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# Transcript

[[!template new="1" text="""Hey everyone, I'm Michael,""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and I'm going to be talking about""" start="00:00:02.280" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Org mode and the IndieWeb.""" start="00:00:03.640" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I am located in the San Francisco Bay Area,""" start="00:00:06.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""where I'm a developer as well as""" start="00:00:08.840" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a longtime Emacs user.""" start="00:00:10.321" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""So, I maintain a personal website using Org mode.""" start="00:00:14.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""If you're watching this talk,""" start="00:00:17.560" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm going to guess that you probably are too.""" start="00:00:19.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""For anybody who isn't,""" start="00:00:21.560" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""let me explain exactly what I mean by that.""" start="00:00:24.880" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I have a static website. I author the pages""" start="00:00:28.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""in Org mode's markup language,""" start="00:00:32.280" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""otherwise known as Orgdown.""" start="00:00:34.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I use the Org export facility""" start="00:00:36.280" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to transcode that markup to HTML.""" start="00:00:38.440" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And then I just use rsync to push""" start="00:00:43.760" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the resulting HTML pages up to a VPS.""" start="00:00:47.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I like the workflow.""" start="00:00:51.760" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It's familiar to me as a coder.""" start="00:00:52.854" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I get to use familiar tools like Git and Make.""" start="00:00:57.840" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Publishing and then pushing the site""" start="00:01:03.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to a local test server is just `make`.""" start="00:01:06.120" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Pushing it to the live site is just `make prod`.""" start="00:01:09.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""That said, certain problems made themselves apparent""" start="00:01:13.880" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""with this arrangement pretty quickly.""" start="00:01:18.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Commenting was one. It's very difficult""" start="00:01:22.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to support commenting on a static website.""" start="00:01:25.840" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I've got no database.""" start="00:01:28.200" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I have no real server, and so on.""" start="00:01:29.501" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Yes, of course, there is Disqus""" start="00:01:34.120" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and other third party services""" start="00:01:35.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that will do this for you,""" start="00:01:37.868" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but I was uncomfortable outsourcing that job.""" start="00:01:38.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And it was more than just comments.""" start="00:01:43.880" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""There was a general sense of isolation.""" start="00:01:45.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""There's no connection to places""" start="00:01:48.360" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""like Reddit, or Mastodon, or Twitter,""" start="00:01:50.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you know, where all the people are.""" start="00:01:53.360" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I guess you can post, then Tweet a link to it.""" start="00:01:56.560" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""But suppose somebody responds to your Tweet.""" start="00:01:59.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Now you've got a conversation going on on Twitter""" start="00:02:01.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that you're a visitor, and""" start="00:02:05.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that a non-Twitter-using visitor to your site""" start="00:02:07.640" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""would be completely disconnected from.""" start="00:02:09.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I am seeing people using Reddit effectively""" start="00:02:15.400" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""as the comment section for their sites.""" start="00:02:19.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""But unless you've got an audience, you know,""" start="00:02:22.640" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the size of Derek's or Amos's,""" start="00:02:24.760" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I don't think that's really feasible either.""" start="00:02:27.720" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""Now, after casting about for some time,""" start="00:02:32.040" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I stumbled upon something called the IndieWeb.""" start="00:02:34.200" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""In their own words, the IndieWeb is""" start="00:02:37.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a community of independent and personal websites""" start="00:02:39.280" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""connected by simple standards based on""" start="00:02:41.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the principles of owning your domain""" start="00:02:44.401" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and using it as your primary identity,""" start="00:02:46.720" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""publishing on your own site,""" start="00:02:48.480" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and optionally syndicating elsewhere,""" start="00:02:50.360" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and owning your data.""" start="00:02:52.418" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I would describe it as a collection of individuals""" start="00:02:54.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""who've chosen to own their own platforms,""" start="00:02:57.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""alongside a loosely specked set of standards""" start="00:03:01.360" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that tie those sites together.""" start="00:03:05.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And it's really those standards""" start="00:03:07.480" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that make the IndieWeb""" start="00:03:09.218" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""more than just a call for everybody""" start="00:03:10.640" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to go back to the arts""" start="00:03:13.120" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and blog on on their own sites.""" start="00:03:14.735" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""Now, this presentation isn't going to""" start="00:03:17.