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[[!template text="""I believe we are live, so hi again folks and welcome to a""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""little bit of an unstructured time that we wanted to have for""" start="00:00:08.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""this particular EmacsConf. We have a bit of a lighter""" start="00:00:12.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""afternoon compared to previous years and we just thought it""" start="00:00:15.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""would be a nice opportunity for us and for you to join if""" start="00:00:19.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you've got anything to share like you wanted maybe to have a""" start="00:00:24.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""talk this year but haven't had the time to submit a""" start="00:00:27.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""presentation well now's your time think of it more like the""" start="00:00:29.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""traditional workshops that Emacs Paris or Emacs Berlin""" start="00:00:32.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""tends to run so if you've got anything to share we've made""" start="00:00:36.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""sure to publish the link to this room on IRC and perhaps as""" start="00:00:39.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""well on the website And yeah, it's just a moment for you. If""" start="00:00:43.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it's a little slow because people do not join, we might start""" start="00:00:49.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""chatting a little bit about Emacs Conf in general, and""" start="00:00:53.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""perhaps take a little bit of advance on the closing remarks""" start="00:00:56.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for the day, just so that I can go to bed early. But otherwise,""" start="00:00:59.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the mic is yours.""" start="00:01:04.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Does any of my fellow co-organizers want to maybe join in and""" start="00:01:10.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""say a word? Maybe you, Corwin?""" start="00:01:14.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Who, me? No, I usually just sit here quietly. You know me,""" start="00:01:19.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Leo. Nothing to say to me. I see Karthik here.""" start="00:01:23.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Karthik has joined the chat. We can see what Karthik has been""" start="00:01:31.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""up to.""" start="00:01:35.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Hi, everyone. Hi. Hey, I hear you.""" start="00:01:44.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Is there anything you wanted to share, Karthik?""" start="00:01:53.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Nothing in particular, but if people suggest topics and""" start="00:01:58.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""have something to say or show off, then I'll jump in. Right,""" start="00:02:01.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you're coming in as someone who wants to react to stuff, not""" start="00:02:06.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""someone who wants to present, but that's completely fine""" start="00:02:10.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""too. But that means that we are still stopped for people who""" start="00:02:12.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""want to chat. We're still pointing fingers at people in the""" start="00:02:15.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""chat, otherwise.""" start="00:02:18.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Well, and if you're watching and you want to. Yep. If you, I""" start="00:02:36.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""was just going to say, if, uh, if you're watching the stream""" start="00:02:40.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and you'd like to get involved, uh, you can join, uh,""" start="00:02:42.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""libera.chat on IRC and join the emacsconf-gen channel. Um, uh, or,""" start="00:02:45.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""uh, just, just, uh, reach out in one of those channels and,""" start="00:02:53.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and we'll, we'll, we'll ship you a link to join in the BBB""" start="00:02:57.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""here. I'm not sure if that got auto published. I didn't see it""" start="00:03:01.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""on the website.""" start="00:03:05.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]

<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Vertico""" start="00:03:08.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""I can suggest a topic, since many people have demoed or used""" start="00:03:08.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""transient in this conf. I was wondering if someone has any""" start="00:03:15.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""interesting uses for transient.""" start="00:03:20.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It's an interesting topic, sadly one in which I'm not going""" start="00:03:25.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to be personally able to participate in because I'm still""" start="00:03:28.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""old school. It took me, you know, the VertiCo stack. Did we""" start="00:03:31.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""actually present something on vertico at EmacsConf? I'm not""" start="00:03:37.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""sure, but it's a completion engine in separate packages,""" start="00:03:40.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""very similar to what people may be more familiar with, i.e.""" start="00:03:44.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Ivy, Helm, ido, all those tools. But I'm old school and I""" start="00:03:49.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""still use Hydra when it comes to interaction. But I've been""" start="00:03:55.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""meaning to transition into Transient at some point and I'd""" start="00:03:59.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""actually be quite interested in people sharing how they've""" start="00:04:05.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""been able to use Transient to supplement their interfaces.""" start="00:04:09.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but I'm obviously a big user as I think most people would be in""" start="00:04:13.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""this room and on live viewers. The Git, I use it plenty and""" start="00:04:17.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it's a wonderful interface and I wish I could develop""" start="00:04:25.