
+
+00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:44.679
+has this coffee circle thingy
+
+00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:46.959
+and all the others don't so this one stands out
+
+00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:49.079
+and this may actually improve
+
+00:30:49.080 --> 00:30:51.519
+how you learn this particular fact
+
+00:30:51.520 --> 00:30:57.839
+that you want to remember or memorize
+
+00:30:57.840 --> 00:31:00.839
+Similar, like what kind of principle
+
+00:31:00.840 --> 00:31:04.439
+do people postulate is at play here?
+
+00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:06.399
+Again, last time I went into
+
+00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.079
+this kind of stuff was at university,
+
+00:31:08.080 --> 00:31:11.719
+so I'm not sure if there's something new
+
+00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.319
+in the field of flashcard learning.
+
+00:31:15.320 --> 00:31:18.919
+I'm not aware of anything, let's say.
+
+00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:23.279
+And the idea back then that we spread
+
+00:31:23.280 --> 00:31:25.360
+and that was taught to us was like this.
+
+00:31:27.540 --> 00:31:32.599
+That more information and more context and more stimuli
+
+00:31:32.600 --> 00:31:34.759
+and making things more interesting,
+
+00:31:34.760 --> 00:31:39.340
+that's what makes it memorable.
+
+00:31:39.341 --> 00:31:43.799
+if you go for a walk and then associate things with places.
+
+00:31:43.800 --> 00:31:47.359
+Going for a walk is a different activity
+
+00:31:47.360 --> 00:31:48.839
+than imagining going for a walk.
+
+00:31:48.840 --> 00:31:52.079
+It's also different from not doing anything
+
+00:31:52.080 --> 00:31:54.399
+and just sitting in your chair
+
+00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:56.519
+and relaxing because you're not engaged.
+
+00:31:56.520 --> 00:31:58.919
+You're losing, like you're using
+
+00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:01.959
+a bit of your brain matter to do the work
+
+00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:04.399
+while the rest of your body is stagnant.
+
+00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.759
+You don't smell anything different.
+
+00:32:07.760 --> 00:32:09.239
+You don't hear, see, feel on your skin,
+
+00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.399
+everything's constant,
+
+00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:15.239
+like you're in a, what are these called?
+
+00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:18.639
+These chambers where you're locked
+
+00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:21.479
+into very salty water, I think.
+
+00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:24.639
+Floating chambers, so sensual deprivation chambers.
+
+00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:29.519
+You're depriving yourself of a lot of sensual input
+
+00:32:29.520 --> 00:32:31.519
+if you just try to really focus
+
+00:32:31.520 --> 00:32:33.479
+into everything with your head.
+
+00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:34.999
+If you engage more of your body,
+
+00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:36.007
+if you engage more of your senses,
+
+00:32:36.008 --> 00:32:37.674
+then you have an easier time there.
+
+00:32:37.675 --> 00:32:40.590
+What does it have to do with this answer?
+
+00:32:40.560 --> 00:32:46.799
+My answer would be the value is in rephrasing,
+
+00:32:46.800 --> 00:32:51.799
+in making your own connections eventually.
+
+00:32:51.800 --> 00:32:56.439
+I don't know, the foundational laws of geometry,
+
+00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:58.119
+there's no room for innovation,
+
+00:32:58.120 --> 00:33:00.159
+but there's maybe a room for association.
+
+00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:03.759
+Like, hey, I remember this, like, if you can't figure out
+
+00:33:03.760 --> 00:33:09.759
+what the name of a certain axiom, lemma, whatever it is, and it has a name,
+
+00:33:09.760 --> 00:33:12.679
+adding your own story to the note doesn't hurt.
+
+00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:14.839
+If you say, hey, this is what my grandfather
+
+00:33:14.840 --> 00:33:18.719
+taught me with wire and sticks when we tried to measure
+
+00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:22.839
+whatever in the sand on a vacation one day.
+
+00:33:22.840 --> 00:33:26.199
+And these kinds of things make it more memorable.
+
+00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:31.039
+And that's at least something that you could need to then,
+
+00:33:31.040 --> 00:33:33.999
+which is the ultimate purpose of STEM at university,
+
+00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:39.559
+then you can pass the tests. Like that's it.
+
+00:33:39.560 --> 00:33:42.999
+You either, and eventually you embody the knowledge, right?
+
+00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:44.679
+If you do this stuff over and over again,
+
+00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:45.839
+then you don't need to look up
+
+00:33:45.840 --> 00:33:47.599
+how to do a certain kind of proof.
+
+00:33:47.600 --> 00:33:50.759
+And you just do the proof when you need to do the proof.
+
+00:33:50.760 --> 00:33:53.919
+But maybe you forget all the kinds of weird proofs
+
+00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:55.079
+that you encountered in your life
+
+00:33:55.080 --> 00:33:57.159
+because you only remember the 10 most weird ones,
+
+00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:58.519
+but you had 15 in your life.
+
+00:33:58.520 --> 00:34:00.399
+And what's about the, what do you do
+
+00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.800
+with the five missing ones? They just fade away.
+
+00:34:02.800 --> 00:34:05.279
+But if you capture them in some way or another,
+
+00:34:05.280 --> 00:34:08.559
+as superficial as it may be,
+
+00:34:08.560 --> 00:34:10.479
+and you still have access to this later
+
+00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:21.799
+when you need to check your personal inventory
+
+00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:30.519
+of mathematical proofs so my answer would be
+
+00:34:30.520 --> 00:34:33.119
+let's type in my answer
+
+00:34:33.120 --> 00:34:46.199
+on either pad would be I'm not able to type.
+
+00:34:46.200 --> 00:34:52.599
+Sorry. My answer would be this.
+
+00:34:52.600 --> 00:35:05.239
+Foundational knowledge is important for tests mostly
+
+00:35:05.240 --> 00:35:13.300
+and eventually becomes your inventory of skills.
+
+00:35:23.200 --> 00:35:25.879
+Synth programming, like I don't need to look up for loops,
+
+00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.519
+I just do for loops and that's it, right?
+
+00:35:29.520 --> 00:35:32.999
+But still, I do have notes about for loops, I think,
+
+00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:34.839
+in different languages, like Python,
+
+00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.679
+the, what is it called, list comprehension.
+
+00:35:37.680 --> 00:35:39.919
+I'm not using Python, but it's so quirky.
+
+00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.879
+It's quirky and I captured this on a note
+
+00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.879
+because I needed to get myself used to the pieces
+
+00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:48.159
+and I needed to look at the syntax anyway,
+
+00:35:48.160 --> 00:35:50.719
+and then this is that part and this goes there.
+
+00:35:50.720 --> 00:35:55.799
+And I did this work, like this separation stuff on a note
+
+00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:01.159
+to then do the work with more engagement,
+
+00:36:01.160 --> 00:36:04.599
+like engage more so I can remember more later.
+
+00:36:04.600 --> 00:36:06.079
+I don't remember all the details,
+
+00:36:06.080 --> 00:36:08.079
+but I do remember there were different parts,
+
+00:36:08.080 --> 00:36:09.519
+and then I can look up the note.
+
+00:36:09.520 --> 00:36:12.799
+And it helps me refresh my memory rather quickly,
+
+00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.399
+because it's written by me for me
+
+00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.199
+in a way that I'm writing these notes
+
+00:36:17.200 --> 00:36:18.599
+for 15 years or something.
+
+00:36:18.600 --> 00:36:27.119
+16, at least, 16 years or something.