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""focus on the IndieWeb as such.""" start="00:03:19.640" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It's more about using Org mode""" start="00:03:21.480" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to put your site on the IndieWeb.""" start="00:03:23.360" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm a little limited by time here,""" start="00:03:24.640" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""so I'm going to focus on""" start="00:03:28.040" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""just one of those protocols,""" start="00:03:30.351" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and that's Webmentions.""" start="00:03:32.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, what's a Webmention?""" start="00:03:33.400" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Let's begin with the inveterate Alice,""" start="00:03:35.720" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""who has a website""" start="00:03:38.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and has posted content to that site.""" start="00:03:39.468" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Her old friend Bob comes along,""" start="00:03:42.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""notices that content""" start="00:03:46.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and wishes to say something about it.""" start="00:03:47.440" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""He posts to his site""" start="00:03:49.360" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and his publication software will,""" start="00:03:51.468" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""if it supports Webmentions,""" start="00:03:54.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""will notice that he's mentioned Alice's post.""" start="00:03:57.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""At that point, his publication software""" start="00:04:00.160" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""reaches out to Alice's site,""" start="00:04:04.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""asks for the mentioned document,""" start="00:04:07.240" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and will examine it to see""" start="00:04:11.040" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""if Alice advertises an endpoint at her site""" start="00:04:12.560" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""capable of receiving Webmentions.""" start="00:04:15.600" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""In this case, it does.""" start="00:04:18.160" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, Bob's publishing software does it.""" start="00:04:19.600" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""At the end of the day,""" start="00:04:23.480" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a Webmention is really just""" start="00:04:24.468" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""an HTTP post request with two parameters,""" start="00:04:26.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a source and a target.""" start="00:04:30.360" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""On receipt, Alice's server will""" start="00:04:33.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""reach out to Bob's site,""" start="00:04:36.818" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""request the document that contains the mention,""" start="00:04:39.400" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and validate it, decide whether or not""" start="00:04:43.280" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""she wants to accept the Webmention.""" start="00:04:45.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""In this case, it's legit, it's accepted,""" start="00:04:48.120" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and Alice chooses to make a note,""" start="00:04:50.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to update her content,""" start="00:04:54.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to make a note of the fact""" start="00:04:56.760" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that it was mentioned by Bob.""" start="00:04:58.720" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""Now a couple of things to note here.""" start="00:05:00.600" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""The first is that this is effectively""" start="00:05:01.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""decentralized commenting.""" start="00:05:03.480" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Both parties own their content,""" start="00:05:04.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and there's no third party involved,""" start="00:05:07.440" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""trusted or otherwise.""" start="00:05:09.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Now at this point, you might object that, well,""" start="00:05:13.640" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""as the owner of a statically generated site,""" start="00:05:16.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I have essentially none of the infrastructure""" start="00:05:18.720" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I need to implement this.""" start="00:05:21.600" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I have no server above and beyond Apache.""" start="00:05:22.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I can't really…, I have no database.""" start="00:05:27.120" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I guess you could send Webmentions with curl,""" start="00:05:30.600" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but now to do Webmention endpoint discovery,""" start="00:05:33.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you're going to be parsing arbitrary HTML.""" start="00:05:37.040" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It's a lot of work.""" start="00:05:39.640" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""That's okay. There are sites out there""" start="00:05:41.120" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that offer Webmentions as a service.""" start="00:05:45.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, let's take a look at how that goes.""" start="00:05:48.840" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We return to our original example.""" start="00:05:51.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Alice continues to advertise an endpoint""" start="00:05:54.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""capable of receiving Webmentions,""" start="00:05:57.840" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but it's no longer on her site.""" start="00:06:00.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It's at webmention.io.""" start="00:06:01.840" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Bob is essentially in the same position,""" start="00:06:03.840" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but he now has in his world""" start="00:06:08.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a third party site called Telegraph.""" start="00:06:09.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""When Bob wants to publish,""" start="00:06:13.