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i'm hoping to keep this talk in the 15

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minutes and i'll take five minutes of

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question at the end

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so hello again i suppose you're starting

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to get pretty familiar with me and my

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start right now so

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right now we're getting into the nitty

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gritty we started today

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i told you about how i'd ventured from

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being a user

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to being a maintainer and right now i'm

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going to get the chance to

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actually tell you more about the project

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that i'm maintaining

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which is called org rome

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so even if i it would have had a better

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impact if i'd

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didn't scroll the page but you know

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sadly i'm out of tea

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it's getting late in europe and i'm

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starting to get tired

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so what i'm gonna do during this talk

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is just to do real survey for people who

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do not know what orgrom is about

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some of you might might have you know

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whilst browsing reddit

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found a topic about orgrom and thought

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to yourself oh that looks interesting

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but

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you know i have my own workflow and i

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get it don't need to change anything

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about it you know i'm completely fine

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using my very very large file or i'm

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completely fine having my

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database of notes which is i've been

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accruing for like 10 20 30 years or so

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so what i want to do during this talk

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is both to present to you what orgrom is

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about

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if you are in this group of people who

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do not

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know what algorithm is about but would

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like to know more but

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also for people who have close to no

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experience with emacs and org mode and

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was just found their way you know they

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wanted to find the system to

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write their notes basically and you know

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they discovered this little tool which

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is called orgrome

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and they'd like to know more about this

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so i've got 13

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minutes to convince you to use hologram

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so if we go in a very broad strokes

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what is orgram orgrom

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is a way for you to manage backlinks

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inside

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old mode and the keyword

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in what i've just said is links now

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there is a principle behind orgrom

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which is called the zettelgasten method

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which you can see written right there

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it's a german word

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which means a slit box if you remember

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in old libraries

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you had actually i believe if i scroll i

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should have an example of this

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yes so this is a slip box basically in

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all libraries you used to have all the

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references to the books that the library

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used to have

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inside those boxes and they're called

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slim boxes because you can

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insert stuff into the boxes and you can

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remove stuff out of the boxes

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now basically if i try

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to summarize as simply as i may what the

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zettel cast method

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is about it's about having a way

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to work with your notes which considers

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elements of knowledge as atoms

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so as something that is individual like

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a single file

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and you consider that in order to build

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knowledge

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you have to combine atoms together so

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that

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when you have one atom another atom

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if you link them together you have a

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complex

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thought or a complex molecule

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okay don't quote me on the chemistry by

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the way i shall remind you i'm an

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english major i have no idea what i'm

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talking about

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so how does it work as far as a

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note-taking

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system is concerned and to do so

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i'm just going to switch really quickly

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to my emacs if i

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may so i'm just going to screenshot

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onto my mac just give me a second to get

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the windows all right

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okay it's loading up oh no

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i think firefox has crashed again okay

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so you're gonna have to give me a second

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i need to figure this out

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okay so everything is frozen right now

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just to tell you so you're gonna have to

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deal with my lovely voice

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uh i mean can you confirm that if i

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switch to a new ttr you can still hear

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me

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so can you still hear me now

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okay so i'm gonna have probably to kill

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firefox and log in again

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so i'm sorry it's gonna cost us two

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minutes but i'm gonna try to be as fast

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as i can okay

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okay no problem thanks

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all right

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i guess no event is a good one without

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one or two technical difficulties

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so i guess this is our share of

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technical difficulties this year

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no problem

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all right guess who's back it's not

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britney it's just me sadly so you're

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gonna have to make do with me

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welcome back well thank you i'm just

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gonna turn back on the camera if i may

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all righty

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and i'm going to make myself a presenter

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and i'm going to

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share my screen with you sleep box

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testing

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hello

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so if my calculations are correct you

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should be able to see my monitor right

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now

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um yep but not your webcam feed

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not my webcam feed okay so i'm going to

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stop it

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sorry for the little delay folks you

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know it's uh

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the show must go on can you see it now

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um not yet still not

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damn it can i stop it okay so i'm gonna

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yeah maybe try like sharing a webcam

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first

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all right i'm back now so i'm going to

