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<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Introduction""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Hi, EmacsConf. This is &quot;Colour your Emacs with ease&quot;.""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm Ryota Sawada, and today's agenda is:""" start="00:00:11.328" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""start with a brief introduction.""" start="00:00:14.849" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I will be talking about colours quite a bit.""" start="00:00:16.650" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""What colours do you like?""" start="00:00:19.720" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Colour spaces and some packages such""" start="00:00:21.453" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""as color.el, ct.el. I'll be touching on a theme called""" start="00:00:23.600" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Hasliberg theme, which I created,""" start="00:00:27.880" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""before wrapping up the talk.""" start="00:00:31.057" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""A quick introduction about the talk. The slide is""" start="00:00:34.140" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""available as an Org mode file at Codeberg. If you're""" start="00:00:36.960" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""looking at it from Org mode, you probably want to have""" start="00:00:40.560" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""rainbow mode turned on for the best viewing. This is the""" start="00:00:43.520" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""case with the presentation today. I'm Ryota Sawada and I'm""" start="00:00:47.640" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""available at rytswd at usual places.""" start="00:00:52.560" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]

<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""What colour do you like?""" start="00:00:58.668" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""What colour do you like?""" start="00:00:58.668" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""You might be able to tell I like orange. That's""" start="00:01:01.291" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the colour that I use often.""" start="00:01:05.000" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Emacs gives me all the control I want,""" start="00:01:07.857" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""so naturally I wanted to make it aesthetically""" start="00:01:09.959" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""pleasing to my taste, which meant that""" start="00:01:13.120" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I would like to have a dark theme, subtle theme""" start="00:01:16.024" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""with orange as a main accent colour, but not""" start="00:01:19.726" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""too orange, so not everything very orange.""" start="00:01:23.768" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Maybe use another blue-ish colour""" start="00:01:26.804" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""as another accent. Note that this presentation is""" start="00:01:29.674" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""based on the Hasliberg theme, more on that""" start="00:01:32.930" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""later. But when I started my Emacs journey, I didn't start""" start="00:01:36.200" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""with creating a new theme from get-go. I started with a theme""" start="00:01:40.600" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""called Nova Theme. I really liked it. I made a few tweaks""" start="00:01:45.200" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""around Org Mode and headings, so that they were a bit more was""" start="00:01:49.480" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""my liking, which was around orange being sprinkled across.""" start="00:01:55.040" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I got to it very nice looking and I really liked it, but when""" start="00:02:00.760" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I started a lot of coding tasks with it, I realized one""" start="00:02:07.960" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""thing: that it was very colourful, and in a way, distracting.""" start="00:02:13.840" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it actually wasn't about Nova Theme's fault. It was just""" start="00:02:19.800" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""many editors, including Emacs and VS Code and other editors""" start="00:02:24.040" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and modern themes, are filled with colours. Let's have a""" start="00:02:27.480" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""look. At the top left, you can see Nova theme with a bit of a""" start="00:02:31.680" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""pale greenish background with a few colours. Purple,""" start="00:02:38.040" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""pink, blue, green. You can see some colours like that with""" start="00:02:42.240" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Nova theme. Nice looking colours, but still colourful. Modus""" start="00:02:47.400" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Vivendi Tinted, bottom left, is also very nice looking""" start="00:02:51.520" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""modern theme, but quite colourful. The same can be said""" start="00:02:56.080" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for ef-themes, owl edition at top right,""" start="00:02:59.361" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and Doom Noe as another, bottom right.""" start="00:03:03.135" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""That led me to think: how can I make my code editing""" start="00:03:07.980" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and coding tasks not too distracting, and I can focus on""" start="00:03:13.760" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""writing code. That was something I could manage with Org""" start="00:03:18.600" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Mode, where I just specifically, basically used orange""" start="00:03:22.760" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""shades and not too much more. That's what you're seeing at""" start="00:03:26.400" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the moment. I wanted to do something similar with coding""" start="00:03:29.400" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and any general code. That led me to the journey of""" start="00:03:33.520" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""creating my own theme.""" start="00:03:37.960" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]

