From a835a2b017829395cba32e3fc2dc19a51f32cf69 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Sacha Chua Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 01:35:03 -0500 Subject: Add subtitles for talk07 --- ...ble-ui-paradigm--questions--sid-kasivajhula.vtt | 353 +++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 353 insertions(+) create mode 100644 2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--07-beyond-vim-and-emacs-a-scalable-ui-paradigm--questions--sid-kasivajhula.vtt (limited to '2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--07-beyond-vim-and-emacs-a-scalable-ui-paradigm--questions--sid-kasivajhula.vtt') diff --git a/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--07-beyond-vim-and-emacs-a-scalable-ui-paradigm--questions--sid-kasivajhula.vtt b/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--07-beyond-vim-and-emacs-a-scalable-ui-paradigm--questions--sid-kasivajhula.vtt new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ebe18254 --- /dev/null +++ b/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--07-beyond-vim-and-emacs-a-scalable-ui-paradigm--questions--sid-kasivajhula.vtt @@ -0,0 +1,353 @@ +WEBVTT + +00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:01.680 +(Amin: ... for the list of questions in whatever + +00:00:01.680 --> 00:00:03.520 +order you like.) + +00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:06.160 +Okay, so I see what package is used, + +00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:08.000 +probably symex-mode... + +00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:10.400 +Right. So the main package that was + +00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:11.360 +being demoed, + +00:00:11.360 --> 00:00:14.480 +that is not yet on MELPA. In fact, I + +00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:16.720 +haven't even decided on a name for it. + +00:00:16.720 --> 00:00:19.359 +I've alternately called + +00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:22.080 +it epistemic-mode, I've called it + +00:00:22.080 --> 00:00:26.000 +england, I called it + +00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:28.560 +all kinds of things, but at the moment + +00:00:28.560 --> 00:00:31.439 +you can find it on my Github. There's a link + +00:00:31.439 --> 00:00:32.960 +in the presentation itself, if you go to + +00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:35.600 +https://github.com/countvajhula, you'll see + +00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:38.879 +the package there. It's currently + +00:00:38.879 --> 00:00:39.840 +named Indra, but + +00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:42.879 +I'm not sure. (Organizer: Package is +called rigpa.) + +00:00:42.879 --> 00:00:46.800 +Actually, yes, the second one is + +00:00:46.800 --> 00:00:49.920 +correct. That was the name that I selected + +00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:53.280 +last night. That's because it... + +00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:55.760 +There's a concept in Tibetan Buddhism + +00:00:55.760 --> 00:00:57.520 +that seems like it might have something + +00:00:57.520 --> 00:00:58.480 +to do with + +00:00:58.480 --> 00:00:59.840 +the kinds of concepts we're talking + +00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:01.600 +about with this package, so I just + +00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:04.000 +thought it would be a good name for it. + +00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:05.760 +You can look up that concept + +00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:09.920 +and get a sense of it on Wikipedia. + +00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:13.119 +Next question is "how to deal with Dvorak + +00:01:13.119 --> 00:01:15.759 +or however that's pronounced. + +00:01:15.759 --> 00:01:16.960 +This has always bugged me. + +00:01:16.960 --> 00:01:20.400 +Is there an Xmodmap mode?" So the thing + +00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:22.400 +with this is it's kind of surprising, but + +00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:23.360 +although Vim + +00:01:23.360 --> 00:01:26.000 +was originally developed + +00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:27.200 +with the idea of + +00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:29.520 +the key bindings being on the home row, + +00:01:29.520 --> 00:01:32.000 +it turns out that that is actually not a + +00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:33.119 +major aspect + +00:01:33.119 --> 00:01:36.400 +of the Vim editing experience, so + +00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:38.560 +people who use the Dvorak layout + +00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:40.720 +actually end up using the same keys as + +00:01:40.720 --> 00:01:42.640 +they do on the normal QWERTY layout, so + +00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:44.720 +they don't remap anything, + +00:01:44.720 --> 00:01:48.159 +because + +00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:51.040 +the power that Vim--or the + +00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:52.240 +flexibility, the + +00:01:52.240 --> 00:01:55.600 +spiral that Vim enables on QWERTY-layout + +00:01:55.600 --> 00:01:56.880 +keyboards is exactly + +00:01:56.880 --> 00:01:58.719 +preserved, even on a Dvorak keyboard, + +00:01:58.719 --> 00:01:59.920 +even though your + +00:01:59.920 --> 00:02:01.920 +fingers are not in the same positions. + +00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:04.399 +It's not a big deal, actually. + +00:02:04.399 --> 00:02:09.119 +"I mostly use default model + +00:02:09.119 --> 00:02:10.879 +provided by vanilla Emacs and work and + +00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:12.319 +Org Mode for text editing. Can you give + +00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:13.840 +me some examples + +00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:15.920 +of how the user can use the concept of + +00:02:15.920 --> 00:02:17.280 +"mode of mode" + +00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:20.840 +to do some interesting editing? + +00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:24.640 +Probably the main thing would be + +00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:27.920 +the keystrokes would be less + +00:02:27.920 --> 00:02:28.959 +contrived. + +00:02:28.959 --> 00:02:32.080 +The fewer modes you have, + +00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:36.560 +the more modifiers you need + +00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:39.840 +in order to do whatever it is that + +00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:41.280 +you're trying to do, because you've got, + +00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:44.800 +essentially, with the Emacs model, you've got + +00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:48.080 +a completely flat + +00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:50.959 +keyboard structure. So all of the + +00:02:50.959 --> 00:02:52.160 +different things that you might + +00:02:52.160 --> 00:02:55.680 +want to express are all mapped to a flat + +00:02:55.680 --> 00:02:58.720 +keyboard, a set of keys. + +00:02:58.720 --> 00:03:02.840 +With this kind of + +00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:06.400 +modal structure, the more modes you have, + +00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:09.200 +the more the individual keystrokes + +00:03:09.200 --> 00:03:10.400 +become + +00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:13.200 +shorter and shorter. That could be one + +00:03:13.200 --> 00:03:14.959 +benefit that would be provided. + +00:03:14.959 --> 00:03:17.519 +With many modes, your keystrokes would + +00:03:17.519 --> 00:03:18.000 +generally + +00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:20.080 +be a single keystroke long for even + +00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:22.080 +relatively complex tasks, + +00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:24.159 +because you're setting the context + +00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:25.440 +beforehand. + +00:03:25.440 --> 00:03:27.200 +So you already say, "Oh, I'm going to be + +00:03:27.200 --> 00:03:30.840 +talking about this Org buffer + +00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:33.440 +agenda," and then + +00:03:33.440 --> 00:03:36.319 +all the keystrokes that you do at + +00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:39.599 +that point would be in relation to that. + +00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:42.159 +(Amin: I think we have time for like + +00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:44.080 +one more short question.) + +00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:46.879 +One more short question... Okay, let's see. + +00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:48.879 +"How do new modes come into existence?" You + +00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:50.400 +can make them yourself, + +00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:53.040 +and you can specify them in Emacs + +00:03:53.040 --> 00:03:53.760 +Lisp + +00:03:53.760 --> 00:03:56.159 +if you like, but there's also a simple way. + +00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:59.040 +You can also do it visually as we did. + +00:03:59.040 --> 00:04:02.720 +But yeah, defining them + +00:04:02.720 --> 00:04:04.799 +is essentially built on top of Hydra, but + +00:04:04.799 --> 00:04:07.519 +it could also be built on top of Evil or + +00:04:07.519 --> 00:04:09.120 +any other modal interface provider. + +00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:12.840 +There's an abstraction layer. + +00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:15.920 +(Amin: Okay. Thank you so much for your talk and + +00:04:15.920 --> 00:04:17.919 +for the live Q&A.) + +00:04:17.919 --> 00:04:21.440 +Sure, thank you. (Amin: Feel free to take + +00:04:21.440 --> 00:04:22.880 +up the rest of the questions either via + +00:04:22.880 --> 00:04:23.759 +IRC or + +00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:25.680 +on the pad on on your own time off the + +00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:26.960 +stream.) + +00:04:26.960 --> 00:04:28.639 +Perfect. Yeah, I'll go ahead and put in + +00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:30.000 +some answers there. + +00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:32.240 +(Amin: Awesome, thank you.) All right, thank you. + +00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:33.120 +Have a good one. + +00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:36.880 +(Amin: Thanks you too) -- cgit v1.2.3