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WEBVTT
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so we can't hear you right now just to
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make sure
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no now we can hello
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hello morning good morning
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good morning all right so looks like
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um you can hear me let's see if the um
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stream can hear me can someone in Emacs
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con
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confirm that they can hear me as well
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yes awesome yep apparently they can
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awesome okay great um
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alrighty let's get started do you guys
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wanna
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go ahead with the opening sure
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sasha do you want to start okay hello
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and welcome to the second day of Emacs
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con 2020
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and you could we've got a whole lot of
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uh
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of development talks and coding related
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talks scheduled for today so you can
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do a quick scan of the schedule again
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all the times are very approximate
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so if you happen to be earlier late for
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something that you wanted to
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see we'll figure it out uh we've got um
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we've got
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talks about the Emacs development itself
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as well as
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developing with Emacs uh and a couple of
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things that
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were more user talks but got moved to
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the second day for timing reasons
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because there's so much stuff on the
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first day
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that's uh that's our quick schedule
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overview the schedule page has more
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of course now how do you actually do all
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that uh
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leo you want to tell them yep so as
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yesterday if you want to participate
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well I suppose you're
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watching the stream right now so I won't
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go into detail as far as this is
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concerned
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but for the questions and for taking
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notes we are using an after pad
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where basically you just go onto the
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page and you add your questions
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under the topic which is being discussed
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at the moment so I'm sure the people
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will be putting the legs back in the
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chat I'm just going to do this real
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quick
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there we go so now it's in the chat sir
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we have on isc three rooms that you can
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use
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if you want to get in touch with us
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first if you want to discuss whatever is
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going on during this stream you can go
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on
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imax cont okay and that's where most of
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the discussion happens
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we also have #emacsconf-accessible
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for the people who either can't see or
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can't hear and you know they
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we have lovely volunteers who have been
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describing what has been going on
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yesterday
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uh and we really thank you for this
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because it's really great for getting
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you know more people giving the chance
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to more people to follow the conference
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so thank you so much for this
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and also if you want to get in touch
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with us the organizers either if you are
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a speaker or if you have anything that
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you'd like us to know about
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something like a streaming problem or
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audio problem or anything along those
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lines you know
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maybe other programs actually keep them
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in imax conf we are looking at both
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charts anyway
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but to get in touch Emacsconf that oh
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sorry
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dash.org and also we had I don't believe
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we have
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we had all that much of this yesterday
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but if you would like to continue the
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discussion
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with some of the speakers like you had a
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topic that you really liked and you'd
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like to continue talking with them
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well we invite you to go on jitsi and to
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create a room
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uh all together and to have a direct
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direct chat with the speaker
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or whichever people might be interested
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in the topic as well
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okay I believe that's me I'm not sure to
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whom I'm handing
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the rest of the presentation is it to
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you I mean um yeah sure I can take it
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um all right so hello everyone welcome
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to the second day of ux comp 2020 um
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thank you for being here
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today and for those of you who were
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around yesterday thank you for being
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around yesterday as well
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um it was an awesome day and you know
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like leo and sasha said
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today I think is also very much gonna be
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another awesome day of great talks
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um yeah so I'm very much looking forward
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to it
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um so yeah the schedule is up um
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at emacsconf.org/2020/schedule you
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gotta scroll down
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to the second day uh let's see people
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tell me that my mic is quiet
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um I guess I can on the stream
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um I think so yeah let me double check
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this
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real quick okay I can also try
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um like increasing the volume here a
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little bit
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okay it doesn't sound all that quiet to
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me just because we are
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I'm being very familiar right now so the
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volume
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must be quite high compared to you no
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yeah it's it's fine um
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okay I think it's better now um anyways
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let's see awesome yeah so yesterday
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um you know so the setup that I'm using
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this year for streaming the desktop
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and the talks is that I use the um
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script a a script by the fsf forks which
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they also used for liquor planet
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and so the thing with this script is
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that it only takes one audio source by
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default
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and so I have that set to the desktop
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audio so yesterday on the spot I had to
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improvise to how to get my own audio on
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the stream and I used mumbo
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but then that added a delay which was
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pretty annoying um
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but today this morning I figured I could
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use pulse audio's um monitor system to
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add myself
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um right on this machine um so that the
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delay is shorter and
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seems to be working well so I'm very
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happy about that um
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but anyways yeah so let's get on we have
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the schedule
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um I'm thanking again the free software
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foundation tech team
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um for um you know
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uh allowing us to use this very big
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button uh instance
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um that uh you know for live talks um
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let's see um I'd like to thank all the
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volunteers once again
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um you know uh bavin david bremner
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david dave o'toole who's been specially
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helping out a lot
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in the e-max imax conf dash accessible
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channel with describing what's going on
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at any given moment
