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+(Amin: ... for the list of questions in whatever
+
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+order you like.)
+
+00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:06.160
+Okay, so I see what package is used,
+
+00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:08.000
+probably symex-mode...
+
+00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:10.400
+Right. So the main package that was
+
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+being demoed,
+
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+that is not yet on MELPA. In fact, I
+
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+haven't even decided on a name for it.
+
+00:00:16.720 --> 00:00:19.359
+I've alternately called
+
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+it epistemic-mode, I've called it
+
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+england, I called it
+
+00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:28.560
+all kinds of things, but at the moment
+
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+you can find it on my Github. There's a link
+
+00:00:31.439 --> 00:00:32.960
+in the presentation itself, if you go to
+
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+https://github.com/countvajhula, you'll see
+
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+the package there. It's currently
+
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+named Indra, but
+
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+I'm not sure. (Organizer: Package is
+called rigpa.)
+
+00:00:42.879 --> 00:00:46.800
+Actually, yes, the second one is
+
+00:00:46.800 --> 00:00:49.920
+correct. That was the name that I selected
+
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+last night. That's because it...
+
+00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:55.760
+There's a concept in Tibetan Buddhism
+
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+that seems like it might have something
+
+00:00:57.520 --> 00:00:58.480
+to do with
+
+00:00:58.480 --> 00:00:59.840
+the kinds of concepts we're talking
+
+00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:01.600
+about with this package, so I just
+
+00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:04.000
+thought it would be a good name for it.
+
+00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:05.760
+You can look up that concept
+
+00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:09.920
+and get a sense of it on Wikipedia.
+
+00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:13.119
+Next question is "how to deal with Dvorak
+
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+or however that's pronounced.
+
+00:01:15.759 --> 00:01:16.960
+This has always bugged me.
+
+00:01:16.960 --> 00:01:20.400
+Is there an Xmodmap mode?" So the thing
+
+00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:22.400
+with this is it's kind of surprising, but
+
+00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:23.360
+although Vim
+
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+was originally developed
+
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+with the idea of
+
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+the key bindings being on the home row,
+
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+it turns out that that is actually not a
+
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+major aspect
+
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+of the Vim editing experience, so
+
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+people who use the Dvorak layout
+
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+actually end up using the same keys as
+
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+they do on the normal QWERTY layout, so
+
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+they don't remap anything,
+
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+because
+
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+the power that Vim--or the
+
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+flexibility, the
+
+00:01:52.240 --> 00:01:55.600
+spiral that Vim enables on QWERTY-layout
+
+00:01:55.600 --> 00:01:56.880
+keyboards is exactly
+
+00:01:56.880 --> 00:01:58.719
+preserved, even on a Dvorak keyboard,
+
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+even though your
+
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+fingers are not in the same positions.
+
+00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:04.399
+It's not a big deal, actually.
+
+00:02:04.399 --> 00:02:09.119
+"I mostly use default model
+
+00:02:09.119 --> 00:02:10.879
+provided by vanilla Emacs and work and
+
+00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:12.319
+Org Mode for text editing. Can you give
+
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+me some examples
+
+00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:15.920
+of how the user can use the concept of
+
+00:02:15.920 --> 00:02:17.280
+"mode of mode"
+
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+to do some interesting editing?
+
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+Probably the main thing would be
+
+00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:27.920
+the keystrokes would be less
+
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+contrived.
+
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+The fewer modes you have,
+
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+the more modifiers you need
+
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+in order to do whatever it is that
+
+00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:41.280
+you're trying to do, because you've got,
+
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+essentially, with the Emacs model, you've got
+
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+a completely flat
+
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+keyboard structure. So all of the
+
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+different things that you might
+
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+want to express are all mapped to a flat
+
+00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:58.720
+keyboard, a set of keys.
+
+00:02:58.720 --> 00:03:02.840
+With this kind of
+
+00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:06.400
+modal structure, the more modes you have,
+
+00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:09.200
+the more the individual keystrokes
+
+00:03:09.200 --> 00:03:10.400
+become
+
+00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:13.200
+shorter and shorter. That could be one
+
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+benefit that would be provided.
+
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+With many modes, your keystrokes would
+
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+generally
+
+00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:20.080
+be a single keystroke long for even
+
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+relatively complex tasks,
+
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+because you're setting the context
+
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+beforehand.
+
+00:03:25.440 --> 00:03:27.200
+So you already say, "Oh, I'm going to be
+
+00:03:27.200 --> 00:03:30.840
+talking about this Org buffer
+
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+agenda," and then
+
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+all the keystrokes that you do at
+
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+that point would be in relation to that.
+
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+(Amin: I think we have time for like
+
+00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:44.080
+one more short question.)
+
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+One more short question... Okay, let's see.
+
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+"How do new modes come into existence?" You
+
+00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:50.400
+can make them yourself,
+
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+and you can specify them in Emacs
+
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+Lisp
+
+00:03:53.760 --> 00:03:56.159
+if you like, but there's also a simple way.
+
+00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:59.040
+You can also do it visually as we did.
+
+00:03:59.040 --> 00:04:02.720
+But yeah, defining them
+
+00:04:02.720 --> 00:04:04.799
+is essentially built on top of Hydra, but
+
+00:04:04.799 --> 00:04:07.519
+it could also be built on top of Evil or
+
+00:04:07.519 --> 00:04:09.120
+any other modal interface provider.
+
+00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:12.840
+There's an abstraction layer.
+
+00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:15.920
+(Amin: Okay. Thank you so much for your talk and
+
+00:04:15.920 --> 00:04:17.919
+for the live Q&A.)
+
+00:04:17.919 --> 00:04:21.440
+Sure, thank you. (Amin: Feel free to take
+
+00:04:21.440 --> 00:04:22.880
+up the rest of the questions either via
+
+00:04:22.880 --> 00:04:23.759
+IRC or
+
+00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:25.680
+on the pad on on your own time off the
+
+00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:26.960
+stream.)
+
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+Perfect. Yeah, I'll go ahead and put in
+
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+some answers there.
+
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+(Amin: Awesome, thank you.) All right, thank you.
+
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+Have a good one.
+
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+(Amin: Thanks you too)