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[[!template new="1" text="""Hello, everyone! Welcome to my talk,""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text=""""Getting detached from Emacs".""" start="00:00:04.454" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""When I started to use Emacs,""" start="00:00:07.321" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I quickly gravitated towards using it""" start="00:00:09.720" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""as much as I could.""" start="00:00:12.920" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Magit, Org, Dired,""" start="00:00:15.000" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""a lot of new possibilities opened up.""" start="00:00:17.880" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""However, there was a workflow""" start="00:00:21.360" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that was difficult for me to replace.""" start="00:00:23.280" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""The problem for me was running shell commands""" start="00:00:27.120" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""in sub-processes of Emacs,""" start="00:00:30.120" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which in some situations led me to stick to""" start="00:00:32.560" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""using an external terminal.""" start="00:00:34.880" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""These situations,""" start="00:00:38.000" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""often revolved around long-running shell commands,""" start="00:00:39.688" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""either on my local machine""" start="00:00:43.354" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""or on a remote host.""" start="00:00:46.154" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""When I was on a remote host,""" start="00:00:48.600" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I would also rely on using the program tmux""" start="00:00:50.240" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to be able to detach from the remote process.""" start="00:00:52.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""My main concern at the time""" start="00:00:57.280" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""was that I didn't want to having to avoid""" start="00:00:59.621" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""restarting Emacs,""" start="00:01:01.954" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""because I needed to wait for a process to complete.""" start="00:01:03.440" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""However, there was of course a lot of things""" start="00:01:07.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I was missing out on by not using Emacs.""" start="00:01:11.200" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""Therefore, my solution to resolving""" start="00:01:15.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the issue of occasionally having to leave Emacs""" start="00:01:19.760" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""led me down the path of developing the package""" start="00:01:22.840" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Detached.""" start="00:01:26.188" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""The package allows Emacs to delegate""" start="00:01:28.321" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the responsibility of creating processes""" start="00:01:31.160" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to the program dtach.""" start="00:01:33.640" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It also makes sure to write""" start="00:01:36.840" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the output of the process to a file,""" start="00:01:39.121" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""which we will see later on how that is being used.""" start="00:01:44.421" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""The package makes Emacs capable of""" start="00:01:48.254" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""attaching to these processes""" start="00:01:50.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""as well as managing them.""" start="00:01:53.120" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""In the package, each process is called a session,""" start="00:01:55.280" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and inside of Emacs that is just""" start="00:01:58.880" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""an object with properties""" start="00:02:01.040" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""such as what command is being run,""" start="00:02:02.560" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""what working directory is used,""" start="00:02:04.688" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""where the output is stored, etc.""" start="00:02:06.720" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""The important aspect is also that""" start="00:02:10.240" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""these objects are being persistent,""" start="00:02:12.480" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""so they are stored over time.""" start="00:02:16.840" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Today, I'm going to walk you through""" start="00:02:20.221" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""how I use the package and what advantages""" start="00:02:22.920" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""there are of treating processes like text.""" start="00:02:26.154" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""I'm going to start by opening up M-x shell,""" start="00:02:30.840" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and I will run a command""" start="00:02:35.720" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to update my package manager.""" start="00:02:40.388" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Instead of pressing return,""" start="00:02:46.920" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I'll simply press shift return""" start="00:02:48.354" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to let Emacs delegate the execution""" start="00:02:50.240" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to the dtach program.""" start="00:02:52.600" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Emacs will immediately attach itself to the process,""" start="00:02:54.920" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and we therefore don't perceive any difference""" start="00:02:57.600" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""from when running the command as a subprocess.""" start="00:03:00.960" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""We now have the option though""" start="00:03:04.480" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to detach from the session,""" start="00:03:06.588" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and later on we can of course""" start="00:03:09.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""reattach Emacs to the session.""" start="00:03:12.080" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""For me, this addresses the core""" start="00:03:17.154" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""of the problem that I had.""" start="00:03:20.521" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""But let’s see what’s more""" start="00:03:23.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the new workflow inside of Emacs can bring.""" start="00:03:25.040" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""The package supports multiple user interfaces""" start="00:03:30.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""such as Eshell and Compile.""" start="00:03:35.720" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I will therefore switch to the Detached project,""" start="00:03:39.840" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and I will run the build command that I use.""" start="00:03:43.360" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I will run it with detached-compile""" start="00:03:49.440" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""with the difference that""" start="00:03:54.040" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I can detach from the compilation.""" start="00:03:55.