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""he no longer needs to go through all the work""" start="00:06:16.040" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""of sending Webmention,""" start="00:06:19.760" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and of carrying out Webmention endpoint discovery.""" start="00:06:21.760" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""He sends one API request to Telegraph,""" start="00:06:25.280" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""effectively saying, please send a Webmention for me.""" start="00:06:27.880" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Asynchronously, telegraph.io is going to""" start="00:06:31.120" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""retrieve Alice's post,""" start="00:06:36.640" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""do Webmention endpoint discovery,""" start="00:06:38.718" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and send the Webmention on Bob's behalf.""" start="00:06:41.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Except this time he's sending it to webmention.io.""" start="00:06:45.400" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Now, at some arbitrary point in the future,""" start="00:06:48.280" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Alice can ask webmention.io,""" start="00:06:53.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""&quot;Hey, do I have any new Webmentions?&quot;""" start="00:06:55.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And if she does, she may choose""" start="00:06:57.720" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to update her content and publish.""" start="00:07:00.480" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""Okay, so let's code this up.""" start="00:07:04.160" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Now, I'm recording this talk""" start="00:07:07.240" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""about a month ahead of time""" start="00:07:09.120" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and I haven't been able to put together""" start="00:07:10.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a little demo project.""" start="00:07:12.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Hopefully, I can hack something together""" start="00:07:13.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""before this video streams.""" start="00:07:16.600" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""But in the meantime,""" start="00:07:18.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'd like to imagine a little test site.""" start="00:07:20.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It has a single page,""" start="00:07:22.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""maybe we'll call it index.org,""" start="00:07:25.218" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and we're going to publish it.""" start="00:07:28.880" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We're going to export it to""" start="00:07:30.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a subdirectory of our project directory,""" start="00:07:32.600" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""simply called www.""" start="00:07:35.840" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, the entry point to the Org export system""" start="00:07:39.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""is the function org-publish,""" start="00:07:44.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""whose docstring helpfully says,""" start="00:07:46.640" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it publishes all projects.""" start="00:07:49.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""The set of all projects is defined by""" start="00:07:52.240" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the variable `org-publish-project-alist`,""" start="00:07:56.760" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which is a very flexible association list""" start="00:07:59.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that lets you define""" start="00:08:02.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""what files are in your project,""" start="00:08:03.868" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""how you wish to export them,""" start="00:08:05.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""where they're going to go, etc, etc, etc.""" start="00:08:07.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So great. This is actually pretty straightforward.""" start="00:08:10.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We just give ourselves a little Elisp file""" start="00:08:13.840" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and a single function.""" start="00:08:15.880" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'll call it publish,""" start="00:08:17.040" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and all it will do is define""" start="00:08:18.640" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""`org-publish-project-alist`""" start="00:08:22.360" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and invoke `org-publish-all`.""" start="00:08:25.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""At that point, exporting is a one-liner.""" start="00:08:26.840" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We just invoke Emacs, load up our site.el file,""" start="00:08:31.880" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and invoke the publish function.""" start="00:08:35.560" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And if we want to publish to the live server,""" start="00:08:37.280" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that's just another one-liner of ours.""" start="00:08:43.668" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, that's the publication framework.""" start="00:08:45.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""Now, let's take a look at sending Webmentions.""" start="00:08:48.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""The idea is that we're going to""" start="00:08:51.280" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""get our fingers into the publication process.""" start="00:08:54.400" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Note when we see a Webmention in""" start="00:08:57.240" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the process of exporting our Orgdown,""" start="00:09:01.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and write it out to disk for sending later on.""" start="00:09:04.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Now, I didn't want to send a Webmention""" start="00:09:07.840" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for every single link in the post.""" start="00:09:11.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I wanted this to be an intentional choice.""" start="00:09:13.040" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And it turns out there are""" start="00:09:14.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""different sorts of Webmentions""" start="00:09:16.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you can make on a page.""" start="00:09:19.120" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""For instance, if you add""" start="00:09:20.160" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the CSS class u-in-reply-to to your link,""" start="00:09:22.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the recipient will""" start="00:09:26.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""interpret this Webmention as a reply.""" start="00:09:28.635" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""There are similar CSS classes""" start="00:09:30.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for likes, reposts, and generalized mentions.""" start="00:09:33.440" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""When the recipient gets your Webmention,""" start="00:09:37.240" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""if they want to know who's talking to them,""" start="00:09:42.