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share my webcam first

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okay

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[Music]

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all righty so can you confirm whenever

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you've got my webcam working

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let's see i don't see it yet

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unfortunately oh it's loading up yeah

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it's coming up

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yep i can see it awesome all right okay

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we're back on track i've got still eight

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minutes left to do so i might have to

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have a couple of minutes to my talk if

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you don't mind and shave off some

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questions

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okay do you want to share okay yeah

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i'm on my way too all right all right so

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please forget

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whatever whichever technical

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difficulties we might have have had for

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the last

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three four minutes but we're back on

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track now so

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uh orgrom what is it and how does it

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work so i was telling you all about

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atoms and i was telling you about links

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but how does it work concretely

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so right now what you're seeing on your

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screens

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is a slip box which is what we the fancy

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word that we use to designate your

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folder

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where all your notes are going to be

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living so you have here and i hope you

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can see my

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uh cursor yes you can so we have a file

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which is called

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index.org and the good thing is

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as you might have garnered by the fact

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that it finishes by

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that org is that it is just an old mod

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file

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so i can create a heading

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i can create another heading and

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everything works as you would expect it

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to

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it is completely it's just an awkward

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file at the end of the day

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so now what can we do with this

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now i've told you about links and you do

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know that

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org mode has links so what we're going

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to do

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is that we're going to create a new file

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so we're going to go back

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to our directory and what i'm going to

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do is that we have a special commands

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actually let me just

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show you my command i might help you a

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little bit

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see what i'm doing uh wait which is the

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buffer

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uh log mode yes exlog so now on the

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right side of the monitor you'll be able

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to see the command that i'm using

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if you don't mind in order to have as

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much realistic as possible i'm going to

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make it a little bit shorter

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smaller i should say is it not too small

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yeah i believe it's good

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so what i'm going to do is i'm going to

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run a command

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in orgrome which allows me to create a

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new note

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so i'm going to use my keybinding which

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is not this one definitely

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and i'm going to create a new file which

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is in a

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great tradition of examples in

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programming i'm going to call

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foo right so at the bottom

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in the bottom buffer i should say you

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are seeing the file

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foo which is as you can see here a

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capture buffer

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just like you would have in blog mode

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now what i'm going to do

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is that i'm going to validate this file

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and now

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you see that we are in the file foo

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and the good thing is that i can start

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writing without having to worry

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about anything else and i was thinking i

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was going to say to say that i'm

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showing off about my typing skills but i

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did make mistakes so

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well nobody's perfect right so now we do

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have this view file and we're going to

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go back to the index so let's go back to

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the directory

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we're going to refresh the file as you

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can see we have a file which is called

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foo

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and we have the index so now what i'm

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going to do

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is that i'm going to insert a link to

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this file

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so we're going to run another orgrim

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command which you can see here

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orgrim inset and i'm going to insert a

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link to the file

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foo and as you can see it has now

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appeared now what i'm going to do

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i'm going to save the file and now i'm

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going to show you

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the little thing i told you about

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backlinks before so i'm afraid i'm going

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to have to hide

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the commands for now but don't worry

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i'll be back

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and i'm going to show you the side

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buffer

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so it is the buffer that you see on the

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right side of your screen

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and right now it's telling you that

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index does not have any backlink

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which is normal but if we follow the

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link

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fu now you see something different on

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the right side so as you can see on the

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left side we're back insta inside the

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file foo

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but on the right side we have something

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showing up

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one backlink in the file index

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in under the heading heading you have

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the file

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sorry the link foo and you can just open

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the link

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and you will be brought exactly where it

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is so

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okay so that was one thing now just

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to make sure that you've understood

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properly i'm going to go back to the

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index

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i'm going to create a second file

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so now i'm going to use a command that

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is slightly different so let me just uh

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show you the commands on the right

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i'm going to run the command orgrim

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insert and i'm going to

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end to enter a file which is called bar

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so again at the bottom you can see that

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i have a new file bar

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i'm going to validate this file

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okay i'm going to save index.org

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and now if we go in bar and if i show

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you

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the links on the side you can see that

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exactly the same we have a link

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now just to make the pictures complete

