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# Transcript


Introduction

[[!template text="""Hi everyone, my name is Jeremy Friesen, pronouns are he/him,""" start="00:00:01.380" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and today I'll be talking about""" start="00:00:06.320" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""mentoring VS Coders as an Emacs-ian.""" start="00:00:07.880" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""A little bit of background, since 2015, I've mentored""" start="00:00:11.520" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""about 40 software developers,""" start="00:00:15.000" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""many of them in career-transitioning roles,""" start="00:00:16.560" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""oftentimes from boot camps.""" start="00:00:19.240" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I've also managed a couple of small software development teams.""" start="00:00:21.740" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

Framing approaches

[[!template text="""So I want to think about mentoring and the framing approaches.""" start="00:00:26.740" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We all don't know what we don't know.""" start="00:00:30.600" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So while mentoring, I like to be curious---asking questions,""" start="00:00:32.940" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I like to be visible,""" start="00:00:36.420" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and I also like to pair so that we can share.""" start="00:00:37.660" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

What are you looking to learn?

[[!template text="""When I start, I like to ask the following type of question:""" start="00:00:41.940" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""&quot;What have you been wanting to learn more of,""" start="00:00:45.300" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""get better at, and improve on?&quot;""" start="00:00:47.120" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Then I like to ask further questions to get an understanding""" start="00:00:49.360" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""of where they've been, where they're going,""" start="00:00:52.940" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and what they'd like to achieve.""" start="00:00:55.160" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Later I'll ask coaching questions, &quot;what's going well,&quot;""" start="00:00:57.280" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""&quot;where are you getting stuck,&quot;""" start="00:01:00.140" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and &quot;if you change one thing, what would it be?&quot;""" start="00:01:01.420" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

Make the work visible

[[!template text="""So like many people, I shifted to remote work in 2020,""" start="00:01:06.000" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and I've noticed a higher collaboration in remote work,""" start="00:01:09.840" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""when folks make their work visible.""" start="00:01:13.160" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So to do that I host office hours,""" start="00:01:15.920" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I try to attend other people's office hours,""" start="00:01:18.200" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and I'll open up a Slack huddle and just code by myself,""" start="00:01:20.680" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but let folks know, please hop in.""" start="00:01:23.440" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

Hop in and be curious

[[!template text="""I like to pay attention to other huddles that start.""" start="00:01:29.320" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""If they're going still for, like, 45 minutes or so,""" start="00:01:32.040" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'll hop in and say hello.""" start="00:01:35.240" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It's even odds that they're moving along just fine""" start="00:01:36.800" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""or that they're stuck.""" start="00:01:39.400" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So by hopping into the Slack huddle,""" start="00:01:40.800" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm helping with a common problem.""" start="00:01:43.280" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""How do you know when you're stuck?""" start="00:01:45.480" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""This is something that---as a manager---folks want to know,""" start="00:01:47.200" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""how can I get unstuck faster?""" start="00:01:50.640" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""As a human, it can be frustrating to be stuck for a long time,""" start="00:01:53.440" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but you also learn stuff""" start="00:01:57.120" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""when you're dealing with the hard things.""" start="00:01:58.600" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So you really need to balance that time,""" start="00:02:00.760" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and I find hopping in, just being a gentle presence,""" start="00:02:03.220" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""with yes... an agenda, but just to say hi,""" start="00:02:07.160" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""is crucial to help the team members move along.""" start="00:02:10.360" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