+
+00:36:27.120 --> 00:36:30.439
+So it's much better than looking, especially now,
+
+00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:31.759
+it's much better than going to the web
+
+00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.399
+and doing a web search for the same topic,
+
+00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:37.199
+because I will probably not get the useful resource
+
+00:36:37.200 --> 00:36:40.199
+that I relied on some eight years ago anyway,
+
+00:36:40.200 --> 00:36:41.599
+but some garbage instead,
+
+00:36:41.600 --> 00:36:44.919
+maybe AI generated stuff, I don't know.
+
+00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:48.319
+So I have my personal copy of this
+
+00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.639
+and it's not just copying the thing into a box,
+
+00:36:50.640 --> 00:36:51.759
+like from one box into another,
+
+00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:53.879
+from the public internet box into my own buffer,
+
+00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:56.399
+that's a custom that's closer to me,
+
+00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:58.559
+like a fridge is closer to my kitchen
+
+00:36:58.560 --> 00:37:01.359
+and where I want to eat when I'm hungry
+
+00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:02.399
+than going to the supermarket
+
+00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:04.279
+or out into the wild and hunt animals,
+
+00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:06.199
+like this is all about proximity
+
+00:37:06.200 --> 00:37:10.759
+and also brought about ownership, like I own these notes
+
+00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:13.199
+and I still take responsibility
+
+00:37:13.200 --> 00:37:14.599
+for what I put on them to some degree
+
+00:37:14.600 --> 00:37:15.959
+like sometimes they're really bad
+
+00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:17.319
+and I want to distance myself,
+
+00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:23.919
+but still yeah, so that's it, I'm just I'm leaving,
+
+00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:29.639
+I'm not typing this out, I'm leaving copy box fridge,
+
+00:37:29.640 --> 00:37:32.119
+there was a term for this, wait a second,
+
+00:37:32.120 --> 00:37:38.839
+setup custom fridge can be fridge-like buffer of knowledge
+
+00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:48.079
+I'm just, let me just try to copy this note verbatim into the etherpad
+
+00:37:48.080 --> 00:37:51.879
+and then see whether you folks can do something with it.
+
+00:37:51.880 --> 00:38:00.959
+The formatting. See appendix A. I am doing this here.
+
+00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:10.319
+Appendix A. I'm not going to read this,
+
+00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:13.679
+but then you have a FridgeLab buffer of knowledge.
+
+00:38:13.680 --> 00:38:16.839
+Local link in the supply chain. That was the term.
+
+00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:18.199
+Didn't remember that one.
+
+00:38:18.200 --> 00:38:28.119
+It's at least a local link in supply chain.
+
+00:38:28.120 --> 00:38:36.079
+Also, engagement doing the work of not copying,
+
+00:38:36.080 --> 00:38:38.439
+but rephrasing, organizing,
+
+00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:46.399
+but sometimes also just typing the stuff in
+
+00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:51.759
+that's how people romanticize learning a basic
+
+00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:54.999
+like there were magazines with a lot of code listings
+
+00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:58.839
+and they just typed the code it was quite some effort
+
+00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:00.879
+you eventually got better at this
+
+00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:03.799
+but you did do mistakes and then you needed to correct
+
+00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.799
+and look through the source code carefully to spot the typo
+
+00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:11.839
+That's apparently virtue, at least people claim it's a virtue.
+
+00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:15.759
+I don't deny it's a virtue because I went through the same kind of crap
+
+00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:20.919
+and I believe it strengthened my character, for sure, but still.
+
+00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:26.639
+Maybe it's not that useful, but maybe it is. I don't know.
+
+00:39:26.640 --> 00:39:27.759
+There's studies I remember,
+
+00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.519
+but I don't remember any interesting results.
+
+00:39:30.520 --> 00:39:32.839
+It's not like it's a 10x improvement
+
+00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.959
+of recall if you type this, but it may be significant.
+
+00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.319
+Just check it out for yourself. I'm not sure.
+
+00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:40.959
+Next question, sorry.
+
+00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:45.639
+In your experience, would you say that you reuse most of your nodes?
+
+00:39:45.640 --> 00:39:47.959
+Watching your demo, I thought that more nodes you create,
+
+00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:51.279
+the less you might reuse them. Yes, that's true.
+
+00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:54.879
+I have 11,000 nodes or something,
+
+00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.239
+and I don't use 11,000 nodes every day.
+
+00:39:57.240 --> 00:39:59.879
+I can only use a fraction of them.
+
+00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:06.439
+But let's say you have the Feynman Darling nodes,
+
+00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.479
+then you would probably use these.
+
+00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.479
+Imagine you have the same 12 Darlings for a year.
+
+00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:15.559
+Then you use these 12 thingies for one year more often.
+
+00:40:15.560 --> 00:40:17.919
+than most of your other nodes,
+
+00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:19.999
+because these become your entry points
+
+00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:21.999
+into what's in my Zettelkasten today.
+
+00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:23.559
+These become your entry points
+
+00:40:23.560 --> 00:40:24.999
+of what do I want to work on today?
+
+00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:27.719
+These become your, where can I put
+
+00:40:27.720 --> 00:40:29.199
+the weird stuff that I just found?
+
+00:40:29.200 --> 00:40:31.119
+Does it stick to any of these surfaces?
+
+00:40:31.120 --> 00:40:33.719
+Entry point into the process.
+
+00:40:33.720 --> 00:40:41.839
+But let's say, five years later,
+
+00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:45.399
+maybe these 12 Feynman darlings were your darlings
+
+00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.719
+during university studies for STEM field,
+
+00:40:47.720 --> 00:40:49.479
+where you had a hard time figuring out
+
+00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.479
+how the technical system works for your benefit.
+
+00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:56.279
+And then five years later, you're in a job and you don't need all of them
+
+00:40:56.280 --> 00:41:00.799
+because your subject matters from university, they're gone.
+
+00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.119
+you're not at a day job and you have different darlings
+
+00:41:03.120 --> 00:41:04.319
+whatever your day job is
+
+00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:09.399
+maybe you're a mathematician at an insurance company
+
+00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:14.319
+so you will probably have insurance related domain darlings pouring in
+
+00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:18.119
+and some academic darlings falling off the bandwagon
+
+00:41:18.120 --> 00:41:21.119
+because no time for these maybe other hobbies come in
+
+00:41:21.120 --> 00:41:25.919
+like i didn't have anything related to child Rearing,
+
+00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.999
+bearing is when you produce them
+
+00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:30.199
+and put them into the wild, right?
+
+00:41:30.200 --> 00:41:34.639
+Rearing is when you let them grow up, I don't know
+
+00:41:34.640 --> 00:41:36.959
+Like when you have children and make them not die
+
+00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:42.039
+and get larger and do stuff, right?
+
+00:41:42.040 --> 00:41:44.079
+I did have a couple of things in advance, but
+
+00:41:44.080 --> 00:41:47.919
+That was not a daily concern. Now it is.
+
+00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:50.999
+Now I'm a father and that's a new concern in my life.
+
+00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.599
+Getting things done also tackled this, right?
+
+00:41:54.600 --> 00:41:56.239
+If you remember getting things done, everyone,
+
+00:41:56.240 --> 00:41:58.559
+you had areas of responsibility.
+
+00:41:58.560 --> 00:42:00.999
+It's a new area of responsibility and you could represent,
+
+00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:06.599
+sorry, you could represent these in your Zettelkasten,
+
+00:42:06.600 --> 00:42:10.239
+if you find that you can spell out your areas of responsibility
+
+00:42:10.240 --> 00:42:12.799
+well, then you can see, well, I've learned something new,
+
+00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:14.719
+can I become a better person
+
+00:42:14.720 --> 00:42:16.879
+in one of my core areas of responsibility?