<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Colour spaces: HSL, LCH , and more""" start="00:03:42.120" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""But before going to the theme, I need to talk about colour""" start="00:03:42.120" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""spaces. sRGB, standard RGB, is probably something that""" start="00:03:44.680" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""many people are familiar with. HSL is for hue, saturation,""" start="00:03:49.080" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""lightness. LCH is for luminance or lightness, chroma, and""" start="00:03:53.440" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""hue. Those are the colour spaces probably common used in""" start="00:03:58.360" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""various spaces, but when it comes to perceptual uniformity,""" start="00:04:03.320" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""there is an important difference between the colour""" start="00:04:08.000" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""spaces. Human perception of colour is not very""" start="00:04:11.600" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""straightforward. We can see in the reference here...""" start="00:04:14.800" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Let's have a look.""" start="00:04:17.880" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""At the top you can see the shade coming from left""" start="00:04:19.507" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""green to the right blue,""" start="00:04:23.160" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and in the top image, you can see half of""" start="00:04:26.371" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it, perhaps, is very similar green colour""" start="00:04:30.960" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and then when it comes to blue,""" start="00:04:34.521" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you can see more of the different colour gradients""" start="00:04:36.142" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""coming into play. The bottom colour space is based on a""" start="00:04:40.240" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""perceptually uniform colour space, which gives us a bit more""" start="00:04:45.560" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""evenly distributed colour gradient, which will be""" start="00:04:50.480" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""something more suitable for deciding on the theme setup and""" start="00:04:55.040" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the colour setup, where you can have various themes that are""" start="00:04:59.040" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""defined for human perceptions.""" start="00:05:04.000" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Perceptual uniformity is important. For that, it is""" start="00:05:10.440" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""important to mention about CIE, or &quot;International""" start="00:05:14.320" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Commission of Illumination&quot; in English. They created""" start="00:05:17.880" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""important colour spaces called CIE XYZ which was from 1931,""" start="00:05:23.480" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""CIELAB, and LUV, 1976,""" start="00:05:29.480" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""respectively. Those are the colour spaces used in various""" start="00:05:33.320" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""fields and industries and still relevant. There is a""" start="00:05:37.520" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""quite a bit that you can read up on.""" start="00:05:41.840" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm not a colour expert so have some references here,""" start="00:05:44.899" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but the TLDR of all of that is""" start="00:05:48.961" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""consider using LCH variants over RGB or HSL""" start="00:05:52.520" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for better perceptual uniformity.""" start="00:05:57.526" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Specifically CIE Lab-based LCH,""" start="00:06:00.607" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which is often called Lab LCH""" start="00:06:03.960" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""or just LCH. CIELUV-based LCH""" start="00:06:06.710" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""is called LUV LCH. There is a new rather modern LCH setup""" start="00:06:10.360" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""called OK LCH which is based on OK Lab.""" start="00:06:16.520" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So those are the colour spaces""" start="00:06:19.997" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that are worth looking at when it comes to creating""" start="00:06:22.100" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""shades.""" start="00:06:24.280" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]

<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""color.el and ct.el""" start="00:06:25.885" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""How do you create shades? Color.el and ct.el are""" start="00:06:25.885" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""great solutions. You can create shades and different""" start="00:06:29.760" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""colours based on RGB and hex. You can see in the red example""" start="00:06:33.200" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""here, FF0000 is a bright red. You can darken it by providing""" start="00:06:37.800" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""less red values like CC or 88. You can see that the colours""" start="00:06:43.840" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""are slightly darker than the FF0000. But what if you are""" start="00:06:48.640" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""working with the complex colours such as FBB151, this""" start="00:06:52.840" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""particular orange? That's where color.el, ct.el come""" start="00:06:57.440" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""into play. Color.el is a built-in package in Emacs,""" start="00:07:01.880" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""so you can use it by just requiring it.""" start="00:07:05.744" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""color-darken-name and""" start="00:07:08.341" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""providing the colour with the hex value with 40%""" start="00:07:10.400" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""gives you a darker orange""" start="00:07:13.906" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""without doing too much of a colour computation""" start="00:07:16.887" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""by hand. This hex value is something that Emacs""" start="00:07:20.040" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""understands and rainbow mode does as well. When it comes""" start="00:07:23.840" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to ct.el, it's not a built-in solution, but it's more""" start="00:07:27.320" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""versatile. It works with various colour spaces so you can""" start="00:07:30.840" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""see that ct-edit-hsl-l-dec by 40% would give""" start="00:07:34.840" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""us a darker colour by 40%. We can also use LCH variant which""" start="00:07:41.240" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""can use the LCH colour spaces for darkening the colour. This""" start="00:07:47.760" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""results in slightly different colours for this particular""" start="00:07:53.480" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""orange, but if you're working with the green or blue or some""" start="00:07:56.920" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""other colours, it might be worth looking at LCH variant""" start="00:08:00.200" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""rather than other colour spaces.""" start="00:08:04.178" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]