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""similar interfaces for my own packages that I manage. So""" start="00:04:29.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""maybe at some point. But apparently part of the discussion I""" start="00:04:33.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""think revolves around the fact that transients might be a""" start="00:04:36.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""little hard to approach for people who are perhaps used to""" start="00:04:40.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the simplicity of a Hydra set up with aboabo's packages. So,""" start="00:04:44.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""if anyone has got anything to say about this, you're more""" start="00:04:50.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""than welcome to join us on BBB. You can also chat it up on IRC""" start="00:04:52.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and we'll try to give voice to the lines you write and we might""" start="00:04:57.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""be able to react. Otherwise, I suggest if we got a call in.""" start="00:05:01.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Although that's where I was going to take it to. I think""" start="00:05:05.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that's a perfect question. Because for once, although""" start="00:05:07.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""obviously any of us can probably talk about how interesting""" start="00:05:11.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it is at some length, it's not something that Leo and I,""" start="00:05:16.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""normally such loquacious people, have any real insight to.""" start="00:05:20.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So kind of pick up the phone, call in, jump on the BBB, or""" start="00:05:26.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""through your comments in IRC, exactly as Leo says. Love to,""" start="00:05:31.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""love to have, uh, invite more participation in the""" start="00:05:35.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""discussion and thinking about how to answer that. I myself,""" start="00:05:38.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""uh, you know, jump into my own workflow and I'd start""" start="00:05:41.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""thinking about, oh, well, what is working for me so well, I""" start="00:05:44.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""haven't dug into that sort of where I take the question.""" start="00:05:49.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]

<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""which-key""" start="00:05:58.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""which-key actually is the direct answer to that, right? For""" start="00:05:58.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""me, that particular package, which seems to come up a lot in""" start="00:06:02.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""sort of help-adjacent forums as being a discovery tool, a""" start="00:06:06.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""way to learn different bindings. I self-identify as being""" start="00:06:09.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""kind of on a path of memorizing all the keystrokes I'm going""" start="00:06:15.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to care about and how to find ones that I, it would have been""" start="00:06:19.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""convenient if I cared more about before today, right? So""" start="00:06:23.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it's, for me, a lot of Emacs's power is the, you know,""" start="00:06:27.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""whatever brings to me the knowledge of what I should have""" start="00:06:32.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""done a moment ago, need to do, you know, how to do what I need to""" start="00:06:35.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""do next and so on.""" start="00:06:39.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]

<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""eldoc""" start="00:06:46.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""I'll also be a user of which-key here and all the fancy tools""" start="00:06:46.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""like eldoc which provides you in your modeline the signature""" start="00:06:50.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""of the function you're currently writing such as if you're""" start="00:06:53.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""writing an elist function but you've suddenly forgotten""" start="00:06:56.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which is the first argument which is the second argument""" start="00:06:59.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""usually you have if you stay inside the function it will show""" start="00:07:03.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""in the modline what the arguments are supposed to be and what""" start="00:07:07.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""their names are so that it's actually pretty useful. And you""" start="00:07:10.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""get similar things if you're writing other languages, like""" start="00:07:13.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I write Go for a living, and it's always good to have the""" start="00:07:16.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""signature appears in the model line whenever you're""" start="00:07:20.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""writing the start of a function. So I'm seeing, I'll read out""" start="00:07:22.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a couple comments here. I just, I note the, you know, use of""" start="00:07:28.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""transient as a bridge to Elisp, especially if you don't know""" start="00:07:34.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it well, you're not interested in learning it, even""" start="00:07:38.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""perhaps. I've certainly run into that. You know, oh, yuck,""" start="00:07:42.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Elisp. No, I'm doing fine with Customize or whatever works""" start="00:07:48.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for you, right? That's a lot of the Emacs spirit. So I hear""" start="00:07:51.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]