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""One benefit of this new workflow is that""" start="00:03:59.800" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I can get a system notification shown up here""" start="00:04:05.000" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""once a session has finished.""" start="00:04:08.680" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Previously, I was either forced to have""" start="00:04:10.760" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the terminal open so I could see it or hiding it,""" start="00:04:15.520" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but then risking having forgotten it.""" start="00:04:19.040" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""How do we then see the output of a session?""" start="00:04:27.854" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Get the detached-list-sessions command,""" start="00:04:32.560" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and here we see""" start="00:04:36.888" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""the command that we just built,""" start="00:04:42.954" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and we see the guix pull with an asterisk""" start="00:04:45.600" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""indicating that it is continuously running.""" start="00:04:48.440" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""If I press enter,""" start="00:04:54.480" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we will get the output of the session here.""" start="00:05:01.521" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And since it was run using compile,""" start="00:05:04.440" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we also have compilation mode enabled here,""" start="00:05:07.200" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""so we could navigate between""" start="00:05:11.720" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""potential warnings or errors.""" start="00:05:14.288" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And we see that there is a warning here.""" start="00:05:17.160" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""One thing that""" start="00:05:21.440" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I have prepared here is that""" start="00:05:26.721" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""if I open up the user interface,""" start="00:05:28.920" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we only see two sessions,""" start="00:05:32.240" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but that is because we applied a filter here.""" start="00:05:35.760" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, we have actually the only sessions""" start="00:05:39.088" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that are created within the last 12 hours""" start="00:05:43.160" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and that are considered unique.""" start="00:05:46.000" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, if I remove the uniqueness,""" start="00:05:47.360" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we also see that we have a previous build""" start="00:05:50.600" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""running on the main branch.""" start="00:05:57.040" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, I think that's typically normal""" start="00:05:59.280" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""that you might have that.""" start="00:06:02.760" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""And since the sessions can be considered text,""" start="00:06:07.080" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""we can just mark these two and check,""" start="00:06:10.920" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""does this warning exist on the main branch or not?""" start="00:06:14.760" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, we can just diff these ones""" start="00:06:18.880" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and we see that the warning is only present""" start="00:06:22.720" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""on the emacsconf branch.""" start="00:06:27.554" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""Now, another benefit, in my opinion,""" start="00:06:34.040" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""of the new way of working is that""" start="00:06:37.520" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I have these properties being displayed""" start="00:06:41.840" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""in the user interface.""" start="00:06:43.240" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I can quickly see which commands are still running,""" start="00:06:45.421" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""what hosts they are running on,""" start="00:06:48.960" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""where they are running,""" start="00:06:51.360" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and for how long they have been running.""" start="00:06:53.488" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And if they have run,""" start="00:06:58.221" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""how long did it take?""" start="00:07:00.421" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""Occasionally, though, there might be""" start="00:07:04.521" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""even more input needed to distinguish sessions.""" start="00:07:06.880" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, what I typically do then is""" start="00:07:16.880" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""press A to annotate the session,""" start="00:07:19.600" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I would add a "Warning found at emacsconf"""" start="00:07:22.200" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And then it will show up this annotation""" start="00:07:29.088" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""in the echo area when I select the session.""" start="00:07:32.954" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template new="1" text="""Another great improvement of using these sessions""" start="00:07:45.088" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and consider them being text is,""" start="00:07:48.080" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""now we also see the guix pull completed here.""" start="00:07:52.640" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Then we can also select and see that, okay,""" start="00:07:57.421" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""there is a lot of updates in this command,""" start="00:08:01.021" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but let's not look at it now.""" start="00:08:08.600" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Let's instead remember that""" start="00:08:10.160" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""previously last week""" start="00:08:17.654" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""when I ran a guix pull,""" start="00:08:19.840" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I saw an Emacs package that looks interesting.""" start="00:08:21.640" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I rather don't remember its full name,""" start="00:08:27.680" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""but it has something to do with collection.""" start="00:08:30.040" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, what I then can do is""" start="00:08:32.720" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""remove the 12 hour narrowing criteria,""" start="00:08:38.840" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and we can see here I got sessions ranging back""" start="00:08:42.280" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""even to 28th of October.""" start="00:08:47.680" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Since these are just to be considered text,""" start="00:08:51.040" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""I can--""" start="00:08:55.600" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""now let's first narrow the sessions""" start="00:08:58.754" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to only show the ones that run guix pull.""" start="00:09:00.320" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Then I would narrow based on the output""" start="00:09:05.288" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""containing a regular expression.""" start="00:09:08.440" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, I remember it was something with collection.""" start="00:09:11.280" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""And we got one hit.""" start="00:09:14.400" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Here it should be something with collection.""" start="00:09:20.088" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It was emacs-flymake-collection.""" start="00:09:24.188" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""This is something that is a""" start="00:09:29.621" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""very nice feature to have.""" start="00:09:34.821" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""It doesn't create any overhead""" start="00:09:38.400" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""of having these old sessions lying around""" start="00:09:42.160" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""and occasionally, it can be interesting""" start="00:09:45.280" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""to search through them as well.""" start="00:09:47.400" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""So, for me, this is another example of""" start="00:09:49.680" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""when bringing workflows into Emacs,""" start="00:09:55.000" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""it often opens up new exciting possibilities.""" start="00:10:00.054" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
[[!template text="""Thanks a lot for listening.""" start="00:10:05.121" video="mainVideo-detached" id="subtitle"]]
Captioner: anush
Questions or comments? Please e-mail [niklas.eklund@posteo.net](mailto:niklas.eklund@posteo.net?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202022%20detached%3A%20Getting%20detached%20from%20Emacs)
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