+
+00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:18.679
+Yes or no? Why not?
+
+00:42:18.680 --> 00:42:21.279
+Then you will use these more than the other notes.
+
+00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:25.159
+Like the weird thing you found last month.
+
+00:42:25.160 --> 00:42:29.079
+Last month, you will probably not reference that weird thing every day.
+
+00:42:29.080 --> 00:42:32.359
+Natural process. But it's there.
+
+00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:34.799
+And eventually you get back to something,
+
+00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:38.999
+and then you serve access to this like that's the that
+
+00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:43.599
+and whatever this changes like going through these processes
+
+00:42:43.600 --> 00:42:51.399
+change you if I if I spend a month getting nerd sniped on
+
+00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:56.679
+I don't know chocolate manufacturing or something
+
+00:42:56.680 --> 00:43:00.759
+then I don't need this ever these things ever again most likely
+
+00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:02.999
+but going through the procedure of
+
+00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:06.199
+becoming the master chocolate manufacturer of my town,
+
+00:43:06.200 --> 00:43:10.159
+at least in theory, will do something with me
+
+00:43:10.160 --> 00:43:12.719
+when I encounter the next topic.
+
+00:43:12.720 --> 00:43:14.959
+I will think of chocolate manufacturing.
+
+00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:17.359
+I wouldn't have thought of chocolate manufacturing before.
+
+00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:18.919
+In fact, I didn't think about chocolate
+
+00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:21.719
+manufacturing yesterday. I just made this up on the spot.
+
+00:43:21.720 --> 00:43:23.679
+What does this say about me today?
+
+00:43:23.680 --> 00:43:26.159
+Maybe because we were out of chocolate,
+
+00:43:26.160 --> 00:43:30.279
+maybe because I don't know,
+
+00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:33.159
+maybe there's nothing that looks like chocolate here
+
+00:43:33.160 --> 00:43:36.359
+I don't know so it just came up and now it's there
+
+00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:39.159
+and things have changed for the better,
+
+00:43:39.160 --> 00:43:41.359
+for the worse, I don't know but they've changed
+
+00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:43.719
+and that's the real takeaway there
+
+00:43:43.720 --> 00:43:44.959
+where do you put the effort?
+
+00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:48.759
+where do you want to put the effort? and will it pay off?
+
+00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:54.479
+maybe if not, then maybe spend the time on something else
+
+00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:57.119
+like don't try to exactly customize something you hate
+
+00:43:57.120 --> 00:43:59.519
+just to I don't know,
+
+00:43:59.520 --> 00:44:04.479
+do your due diligence if you don't want to
+
+00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:06.719
+because then you'll hate the process
+
+00:44:06.720 --> 00:44:15.279
+that's worse than not using nodes a lot next questions,
+
+00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.719
+how are nodes structured and accessed
+
+00:44:17.720 --> 00:44:20.639
+when the nodes grow from 10k to 100k nodes?
+
+00:44:20.640 --> 00:44:22.119
+yes, that's a field of exploration,
+
+00:44:22.120 --> 00:44:25.919
+I mean that the lower realm there I don't know anybody
+
+00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:32.359
+who's using a hyperlinked 100k node archive.
+
+00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:37.239
+I do know people who have a lot of text files
+
+00:44:37.240 --> 00:44:38.919
+like the Evernote style
+
+00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:42.799
+they capture everything and put the verbatim copy into their stuff
+
+00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:47.519
+and then they have a lot more items of course
+
+00:44:47.520 --> 00:44:51.359
+but these don't really count,
+
+00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.599
+these are like web clippings of websites themselves
+
+00:44:54.600 --> 00:44:58.119
+I've read how many hundreds of websites today
+
+00:44:58.120 --> 00:45:02.919
+I could have captured everything automatically,
+
+00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:07.119
+but they wouldn't, like the files there, the clippings,
+
+00:45:07.120 --> 00:45:10.559
+they wouldn't have contributed
+
+00:45:10.560 --> 00:45:12.439
+anything meaningfully to my knowledge base,
+
+00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:14.479
+because I'm not thinking about the stuff,
+
+00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:16.399
+I'm thinking about the stuff that I'm spending time on.
+
+00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:18.839
+What about that?
+
+00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:20.639
+Yeah, how are nodes structured and accessed
+
+00:45:20.640 --> 00:45:22.919
+when the nodes go from one to 100k?
+
+00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:31.399
+I will imagine that it becomes a matter that's speculation.
+
+00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:34.759
+We'll see. My speculation is this.
+
+00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:40.639
+it's going to be self-similar, like Mandelbrot images,
+
+00:45:40.640 --> 00:45:43.199
+where you have recursive patterns.
+
+00:45:43.200 --> 00:45:46.519
+First, you have a couple of nodes.
+
+00:45:46.520 --> 00:45:49.759
+You can leave through them digitally or physically easily.
+
+00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.559
+And then eventually, you need to rely on structures
+
+00:45:52.560 --> 00:45:54.079
+or some kinds of entry points,
+
+00:45:54.080 --> 00:45:55.679
+which we usually call structures,
+
+00:45:55.680 --> 00:46:03.359
+thanks to Sascha. Perfect. Thank you.
+
+00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:04.799
+And the clue there is,
+
+00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:10.159
+Eventually, you have hundreds or maybe thousands,
+
+00:46:10.160 --> 00:46:12.359
+not hundreds or thousands, of structure nodes.
+
+00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:13.959
+And then you have the same problem
+
+00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:16.039
+that you had on the lower base layer.
+
+00:46:16.040 --> 00:46:19.199
+And now you will probably look for another tool.
+
+00:46:19.200 --> 00:46:22.759
+But there is nothing else that's not also a structure node
+
+00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.799
+but is structuring other structures mostly
+
+00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:28.119
+instead of structuring the low-level nodes.
+
+00:46:28.120 --> 00:46:31.719
+But this distinction, I want to point out, doesn't pay off.
+
+00:46:31.720 --> 00:46:34.879
+it seems like it doesn't pay off
+
+00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.319
+to say hey i have these foundational permanent nodes
+
+00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:38.759
+and then i have these meta nodes
+
+00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:40.519
+these these maps and structures
+
+00:46:40.520 --> 00:46:42.759
+and then i have these super mega structures
+
+00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:44.159
+which are not permanent
+
+00:46:44.160 --> 00:46:45.519
+which are not structures which are not
+
+00:46:45.520 --> 00:46:47.919
+I don't know this doesn't seem to pay off
+
+00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:51.079
+because eventually there is another level and another level
+
+00:46:51.080 --> 00:46:53.519
+and also sometimes you want to talk
+
+00:46:53.520 --> 00:46:56.159
+about a structure as a data point
+
+00:46:56.160 --> 00:46:58.079
+like hey I did this writing project
+
+00:46:58.080 --> 00:47:00.159
+once it was really cool link to writing project
+
+00:47:00.160 --> 00:47:04.959
+and the writing project is a table of contents huge hierarchy or whatever.
+
+00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:06.959
+Is it not a link to a thing?
+
+00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:10.759
+Back then you get into all these weird academic questions
+
+00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:12.799
+about the nature of links
+
+00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:17.719
+and there's no gold at the end of that rainbow, let's say.
+
+00:47:17.720 --> 00:47:21.159
+At least I've never seen anyone come back with any gold.
+
+00:47:21.160 --> 00:47:24.199
+I've seen people come back with very long faces
+
+00:47:24.200 --> 00:47:26.559
+and sadness in their eyes
+
+00:47:26.560 --> 00:47:31.239
+because all the effort, all the metadata was for naught.