<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Casual""" start="00:07:54.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""that. Uh, and then, and that brings up casual, which, uh,""" start="00:07:54.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I've seen a lot of discussion of personally, and that, that""" start="00:08:00.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""looks, uh, you know, uh, it's an, all of these types of things""" start="00:08:04.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""like org actually, which we've been talking a lot about this""" start="00:08:09.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""weekend. you know, bring together a lot of functionality""" start="00:08:12.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""kind of cross-cuttingly across Emacs, all the different""" start="00:08:17.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""languages that we can figure out how to view nicely in Emacs""" start="00:08:21.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""will, you know, fit into some sort of, you know, kind of""" start="00:08:26.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""literate format to talk about. code that needs to span a lot""" start="00:08:29.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""of languages for whatever reason, right? So I guess my bite""" start="00:08:34.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""at the apple there. Yeah, casual's neat and so is transient.""" start="00:08:40.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I haven't... I haven't for myself... I've seen some comments in""" start="00:08:47.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""chat throughout the weekend good discussion around hey""" start="00:08:52.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that's you know it's kind of hard to learn how to use how do I""" start="00:08:56.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""fit this into my use case how do I think about things in the""" start="00:08:59.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""same terms that transients abstractions do so that you know""" start="00:09:02.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to the extent I need to I build my program in terms of those""" start="00:09:07.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""same abstractions or to the extent that isn't necessary or""" start="00:09:10.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""helpful just so that it's natural for me to set up my""" start="00:09:14.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""customized variables so that my saved routines just do the""" start="00:09:18.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""right thing or my read routine spectrum in the right place or""" start="00:09:22.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""whatever, tying the room together, sorts of integration. I""" start="00:09:25.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""haven't run into that because for me, I'm on this journey of""" start="00:09:30.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""learning the keys was my point. I'm not actually preaching""" start="00:09:34.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for that's the way to use Emacs, quite the reverse.""" start="00:09:36.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""away.""" start="00:09:41.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""All right, I see that some people are joining us on the BBB, so""" start="00:09:42.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""if you've got a mic on, we're gonna assume that you want to be""" start="00:09:50.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""chatting, but don't hesitate to interrupt us if you've got""" start="00:09:53.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""anything to contribute, meaningful otherwise, if you just""" start="00:09:56.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""want to chat it up with us, we are also here for this. Yeah, and""" start="00:10:00.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to do the radio announcer thing a little harder too. Like,""" start="00:10:05.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you know, I guess in my mind, I'm thinking of this as a call-in""" start="00:10:08.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""format. Just come over and grab a microphone and talk about""" start="00:10:10.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""your thoughts and whether it's something that Leo or I are""" start="00:10:13.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""saying, or Sacha, that you've been pretty quiet over there,""" start="00:10:16.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that are setting you going, or you just kind of walk into the""" start="00:10:19.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""room with, hey guys, why aren't we talking about, or let's""" start="00:10:24.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""talk more about, or thoughts from the weekend, which as Leo""" start="00:10:27.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""mentioned, is kind of where we're gonna where we in our own""" start="00:10:31.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""minds are sort of sitting, walking into the room.""" start="00:10:35.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]

<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Closing remarks""" start="00:10:37.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Perhaps what we could do is I mentioned that we could perhaps""" start="00:10:37.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""take a little bit of advance on the closing remark. I know it""" start="00:10:49.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""feels weird to be closing a conference that has not yet""" start="00:10:52.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""finished because we still have many talks in the afternoon.""" start="00:10:54.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""If I count, we have one, two, three, four, five talks. Well,""" start="00:10:57.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""actually, no, four. So there's still plenty to go. But""" start="00:11:01.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""since, you know, you know, I'm still in Europe and it's still""" start="00:11:05.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""pretty tough to maintain composure until 11. Might be a good""" start="00:11:10.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""time for us maybe to read over the closing remarks. How do you""" start="00:11:14.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""feel, Corwin, about this and Sacha, how do you feel about""" start="00:11:18.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""this? Yep, that'd be cool. Sacha? Fine with me. People can""" start="00:11:21.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""continue to share thoughts and ideas in the chat or in the""" start="00:11:27.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Etherpad and we can go through the closing remarks. You want""" start="00:11:30.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to share the sun-close? Uh, I do have them. I'm not sure. So you""" start="00:11:34.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""did copy over. Okay, good. I can kind of rotate the screen""" start="00:11:40.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""between them if that works. And I'll try to jump over to chat a""" start="00:11:43.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""little more. Uh, you know, sure. I'm putting the link on BBB""" start="00:11:47.