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inside the file bar i'm going to insert

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a link to foo i'm going to save i'm

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going to go to the file foo and now on

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the right side

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you can see that we have two backlinks

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now you're gonna tell me yeah thank you

0:12:13.839,0:12:17.760
leo but

0:12:14.720,0:12:20.320
what's the point well the thing is

0:12:17.760,0:12:22.160
it might sound it might seem very simple

0:12:20.320,0:12:24.160
but i've just shown you

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but programmatically it's a little hard

0:12:24.160,0:12:28.000
to do like we have to

0:12:26.160,0:12:30.079
look into your files to make sure that

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every time you link your file

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somewhere else we need to track

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everything down

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and now as simple as orgrum might be

0:12:37.920,0:12:42.240
looking to you

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the thing is what we try to do with

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orgrum

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is to make sure that your collection of

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notes

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remains consistent whatever we do

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an example for instance like right now

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i've told you about a file named foo and

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the file name

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bar let's say that for whatever reason

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you decide to rename your file foo to

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something

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very original let's just say bar

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so we actually have a way in emacs in

0:13:11.040,0:13:14.560
orgrim i should say

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when you modify the title at the top of

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the file

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so we get foo i've modified it with baz

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you can see at the bottom that right now

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we haven't saved and we are still in the

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file

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fu.org i'm going to save

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and now what you see is

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a new name for the file but you may ask

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wait a second in the other file we had a

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link to this file

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does it mean that it's broken does it

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means does it mean sorry

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that we cannot access the file anymore

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but

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when we go there beginning to go in the

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index

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so obviously the actual description of

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the link hasn't been updated

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but if i show you what goes on under the

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hood by showing you

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what is fontify what is behind the

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content of the link

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actually it didn't work and that's why

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you never present live folks because

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otherwise you're

0:14:04.639,0:14:08.880
just going to show problems with the

0:14:05.920,0:14:12.079
software and that's not good

0:14:08.880,0:14:15.120
so something must have gone on obviously

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but generally speaking the file should

0:14:15.120,0:14:18.959
have been updated

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damn i'm showing you bugging my software

0:14:18.959,0:14:25.040
that's not very professional now is it

0:14:21.279,0:14:28.079
basically to come back to the main id

0:14:25.040,0:14:28.880
what we try to do with orgrom is to make

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sure that

0:14:28.880,0:14:35.279
everything remains consistent we

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really much love the system of

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organization that is behind this little

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castle method

0:14:38.720,0:14:41.600
now i was going at this point of the

0:14:40.240,0:14:42.639
presentation basically i wanted to go

0:14:41.600,0:14:45.199
back to firefox

0:14:42.639,0:14:46.880
and show you more stuff but it's likely

0:14:45.199,0:14:48.959
that it's going to crash again

0:14:46.880,0:14:50.240
so i'm not going to tempt the devil and

0:14:48.959,0:14:51.680
i'm just going to continue talking to

0:14:50.240,0:14:54.800
you like that

0:14:51.680,0:14:58.160
so the zettelkasten method

0:14:54.800,0:15:01.839
is a very organic way

0:14:58.160,0:15:04.959
to write notes and if you think

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i i believe as all mode users

0:15:04.959,0:15:08.000
we share quite a lot of features and i'm

0:15:06.639,0:15:09.600
out of time i'm just going to take one

0:15:08.000,0:15:12.320
more minute to answer this question

0:15:09.600,0:15:14.560
that i'm asking myself anyway but if

0:15:12.320,0:15:16.079
you're anything like me

0:15:14.560,0:15:18.240
you've you've been through many

0:15:16.079,0:15:18.959
iterations of your workflow inside of

0:15:18.240,0:15:20.959
mode

0:15:18.959,0:15:22.959
do i keep all my professional stuff

0:15:20.959,0:15:24.399
under one heading or do i create a

0:15:22.959,0:15:25.920
separate file for this

0:15:24.399,0:15:28.000
you know those types of questions on

0:15:25.920,0:15:30.639
which you could ponder for

0:15:28.000,0:15:31.360
many many hours at night generally when

0:15:30.639,0:15:34.560
you have a

0:15:31.360,0:15:36.959
tight deadline to be following but

0:15:34.560,0:15:38.240
what i've discovered by using orgrim for

0:15:36.959,0:15:40.720
taking notes about

0:15:38.240,0:15:41.360
my academic projects or by taking notes

0:15:40.720,0:15:44.880
on

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you know anything worth writing about