+
+00:47:31.240 --> 00:47:32.919
+So, how do you do this?
+
+00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:36.119
+You figure out, when you get to 10k,
+
+00:47:36.120 --> 00:47:37.759
+you will probably have figured,
+
+00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:40.839
+and if you do 10k, not like web clippings,
+
+00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:42.759
+but really like you did put in effort to get there
+
+00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:46.879
+and type everything yourself in one way or another
+
+00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:47.999
+you would have figured out something
+
+00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:52.599
+that kind of sort of works for you around that milestone.
+
+00:47:52.600 --> 00:47:53.439
+And then I believe in you,
+
+00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:58.839
+you will be equipped to get to 20k, 30k,
+
+00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:00.799
+because you feel comfortable in your notes.
+
+00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:02.399
+And then you can expand further.
+
+00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:03.719
+And it will probably look different
+
+00:48:03.720 --> 00:48:06.639
+for someone in STEM fields than for an artist.
+
+00:48:06.640 --> 00:48:09.079
+Maybe, maybe not. I don't know.
+
+00:48:09.080 --> 00:48:14.639
+Maybe a fine arts artist would woodcrafter,
+
+00:48:14.640 --> 00:48:17.359
+maybe these kinds of folks will have different structures
+
+00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:22.519
+and rely more on visuals, schemas,
+
+00:48:22.520 --> 00:48:28.559
+whole part relationships, whereas mathematicians may not.
+
+00:48:28.560 --> 00:48:31.359
+but I don't know, I don't know, we need to compare
+
+00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:33.639
+and this will be the interesting like
+
+00:48:33.640 --> 00:48:36.159
+if the internet survives and we all survive
+
+00:48:36.160 --> 00:48:40.239
+and also Zettelkasten as an idea sticks on
+
+00:48:40.240 --> 00:48:43.039
+I hope we can have this discussion
+
+00:48:43.040 --> 00:48:44.839
+every year in five years, in ten years
+
+00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:50.039
+and then see how people transparently evolve
+
+00:48:50.040 --> 00:48:55.159
+their gardens, their processes, their note-taking systems
+
+00:48:55.160 --> 00:49:00.319
+next question not a question but i would be very interested
+
+00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:01.559
+in your thoughts on this video
+
+00:49:01.560 --> 00:49:07.039
+by westenberg okay it's it's this is not spam
+
+00:49:07.040 --> 00:49:13.959
+i i don't uh there's joe westenberg's uh youtube channel
+
+00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:15.319
+why i deleted my second brain
+
+00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:22.679
+a journey back to real thinking uh
+
+00:49:22.680 --> 00:49:30.319
+I think I didn't watch the video but read an article.
+
+00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.360
+Not sure where. Let me check my Zettelkasten.
+
+00:49:34.383 --> 00:49:36.215
+It's not on screen sharing. That was stupid.
+
+00:49:36.216 --> 00:49:48.239
+I'm probably not going to watch it right now with everyone here,
+
+00:49:48.240 --> 00:49:53.479
+so my thoughts on deleting and stuff like that.
+
+00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:58.679
+I do remember there was a very cleverly written, well-written post
+
+00:49:58.680 --> 00:50:02.719
+and the claim was, from my perspective,
+
+00:50:02.720 --> 00:50:04.919
+and that's not doing the work of
+
+00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:13.199
+It's not doing the work of the author justice.
+
+00:50:13.200 --> 00:50:19.839
+But the shortest summary is that there seems to be false contradiction,
+
+00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:24.759
+where the contradiction stems from how the opposite side,
+
+00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.079
+the note taking, the deliberate note taking,
+
+00:50:27.080 --> 00:50:28.159
+taking a lot of notes,
+
+00:50:28.160 --> 00:50:31.479
+all the notes every time, stuff, like how this is presented.
+
+00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.639
+I would say this is more on the collecting
+
+00:50:34.640 --> 00:50:36.519
+and not on the connecting side of things.
+
+00:50:36.520 --> 00:50:42.119
+So like I mentioned for the, some 30 minutes ago
+
+00:50:42.120 --> 00:50:45.039
+when I talked about Roam, Roam Research.
+
+00:50:45.040 --> 00:50:47.439
+If you start your day with a daily note,
+
+00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:50.679
+journal style, and then branch out from there,
+
+00:50:50.680 --> 00:50:53.759
+you do at least have time as a structure
+
+00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:57.039
+that helps you to organize what you put in.
+
+00:50:57.040 --> 00:50:59.319
+But also, it can get very messy
+
+00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:01.239
+and very weirdly interconnected,
+
+00:51:01.240 --> 00:51:04.239
+like this meme of the with a guy
+
+00:51:04.240 --> 00:51:10.919
+standing in front of a board
+
+00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:14.439
+with all these lines connecting things
+
+00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:17.239
+and just, you know, with the madness in his eyes
+
+00:51:17.240 --> 00:51:23.439
+you can do a lot of stuff in there.
+
+00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:27.839
+But at a certain point, it gets hard
+
+00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.799
+to also get out of your own head, let's say.
+
+00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.079
+If you do it in this kind of style,
+
+00:51:33.080 --> 00:51:35.679
+it can get hard to get off your own head.
+
+00:51:35.680 --> 00:51:39.919
+And one litmus test that you may find enjoyable
+
+00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:41.119
+if you struggle with this
+
+00:51:41.120 --> 00:51:46.199
+is to publish more. Because having access
+
+00:51:46.200 --> 00:51:49.199
+to a very deeply interconnected web of stuff
+
+00:51:49.200 --> 00:51:52.919
+thoughts, ideas, notes, wisdoms, whatever
+
+00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.079
+very deeply connected,
+
+00:51:55.080 --> 00:52:02.359
+like not a pile, yarn, wool, what's the ball?
+
+00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:06.519
+Ball of yarn? No, that's boring.
+
+00:52:06.520 --> 00:52:09.239
+Let's say like you have a lot of yarn
+
+00:52:09.240 --> 00:52:11.519
+and then you just create chaos and entropy
+
+00:52:11.520 --> 00:52:13.239
+and can't untangle it. It's a very tangled mess.
+
+00:52:13.240 --> 00:52:15.479
+So it's a very dense, dense thingy
+
+00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:18.639
+that's now its own kind of structure. Like if you have this
+
+00:52:18.640 --> 00:52:21.519
+And in your head, when you think about your notes,
+
+00:52:21.520 --> 00:52:24.639
+you may have some interesting pathways there.
+
+00:52:24.640 --> 00:52:28.999
+But you need to serialize and put into a linear order
+
+00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:30.079
+in order to communicate.
+
+00:52:30.080 --> 00:52:32.799
+Otherwise, people cannot follow your thought.
+
+00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:36.119
+it's a pity because we still rely
+
+00:52:36.120 --> 00:52:39.159
+on the book style of writing
+
+00:52:39.160 --> 00:52:42.639
+and also hypertext which is making navigation easy
+
+00:52:42.640 --> 00:52:47.439
+but not telling a story easier in our modern times
+
+00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:49.999
+but we still rely a lot on books
+
+00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:54.199
+which take take a lot of intertwined stuff,
+
+00:52:54.200 --> 00:52:58.759
+put it into one order so you can read from start to finish.
+
+00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.319
+But then, in order for you to make sense of this,
+
+00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:02.439
+you need to chop it up,
+
+00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:04.439
+associate with things you already know,
+
+00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:07.159
+and then attach things and create a new kind of structure
+
+00:53:07.160 --> 00:53:08.399
+through the narrative,
+
+00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:11.079
+because it's only one kind of presentation
+
+00:53:11.080 --> 00:53:12.079
+that's given to you.