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""that's going to be easier. Thank you.""" start="00:11:58.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Pretty sure I have the Sunday close pad here, but I'll take""" start="00:12:01.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""your link, sir.""" start="00:12:08.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""doing the Saturday, Sunday close, sorry. Instead of having""" start="00:12:40.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""people chat, but if you have something to say right now, feel""" start="00:12:45.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""can also use any of the private message type of features. Did""" start="00:12:57.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you guys want me to bring up the pad here? I did pull it up. Oh,""" start="00:13:01.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""wait a little bit.""" start="00:13:18.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""listener. First time on the show. Wow.""" start="00:13:30.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]

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[[!template text="""related to graphical web browsing. Because I know that""" start="00:13:50.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that's a point of friction for me, for sure. I don't know how""" start="00:13:55.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""much other people experience that. I know that I've""" start="00:14:01.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""certainly heard murmurs about it. But I've been""" start="00:14:04.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""speculating about a couple of thoughts about that recently""" start="00:14:08.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for some of the stuff that can be done in order to get like the""" start="00:14:14.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""sort of invasive graphical JavaScript, giant""" start="00:14:18.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""unmanageable spec sort of version of the browser working""" start="00:14:22.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""more manageable EWW kind of thing.""" start="00:14:31.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""two major thoughts for strategies, because God knows this is""" start="00:14:42.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""way too big of a thing for me to tackle just for me. And I have""" start="00:14:47.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""been kind of thinking, you know, where do I go about getting""" start="00:14:52.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""like maybe, you know, pitching ideas that have been on the""" start="00:14:59.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""back of my mind.""" start="00:15:03.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""application while ago called browsh. Uh, it's a, I'm going to""" start="00:15:14.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""emacsconf-gen.""" start="00:15:25.128" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So let's see here. It's not going.""" start="00:15:26.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Oh, trying to light space. Cool. So this is a, I have no""" start="00:15:31.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""developed this does not know I exist, but I stumbled upon""" start="00:15:46.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""this in the wild. And what's really quite interesting about""" start="00:15:50.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it is that it will run, it's effectively a headless browser""" start="00:15:54.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""in the background and then convert this into blocks of text""" start="00:15:58.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for the sake of rendering inside a terminal. This is""" start="00:16:04.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""especially helpful in the case where you can run the daemon""" start="00:16:07.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""instance on a completely different box than the one that""" start="00:16:15.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you're actually running your shell on. And you have this""" start="00:16:20.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""complete separation between the I/O and the actual handling""" start="00:16:25.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""of all of the complex, kind of opaque, really unmanageable,""" start="00:16:30.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""big browser stuff. I'm thinking that there's definitely""" start="00:16:36.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""something that we could consider cannibalizing here,""" start="00:16:39.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""org-web-tools""" start="00:19:00.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""of things related to that stuff would be org-web-tools, I""" start="00:19:00.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""think is what it's called, from alphapapa. It'll allow you""" start="00:19:03.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to download a webpage into an Org Mode document. Or if you""" start="00:19:07.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""primarily, you would want to use the next browser or""" start="00:19:16.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""saved in a text document. And in the case of Next, it's""" start="00:19:27.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""written in Common Lisp and is very deeply inspired by Emacs.""" start="00:19:33.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""conference. We're doing a brief open mic session. And we've""" start="00:19:45.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""been joined, we have... Sorry, I was just going to introduce""" start="00:19:50.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you, Plasma. Sorry. Nasty feedback from you, Sacha. Sorry.""" start="00:19:56.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We'll definitely have to check out integration for those""" start="00:20:13.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""web tools. This could definitely help me.""" start="00:20:22.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]