0:15:44.880,0:15:49.199
is that not having to worry about the

0:15:47.440,0:15:52.399
structure if you files

0:15:49.199,0:15:56.079
just having to worry about atoms

0:15:52.399,0:15:58.480
and links it does wonder

0:15:56.079,0:16:00.639
for the way you think about problems it

0:15:58.480,0:16:04.800
does wonder about your creativity

0:16:00.639,0:16:07.519
and it does wonder about your ability to

0:16:04.800,0:16:08.800
take your thoughts put them on a paper

0:16:07.519,0:16:10.399
and generally you know during this

0:16:08.800,0:16:13.120
process you realize oh maybe i do not

0:16:10.399,0:16:16.079
know this concept as well as i should

0:16:13.120,0:16:16.800
but i've never had a system which

0:16:16.079,0:16:19.839
brought me

0:16:16.800,0:16:21.440
as much serendipity as this system

0:16:19.839,0:16:24.880
and for those who don't know serendipity

0:16:21.440,0:16:28.800
the ability to come up with novel ideas

0:16:24.880,0:16:32.240
on the spot contextually so

0:16:28.800,0:16:34.959
this was just a little primer on what

0:16:32.240,0:16:36.000
orgrom and the zettelkasten is about in

0:16:34.959,0:16:38.000
about

0:16:36.000,0:16:39.680
20 minutes i'll be giving you a talk

0:16:38.000,0:16:40.800
about the technical aspects of orgrim

0:16:39.680,0:16:43.040
which i'm certain

0:16:40.800,0:16:44.160
some of you will be very interested in

0:16:43.040,0:16:46.160
and

0:16:44.160,0:16:48.560
otherwise i do have a youtube channel

0:16:46.160,0:16:50.720
where i try to

0:16:48.560,0:16:52.079
record videos where i explain to you

0:16:50.720,0:16:53.839
what the org

0:16:52.079,0:16:55.600
what organ is about what the method is

0:16:53.839,0:16:57.040
about and

0:16:55.600,0:16:58.720
and i'll just finish on this i'm two

0:16:57.040,0:17:02.399
minutes extra time sorry

0:16:58.720,0:17:04.079
but um we do know that a lot of people

0:17:02.399,0:17:04.959
are interested into orgrim i mentioned

0:17:04.079,0:17:06.160
at the very beginning of the

0:17:04.959,0:17:09.360
presentation

0:17:06.160,0:17:10.640
that a lot of people discovered emacs

0:17:09.360,0:17:14.640
and orgrom

0:17:10.640,0:17:18.400
and old mode even through orgrom

0:17:14.640,0:17:20.959
and we feel that we have a duty to

0:17:18.400,0:17:22.720
introduce those people this new pool of

0:17:20.959,0:17:25.439
people most of whom are

0:17:22.720,0:17:27.600
academics into the world of emacs and

0:17:25.439,0:17:30.240
into the water free software

0:17:27.600,0:17:32.240
and right now the thing is we're not

0:17:30.240,0:17:34.080
doing a particularly good job at writing

0:17:32.240,0:17:36.160
manuals i'm just going to try

0:17:34.080,0:17:37.360
to stop sharing my screen because i'm

0:17:36.160,0:17:40.240
nearly to the end

0:17:37.360,0:17:41.919
and just try sharing my firefox windows

0:17:40.240,0:17:43.120
if it allows me no it doesn't allow me

0:17:41.919,0:17:44.160
which is very good that's why i won't

0:17:43.120,0:17:47.200
have to

0:17:44.160,0:17:50.080
to screw things up but

0:17:47.200,0:17:50.880
uh we know that our manual is not fully

0:17:50.080,0:17:53.760
up to date

0:17:50.880,0:17:54.480
but believe me one of the key focus

0:17:53.760,0:17:56.960
right now

0:17:54.480,0:17:57.840
is making sure that within two to three

0:17:56.960,0:17:59.679
months

0:17:57.840,0:18:02.559
we have a good tutorial for people to

0:17:59.679,0:18:03.840