+
+00:53:12.080 --> 00:53:14.919
+And there may also be different kinds of presentations,
+
+00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:16.599
+like I also mentioned for the STEM fields,
+
+00:53:16.600 --> 00:53:18.359
+where you have different textbooks
+
+00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:21.199
+from different eras of mathematics foundations,
+
+00:53:21.200 --> 00:53:24.140
+and then you see, hey, this one clicks, this one doesn't.
+
+00:53:24.120 --> 00:53:27.879
+Why? It's the same stuff, but they present it differently.
+
+00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:30.639
+And the presentation matters. The presentation matters.
+
+00:53:30.640 --> 00:53:33.119
+And if you only deal with the chaos,
+
+00:53:33.120 --> 00:53:34.399
+the weird entanglement,
+
+00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:36.479
+if you capture everything and anything,
+
+00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:41.239
+how many, I don't know, how many hairs you lost that day or whatever.
+
+00:53:41.240 --> 00:53:43.559
+If you capture everything in there,
+
+00:53:43.560 --> 00:53:45.119
+you don't create the kind of value
+
+00:53:45.120 --> 00:53:47.159
+that is linearizable into thought,
+
+00:53:47.160 --> 00:53:49.599
+which also makes reading your own stuff later,
+
+00:53:49.600 --> 00:53:55.839
+maybe unbearable, maybe at least hard and making sense.
+
+00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:57.719
+Now we come back to one of the earlier questions,
+
+00:53:57.720 --> 00:54:00.399
+like, why do I not use outlines?
+
+00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:03.039
+Because OrgNode allows me to do outlines.
+
+00:54:03.040 --> 00:54:06.319
+Well, I try to write my notes as blog posts,
+
+00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:09.599
+very short blog posts, microblogging, if you will,
+
+00:54:09.600 --> 00:54:11.439
+paragraphs, a couple of paragraphs.
+
+00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:14.279
+Maybe it's also more nested because it's a huge topic.
+
+00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:16.199
+It's a complex topic. That also happens.
+
+00:54:16.200 --> 00:54:18.039
+But then it's more like an article,
+
+00:54:18.040 --> 00:54:21.279
+a long blog post, or an essay,
+
+00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:26.279
+but never just vomiting thought out onto the page,
+
+00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:28.559
+because then you will get back to the note
+
+00:54:28.560 --> 00:54:31.199
+and you will find, hey, there's a lot of vomit.
+
+00:54:31.200 --> 00:54:36.759
+But you never follow this kind of phrase with nice.
+
+00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:40.880
+I enjoyed reading that. It's always me.
+
+00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:43.239
+Oppressing because of its mass,
+
+00:54:43.240 --> 00:54:46.279
+it's also getting in the way of having new ideas
+
+00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:48.719
+because whatever is there and you need to tangle it
+
+00:54:48.720 --> 00:54:52.759
+and then you lost your new genuine idea,
+
+00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:56.319
+this can also happen.
+
+00:54:56.320 --> 00:55:00.759
+So I'm not sure what the Westenberg video contains,
+
+00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:03.799
+but the sentiment there of deleting everything,
+
+00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:06.999
+it makes sense if you find yourself in a situation
+
+00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:09.359
+where you don't have a productive system.
+
+00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:13.199
+and the notes from 2009 in my own Zettelkasten
+
+00:55:13.200 --> 00:55:15.159
+aren't of the highest quality standards
+
+00:55:15.160 --> 00:55:17.959
+I rewrite most of them when I encounter them,
+
+00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:23.399
+but I can still use a couple as is and sometimes they're just garbage,
+
+00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:28.119
+but as Luhmann said garbage like trickles to the ground
+
+00:55:28.120 --> 00:55:34.599
+and forms a nice sediment layer there in the septic tank of your thought machine,
+
+00:55:34.600 --> 00:55:36.439
+your thought thinking environment.
+
+00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:40.319
+But clear water separates and then rises to the top
+
+00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:42.439
+and that's what you work with.
+
+00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:47.759
+it's never going to be 100% useful. But if it's 90% garbage
+
+00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:51.479
+and if the water is, if the septic tank is never clearing,
+
+00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:54.399
+then you probably need to start
+
+00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:55.559
+over and rethink your approach.
+
+00:55:55.560 --> 00:55:57.319
+Maybe there was just too much garbage,
+
+00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:01.559
+too much toxic waste in there, whatever that means, right?
+
+00:56:01.560 --> 00:56:07.839
+So I do understand this, but also I would say
+
+00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:11.479
+maybe maybe they tried to do too much with a different mindset
+
+00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:24.839
+and it just didn't click and then they,
+
+00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.199
+you know next question is there a danger?
+
+00:56:27.200 --> 00:56:41.959
+also, wait a second, answer do not probably a lot of collection,
+
+00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:52.359
+not a lot of stinking in the Zettelkasten to some purpose.
+
+00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:58.700
+Usually. Conflation was the word I was fishing for.
+
+00:56:58.701 --> 00:57:02.840
+Usually posts videos like this.
+
+00:57:02.841 --> 00:57:10.090
+Conflate note taking as a dumping ground
+
+00:57:10.091 --> 00:57:22.174
+for stuff with something that is valuable in the long term.
+
+00:57:22.175 --> 00:57:27.599
+Also if this was our dear friend Westenberg
+
+00:57:27.600 --> 00:57:30.439
+I think the note count also was higher,
+
+00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:33.519
+but I might confuse them with someone else.
+
+00:57:33.520 --> 00:57:36.959
+The note count was way higher than mine. Note count.
+
+00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:41.239
+But then also, you know, there's the sign
+
+00:57:41.240 --> 00:57:44.159
+of going for quantity in...
+
+00:57:44.160 --> 00:57:47.719
+just capture anything, like capturing,
+
+00:57:47.720 --> 00:57:48.799
+that's not the bottleneck.
+
+00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:52.479
+The bottleneck is finding, making connections happen,
+
+00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:55.919
+having thoughts and working on problems
+
+00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:57.279
+you really want to solve in the long term.
+
+00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:59.159
+So next question.
+
+00:57:59.160 --> 00:58:02.359
+Is there a danger that with the settled custom process,
+
+00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:05.679
+that the process gets a bit in the way of the content?
+
+00:58:05.680 --> 00:58:12.279
+yes, especially if you do it like old school style
+
+00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:14.639
+if you find that your handwriting sucks
+
+00:58:14.640 --> 00:58:16.079
+and you want to type things
+
+00:58:16.080 --> 00:58:19.199
+on a typewriter like that kind of process
+
+00:58:19.200 --> 00:58:20.479
+definitely gets in the way
+
+00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:21.759
+that's going to be your bottleneck
+
+00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:24.679
+you can't find black paper
+
+00:58:24.680 --> 00:58:30.759
+and put it into your typewriter and then like that's not the speed of thought
+
+00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:35.959
+that's the speed of, I don't know, my long deceased grandmother
+
+00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:54.479
+but yeah it's not like a strive for speed of thought tools
+
+00:58:54.480 --> 00:59:00.439
+not needing a typewriter
+
+00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:10.519
+and then next step reduce ritual reduce rituals and ceremony
+
+00:59:10.520 --> 00:59:15.239
+What I mean by that is if you find yourself doing the same moves
+
+00:59:15.240 --> 00:59:16.799
+or similar moves over and over again,
+
+00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:19.439
+but they don't contribute
+
+00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:23.479
+to having more cool ideas per week, then maybe ditch these,
+
+00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:26.639
+apart from the day timestamp,
+
+00:59:26.640 --> 00:59:28.479
+having a title, hashtags, and content,
+
+00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:32.399
+and also being very, very careful about quoting my sources.