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[[!template text="""dramatically improved my browser experience, but I'm""" start="00:20:32.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""still definitely having that last little bit of context""" start="00:20:35.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""might be part of the recipe, but I definitely think that, you""" start="00:20:43.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""represents a big piecewise improvement I'm going to have to""" start="00:20:56.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""pursue. So thank you.""" start="00:21:00.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So I think that that intersects some some several""" start="00:21:05.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""conversations that I think we've heard throughout the""" start="00:21:09.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""weekend kind of touching on the idea of, you know, baking our""" start="00:21:11.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""baking our thoughts into the core of Emacs right. and""" start="00:21:17.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""realizing, oh yeah, this is a pattern other people or a""" start="00:21:22.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""problem other people are running into or a way that other""" start="00:21:27.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""people work or a way that people want Emacs to look or just""" start="00:21:30.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""starts me thinking about like alternate key binding""" start="00:21:38.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""packages, which over the last few years, I feel like we've""" start="00:21:40.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""seen just a ton of options in a space that had been somewhat""" start="00:21:43.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""dormant, right? There was evil and everything else. And now""" start="00:21:47.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""there is a lot of granularity in my mind to everything else.""" start="00:21:50.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So although I'm not using any of these things, I think I've""" start="00:21:54.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""bumped into them a lot. A couple of other related topics in""" start="00:21:57.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""case that jogs anyone's interest to jump in and join the""" start="00:22:02.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""Any other person wants to share something in the room""" start="00:22:16.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""currently? I'm seeing plenty of familiar names, so this is""" start="00:22:18.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""an invitation for those who I haven't heard so far to come in""" start="00:22:22.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and chat.""" start="00:22:26.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""been experimenting with using some crap to review ELIS""" start="00:22:34.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""security issues. That's something.""" start="00:22:39.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you want to leave. I'm not sure that is. Yeah. I'm not sure if""" start="00:22:43.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Wes and Marcel wants to deprive themselves of, well,""" start="00:22:49.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""actually unmuted yourself. So please go. What? I've only""" start="00:22:52.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""got my name, that's all. I was just reading out your comment""" start="00:22:56.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""from the chat. Yeah. Just jump in on any topic, honestly.""" start="00:23:00.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""talk what, you know, they've recently started trying to do""" start="00:23:09.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""in Emacs. That's exactly right. A hundred percent. Okay.""" start="00:23:12.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""colleague has been like bugging me all the time about, hey,""" start="00:23:22.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""try semgrep. It's pretty cool if you have like, you know,""" start="00:23:25.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""decent rules to review stuff. And I postponed it for the""" start="00:23:28.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""works for elisp source code review at all. And the answer is""" start="00:23:38.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""for like reviewing closure code. There are no rules to my""" start="00:23:50.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""knowledge. I started writing some and yeah, it does work. I""" start="00:23:55.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""have no idea how many, how many other people are trying to""" start="00:23:59.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""actively look into Emacs security issues. It feels to me""" start="00:24:03.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""like it's like a handful at best, like I don't know,""" start="00:24:05.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""somewhere between three and five people maybe. And yeah. If""" start="00:24:07.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""anyone knows any rule sets for making this easier, I would be""" start="00:24:13.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""very interested, because then we'd have a common place to""" start="00:24:17.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""share them. Maybe it'd be appropriate for me to jump back in""" start="00:24:21.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""here and just share that, you know, you're somebody that I""" start="00:24:24.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""definitely trust with these issues. We could talk in the""" start="00:24:28.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""abstract at least about places where, you know, Emacs, not""" start="00:24:31.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""necessarily the Emacs team, but maybe more the Free""" start="00:24:36.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""year's conference hosts are myself, Leo Vivier, and Corwin Brust""" start="00:36:07.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and well not technically not FlowyCoder, not yet at least.""" start="00:36:11.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Flowy, as you know, joined us last year and has been running""" start="00:36:16.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""check-ins in the background and we are very thankful for his""" start="00:36:19.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""contributions and maybe this afternoon he might be able to""" start="00:36:22.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""come. This is a fun process if you want to imagine what it's""" start="00:36:27.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""like for us backstage. Imagine, you know, Flowy's like""" start="00:36:31.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""getting everybody warmed up, goes in, talks to, gets a""" start="00:36:35.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""conversation going, everybody's ready, you know, the""" start="00:36:38.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""video is playing of the live stream, he's doing the warm hand""" start="00:36:41.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""up, everything ready, checking everything out. And then he""" start="00:36:45.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""hands the torch to Leo, or maybe me, and then we get to come in""" start="00:36:48.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and have this amazing conversation based on all the buzz""" start="00:36:52.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that's just been built up, knowing everything works out""" start="00:36:54.