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[[!template text="""That's how I came into this.""" start="00:00:01.880" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Finally, the next big thing was starting""" start="00:00:10.120" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""2005, I went fully Linux and then for Mac OS,""" start="00:00:16.100" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and I switched to vanilla self-compiled""" start="00:00:19.540" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""versions of Emacs. So what do I want to show?""" start="00:00:25.279" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Couple of time ago in the development list""" start="00:00:30.540" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""there was a short exchange about the nil and""" start="00:00:34.540" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the flood button, flood button button styles,""" start="00:00:38.400" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""saying that it was equivalent and they are""" start="00:00:42.480" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""not. So instead of starting a Flame Wars,""" start="00:00:45.480" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I thought it was better to go and publicize""" start="00:00:49.220" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the goodies you get with Flood Button.""" start="00:00:54.520" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And this is what I'm going to be showing you""" start="00:00:57.260" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""practically. Why Flood Button?""" start="00:01:00.140" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""2005, more or less, I came across DOOM Emacs,""" start="00:01:06.020" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which was nice. And I,""" start="00:01:07.660" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""especially I liked the DOOM mode line,""" start="00:01:12.180" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which was, I think it is,""" start="00:01:13.740" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it is, and it was cool at that time.""" start="00:01:15.560" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I was using other themes and it was not that""" start="00:01:20.280" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""easy to adapt for these other themes and even""" start="00:01:23.760" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""less when you are in an environment with""" start="00:01:26.080" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""dynamic themes like mine because I tend to""" start="00:01:30.060" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""adapt the theme to the light conditions in my""" start="00:01:36.500" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""working place. So what I did at the end was""" start="00:01:40.520" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""coming up with a style for faces called flood""" start="00:01:44.540" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""button for boxes, called flood button as a""" start="00:01:49.020" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""simple way to get modern looking buttons and""" start="00:01:52.640" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""bars. So flood button is a face style for""" start="00:01:59.160" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""boxes within buttons that automatically sets""" start="00:02:02.380" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the border color to the background of the""" start="00:02:05.240" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""face, as opposed to nil,""" start="00:02:08.440" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which uses the foreground.""" start="00:02:10.440" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And this produces a very doom mode line-ish""" start="00:02:14.380" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""look and feel. And if you want to know where""" start="00:02:18.400" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I use it, basically for the mode line and I'm""" start="00:02:21.580" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""using tab line for a long time now.""" start="00:02:24.720" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So for the mode line and for tab line to""" start="00:02:28.480" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""organize my windows. And since an image is""" start="00:02:35.080" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""worth more than a thousand words,""" start="00:02:37.160" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm just going to stop this and start sharing""" start="00:02:40.860" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a small Emacs environment I have ready for""" start="00:02:44.120" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""this talk where I'm going to show you a flat""" start="00:02:47.020" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""button in real life. So if you hold with me,""" start="00:02:50.220" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm going to share a window.""" start="00:02:56.100" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It's going to be this 1.""" start="00:02:58.840" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Share and share. Here we are.""" start="00:03:01.386" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And share. Here we are.""" start="00:03:01.780" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So this is an Emacs which is recent,""" start="00:03:08.040" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""reasonably recent. Nothing especially it was""" start="00:03:13.460" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""compiled, it's Emacs 30.""" start="00:03:14.900" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And I think what I have here is something""" start="00:03:18.480" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that I compiled last weekend.""" start="00:03:19.900" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I was tempted to use something compiled this""" start="00:03:24.940" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""morning, but I saw a patch by Ellie regarding""" start="00:03:28.080" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""something in the faces and I didn't want to""" start="00:03:30.640" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""live a too risky life here,""" start="00:03:34.160" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""so I'm going to use this.""" start="00:03:36.220" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm not starting the ZMAC from the normal""" start="00:03:40.740" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Emacs directory. I have my own,""" start="00:03:44.160" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I have a special customization directory for""" start="00:03:49.440" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Emacs, and this is this 1.""" start="00:03:51.560" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And here what I have is basically an early""" start="00:03:57.760" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""init and an init. So the early init,""" start="00:04:01.880" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which is quite stupid as you see,""" start="00:04:03.680" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the only thing that it does is getting rid of""" start="00:04:07.800" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""most of the things that I'm not going to be""" start="00:04:10.640" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""using here. So I have no toolbar,""" start="00:04:12.740" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""no scroll bar, no tool tips.""" start="00:04:15.700" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I don't like global highlighting my line art,""" start="00:04:20.560" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""so I'm not using that.""" start="00:04:21.720" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm not using dialogues.""" start="00:04:22.800" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And to start up