+
+00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:35.639
+I don't do much with my et cetera.
+
+00:59:35.640 --> 00:59:37.679
+I cannot give up quoting my sources
+
+00:59:37.680 --> 00:59:39.399
+because then I'm plagiarizing, stealing,
+
+00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:41.879
+forgetting where I get ideas from and confuse.
+
+00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:44.599
+And I get out because I'm aware of the problem there.
+
+00:59:44.600 --> 00:59:47.599
+I'm also not trusting my own notes anymore.
+
+00:59:47.600 --> 00:59:51.159
+would not be trusting my own notes anymore
+
+00:59:51.160 --> 00:59:53.919
+i need to properly cite so then i can see hey
+
+00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:56.559
+this block has no quotations that's mine
+
+00:59:56.560 --> 01:00:00.559
+and i can trust this it's not like hey this is maybe mine
+
+01:00:00.560 --> 01:00:04.039
+maybe this is a verbatim quote from a book like this
+
+01:00:04.040 --> 01:00:05.799
+is not helping that's a ceremony
+
+01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:09.039
+that's paying off in the long term also
+
+01:00:09.040 --> 01:00:11.319
+so that when you write something
+
+01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:15.159
+you have all the sources at hand
+
+01:00:15.160 --> 01:00:17.279
+that's a useful ceremony title
+
+01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:20.799
+is just a way of summarizing the content
+
+01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:25.119
+do it like an excerpt, right?
+
+01:00:25.120 --> 01:00:26.919
+you have the whole content, that's your etc.
+
+01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:29.879
+do a short summary, that may be your introduction.
+
+01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:33.239
+So have a way to quickly get a glimpse of the relevance
+
+01:00:33.240 --> 01:00:35.919
+before having to read the whole settle
+
+01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.719
+when you encounter it years from now.
+
+01:00:38.720 --> 01:00:41.319
+And then have a one, that's one sentence summary,
+
+01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:44.159
+and then have an even more condensed form that's a title.
+
+01:00:44.160 --> 01:00:45.679
+The title is basically your API,
+
+01:00:45.680 --> 01:00:49.359
+the interface for you and your nodes.
+
+01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:54.879
+And it needs to uphold some kind of contract.
+
+01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:57.319
+And if it just is, like, this is my second note,
+
+01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:00.239
+that's not useful. This is just a technical limitation
+
+01:01:00.240 --> 01:01:02.839
+because you can't have the same file name twice.
+
+01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:05.639
+That's not going to be useful.
+
+01:01:05.640 --> 01:01:09.519
+But if you give yourself the permission to take time
+
+01:01:09.520 --> 01:01:12.919
+of titling your notes in one way and also changing titles,
+
+01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:16.199
+because you will know from writing introductions
+
+01:01:16.200 --> 01:01:18.679
+the further you get along,
+
+01:01:18.680 --> 01:01:22.279
+the more and more you need to rewrite your introductions
+
+01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:24.639
+because your understanding changes same for titles
+
+01:01:24.640 --> 01:01:28.319
+titles don't always stay consistent or constant
+
+01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:31.079
+that's why I don't link by title, because I would then need
+
+01:01:31.080 --> 01:01:34.279
+to go through my node archive and also need to go to
+
+01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:39.999
+my node archive and need to correct all the links
+
+01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:44.039
+that's a janitorial task I like to not do, if I can
+
+01:01:44.040 --> 01:01:49.759
+So answer here, less ceremony, fewer ceremonies, plural.
+
+01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:54.359
+Try to only do the minimum possible, minimum viable thing.
+
+01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:57.599
+And using Emacs and D-Node, you get a lot of defaults.
+
+01:01:57.600 --> 01:01:58.719
+And then you need to worry
+
+01:01:58.720 --> 01:02:01.199
+not about IDs and tags that much,
+
+01:02:01.200 --> 01:02:04.159
+or where to put them and how to put them.
+
+01:02:04.160 --> 01:02:06.439
+You can omit keywords. You can leave keywords out.
+
+01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:08.159
+They don't scale anyway.
+
+01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:12.079
+But they may be interesting as a way to group,
+
+01:02:12.080 --> 01:02:19.959
+but also Sascha from zettelkasten.de, from our website,
+
+01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:23.279
+Sascha also found that, I believe, he,
+
+01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:28.119
+structures win in the long term.
+
+01:02:28.120 --> 01:02:30.719
+Manual created hubs and overviews
+
+01:02:30.720 --> 01:02:34.639
+win over machine generated lumps.
+
+01:02:34.640 --> 01:02:37.959
+Because you need to reorient yourself
+
+01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:42.239
+in the search results all the time.
+
+01:02:42.240 --> 01:02:45.679
+That's not as useful as having a pathway
+
+01:02:45.680 --> 01:02:49.559
+through your nodes that you can follow.
+
+01:02:49.560 --> 01:02:52.039
+It may not be a pathway through all of your nodes, of course,
+
+01:02:52.040 --> 01:02:56.159
+but it may be a pathway from entry point into some topic.
+
+01:02:56.160 --> 01:03:01.839
+That's why some things are essential and others aren't.
+
+01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:06.239
+And the essential stuff, try to do it quickly, get better at it,
+
+01:03:06.240 --> 01:03:08.799
+practice the movements, then they get out of the way,
+
+01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:10.919
+and then you can focus on having ideas
+
+01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:12.119
+and typing them at speed of thought,
+
+01:03:12.120 --> 01:03:15.239
+more or less, and then you're good.
+
+01:03:15.240 --> 01:03:20.639
+I hope. Wishing you all the best. Next and last question.
+
+01:03:20.640 --> 01:03:24.519
+How do you navigate looking at all posts with a certain text?
+
+01:03:24.520 --> 01:03:26.679
+This might be an emacs, already new to emacs.
+
+01:03:26.680 --> 01:03:28.679
+I just may have answered this.
+
+01:03:28.680 --> 01:03:40.159
+How do you navigate looking at all posts with a certain text?
+
+01:03:40.160 --> 01:03:42.959
+Let me go to my actual node archive.
+
+01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:55.919
+and then php no language learning ah
+
+01:03:55.920 --> 01:03:59.319
+this is not my setup I'm very clumsy
+
+01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:03.119
+I'm sorry, I don't know swift language learning
+
+01:04:03.120 --> 01:04:28.465
+ah that's that's a boring one php By this time, I could have also,
+
+01:04:28.466 --> 01:04:35.299
+ah, there's the model. This would be an entry point
+
+01:04:35.300 --> 01:04:39.159
+into my PHP atom molecule organism learning journey
+
+01:04:39.160 --> 01:04:43.159
+where I tried to practice, what's visual line mode, sorry,
+
+01:04:43.160 --> 01:04:48.919
+where I tried to practice this atom molecule thing on something new.
+
+01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:51.879
+I haven't used PHP in a long time
+
+01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:59.199
+and found that I wasn't, yeah, you can see it on the screen also
+
+01:04:59.200 --> 01:05:01.439
+like language primitives are the atoms,
+
+01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:08.759
+I think molecules are more like idioms or patterns that are PHP special in PHP
+
+01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:10.599
+and different in other languages in Python
+
+01:05:10.600 --> 01:05:13.759
+would be list comprehension that's in a molecule
+
+01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:16.319
+and but also you can make a point for hey,
+
+01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:18.519
+this comprehension is more like a syntactical thing,
+
+01:05:18.520 --> 01:05:23.439
+no no get out of here, like the for loop is the syntactical atom
+
+01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:25.039
+and the molecule is using the for loop
+
+01:05:25.040 --> 01:05:26.559
+with weird other stuff
+
+01:05:26.560 --> 01:05:28.199
+to then make the list comprehension happen.
