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In this talk, Howard Abrams shows how eshell combines the best of Emacs Lisp and shells. Afterwards, he will handle questions via BigBlueButton.


The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sun 2022-12-04. Solid lines show talks with Q&A via BigBlueButton. Dashed lines show talks with Q&A via IRC or Etherpad.<div class="schedule-in-context schedule-svg-container" data-slug="eshell">
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[[!toc  ]]
Format: 15-min talk followed by live Q&A (done)  
Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2022-eshell>  
Discuss on IRC: [#emacsconf-dev](https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-dev)  
Status: TO_INDEX_QA  
<div>Times in different timezones:</div><div class="times" start="2022-12-04T18:40:00Z" end="2022-12-04T18:55:00Z"><div class="conf-time">Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~1:40 PM - 1:55 PM EST (US/Eastern)</div><div class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~12:40 PM - 12:55 PM CST (US/Central)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~11:40 AM - 11:55 AM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~10:40 AM - 10:55 AM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~6:40 PM - 6:55 PM UTC <br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~7:40 PM - 7:55 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Sunday, Dec 4 2022, ~8:40 PM - 8:55 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Monday, Dec 5 2022, ~12:10 AM - 12:25 AM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Monday, Dec 5 2022, ~2:40 AM - 2:55 AM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Monday, Dec 5 2022, ~3:40 AM - 3:55 AM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><a href="/2022/watch/dev/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></div>



# Talk

<div class="vid"><video controls preload="none" id="eshell-mainVideo"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-eshell--top-10-reasons-why-you-should-be-using-eshell--howard-abrams--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-eshell--top-10-reasons-why-you-should-be-using-eshell--howard-abrams--main.vtt" default />"""<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-eshell--top-10-reasons-why-you-should-be-using-eshell--howard-abrams--main--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="eshell-mainVideo" data="""
00:00.000 Introduction
00:29.000 1. It’s an Emacs REPL
00:48.600 2. It’s also a shell
01:10.120 3. You can mix these two modes
03:27.560 4. Emacs is better than shell
04:36.080 5. Better regular expressions
06:13.480 6. Loops are better with predicates
07:39.640 7. Output of last command
09:08.520 8. Redirection back to Emacs
10:26.880 9. Using Emacs buffers
12:28.400 10. cd to remote systems
12:59.360 Summary

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# Q&A

<div class="vid"><video controls preload="none" id="eshell-qanda"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2022/emacsconf-2022-eshell--top-10-reasons-why-you-should-be-using-eshell--howard-abrams--answers.webm" />${captions}<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2022/captions/emacsconf-2022-eshell--top-10-reasons-why-you-should-be-using-eshell--howard-abrams--answers--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="eshell-qanda" data="""
00:31.280 Do you fall back to vterm only when needing terminal emulation?
01:56.320 Have you thought about adding the Eshell manual?
02:43.200 Can Eshell be used from Elisp?
03:33.880 How does that interplay with literate devops?
04:42.880 Do you have a strategy for getting around Eshell's lack of support for input redirection?
07:35.040 Do you have a preferred method for getting argument completion for shell commands?
09:14.320 Similarly, is it possible to get Eldoc-based completion for Elisp calls in Eshell?
10:33.720 Integrating functions into Emacs core
12:51.760 Are you the maintainer of Eshell now? No, just an interested bystander.
18:13.880 Do you ever fall back to terminals/shells outside Emacs, and if so, in what circumstances?

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