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I can, yes.

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Okay, yeah, so I'm Zachary Kanfer,

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let's go to the

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questions. The first question, "Why

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do we go top to bottom for time

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progression,

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and left to right for low to high?"

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Interesting, I think…, so the initial

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thing I was copying, that initial app

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work this way, and

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yeah, I mean, certainly traditional music,

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you know, on a staff

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does go left to right like this.

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I mean, going top to bottom does make

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it easier to add more beats without

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having to wrap, but certainly that could

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be managed.

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Yeah, I had not really thought about

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it, but it is definitely something worth

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looking into.

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Yeah.

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Ah, good point, thank you. Let me go ahead

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and do that.

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The entire screen…

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Okay, so the screen share should be

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starting,

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there we go. Cool, all right.

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Two, "Will you play us another song?" Not

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now, I can make some recordings of

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it, or certainly you can try it.

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I couldn't quite get the

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microphone and the webcam and everything

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to work with the sound playing now. So,

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I can record some. Also, please…

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I have put a link at the… here in the

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Etherpad, zck.org/emacsconf2020 [updated],

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where you can go and get the source,

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and you can try it yourself. There's

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no dependencies needed, so it's just all

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in Emacs. So, please, you know, try it

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yourself.

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"Any chance for an Emacs tracker or mod

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player?"

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I don't really know what a mod player

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or tracker

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are, but I mean, I'm sure

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that would be cool, maybe there's one

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on now, but I don't know.

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My musical background. So, I've played

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various instruments since about the

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third grade.

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Started recorder, play cello, I play

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guitar now.

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But yeah, so just kind of random

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instruments, and

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I guess kind of some of those

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things

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influence how I think about music.

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"Are there any open source musical

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management sample libraries that could

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be used?"

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Good question, I'm sure there are, I

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don't know any of that integrate really

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well with Emacs.

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One of the cool things that I liked

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about this is that there are no

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dependencies,

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you know, you don't need any external

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program to

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generate the music. I mean, it does

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shell out to

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to play, but that

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should be able to be done on any

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operating system, as always, you have

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something that can play WAVE files,

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but yeah, it is interesting to kind of

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try the different sounds and different

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tones that you could get with

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different instruments.

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Have I written any actual songs?

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Nothing super

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well put together, I kind of just

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been playing around with this.

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It's kind of… making this was one of

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those things where once I made it, I

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was like, okay,

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now I can play with it, and I did a

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little bit, and was like, I don't know if

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I feel like it right now.

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You know, which I've found that to

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be the case with some things that I've

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implemented

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in Emacs where it's… I make it, and then

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it's the kind of some of the desire to

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use it all the time

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goes away, but I'm sure I'll circle back

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around

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at some point especially kind of maybe

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once I add in different tones or

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something.

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I guess a similar question for

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pre-recorded sounds. Yeah, I mean,

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if it's… part of what I did, what I wrote

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was a

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WAVE generation library, so, if you kind

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of have the data,

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you could use those and chop them

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up and take certain lengths of them

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and make a WAVE file, so it's not plug and

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play right now, but you could certainly

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add those notes to do it.

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"Any MIDI mapping possibilities?"

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I haven't looked into it, but I'm sure

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you definitely could output to MIDI

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which is another benefit of having

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that multiple layers with the top layer

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is just,

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you know, if the root note is this,

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we're just two semitones up or seven

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semitones up or whatever it is.

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It should be relatively simple to

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kind of switch out that layer underneath

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from WAVE to MIDI or other things.

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"What were some of the challenges with

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writing a special mode for Emacs?"

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Interested in getting into this, not

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sure where to start.

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There… yeah, it so…

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this isn't the first mode I've written,

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so that's right…,

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certainly that helps. I actually…

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I have a video that we recorded it

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as part of EmacsNYC on making a major

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mode.

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That's basically starts from

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nothing, and kind of builds up to

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an implementation of tic-tac-toe,

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but so it kind of goes into printing

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things out and buttons and making the

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mode.

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I mean, one of the best parts about Emacs

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is, because it's so

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configurable and so introspectible,

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you can start pretty simply,

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and just kind of ask Emacs about things,

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and then make one little

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change. It's really… it's not that bad,

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so, I'll try to throw a link up on that

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page I put up, or

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please email me for whoever asked this

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question to get a link to that video,

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or just look at the source

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code of this or any other major mode.

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Emacs makes it

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pretty easy to extend

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major modes. And I think that's

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the last question

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in the Etherpad, so, thanks so much

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everybody for coming.

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(Amin: Thank you so much

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to Zachary for your awesome talk,

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and for doing live questions.

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Thank you.) Thank you. (Amin: Cheers.)