easier,""" start="00:04:25.560" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I don't inhibit, I don't use any startups""" start="00:04:29.440" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""screen. So just to make sure that everything""" start="00:04:34.540" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""is correct, that everything is as I want,""" start="00:04:41.360" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""just to show you my Emacs.""" start="00:04:44.840" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""As you see the Emacs 30,""" start="00:04:49.240" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which was built on the 26th of November which""" start="00:04:53.900" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""was not very long ago.""" start="00:04:55.520" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And now here comes the real magic.""" start="00:04:57.880" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""My init and my init file.""" start="00:05:00.540" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Maybe I go to my init file here.""" start="00:05:04.020" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""What I have is just a variable saying that I""" start="00:05:11.880" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""want an extra 8 pixels for my mode line.""" start="00:05:15.880" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And I have 2 functions.""" start="00:05:18.240" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""1 is modifying the mode line,""" start="00:05:23.800" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""both the active and the inactive,""" start="00:05:25.920" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""using the nil style with this line width of 8""" start="00:05:32.180" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""pixels and to compare with it what I have""" start="00:05:36.380" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""here is another function which will customize""" start="00:05:39.140" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the face for mode line and instead of using""" start="00:05:42.400" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""nil I'm using here flat button.""" start="00:05:44.960" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So this is my all the magic that I need.""" start="00:05:49.440" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm going to copy that and I'm going to go to""" start="00:05:53.240" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the scratch buffer which is always the best""" start="00:05:57.340" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""way of checking these things.""" start="00:05:58.780" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""When I normally work with themes,""" start="00:06:05.660" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""what I do is if I want to further modify the""" start="00:06:09.320" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""themes, I add an advice to load a theme after""" start="00:06:13.620" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the theme is loaded. In this first case,""" start="00:06:17.800" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""what I'm going to be doing is adding the nil""" start="00:06:21.280" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""sign so that you can see it.""" start="00:06:22.680" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And once this is done,""" start="00:06:30.240" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm going to load 1 of the Modo Soprandi""" start="00:06:33.000" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""themes, the tinted 1. Here we are.""" start="00:06:42.600" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And as you can see, when I loaded the theme,""" start="00:06:56.400" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""what I see here is my mode line with the""" start="00:07:01.880" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""x-ray pixels using since I'm using the nil""" start="00:07:05.320" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""style it's using the background color and""" start="00:07:09.520" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""this gives you this thick black line there""" start="00:07:12.620" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""furthermore if you have the inactive line you""" start="00:07:17.080" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""see that it is grayed out so it's always""" start="00:07:20.660" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""using the foreground color.""" start="00:07:22.800" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So now what I'm going to do is to load the""" start="00:07:33.300" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""models we have any which is the dark theme""" start="00:07:35.200" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and this case what you see is the love deal""" start="00:07:40.080" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the lines always using the foreground color""" start="00:07:43.220" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""use the Give you an extra 8 pixels of a white""" start="00:07:49.200" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""color here, which is not what we really want.""" start="00:07:53.000" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""At least not what I wanted to have.""" start="00:07:58.900" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to""" start="00:08:01.560" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""remove this advice and add the flat style""" start="00:08:08.940" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""thing, flat style function,""" start="00:08:12.800" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""so that we're going to do the same.""" start="00:08:15.480" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""But now when I load the themes I'm going to""" start="00:08:18.380" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""have a flat button style for the mode line""" start="00:08:20.760" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and you'll see the difference.""" start="00:08:21.880" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So if I now load Modo Software Andy theme,""" start="00:08:29.480" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""tint it, what I get here is as you see I get""" start="00:08:35.380" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a solid mode line which is a bit more which""" start="00:08:40.520" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""is wider than the normal mode line And if I""" start="00:08:49.240" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""go to the dark theme, I am going to see,""" start="00:08:53.140" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you're going to see that now the theme""" start="00:08:55.440" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""changes and I have a mode line which is,""" start="00:08:59.860" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""if not the doom mode line,""" start="00:09:02.700" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""quite close to the Doom mode line.""" start="00:09:08.260" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Where do I use this? Personally,""" start="00:09:11.200" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I use it for the mode line and for the tab""" start="00:09:15.280" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""line, as I've said. And it gives me this""" start="00:09:18.960" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""clean themes with thicker mode line and tab""" start="00:09:27.040" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""lines which at least in my personal feeling""" start="00:09:33.620" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""look quite modern. And this will be my""" start="00:09:40.160" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""demonstration. So I'm going to stop sharing""" start="00:09:43.820" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the screen and I'm going to try and see if""" start="00:09:46.820" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""there's anything on the on the