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For context, we will first play Richard Stallman's 2014 TEDx talk called "Free Software, Free Society." The TEDx talk is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution - No Derivative Works 3.0 license. Afterwards, Richard Stallman will discuss what he believes will be good ways to improve Emacs. The EmacsConf talk will be under the Creative Commons Attribution - ShareAlike license. There will be a moderated Q&A, so please put your questions in the Etherpad or IRC.
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Status: TO_CAPTION_QA
<div>Times in different timezones:</div><div class="times" start="2022-12-04T16:15:00Z" end="2022-12-04T16:35:00Z"><div class="conf-time">Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~11:15 AM - 11:35 AM EST (US/Eastern)</div><div class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~10:15 AM - 10:35 AM CST (US/Central)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~9:15 AM - 9:35 AM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~8:15 AM - 8:35 AM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~4:15 PM - 4:35 PM UTC <br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~5:15 PM - 5:35 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~6:15 PM - 6:35 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~9:45 PM - 10:05 PM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Monday, Dec 5 2022, ~12:15 AM - 12:35 AM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Monday, Dec 5 2022, ~1:15 AM - 1:35 AM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><a href="/2022/watch/dev/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></div>
# Talk
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00:00.000 GNU Emacs and its purpose
02:33.640 Lisp as the extension language
03:46.280 JavaScript versus freedom
06:14.640 Updating "An Introduction to Emacs Lisp Programming"
07:23.407 More memorable package names
08:31.807 Simplifying the command interface
10:23.620 Modularity
11:22.220 Editing formatted text
12:55.460 Not the equivalent of a modern web browser
15:31.300 Getting involved
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# Q&A
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00:56.800 Pragmatically, how are people that buy into these ideals, and especially those that build the software, meant to live/thrive, short of renouncing many of the luxuries of modern life, as many have been struggling to reconcile both, it appears? Wouldn't it be smarter and more productive longer-term to solve that problem too?
03:24.600 I have been admiring your work for free software for many years now. I am a bit concerned about what will happen to the GNU project when you retire (not soon, I hope!!). Have you planned how to manage the GNU project in the long run?
04:52.520 In response to your aversion to JavaScript support in Emacs: In the same way that to revolt against the nonfree spirit in software development one has to develop software, and that to fight nonfree compilers one has to write a free compiler - can you fairly consider rejection of JavaScript as a tool conducive to improving the state of free JavaScript? A server can send back any MIME type to execute on your machine, JS was just the most convenient.
07:27.000 With all the recent additions and optimizations to Emacs Lisp (lexical scoping, native compilation etc.) would you deem Emacs Lisp suitable for general purpose programming outside Emacs (i.e. scripting, running web servers). If not, why?
08:44.760 Could you give a few examples of the medium-sized jobs necessary for WYSIWYG-editor support in Emacs?
09:33.480 Should GNU (or someone else) define a safe-subset of HTML/CSS/JS to make web browsers simpler and safer (e.g. by preventing JS from contacting servers)?
10:57.440 How can we ensure the continuity of an understanding of the more arcane parts of the [Emacs] source code, and increase their evolvability, notably with regards to display, single-threading limitations, etc.?
13:50.480 Are there any problems or disadvantages using the GNU AGPL for non-networked software like Emacs packages?
14:50.280 Is there a list of Emacs issues which can be solved by programmers with different levels? For example my level is A, I know basic elisp and C. How can I help?
16:36.840 What roadblocks kept some of the other efforts from being used with Emacs?
17:36.240 What do you use emacs for beyond editing?
17:55.120 Song about e-mail
18:49.556 Emacs is used by a small population relative to the population that could benefit from it. Do you have any thoughts on how to expand the user base more broadly even among software developers?
20:05.760 Would a namespace system similar to Common Lisp packages but without :USE work in Emacs? Modern CL implementations have package local nicknames to create package local prefixes.
22:42.440 With Emacs 29 adding more (awesome) features into vanilla Emacs, how should we ensure vanilla Emacs does not get bloated with many similar features? (example: ido/icomplete, vc/magit)
24:26.920 Do you recommend reaching out in [high] schools for volunteers instead of universities because they are more prone to value the objectives of freedom?
25:35.040 What was the thought process behind making Emacs Lisp dynamically scoped when you first created it? What advantages did it provide over the alternative?
27:18.766 It's hard to pick up Emacs if you do not speak English. Can something be done to address that?
29:28.840 Do you use Org or Org mode, and if so, to what extent?
33:54.480 What do you have in mind for more modular Emacs development?
35:19.040 Reframing the school question
36:18.640 In light of that critique of JavaScript not being about the language per se but rather the "culture of blindly getting and running packages/libraries", what's so different with what's currently done by the vast majority of Emacs/Elisp users to just install packages blindly?
37:48.800 Do you still intend to merge your patch to the "shorthands" feature to the master branch?
38:54.880 Do you think the freedom e.g., we have in Emacs, becomes a hurdle for some people to pursue more important things in the world? I used to do a lot of Emacs programming, but I recently try to stay away from tinkering on Emacs.
40:27.920 Question about software freedom: how does it apply to software that are art/media experiences, like videogames? In your view, Is the creator of a videogame obliged to release it under a free license?
43:35.915 Have you seen Haketilo? It seems similar to LibreJS.
45:45.568 Do you have any suggestions for helping propective contributers streamline
the copyright assignment needed to contribute to Emacs (and other FSF software
projects)?
47:09.800 Can complexity induced by company-funded free/libre code become a problem, when the company pulls out, leaving the code potentially unmaintainable?
49:31.280 What do you think of Hyperbole or EEV instead of org mode, or other things for the stuff that org mode does "second brain / knowledge base", or GTD 'getting things done' etc... among other things in Emacs or other Emacs packages
52:06.251 Are there plans to bring modal editing (eg. evil-mode, viper) to Emacs core and did your opinion on modal editing change over the years?
53:03.000 What is your opinion on the current state of large machine
learning/AI models?
54:14.302 I thought it was a virtue to separate the content from the style orappearance of information. Part of being free is also to view information in the format that you want. Does your WYSIWYG idea erode this virtue and lead to more thinking -- perhaps undue thinking about style over substance?
55:38.840 Do you ever dabble in retro-computing, e.g. logging into TOPS10/20 systems SDF, etc?
56:38.196 Do you know Gemini?
58:04.480 stallmansupport.org
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