+
+01:05:28.200 --> 01:05:33.679
+That's my argument there, okay? So what do we do with this?
+
+01:05:33.680 --> 01:05:38.519
+I use this as an entry point if I want to see,
+
+01:05:38.520 --> 01:05:41.639
+hey, what kind of stuff did I take notes on
+
+01:05:41.640 --> 01:05:43.439
+to get a better understanding
+
+01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:45.239
+on multiple levels of the language.
+
+01:05:45.240 --> 01:05:47.479
+And project structure conventions
+
+01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:49.319
+and usually another language
+
+01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:53.239
+that I use more here would be, but I can't remember now.
+
+01:05:53.240 --> 01:05:57.479
+Funny, right? I can't remember how I would need to look,
+
+01:05:57.480 --> 01:05:58.959
+but I think I'm too clumsy in Emacs
+
+01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:00.639
+to do it live on camera, sorry.
+
+01:06:00.640 --> 01:06:05.759
+But the organisms part here would also be like my own inventions,
+
+01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:06.559
+let's say in code,
+
+01:06:06.560 --> 01:06:11.119
+like my own discoveries where I found that in Swift, for example,
+
+01:06:11.120 --> 01:06:13.359
+you can express things on the type level
+
+01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:15.639
+in a very sexy way sometimes.
+
+01:06:15.640 --> 01:06:19.439
+And then I would put these there as well.
+
+01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:20.959
+So these are also,
+
+01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:26.559
+There are organisms to discover in the language reference,
+
+01:06:26.560 --> 01:06:30.599
+but there are also organisms to discover in the world,
+
+01:06:30.600 --> 01:06:32.559
+and then they are your own inventions,
+
+01:06:32.560 --> 01:06:36.519
+discoveries, more or less. And that's a sign of mastery.
+
+01:06:36.520 --> 01:06:38.719
+If you work more on these things,
+
+01:06:38.720 --> 01:06:40.959
+then you don't need to worry
+
+01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:42.399
+about the basics of the language anymore.
+
+01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:46.239
+So I can use this as an entry point
+
+01:06:46.240 --> 01:06:51.039
+to get into things that are very PHP-esque.
+
+01:06:51.040 --> 01:06:54.359
+When do I need this? When I want to talk about PHP,
+
+01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:55.359
+like I do now.
+
+01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:59.359
+Why do I show this when the question is about tags?
+
+01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:10.919
+Because if I search for... Which one do I take?
+
+01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:22.719
+Let's try grep. php. Yep, grep exited the anomaly.
+
+01:07:22.720 --> 01:07:28.039
+Dang, why? Option requires an argument.
+
+01:07:28.040 --> 01:07:36.159
+Yes, eshell is there.
+
+01:07:36.160 --> 01:07:43.919
+So let's just use rg, ripgrep and then ripgrep for php.
+
+01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:50.879
+And you see I get, I can do filenames only, right?
+
+01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:56.599
+Let's not worry. I get a lot of, let's just scroll up.
+
+01:07:56.600 --> 01:08:03.239
+I get a lot more hits here for the PHP tech,
+
+01:08:03.240 --> 01:08:06.759
+which is only about PHP specific things,
+
+01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:09.559
+not about anything that I do in PHP.
+
+01:08:09.560 --> 01:08:15.279
+Like, I don't know, I don't take Laravel or Filament,
+
+01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:17.879
+which are frameworks, libraries in PHP,
+
+01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:21.199
+the Zend library or whatever, I don't know many.
+
+01:08:21.200 --> 01:08:23.199
+Like I wouldn't take everything
+
+01:08:23.200 --> 01:08:26.999
+and anything that is related to the php ecosystem
+
+01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:28.399
+with the php hashtag.
+
+01:08:28.400 --> 01:08:30.679
+Why? Because then the tag becomes useless.
+
+01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:33.439
+I only tag things that are about the language.
+
+01:08:33.440 --> 01:08:39.159
+Like how do I pass variables to php includes that's php related.
+
+01:08:39.160 --> 01:08:44.879
+And you see these are... I'm still not at the top.
+
+01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:48.399
+now i'm at the top these are a lot more findings than you could
+
+01:08:48.400 --> 01:08:49.879
+these don't fit on the screen
+
+01:08:49.880 --> 01:08:51.919
+these are three pages i believe
+
+01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:55.039
+and the note about my language learning journey was
+
+01:08:55.040 --> 01:08:58.999
+wasn't even one full page here's white space
+
+01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:02.799
+there wasn't okay right but still there's much more stuff
+
+01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:07.479
+the hashtag I don't use for navigating.
+
+01:09:07.480 --> 01:09:10.839
+I only use this, let's say, the shotgun approach.
+
+01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:14.239
+I think Sascha on our Zettelkasten blog post,
+
+01:09:14.240 --> 01:09:16.359
+don't remember which post, mentioned this as well.
+
+01:09:16.360 --> 01:09:18.079
+Sometimes you need a sniper rifle.
+
+01:09:18.080 --> 01:09:21.319
+Sometimes you need a shotgun.
+
+01:09:21.320 --> 01:09:27.199
+And the hashtag-based search would be I don't know what I'm looking for.
+
+01:09:27.200 --> 01:09:32.959
+It was PHP related. I hope I use the hashtag correctly
+
+01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:36.879
+and then kill all these nodes from my archive.
+
+01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:38.959
+The metaphor doesn't work that way,
+
+01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:41.279
+but still you get a lot of results here
+
+01:09:41.280 --> 01:09:45.959
+and you could use this as a way to filter from 11,000 nodes
+
+01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:53.559
+down to 50 or so, maybe less.
+
+01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:58.999
+And if you got this far, then you can start to do it in a mechanical way again.
+
+01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:05.279
+But wait, if you have 100 or 1000 nodes in the results there,
+
+01:10:05.280 --> 01:10:08.279
+then you can't mechanically go through all the nodes again.
+
+01:10:08.280 --> 01:10:09.919
+You can maybe skim and look
+
+01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:11.159
+for something that catches your eye,
+
+01:10:11.160 --> 01:10:14.159
+if you're lucky, and if that's the thing
+
+01:10:14.160 --> 01:10:15.039
+that works for you.
+
+01:10:15.040 --> 01:10:21.319
+but usually no, like usually the text become useless
+
+01:10:21.320 --> 01:10:24.079
+then maybe tag groups become more useful
+
+01:10:24.080 --> 01:10:28.039
+like PHP and LSP which is on screen here
+
+01:10:28.040 --> 01:10:30.799
+like then maybe the combination of two tags
+
+01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:32.519
+that reduces the search terms enough
+
+01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:36.639
+like this is basically glorified full text search
+
+01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:41.359
+where you highlight certain terms of importance that's it,
+
+01:10:41.360 --> 01:10:44.999
+I wouldn't use I wouldn't put more effort in there
+
+01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:48.639
+It's also maybe useful to group things by topic.
+
+01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:52.399
+For example, study notes like, I don't know,
+
+01:10:52.400 --> 01:10:56.759
+this is my undergrad, third semester,
+
+01:10:56.760 --> 01:11:01.279
+what do you do in the third semester, I don't know,
+
+01:11:01.280 --> 01:11:06.399
+history of philosophy of science of birds,
+
+01:11:06.400 --> 01:11:10.959
+very long course name, and then week 10.