chat.""" start="00:09:49.400" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And I just wanted to know if there are any""" start="00:09:57.040" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""questions. Thank you Pedro.""" start="00:10:01.240" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Yeah We are now into the Q&A portion of the""" start="00:10:05.000" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""talk. So if folks have questions,""" start="00:10:06.420" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""please post them on IRC or on the pad and""" start="00:10:10.080" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we'll take them up here.""" start="00:10:11.040" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Okay, I see a question here saying,""" start="00:10:25.400" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""do you plan to upstream the style into""" start="00:10:28.520" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""core-remix? It's part of core-remix since""" start="00:10:32.580" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Emacs 29, so you have it.""" start="00:10:35.800" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""How difficult to...I mean,""" start="00:10:49.060" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you already have the flat button style in""" start="00:10:54.320" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Core Remax. And you've seen that the main""" start="00:10:57.660" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""thing is, if you want to have a thing like""" start="00:11:00.740" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that, you just have to customize the face.""" start="00:11:06.660" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I don't think it's too difficult to do.""" start="00:11:10.920" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It's adding the style that you want.""" start="00:11:13.380" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So if you want to see it again,""" start="00:11:17.360" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm going to go and share the screen once""" start="00:11:20.860" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""again and show you the only thing that you""" start="00:11:23.980" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""really need to do. And control X 1,""" start="00:11:31.740" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""control X buffer to init.""" start="00:11:34.680" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So this is what you would have to do to get""" start="00:11:41.040" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""your mode line or mode line inactive with a""" start="00:11:48.880" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""flat button style. So what you do is you get""" start="00:11:52.360" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""your face like this, the face that you want""" start="00:11:56.120" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to modify. You say that you inherit from the""" start="00:11:59.640" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""original face and what you do is that you add""" start="00:12:02.920" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a box with the line width that you want and""" start="00:12:06.820" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the style plug button.""" start="00:12:08.040" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I don't think it's too difficult to do.""" start="00:12:10.900" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""How much work was involved in implementing""" start="00:12:23.100" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""this style? It is not 1 of the biggest""" start="00:12:27.360" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""patches you have in Emacs.""" start="00:12:28.940" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It was my first patch,""" start="00:12:32.260" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""so it was like 20 liners.""" start="00:12:34.500" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It's not too much. Yes,""" start="00:12:40.280" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""It says, ModeLine and ModeLineInactive.""" start="00:13:22.420" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm also using it for TabLine and""" start="00:13:27.400" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""TabLineInactive and all this kind of things.""" start="00:13:29.820" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Thanks.""" start="00:13:30.060" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Thanks. Any other questions?""" start="00:14:00.660" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Reactions? Thank you. Thank you.""" start="00:14:35.020" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Okay, I think we still have about 6 or 7 more""" start="00:15:04.160" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""please do feel free to post them on the pad.""" start="00:15:09.940" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Silence. Silence. Silence.""" start="00:15:30.060" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""university students? As such,""" start="00:16:04.700" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""when we do practical things,""" start="00:16:15.460" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and I do a lot, I tend to use Emacs for all""" start="00:16:21.100" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""Emacs that I share with my students.""" start="00:16:29.640" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""This would be like this.""" start="00:17:56.880" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""For that I'm going to use my regular Emacs.""" start="00:18:03.096" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""it up. Sure.""" start="00:18:09.220" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""not currently because it's just later,""" start="00:19:03.600" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it's a bit too dark. But this is for light""" start="00:19:06.420" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""with a flat button style.""" start="00:19:28.280" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Looks great, Thank you for sharing.""" start="00:19:35.640" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""You're welcome.""" start="00:19:37.200" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Okay, I think we have 2 or 3 more minutes.""" start="00:19:50.720" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
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[[!template text="""for Pedro, please post them in.""" start="00:19:55.480" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Okay. Okay.""" start="00:20:37.360" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Okay.""" start="00:20:54.260" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""No further questions. Yeah,""" start="00:21:34.540" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it seems we don't have any further questions.""" start="00:21:36.380" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Just another audience member also thanking""" start="00:21:39.100" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you on the chat. So with that,""" start="00:21:44.060" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'll say Thank you very much,""" start="00:21:45.320" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Pedro, for your great talk and for the Q&A,""" start="00:21:47.080" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for your work and for helping spreading the""" start="00:21:50.220" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""joy of Emacs. Okay, thanks.""" start="00:21:52.360" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Thank you. Bye-bye. It was a nice experience""" start="00:21:56.140" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""here. Very nice tool. Cheers.""" start="00:21:59.200" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Awesome. Take care. Bye.""" start="00:22:01.640" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Bye. Bye.""" start="00:22:02.720" video="mainVideo-flat" id="subtitle"]]
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