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um of course corwin
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carl boyd and um the two folks that
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you're seeing right beside me right now
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uh leon sasha
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who's been doing so much this year um
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thank you all very much
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um yeah let's see oh and also of course
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our wonderful speakers and audience um
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which
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are basically the main thing that this
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conference
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is about and is centered about us people
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talking about their experiences
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um sharing the things they've learned or
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they find interesting and
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for everyone to discussing in chat um
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yeah so it's awesome
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uh if you scroll down a little bit on
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the page
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um I just want to plug the mailing list
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right
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yeah so we have the emacsconf-discuss
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mailing list
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once again um which you know is
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we use for discussions around the
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conference
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including announcements before and after
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it's a fairly quiet list
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um so if you do like to subscribe um you
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know
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you won't get bombarded with emails
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really um
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uh yeah so that's something to consider
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um for example you know
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after the conference we're gonna be
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posting all the videos
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and um that's where I'm gonna be
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announcing it um at least
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in in one place one of the places um
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yeah and I'd also like to draw attention
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to our
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conduct guidelines at emacsconf.org
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conduct
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which is a series of guidelines and
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suggestions to to help make the event
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you know enjoyable and um you know an
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awesome experience for everyone
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involved um I think um so I wasn't
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keeping a close eye on the chat
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yesterday because it was super busy but
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I think
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uh in general you know everything was
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going pretty well pretty smoothly
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um so thank you so much everyone for
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keeping these in mind
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and um yeah that's it for me let's see
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if lee or sasha would like to add
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anything
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no but if you're all good to go you've
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said everything and we've said
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everything
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have a great day awesome yeah um
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uh okay someone okay so dave is asking
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what is the hallway track
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uh slash on conference um do either of
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you want to explain that or should I
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take it
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uh basically we're gonna have our hands
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full keeping the keeping the main track
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running but of course
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people have all sorts of interesting
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conversation ideas and sometimes it's
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nice to do it in real time or with
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shared screens or things like that
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so if you're having a conversation and
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you want to have
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more of a webcam or screen sharing thing
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to enrich that discussion feel free to
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set up a web conference using any of
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your okay
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can you do time in practice later all
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right feel free to
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set up your own conference c type web
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conference thingy
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and um and go find the people who are
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interested in the same thing
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and I'll do all that stuff right
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absolutely
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thanks sasha yeah so basically the idea
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is that
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so you know because of the limited time
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we kind of have to um keep moving along
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uh from one talk to the next and you
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know sometimes there's a lot of awesome
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questions or discussions going on
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from for example you know in Emacs con
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for like for the questions on the pad
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um yeah so the I guess hallway track or
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unconference
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is basically a suggestion for those who
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are interested
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to for example set up a jutsu meet room
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and then you know I'll go join there
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and discuss the talk if you know if the
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speaker can join after their talk
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wonderful
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um but if not even um you know if if
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only like you know the audience and
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folks you know from the emax campfire c
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would like to join and discuss that
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definitely works too
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um yeah that's it um
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I think oh one other thing that we I
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guess wanted to mention possibly is that
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um yesterday I think I noticed that a
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lot of the questions were getting added
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um like top to bottom on the pad but um
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I think the suggestion is to put them
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like stack them up so like
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um add new at the new questions on the
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top um
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that might make it easier both for you
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know the people
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to who are typing the questions um but
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also for the speaker to
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sort of have a fixed I guess um point
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where they're looking at for new
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questions
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um so don't put your questions under
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somebody else's question
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put it at that top level sort of you
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know thing
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right get your own bullet points yeah
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and on the same topic yesterday some
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people were a little scared
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when all the colors were removed it was
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me basically
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in order to help the speakers know which
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is the section that should be looking at
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at the start of every presentation what
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I will do is that I will wipe all the
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colors
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so all the attributions of modifications
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to authors
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so that the streamer sorry the speaker
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has a little easier time finding their
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talk in the list
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right yeah so yeah for for speakers just
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keep scrolling down until you hit a
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colorful
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colorful section um with the author
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colors
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and um yeah double check that um that's
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you know it is your talk
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um yeah with that said I think that's
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all of it for our opening remarks right
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um okay awesome so in that case
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um we will start queuing up the talks
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next up right after this opening remark
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we have Emacs development updates by
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um one of the co-maintainers of Emacs
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john weekley
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um it is a pre-recording and um
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I don't think john is awake yet because
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of right he's
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probably uh still asleep but um he will
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be
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um looking taking a look at the
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questions on the pad
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later on um so yeah please keep posting
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your questions on the path for him to
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later look and try to answer awesome
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so see you guys in a bit
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