Pairing is for sharing

[[!template text="""Pairing is for sharing.""" start="00:02:15.880" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""When I pair, I like to let others drive.""" start="00:02:17.240" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""They're typing and working to resolve the problem.""" start="00:02:19.920" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm giving guidance, asking questions,""" start="00:02:22.240" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""maybe thinking through a refactor.""" start="00:02:24.600" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm also spending time observing how they interact with their editor.""" start="00:02:27.120" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""In the moment, I try to limit advice to, like, one concept.""" start="00:02:31.160" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""A lot of folks don't know that `Control-a`""" start="00:02:35.840" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""will take you to the beginning of line.""" start="00:02:37.800" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Just sharing that is huge sometimes.""" start="00:02:39.720" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Just gently do it and let it float there.""" start="00:02:42.680" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And assuming we have a regular mentoring session,""" start="00:02:46.920" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'll make sure to ask how they're feeling""" start="00:02:48.920" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""about using their tools afterwards.""" start="00:02:50.400" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I would love to get to the point where they ask,""" start="00:02:52.680" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""&quot;You saw me using my editor, what is something""" start="00:02:55.680" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I could learn?&quot;""" start="00:02:58.760" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm working on getting to that point.""" start="00:03:00.960" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

Editor functions

[[!template text="""While pairing, I like to pay attention""" start="00:03:03.860" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to how folks handle the following.""" start="00:03:05.200" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Where do they want to go?""" start="00:03:07.440" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""How do they get there?""" start="00:03:08.560" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Here they are, now what?""" start="00:03:10.760" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""How do they summarize?""" start="00:03:12.080" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I know what I can do in Emacs,""" start="00:03:13.600" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and I assume that VS Code can do something similar.""" start="00:03:15.240" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It's a matter of helping the mentees find those packages and plugins.""" start="00:03:17.400" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

Where do they want to go?

[[!template text="""Where to go?""" start="00:03:23.240" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Search within a project.""" start="00:03:24.240" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Everybody knows about this, but one thing""" start="00:03:25.760" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that has been really critical for me""" start="00:03:28.000" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""has been the arrival of `Orderless`.""" start="00:03:29.800" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""A little quick demonstration.""" start="00:03:31.960" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""If I look, and I have this &quot;chicken&quot; and I do &quot;spell&quot;,""" start="00:03:34.760" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I have found one, and they don't have""" start="00:03:40.720" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to be in the right order.""" start="00:03:42.201" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""In fact, I can go back, and &quot;spell&quot; is there.""" start="00:03:43.381" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Super easy, helpful, so I don't have to think about it, the order.""" start="00:03:48.040" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Search across projects.""" start="00:03:52.760" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Cross-repository searching is super-simple in Emacs,""" start="00:03:54.720" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and I've never seen anyone do it in VS Code.""" start="00:03:59.520" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm also trying to introduce folks to command-line tools""" start="00:04:02.740" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""such as RipGrep and SilverSearcher,""" start="00:04:05.640" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""not just to look in the project, but to go one directory up""" start="00:04:07.960" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and look across projects""" start="00:04:10.640" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""because sometimes when you're working on lots of different projects,""" start="00:04:12.000" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""there might be solutions or ideas that come from there.""" start="00:04:15.060" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Also notice that a lot of people use directory trees to navigate,""" start="00:04:19.960" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but I favor the fuzzy text.""" start="00:04:23.240" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So I can do something like `Command-t`""" start="00:04:25.600" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and start looking for things in there.""" start="00:04:27.760" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I just type the name of the file.""" start="00:04:31.280" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I use `consult-projectile`,""" start="00:04:33.760" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which has a lot of really cool functionality.""" start="00:04:35.320" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""The big one being I can type `r`, recent file.""" start="00:04:39.540" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I can type `p` and jump to a different project,""" start="00:04:43.080" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""so it's a quick navigation tool that I've not seen in VS Code.""" start="00:04:47.720" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

How do they get there?

[[!template text="""Next up is how do they get there?""" start="00:04:53.440" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I like to use LSP for the languages,""" start="00:04:56.520" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and I bound `M-.` to this""" start="00:04:58.960" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and jump back and forth to definitions.""" start="00:05:02.880" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I just showed `projectile` or `consult-projectile`""" start="00:05:05.520" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and its super-amazing multifunction finder.""" start="00:05:09.440" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Also another one that I am very avid about""" start="00:05:12.860" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""is the jump between definition and test.""" start="00:05:15.520" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I bind that to `Super-.`""" start="00:05:19.520" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and it helps me jump back and forth""" start="00:05:22.840" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""between my production code and my test code---""" start="00:05:25.840" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""especially in Ruby, there's an idiom for that.""" start="00:05:28.520" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""There is plugins in VS Code that does this correctly.""" start="00:05:32.120" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

Here they are, now what?