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""they need to parse your page""" start="00:09:45.640" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and look for DOM elements with certain CSS classes""" start="00:09:47.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""defined by the protocol as well.""" start="00:09:51.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""I'm a visual thinker,""" start="00:09:54.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""so I kind of drew out the process of publication,""" start="00:09:57.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and exactly where we're going to""" start="00:10:00.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""get our fingers into this.""" start="00:10:03.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, this is me invoking make,""" start="00:10:05.160" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which of course fires up Emacs.""" start="00:10:07.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Just as before, my publish function will define""" start="00:10:09.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""`org-publish-project-alist` with one difference.""" start="00:10:14.440" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""There is an attribute,""" start="00:10:17.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a property in the list called `publishing-function`.""" start="00:10:21.040" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We're going to need to customize that.""" start="00:10:23.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""As usual, we then call…,""" start="00:10:26.280" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we kick off the process by calling `org-publish-all`.""" start="00:10:28.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""org-publish-all will invoke""" start="00:10:31.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""your publishing function""" start="00:10:36.468" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for each page, and it will hand to""" start="00:10:37.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""your publishing function for each page.""" start="00:10:40.560" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""The name of the file you're publishing,""" start="00:10:42.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""where it's going, and a parameter entitled plist.""" start="00:10:45.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""This is not super well documented.""" start="00:10:50.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""There are points in the docs""" start="00:10:53.200" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that refer to this as a communication channel.""" start="00:10:55.280" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""What I discovered by simply reading the code was that""" start="00:10:57.440" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it's a property list that is initialized""" start="00:11:01.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for each invocation of your publication function.""" start="00:11:04.560" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""The initial properties are""" start="00:11:09.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""inherited from your project,""" start="00:11:13.560" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but you are free to add properties as you go""" start="00:11:16.200" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to communicate between different portions""" start="00:11:20.801" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""of the publication process.""" start="00:11:23.880" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""My publication function really does one thing,""" start="00:11:25.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and that's simply swap out the HTML template""" start="00:11:30.400" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that's passed to `org-publish-to`.""" start="00:11:34.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""Now, in order to take note of""" start="00:11:36.840" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""each Webmention that I send,""" start="00:11:43.696" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I took advantage of another""" start="00:11:45.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Org mode extension point""" start="00:11:47.585" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""called defining new link types.""" start="00:11:49.880" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Here you can see""" start="00:11:52.720" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I've created a new link type called reply.""" start="00:11:54.851" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""One of the attributes that you can attach to this""" start="00:11:58.560" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""is the function that is used to export your link.""" start="00:12:01.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I've elided the code for""" start="00:12:06.160" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""mentions, likes, and reposts.""" start="00:12:08.562" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""If you look at my export function,""" start="00:12:10.720" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you can see that it ultimately yields""" start="00:12:13.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the appropriate HTML for this link.""" start="00:12:16.280" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Before that, it calls a little helper function""" start="00:12:19.440" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that will pull out the actual""" start="00:12:22.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""target URL of the link""" start="00:12:24.518" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and shove it into this communication channel""" start="00:12:26.160" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""under the property name `sp1ff/mentions`.""" start="00:12:28.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""So, `org-publish-to` is really the workhorse""" start="00:12:31.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""of the publication process.""" start="00:12:37.360" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""The first thing it's going to do is""" start="00:12:40.240" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""transcode from the parsed Orgdown,""" start="00:12:42.120" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which is an intermediate representation""" start="00:12:47.400" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""known as Org elements, to HTML.""" start="00:12:50.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""In particular, for every one of my new links""" start="00:12:53.200" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that I'm using to mark Webmentions,""" start="00:12:57.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it's going to invoke my little export function.""" start="00:13:00.440" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And so as we work our way through the post,""" start="00:13:04.040" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'm going to accumulate all the Webmentions""" start="00:13:06.600" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that I've made in the property list.""" start="00:13:09.040" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""The second step is to actually render""" start="00:13:10.