join and we have good videos for people

0:18:02.559,0:18:04.640
to get introduced to the topics we're

0:18:03.840,0:18:06.320
covering

0:18:04.640,0:18:07.679
and that's me done so thank you so much

0:18:06.320,0:18:09.840
for listening and now i'll be taking

0:18:07.679,0:18:12.880
some questions

0:18:09.840,0:18:17.679
thank you very much leo oh thank you

0:18:12.880,0:18:19.440
cheers we have i think about two minutes

0:18:17.679,0:18:20.880
four questions and i see a lot of them

0:18:19.440,0:18:23.120
on the pad

0:18:20.880,0:18:24.320
would you take them sure so yep i'm

0:18:23.120,0:18:27.600
scrolling i'm scrolling

0:18:24.320,0:18:30.000
uh getting things done that's aldrich uh

0:18:27.600,0:18:31.679
still scrolling okay olgram oh wow okay

0:18:30.000,0:18:33.600
so we do have quite a lot of questions

0:18:31.679,0:18:34.799
so please excuse me if i'm answering

0:18:33.600,0:18:35.760
your questions really fast but i just

0:18:34.799,0:18:38.080
want to make sure that i cover

0:18:35.760,0:18:40.240
as much ground as possible so what is

0:18:38.080,0:18:41.039
the functionality of all chrome unlinked

0:18:40.240,0:18:43.200
references

0:18:41.039,0:18:45.200
so basically when you have a file that

0:18:43.200,0:18:48.000
is not linked anywhere

0:18:45.200,0:18:49.520
this function allows you to see uh let's

0:18:48.000,0:18:51.200
say we have a file emacs

0:18:49.520,0:18:53.200
and we've talked about emacs in another

0:18:51.200,0:18:57.440
note but we haven't created a link

0:18:53.200,0:18:59.520
what this command do is that it

0:18:57.440,0:19:00.720
looks into your folder for every mention

0:18:59.520,0:19:03.840
of emacs that is not

0:19:00.720,0:19:05.039
linked to the note emacs and it prints

0:19:03.840,0:19:06.480
all the results in the buffer so that

0:19:05.039,0:19:07.840
you know okay i've talked about emacs

0:19:06.480,0:19:10.480
here but i didn't create a link

0:19:07.840,0:19:11.840
do i want to create a link that's it so

0:19:10.480,0:19:12.480
is it possible to use the backlinks

0:19:11.840,0:19:15.039
features

0:19:12.480,0:19:16.400
in regular old buffers right now no it

0:19:15.039,0:19:18.080
is not possible we are

0:19:16.400,0:19:20.240
having a very controlled environment

0:19:18.080,0:19:21.280
which is i told you about this clipbox

0:19:20.240,0:19:22.799
folder before

0:19:21.280,0:19:24.400
this is where we keep all the nodes and

0:19:22.799,0:19:26.080
the reason why we do this will be more

0:19:24.400,0:19:27.360
evident when i go through the technical

0:19:26.080,0:19:30.720
presentation

0:19:27.360,0:19:32.080
but uh it's because of optimization

0:19:30.720,0:19:33.760
so i'll get back to you on that

0:19:32.080,0:19:35.440
afterwards um

0:19:33.760,0:19:37.039
do you make all group database

0:19:35.440,0:19:39.760
accessible across computers

0:19:37.039,0:19:41.760
uh no i do not because i'm only using my

0:19:39.760,0:19:44.559
laptop but plenty of people have had

0:19:41.760,0:19:47.039
a lot of success doing so either by

0:19:44.559,0:19:47.679
sharing the files via a sync thing or by

0:19:47.039,0:19:49.760
any other

0:19:47.679,0:19:52.400
method we have a section in a manual

0:19:49.760,0:19:53.760
specifying how to do this uh how do you

0:19:52.400,0:19:54.880
discover the tags links to add to your

0:19:53.760,0:19:56.160
new algorithm note

0:19:54.880,0:19:57.679