[[!template text="""Next up, now I'm here, what do I do?""" start="00:05:36.640" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Word completion, Emacs just knocks everything out of the park:""" start="00:05:39.400" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""`dabbrev`, `templates`, `hippie-expand`, `completion-at-point`.""" start="00:05:44.600" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Sometimes it just hurts to watch people type stuff""" start="00:05:48.200" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that they could quickly expand""" start="00:05:52.080" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""because there are words within the code.""" start="00:05:54.320" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Another one is auto-formatting.""" start="00:05:56.300" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Tree sitter...its arrival is great.""" start="00:05:57.920" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I assume this is going to get better.""" start="00:06:00.040" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I love highlighting a region, hitting `TAB`, and it's just formatted.""" start="00:06:01.480" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I've seen a lot of VS Coders... that doesn't work for them.""" start="00:06:04.920" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Don't know why, trying to get them to see it.""" start="00:06:08.761" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Multi-cursor [`multiple-cursors`] and `iedit`...""" start="00:06:11.080" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""took me a long time to explore `iedit`,""" start="00:06:12.901" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but the practice... but practicing was huge,""" start="00:06:14.800" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and it has transformed my approach to coding and typing.""" start="00:06:17.840" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Folks know about multi-cursor editing and editing-in-region""" start="00:06:21.480" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but make sure that they are aware of it.""" start="00:06:24.520" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It's important.""" start="00:06:27.920" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Next up is inline searching.""" start="00:06:29.720" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""My beloved Textmate... it was the first thing.""" start="00:06:32.620" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""In fact, it was why I chose not to use Emacs in 2005""" start="00:06:35.200" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and went with Textmate.""" start="00:06:38.440" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""This is something quite simple.""" start="00:06:41.680" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I can do `search` within here, and I can see &quot;introduced&quot;,""" start="00:06:43.760" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and it will show me the line.""" start="00:06:50.000" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""What I like about that is when I'm in code,""" start="00:06:52.240" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I can see the neighborhood of other things""" start="00:06:54.120" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and get a good idea of what's around.""" start="00:06:56.320" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Yes, there is `occur-mode` that can be super useful,""" start="00:06:58.360" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but I'm used to the Textmate in it.""" start="00:07:01.640" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I just love it.""" start="00:07:03.840" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

How do they summarize?

[[!template text="""Next up is how they summarize.""" start="00:07:06.640" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I've seen a lot of bootcamp graduates write commit messages""" start="00:07:08.680" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""by going to the command line.""" start="00:07:11.720" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""In my experience, commit messages written in the command line""" start="00:07:14.380" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""tend to be terse.""" start="00:07:17.040" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""They miss something.""" start="00:07:18.200" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So I try to really quickly shift folks to use their text editor,""" start="00:07:19.160" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""encourage them and""" start="00:07:23.480" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""teach them about `$GIT_EDITOR` and `$EDITOR` for the environment variables""" start="00:07:24.400" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""so they can make their commits from the command line.""" start="00:07:28.040" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And if not there, help them improve how they do VS Code.""" start="00:07:31.000" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""My little screed at the top:""" start="00:07:34.200" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the interface for VS Code's commit is trash.""" start="00:07:35.920" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It is why I stepped away from VS Code when I was exploring editors.""" start="00:07:38.960" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

General strategies

[[!template text="""Next up, my goal is to encourage folks to use editors for writing,""" start="00:07:44.440" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to think about owning that tool.""" start="00:07:48.440" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