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the final HTML document,""" start="00:13:14.360" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and that's where my specialized template comes in.""" start="00:13:16.560" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""All I do there is, use it to get""" start="00:13:18.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""my authorship information into the page.""" start="00:13:21.480" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And then the last step is called finalization.""" start="00:13:24.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""At this point, we have the rendered HTML document,""" start="00:13:29.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and Org mode gives you an extension point here,""" start="00:13:32.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""where you can do arbitrary post-processing""" start="00:13:35.720" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""on that document.""" start="00:13:38.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I arguably abuse it to retrieve""" start="00:13:39.200" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""all the Webmentions I've made""" start="00:13:42.160" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""out of the communication channel""" start="00:13:44.440" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and write them to disk.""" start="00:13:46.280" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""At this point, when we type make,""" start="00:13:47.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we wind up with the rendered HTML""" start="00:13:54.840" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""for our Orgdown document,""" start="00:13:59.160" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""along with a little text file""" start="00:14:01.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""in which we've recorded all the Webmentions""" start="00:14:03.880" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that need to be sent.""" start="00:14:06.040" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""The next step is to send said Webmentions.""" start="00:14:07.349" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""This is surprisingly easy in Emacs Lisp.""" start="00:14:11.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""This is my actual implementation.""" start="00:14:15.560" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I use the request.el package to talk to Telegraph.""" start="00:14:17.360" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And at this point, we really don't need to""" start="00:14:22.360" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""add a lot to our little site Elisp file.""" start="00:14:26.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I sketched out a `send-webmentions` implementation""" start="00:14:30.640" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that just goes through in a loop""" start="00:14:34.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and calls my send-webmention function.""" start="00:14:36.160" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And now publication becomes a two-step process.""" start="00:14:39.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""First, the org-publish, then sending Webmentions.""" start="00:14:42.640" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""Okay, so I realize this has been""" start="00:14:46.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a bit of a whirlwind.""" start="00:14:51.418" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, where are we now?""" start="00:14:52.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We have a sample site that we can publish""" start="00:14:55.240" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and have sent Webmentions.""" start="00:15:00.600" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And we've done it with just Emacs, Org mode,""" start="00:15:02.400" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a little Lisp, and a make file.""" start="00:15:05.480" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""If you'd like to see more,""" start="00:15:07.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I've put my library up on GitHub.""" start="00:15:09.080" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It has logic for both""" start="00:15:11.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""sending and receiving Webmentions""" start="00:15:13.754" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""as well as something""" start="00:15:15.560" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that on the IndieWeb is called POSSE,""" start="00:15:16.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which is an acronym standing for""" start="00:15:19.120" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere.""" start="00:15:22.400" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""What that means is that""" start="00:15:25.400" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""you turn the publication step""" start="00:15:27.818" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""from merely publishing new content to your site""" start="00:15:31.400" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to also replicating it to places""" start="00:15:35.400" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""like Twitter and Facebook and so forth.""" start="00:15:36.920" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And also when people like, comment,""" start="00:15:39.160" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and retweet your content,""" start="00:15:44.120" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that gets fed back to your site,""" start="00:15:45.960" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""where you can display it as comments.""" start="00:15:47.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""In terms of the future,""" start="00:15:51.400" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I feel like I'm at a decision point.""" start="00:15:52.600" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Org mode is admirably flexible,""" start="00:15:54.520" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and I'm confident that I can continue to""" start="00:15:58.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""add support for IndieWeb protocols.""" start="00:16:00.320" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""On the other hand, it is so flexible""" start="00:16:02.560" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that the process of figuring out""" start="00:16:05.440" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which extension points to use in any situation""" start="00:16:07.880" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""is very challenging.""" start="00:16:10.680" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""When I started down this path,""" start="00:16:12.000" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""my mindset was keep it simple""" start="00:16:14.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and let's just see how far I could get with Org mode.""" start="00:16:17.840" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And I feel like I might be bumping up""" start="00:16:20.400" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""against the limitations of that approach now.""" start="00:16:23.160" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Thank you very much.""" start="00:16:25.800" video="mainVideo-indieweb" id="subtitle"]]



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