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In this talk, Vidianos Giannitsis shares how he uses Org Roam, org-noter, and zetteldesk.el to manage his literature notes and write articles. Afterwards, he will handle questions over BigBlueButton.
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Format: 17-min talk followed by live Q&A (done)
Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2022-science>
Discuss on IRC: [#emacsconf-gen](https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-gen)
Status: TO_INDEX_QA
<div>Times in different timezones:</div><div class="times" start="2022-12-03T15:45:00Z" end="2022-12-03T16:05:00Z"><div class="conf-time">Saturday, Dec 3 2022, ~10:45 AM - 11:05 AM EST (US/Eastern)</div><div class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Saturday, Dec 3 2022, ~9:45 AM - 10:05 AM CST (US/Central)<br />Saturday, Dec 3 2022, ~8:45 AM - 9:05 AM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Saturday, Dec 3 2022, ~7:45 AM - 8:05 AM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Saturday, Dec 3 2022, ~3:45 PM - 4:05 PM UTC <br />Saturday, Dec 3 2022, ~4:45 PM - 5:05 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Saturday, Dec 3 2022, ~5:45 PM - 6:05 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Saturday, Dec 3 2022, ~9:15 PM - 9:35 PM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Saturday, Dec 3 2022, ~11:45 PM - 12:05 AM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~12:45 AM - 1:05 AM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><a href="/2022/watch/gen/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></div>
# Talk
<div class="vid"><video controls preload="none" id="science-mainVideo"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-science--writing-and-organizing-literature-notes-for-scientific-writing--vidianos--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-science--writing-and-organizing-literature-notes-for-scientific-writing--vidianos--main.vtt" default />"""<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-science--writing-and-organizing-literature-notes-for-scientific-writing--vidianos--main--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="science-mainVideo" data="""
00:00.000 My second brain
00:28.320 Contents of the talk
01:40.560 Bibliography management
02:35.200 Creating literature notes: ivy-bibtex-edit-notes
03:04.960 org-roam reference template
04:40.160 Demo
05:40.840 Annotating with org-noter
06:44.240 Annotating in English
07:02.120 Afterthoughts on an article
07:30.200 Adding a note
08:21.480 Creating permanent notes from reference material
09:01.680 The organization problem
09:21.520 zetteldesk.el
10:43.600 The zetteldesk-desktop
11:45.040 Filtering with ivy-bibtex
12:09.840 Inserting literature
13:46.200 Composing the final article
15:19.160 Thanks
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# Q&A
<div class="vid"><video controls preload="none" id="science-qanda"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-science--writing-and-organizing-literature-notes-for-scientific-writing--vidianos--answers.webm" />${captions}<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-science--writing-and-organizing-literature-notes-for-scientific-writing--vidianos--answers--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="science-qanda" data="""
00:00.000 Introduction
00:24.000 Q1 - Do you use flipping notes and do you keep them in org-roam?
03:21.000 Q2 - Does it work only for PDFs or does it work for more formats?
06:00.000 Q3 - Why use OrgNoter in place of Zotero PDF Reader?
07:04.000 Q4 - Thoughts on the future of Zettelkasten
08:16.000 Q4.5 - Collaborative Zettelkasten notes
12:03.000 Q5 - How do you find a way to get a nice overview of multiple notes to rearrange them?
15:26.000 Q6 - Can we use Zettelkasten for coding too?
18:29.000 Q7 - Is Zetteldesk available in Melpa? - Yes
19:33.000 Conclusion - thoughts about Zettelkasten
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