<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Hasliberg theme""" start="00:08:08.400" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""With that, let's have a look at Hasliberg theme.""" start="00:08:08.400" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""This is a theme that I created personally""" start="00:08:11.204" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and the name is based on the Swiss Alps""" start="00:08:13.708" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and with the following ideas in mind. It focuses""" start="00:08:16.410" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""on setting up shades. Shades, by that...""" start="00:08:20.480" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""You can see how the top""" start="00:08:25.032" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""of the heading here is a bright orange colour, and""" start="00:08:27.000" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""other orange colours, this heading and this heading""" start="00:08:31.840" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""are based on the top""" start="00:08:35.759" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""orange colour and then giving some shade and the luminance""" start="00:08:37.720" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""adjustment essentially. It follows a pattern from web""" start="00:08:40.840" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""design and tailwind colour shades are a great example that""" start="00:08:44.640" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you can have a look.""" start="00:08:49.040" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It does not use ct.el as it aims to be fully""" start="00:08:50.816" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""dependency free and does not consider colour contrast for""" start="00:08:54.440" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""accessibility. This is because it's personal and I""" start="00:08:58.000" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""don't have that particular need.""" start="00:09:02.120" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""This is based on LuvLCh rather""" start="00:09:04.747" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""than LAB LCH, and that's another reason""" start="00:09:06.840" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""why I didn't use ct.el,""" start="00:09:08.789" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and it is highly experimental. But the code is""" start="00:09:11.050" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""available at Codeberg and GitHub just for your reference.""" start="00:09:14.120" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Let's see Hasliberg theme in action. This is the theme""" start="00:09:18.280" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that we were looking at for org-mode as well, but for the""" start="00:09:23.720" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""code, in this case Elisp. You can see that the colour is""" start="00:09:27.160" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""mostly white and blue with orange sprinkled across for""" start="00:09:32.200" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""string input. You can see some pink showing up as well.""" start="00:09:37.560" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Essentially, all the colour setup is done by shades, so most of""" start="00:09:41.560" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it is based on white or neutral, and there will be lighter and""" start="00:09:46.400" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""darker variants that can be set for the primary colour of blue.""" start="00:09:51.320" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""You can see the darker and brighter and lighter colours""" start="00:09:56.160" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""being used. With that shade setup, I only have to provide a""" start="00:09:59.960" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""few colours as the base colours. From there, I can define the""" start="00:10:05.280" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""shades for the theme setup, which leads to creating a more""" start="00:10:09.600" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""monotonic colour setup, where this one is a very monotonic,""" start="00:10:15.960" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""very subtle difference of white colours used for the base""" start="00:10:20.360" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""colours. I don't have to make too many changes to the colour""" start="00:10:25.060" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""setup. I just have to provide the base colours that are""" start="00:10:29.040" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""different. The same can be said for this orange, very orange""" start="00:10:32.080" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""colour theme, which is based on the base colours of""" start="00:10:36.400" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""orange-like colours and gives the shade of various""" start="00:10:39.360" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""different setup. This means that I can use Hasliberg""" start="00:10:43.640" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Theme Nature colour palette, and that gives me more of a green""" start="00:10:50.720" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""based colour where all the base colours are set up with a""" start="00:10:56.160" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""greenish colour setup.""" start="00:11:00.840" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]

<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Wrap up""" start="00:11:06.240" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""With that, I would like to wrap up with a few ideas when""" start="00:11:06.240" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""adjusting themes and working with colours. Maybe consider""" start="00:11:10.400" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""using CIELAB, CIELUV, or OKLab-based colour spaces that""" start="00:11:13.760" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""would give you different shades which are easier to work""" start="00:11:19.360" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""with for human perceptions. color.el and ct.el can be a""" start="00:11:24.720" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""great tool for making shades and working with colour spaces.""" start="00:11:29.200" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Hasliberg theme is yet another theme, highly personal""" start="00:11:32.560" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and experimental, but could be an inspiration for your""" start="00:11:36.240" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""theme journey. With that, why not sprinkle your Emacs with""" start="00:11:39.000" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""your favourite colours? Thank you.""" start="00:11:44.120" video="mainVideo-color" id="subtitle"]]

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Captioner: sachac

<div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="color-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1>

[[!template text="""... Org mode and kind of note taking. And that meant that it wasn't""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""too difficult to get started with. But when I started more on""" start="00:00:06.040" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the coding side, because I'm a software engineer, you know,""" start="00:00:10.680" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""do not know. Hasliberg, you might? Yeah, Hasliberg. And to""" start="00:06:45.680" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""all of this, the process, how you got to it eventually, it's""" start="00:10:13.200" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""also a part of sharing. And I think it's also amazing in its""" start="00:10:17.040" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""own way. Absolutely. Okay, I'm going to try to read the next""" start="00:10:19.640" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""question and then try to cough a little bit. So can we have...""" start="00:10:26.040" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Oh, sorry, Bala. Sorry. I was the one who asked the question.""" start="00:10:31.640" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I thought I could ask it live here rather than... Thank you.""" start="00:10:36.760" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'll go cough a little bit. So here I am. Thanks, Ryota, for""" start="00:10:40.280" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the nice talk. This is great. I loved it. Your attention to""" start="00:10:46.040" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""detail was awesome.""" start="00:10:50.520" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]