there is something that i didn't tell

0:19:56.160,0:19:58.240
you about which is called orgrim server

0:19:57.679,0:20:01.679
which is a

0:19:58.240,0:20:04.320
magnificent way to uh access

0:20:01.679,0:20:05.360
visually the nodes that you have in your

0:20:04.320,0:20:07.840
in your system

0:20:05.360,0:20:08.799
you'll have to go to the orgrom.com

0:20:07.840,0:20:10.640
website

0:20:08.799,0:20:12.080
and please go on our github page and we

0:20:10.640,0:20:14.640
show everything and

0:20:12.080,0:20:16.000
um i hope what i've told you has excited

0:20:14.640,0:20:18.000
you so please go

0:20:16.000,0:20:20.080
uh maybe one more question two more

0:20:18.000,0:20:21.679
questions just to make sure uh is it

0:20:20.080,0:20:23.039
possible to seamlessly link to other

0:20:21.679,0:20:23.919
notes with syntax instead of a

0:20:23.039,0:20:25.840
keybinding

0:20:23.919,0:20:27.120
yes we are working on this this is a

0:20:25.840,0:20:28.880
huge project that we're doing with

0:20:27.120,0:20:30.960
orgrim which is called uh

0:20:28.880,0:20:32.880
link ux and we're trying to do something

0:20:30.960,0:20:34.559
which is very close to rome research

0:20:32.880,0:20:36.880
which is the software we're using for

0:20:34.559,0:20:39.200
inspiration for orgrom

0:20:36.880,0:20:41.280
and uh yes there's there are going to be

0:20:39.200,0:20:42.640
ways to do this in the future i'm going

0:20:41.280,0:20:45.280
to give you a window of

0:20:42.640,0:20:46.320
maybe three to four months and one last

0:20:45.280,0:20:48.480
question

0:20:46.320,0:20:49.440
uh good on you thank you well thank you

0:20:48.480,0:20:51.039
for for this

0:20:49.440,0:20:53.200
is there an easy way to export several

0:20:51.039,0:20:56.960
selected nodes to say a lattice file

0:20:53.200,0:20:59.840
latex yes uh i mean it's old mode

0:20:56.960,0:21:00.480
at the very core it is org mode so you

0:20:59.840,0:21:02.559
know you don't

0:21:00.480,0:21:04.000
if you want to export to latex file you

0:21:02.559,0:21:06.320
can you just use the

0:21:04.000,0:21:08.320
aux latex library which you can access

0:21:06.320,0:21:11.760
by pressing ctrl c ctrl

0:21:08.320,0:21:12.480
e for export all right is it uh i

0:21:11.760,0:21:13.919
believe i'm

0:21:12.480,0:21:16.880
it's all the time i had i mean can you

0:21:13.919,0:21:19.039
confirm this

0:21:16.880,0:21:20.240
okay so if you have more questions don't

0:21:19.039,0:21:23.679
worry i'll be in chat

0:21:20.240,0:21:26.799
i'll be answering them uh i'm also on on

0:21:23.679,0:21:28.159
all the platforms we advertise on on

0:21:26.799,0:21:29.280
orgram if you want to reach me i'm

0:21:28.159,0:21:31.919
really easy to reach

0:21:29.280,0:21:32.559
our gita page is always open so thank

0:21:31.919,0:21:35.520
you all for

0:21:32.559,0:21:37.440
all your questions and all your energy

0:21:35.520,0:21:38.640
about orgrim it is very exciting for me

0:21:37.440,0:21:42.000
to to see all this

0:21:38.640,0:21:44.080
but right now i'll be ending off the

0:21:42.000,0:21:45.840
microphone i should say to nura who is

0:21:44.080,0:21:48.480
going to talk to you about the

0:21:45.840,0:21:50.080
academic way to use orgrom and i'll be

0:21:48.480,0:21:53.760
back afterwards with the technical talk

0:21:50.080,0:21:57.760
okay thank you thank you very much leo

0:21:53.760,0:21:57.760
see you later guys