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""great. And one of these times, what Leo is telling you is that""" start="00:36:57.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Flowy's just going to give Leo or me the cold shoulder and do""" start="00:37:00.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the hosting himself. He did a great job with that last year,""" start="00:37:04.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and we're looking forward to more of that. All right, I'll do""" start="00:37:07.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a quick fire of thankings because we need to soon move on to""" start="00:37:14.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the next talk of the day. I'd also like obviously to thank""" start="00:37:17.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Sacha for managing the two streams and the one stream today""" start="00:37:21.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""because she's in the background making sure that""" start="00:37:25.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""everything goes all right for all our automation. And""" start="00:37:27.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""obviously Flowy again for the check-ins. I want also to thank,""" start="00:37:30.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to extend my thankings, to the proposal review volunteers""" start="00:37:34.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""James Howell, Jean-Christophe Helary, and others for""" start="00:37:40.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""helping with the early acceptance process. I mentioned""" start="00:37:44.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""them, the captioning volunteers, Mark Lewin, Rodrigo""" start="00:37:48.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Morales, Anoush, annona, and James Howell, and some speakers""" start="00:37:50.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""who captioned their own talks. I'm thinking about Eduardo""" start="00:37:54.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""especially. I guess thanks to me, be weird for me to read""" start="00:37:56.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""this, but I'm still going to do this, for fiddling with the""" start="00:38:03.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""audio and getting things nicely synced. For those who do not""" start="00:38:07.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""know, I also manage, I make sure that the audio is""" start="00:38:11.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""normalized, cleaned up, and all this for the conference,""" start="00:38:13.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and usually it's one of the few things that Sacha doesn't""" start="00:38:16.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""like doing, and I'm very happy to pick the little crumbs to""" start="00:38:18.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""make sure that Emacs is as cool as it can get. Also thanks to""" start="00:38:21.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Bhavin Gandhi, Christopher Howard, Joseph Turner and""" start="00:38:26.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Screwless for quality checking the videos in the""" start="00:38:28.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""backstage. Thanks obviously to Shoshin for the music that""" start="00:38:30.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""has been accompanying us during the breaks. We've""" start="00:38:34.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""mentioned him already, but thanks to Amin Bandali for help""" start="00:38:37.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""with infrastructure and communication. Thanks to Ry P for""" start="00:38:41.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the server that we're using for OBS streaming and for""" start="00:38:45.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""processing the videos. That's part of the reason why we are""" start="00:38:47.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""able to get the titles out so fast. And Corwin already""" start="00:38:50.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""mentioned the FSF but thanks to the Free Software""" start="00:38:55.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Foundation for Emacs itself, the mailing list,""" start="00:38:57.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""media.emacs.org server where we host the conferences. We""" start="00:39:01.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""might have a little word about donations and funding the FSF""" start="00:39:05.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""later in the afternoon. I'll make sure that Corbyn""" start="00:39:10.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""gets to it. But finally, thanks to the many users and""" start="00:39:14.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""commuters to the project and team that create all the""" start="00:39:17.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""awesome free software that we use, especially""" start="00:39:20.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""BigBlueButton, Etherpad, IceCast, OBS, The Lounge,""" start="00:39:22.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""LiberaChat, FFmpeg, OpenAI, Whisper, WhisperX, and the""" start="00:39:26.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Aeneas Forced Alignment Tool site transfer sub. Anyway,""" start="00:39:30.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we're going to get started with the next talk of the day.""" start="00:39:33.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We'll continue with the thankings later on. Enjoy the""" start="00:39:35.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""conference. Thanks for tuning in, really appreciate you.""" start="00:39:38.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""All right, we are off air.""" start="00:39:43.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So I will go back to Mumble now.""" start="00:39:45.509" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""All right. That was pretty good.""" start="00:39:45.543" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""That was good, right?""" start="00:39:51.735" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I think that was good. I'm glad we did that.""" start="00:39:52.876" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Thank you for that. I'm hoping we would do.""" start="00:39:55.859" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Yeah, sorry. For the people who are still in chat, right now""" start="00:39:59.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we are moving to the next live talk, so feel free to join us""" start="00:40:02.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""later. We might stay in this room, we do not know, but we'll""" start="00:40:06.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""see you later anyway. Okay, bye-bye.""" start="00:40:08.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]]

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