<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Can we have a dark as well as light theme variations made from your theme?""" start="00:10:51.520" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""So I was just looking at the code and I was""" start="00:10:51.520" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""wondering, do you have a dark and a light theme variation""" start="00:10:54.960" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which can be made from your theme? Or do you have to customize""" start="00:10:58.760" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it every time? That was my question. And thanks for that.""" start="00:11:02.600" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Thank you very much. I appreciate your feedback and""" start="00:11:06.200" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""questions. So to answer the question, the short answer is""" start="00:11:09.680" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that I do have both dark and light themes with some sorts of""" start="00:11:15.040" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""standard colors that I personally liked. And there were a""" start="00:11:18.440" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""few things that I showed in the demo. where I showed, I think,""" start="00:11:22.200" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""three different dark theme colors. So light theme is""" start="00:11:26.680" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""definitely something that I can do.""" start="00:11:30.000" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And the idea around Hasliberg theme""" start="00:11:31.560" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and just my theming in general was that""" start="00:11:33.760" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""when I feel like I want to work in dark theme and when I want to""" start="00:11:36.280" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""work in the standard way, I would just use the standard color.""" start="00:11:39.600" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""But when I feel like maybe it's just so cold that I want""" start="00:11:42.160" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to have a bit of a warm colors near me, I would use the orange""" start="00:11:44.920" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""theme, without changing too much of the kind of general""" start="00:11:48.520" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""feeling and experience. So that can be said for the light""" start="00:11:52.280" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""theme as well. So there is something and the kind of""" start="00:11:55.640" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""customization isn't that difficult to extend. So I do have""" start="00:11:58.960" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""both dark and light, but primarily I'm just looking at the""" start="00:12:04.840" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""dark theme as my main driver. But yeah, they are both""" start="00:12:09.360" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""available. Great. Thank you so much. I will definitely try""" start="00:12:12.840" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""your theme out. I'm definitely on the lookout for a nice,""" start="00:12:18.240" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""friendly theme. Thank you very much. As I said, this is a""" start="00:12:21.720" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""personal theme. I'm not sure if it really fits everyone's""" start="00:12:26.120" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""need, but it is one inspiration that I hope that can lead to""" start="00:12:31.280" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""another nice theming that could work for someone""" start="00:12:37.160" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""specifically for some use cases. I don't have to solve""" start="00:12:40.640" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""everyone's problem. Yeah, and I mean, it was sufficient to""" start="00:12:44.200" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""be inspirational to people. I mean, just Bala just""" start="00:12:48.720" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""mentioned it right now, but I'm sure plenty of people who""" start="00:12:50.720" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""watched live, but also people will be watching in the""" start="00:12:53.760" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""future, will have the interest to speak by what you've done.""" start="00:12:56.000" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So thank you again so much for this. Yep. All right, well, I""" start="00:12:58.600" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""don't see any further questions. So I suggest we move""" start="00:13:05.080" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""towards closure. Ryota, do you have any last words? No, I""" start="00:13:09.720" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""don't. So yeah, thank you very much for attending. And it was""" start="00:13:14.280" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""great fun putting this together. And I really didn't think""" start="00:13:17.080" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that I would be talking about my personal colors and""" start="00:13:20.520" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""personal favorites, like orange being my favorite color.""" start="00:13:24.760" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""This wouldn't be something that I would say out in any""" start="00:13:27.760" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""conference, to be honest. But it just came out to be. And""" start="00:13:30.120" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""happy that I had a chance. So thank you very much for giving me""" start="00:13:34.160" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the opportunity to talk. in this amazing conference and""" start="00:13:37.480" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""yeah I can't just wait to check out other talks which you know""" start="00:13:41.440" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I know that there isn't you know other talks that are""" start="00:13:44.320" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""happening right now I was actually wanted to to join them and""" start="00:13:46.920" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""check check that out so I will probably do that right now.""" start="00:13:50.200" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Well, sure. Well, I won't hold you any longer then. Thank""" start="00:13:52.760" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you. For me, it was just amazing to, you know, generally when""" start="00:13:56.840" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you ask someone what their favorite color, you know, they""" start="00:13:59.760" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""just tell you orange or blue or whatever. They don't go then""" start="00:14:01.640" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to chat about 20 minutes about their favorite color and how""" start="00:14:04.400" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""they tuned their entire editor to work exactly around their""" start="00:14:07.040" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""favorite colors. So it was inspiring. And I also want to try""" start="00:14:10.080" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it out, frankly, because my theme has been utterly bad for""" start="00:14:14.760" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the last five years and I need some change into my life. All""" start="00:14:18.000" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""right. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you very much,""" start="00:14:20.640" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""everyone. Cheers. Bye-bye.""" start="00:14:24.320" video="qanda-color" id="subtitle"]]

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