Commit to one item of learning each week

[[!template text="""I have them try to learn one thing a week.""" start="00:07:52.060" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Maybe they aren't going to learn it,""" start="00:07:54.680" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but just not to overwhelm them""" start="00:07:55.920" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and find those high-value things.""" start="00:07:57.800" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Jump to spec, jump to code... super-valuable""" start="00:07:59.880" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""because I see folks doing it a lot during the day,""" start="00:08:03.720" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and it can really speed up the transition time""" start="00:08:06.520" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and keep the focus between the test...""" start="00:08:10.080" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""what you're trying to test and what you're trying to define,""" start="00:08:12.760" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which can get lost if you do the tree navigation.""" start="00:08:15.480" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

Practice within your knowledge domain

[[!template text="""Also I encourage people to practice their domain knowledge.""" start="00:08:18.960" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I learned a lot about programming by doing a bunch of things""" start="00:08:22.880" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""related to RPGs---role-playing games.""" start="00:08:27.160" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I did this previously in Ruby---dice rollers, note takers,""" start="00:08:30.020" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""random table lookups---and now I'm doing it in Emacs.""" start="00:08:33.120" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Knowing the domain helps me set aside the problem space""" start="00:08:35.880" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and then explore how I code""" start="00:08:40.520" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and how I can implement things differently.""" start="00:08:42.000" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

Note-taking

[[!template text="""Note-taking: pay attention to how folks create a fleeting note.""" start="00:08:47.120" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It can be excruciating as they try to figure out""" start="00:08:51.240" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""&quot;where am I going to put this?&quot;""" start="00:08:54.640" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""&quot;What file?&quot;""" start="00:08:55.600" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""&quot;Where does it go?&quot;""" start="00:08:56.160" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Emacs, we have the *scratch* buffer or anything else,""" start="00:08:57.660" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but ask them about their note-taking habits""" start="00:09:01.760" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

Help them navigate the proprietary software tar pits

[[!template text="""and help them navigate the proprietary software tar pits.""" start="00:09:07.120" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We know that anything that is venture-capital funded""" start="00:09:11.640" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""will eventually collapse.""" start="00:09:14.360" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We know that things that don't have a sustainable business model""" start="00:09:16.040" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""without surveillance capitalism""" start="00:09:20.920" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""is going to also have problems.""" start="00:09:22.400" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Encourage folks to think about how they're owning their notes.""" start="00:09:25.300" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Do they place true value on those,""" start="00:09:28.560" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""or are they things that are kind of ephemeral?""" start="00:09:30.640" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And then help them find the thing that makes sense for them.""" start="00:09:33.120" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

Help show the joy of holisting computering

[[!template text="""Put another way, I want people to think holistically""" start="00:09:38.520" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""about their generalized &quot;computering&quot; environment.""" start="00:09:43.240" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

Playing is for staying

[[!template text="""And I also think about the reason why""" start="00:09:47.740" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I've stayed a software developer for 25-years plus""" start="00:09:50.080" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""is because I approach all of this as play and storytelling.""" start="00:09:53.680" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Sometimes happy byproduct is that I ship features and documentation""" start="00:09:58.000" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and help people get stuff done.""" start="00:10:02.440" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Yet I don't tell folks to use Emacs.""" start="00:10:05.200" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Instead, I'm doing my best to show a myriad of reasons""" start="00:10:07.960" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for why folks should consider Emacs.""" start="00:10:10.720" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]

Conclusion

[[!template text="""In conclusion, ask questions.""" start="00:10:14.900" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Find a person who is a VS Coder and just say,""" start="00:10:18.740" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""&quot;hey, I learned something new.&quot;""" start="00:10:22.400" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We play this game all the time, me and my coworker Kirk.""" start="00:10:23.880" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I love it.""" start="00:10:26.720" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Another goal is showing the malleability of Emacs,""" start="00:10:27.700" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""how easy it is to extend.""" start="00:10:31.480" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And obviously there's so much more than what I've highlighted,""" start="00:10:34.400" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but then again, that's Emacs.""" start="00:10:36.680" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.""" start="00:10:38.720" video="mainVideo-mentor" id="subtitle"]]



Captioner: hannah

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