+
+01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:13.199
+And then you assemble everything
+
+01:11:13.200 --> 01:11:15.479
+with this very technical tagging.
+
+01:11:15.480 --> 01:11:18.239
+Then you can use these folders
+
+01:11:18.240 --> 01:11:20.999
+to loosely group stuff together
+
+01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:23.119
+that happened during that week.
+
+01:11:23.120 --> 01:11:26.519
+And if you have 10 required readings and then do five of them,
+
+01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:28.879
+but they're also not closely interrelated,
+
+01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:33.639
+you will have read five to 10 different sources that you could process.
+
+01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:36.319
+You could maybe then also create an overview node
+
+01:11:36.320 --> 01:11:38.359
+as a preparation for the seminar
+
+01:11:38.360 --> 01:11:44.799
+whatever happens at university.
+
+01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:51.199
+Then the hashtag becomes just a way to group things.
+
+01:11:51.200 --> 01:11:52.479
+But once you create the structure node,
+
+01:11:52.480 --> 01:11:55.039
+you don't need the hashtags to navigate anymore.
+
+01:11:55.040 --> 01:11:57.679
+You could then maybe use the hashtags not to navigate
+
+01:11:57.680 --> 01:12:02.919
+but to to clump, to create collections,
+
+01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:07.759
+pre-assembled to some degree collections of things that exist already,
+
+01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:09.559
+get them out there and then review them.
+
+01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:13.319
+Like Twyla Tharp again, dumping all the notes on a table,
+
+01:12:13.320 --> 01:12:15.519
+all the stuff on the table,
+
+01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:17.759
+not just notes, all the clippings and so on and so on,
+
+01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:18.959
+and then making sense of them.
+
+01:12:18.960 --> 01:12:21.639
+That's what you can use a hashtag search for in the longterm.
+
+01:12:21.640 --> 01:12:27.799
+And I'm not convinced about navigational use in the longterm.
+
+01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:31.439
+which doesn't mean that it won't work for you,
+
+01:12:31.440 --> 01:12:32.799
+but I can't recommend it.
+
+01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:34.899
+I can't recommend trying to do it that way.
+
+01:12:34.900 --> 01:12:37.882
+So my answer is going to be, how do you navigate
+
+01:12:37.883 --> 01:12:45.507
+looking at all posts with certain tags? I don't.
+
+01:12:45.508 --> 01:12:53.439
+Tags are just a way to loosely group notes and stuff in general
+
+01:12:53.440 --> 01:13:05.519
+so that you can find potentially, PP, why doesn't P work?
+
+01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:14.919
+Potentially relevant pieces of information more quickly.
+
+01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:34.959
+Navigational aids. Create navigational aids
+
+01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:38.049
+things that help you navigate like this is for a week
+
+01:13:38.050 --> 01:13:42.479
+what did I say 10 of semester three
+
+01:13:42.480 --> 01:13:44.632
+uh the history of the sociology
+
+01:13:44.633 --> 01:13:46.799
+of the philosophy of science of birds
+
+01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:51.559
+or something lump things together there then you have a
+
+01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:54.119
+then you have a scratch pad to think on you do this
+
+01:13:54.120 --> 01:13:59.279
+did do this when you went to university with paper anyway, right?
+
+01:13:59.280 --> 01:14:01.039
+You would get your college book or whatever
+
+01:14:01.040 --> 01:14:04.439
+and then you would take notes and these like that location
+
+01:14:04.440 --> 01:14:07.159
+of that piece of paper in your college book
+
+01:14:07.160 --> 01:14:09.959
+in your whatever notes folder
+
+01:14:09.960 --> 01:14:15.039
+that's the important piece of information
+
+01:14:15.040 --> 01:14:20.079
+and the scratchpad, the thinking environment for this course
+
+01:14:20.080 --> 01:14:22.679
+and if you have all the other things
+
+01:14:22.680 --> 01:14:24.679
+that you ever did at your disposal as well
+
+01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:26.839
+maybe pull them in maybe pull them in
+
+01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:28.759
+and then bring them to the discussion
+
+01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:31.479
+with your professor or your teaching assistant
+
+01:14:31.480 --> 01:14:35.199
+and asking about, well, I read these five books
+
+01:14:35.200 --> 01:14:37.159
+that you recommended for this week.
+
+01:14:37.160 --> 01:14:40.439
+Thank you for recommending five whole books
+
+01:14:40.440 --> 01:14:45.399
+for one week of reading. I really enjoyed that. Long pause.
+
+01:14:45.400 --> 01:14:50.599
+And then you say, I also thought about other topics
+
+01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:54.359
+and brought them into a, I don't know, dialectic or position.
+
+01:14:54.360 --> 01:14:58.959
+What do you think about foxes in that regard
+
+01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:01.599
+and their own history and subjectivity
+
+01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:08.639
+when it comes to the bird's point of view or something, right?
+
+01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:10.999
+You can only do this if you either know this by heart
+
+01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:12.999
+because you do this a lot,
+
+01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:15.279
+think a lot about this stuff or you do this,
+
+01:15:15.280 --> 01:15:18.799
+you stumble upon this and then look for oppositions,
+
+01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:19.959
+look for certain patterns in your notes
+
+01:15:19.960 --> 01:15:22.479
+and then try to pull them in and represent them again
+
+01:15:22.480 --> 01:15:26.239
+so they actually do exist and then you can work with this,
+
+01:15:26.240 --> 01:15:27.399
+you can get on people's nerves
+
+01:15:27.400 --> 01:15:30.959
+you can write weird papers, essays
+
+01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:33.719
+and then get through your university studies quickly
+
+01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:35.959
+maybe also become an interesting columnist,
+
+01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:39.319
+I don't know, I've never been a columnist Right.
+
+01:15:39.320 --> 01:15:44.079
+I think these are all the questions.
+
+01:15:44.080 --> 01:15:47.159
+I'm going to delete the leftover ones.
+
+01:15:47.160 --> 01:15:52.439
+I hope you enjoyed some of the answers.
+
+01:15:52.440 --> 01:15:58.159
+Thank you so much. Thank you. That's a lot.
+
+01:15:58.160 --> 01:16:02.759
+We'll go back and get everything transcribed as well
+
+01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:08.599
+and then you can turn that into other articles in the future
+
+01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:10.119
+because that's how this all works, right?
+
+01:16:10.120 --> 01:16:14.319
+It all turns into writing. It all does.
+
+01:16:14.320 --> 01:16:15.999
+All the rest is garbage.
+
+01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:20.799
+I don't know why we invented anything else.
+
+01:16:20.800 --> 01:16:23.919
+It's only useful to transfer language before writing,
+
+01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:26.279
+but now you can just read.
+
+01:16:26.280 --> 01:16:29.719
+We have two people in the big blue button room
+
+01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:33.799
+who are still around, but I think they've got their, like,
+
+01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:35.719
+they don't have microphones set up.
+
+01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:40.679
+So I don't know if you want to just, like, CryptKNFL,
+
+01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:44.339
+if you want to just follow up through the etherpad,
+
+01:16:44.340 --> 01:16:47.639
+or email, I guess, in case you have further questions.
+
+01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:50.119
+But yeah, if you want to wrap up,
+
+01:16:50.120 --> 01:16:52.799
+I know it's getting a little bit late over there,
+
+01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:55.919
+you're in your time zone. Thank you so much.
+
+01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:59.679
+Yeah, all right. Thank you. You're welcome.
+
+01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:02.719
+Thanks for joining and listening.
+
+01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:07.640
+Okay, I'll wrap it up here then.