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So first question, what does

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Bard Bivou(m)acs mean? Good question.

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In one version of my talk, I spent too

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long explaining it,

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and decided to cut it out.

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It's basically a bad pun on

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band camp.

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A bivouac--I don't even know if I'm

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pronouncing that correctly--it's like

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a tent or a camp that you put up hastily,

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and a bard is a musician, of course.

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Yeah, I don't know. I like puns. I'm a dad.

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That's the best I could come up with.

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I'll probably find a different name for

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it but I liked that "bivoaucs,"

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if you stick an m in there, it becomes

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Bivou(m)acs.

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It's kind of like editor macros for

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generating some HTML.

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Yes, it is confusing, chatting on IRC

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at the same time.

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Great question. (Amin: Grant,

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so right now, you're sharing your

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screen. Are you planning on

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showing something with it, or for example,

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should I maximize you?) I don't know.

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I can turn it off for now. Okay.

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(Amin: You can turn on the webcam.) Yeah, okay.

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(Amin: I'll maximize your

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webcam.) Okay, thanks.

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I'll get to the answer for my color

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theme here in a bit in IRC.

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Next question on

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the Etherpad, does this metadata

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workflow also support

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unsynchronized lyrics within ID3 tags,

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multi-line metadata?

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I don't know, actually.

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It's funny because I was trying out

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different things with metadata,

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and really the biggest thing was to

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figure out how to do mass tag editing.

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And that was like...

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It wasn't very intuitive, like I said,

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with EMMS.

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I think EMMS is really great, but its

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interface is huge.

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like if you do M-x and type emms, you get

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I don't know, 270-some candidates.

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There's a lot of functions going on.

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I basically found the

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features that I needed to get this

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workflow working.

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I would guess that you probably can do

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it, and if you don't,

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if you can't do it out of the box, I

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think you could script EMMS to do that.

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I'd like to know more, and I'm certainly

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going to be

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investigating it. I will try and post my

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findings somewhere online.

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Is it possible to import batch metadata?

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I'm not sure. I would guess

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yes is the answer. EMMS can connect to

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metadata services. I haven't done

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that because I was just

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using audio files that I created myself.

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I know that on the back end, it calls out to

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shell programs for tagging things.

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there's a lot of different options that can

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shell out too. I was using the

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the vorbis tools to tag the particular

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files I was working with.

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You can also use tiny tag, and there's

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some other...

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That might be the python library. I can't

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remember. There's two other libraries

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that I can shell out to for

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doing metadata.

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My current workflow for tagging music is

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to first apply replay gain in fubar 2000,

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fix egregious mistakes, use beats to

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apply metadata from music brains,

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or discogs, go over remaining albums with

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fubar 2000 again.

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Is there a chance textual tagging could

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allow doing it all in one program?

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Have I experimented with mass tag

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update queries? I have not.

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Again, I was just doing this workflow,

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taking raw files with no tags and doing that.

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I believe because it calls out to

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the programs in the back end, I'm sure

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you could work that out.

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I think EMMS would benefit from

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having something like that because

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we work with text, and being able

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to use Emacs as a front end for those

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updates would be really fantastic. So

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really, it's just a matter of

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writing the interface to the external tool.

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Is there a link to some info expanding

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philosophy of how to compensate

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musicians?

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No, I don't really have a lot of

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philosophy around that. I guess the first

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thing I could say would be

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something like a universal income. I feel

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like that would solve a lot of problems,

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if musicians could just be musicians and

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not have to worry about their pay. I will

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think about it more.

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This is one of my first

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forays into getting

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public with some of these ideas, so I

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will try to do more

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and let the community know. What Emacs

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theme am I using?

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Can't remember. It's one of the Kaolin themes.

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I think it was Aurora or

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or Bubble Gum, maybe, but the

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Kaolin themes are nice. I recommend them.

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Not using Doom Emacs, Doom mode line though.

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It's very pretty. SVG support built into

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Emacs?

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I'm using Emacs 27.1, and yes, SVG support

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is built in.

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I may have had to compile it with some

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Cairo support.

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I don't remember for sure.

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But yes, you can even take screenshots of

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your Emacs

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from within Emacs in SVG.

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It's pretty great.

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I don't know how much more time we have

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left for questions.

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That's most of the things on the etherpad.

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(Amin: I think we have like 10 more minutes to

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catch up with the schedule.

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If there are more questions,

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feel free to answer them.)

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I'll start looking through IRC.

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(Amin: And keep an eye on the pad too.)

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Thank you all for listening and for

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enjoying the talk. I'm glad it turned out well.

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Awesome. Yeah, it's been fun

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so far.

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How did I manage? I can post a

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snippet of that, or actually I can share

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my screen, can't I...

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Okay. I actually have it up right here.

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So I think I got this from alphapapa, to

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be honest.

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I define screenshot-svg.

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It's an interactive command. Oh yeah,

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there's alphapapa.

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Okay, there we go.

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I would like to change this so that I

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can get it into

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the copy-paste buffer so I don't

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have to copy the file in, but I haven't really

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hacked on it yet.

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Okay, org heading colors.

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That might be a good question.

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I know, the presentation...

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Sorry, it's hard to think and type at

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the same time.

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Think and talk and type.

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So the presentation is just a

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normal org file, right, so I have my headers,

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and the author--you can even stick your

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email and other headers in there.

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But there's a package called org-tree-slide.

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Whoops, why is it not...

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I must have not required it. Good

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question. (Amin: Grant,

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can you try sharing your screen maybe?)

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Oh, is it not shared? I'm sorry.

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(Amin: Thank you.)

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There we go, should be coming up.

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(Amin: It's coming up. Yep, we see it.)

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Awesome.

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All right. Okay. I don't know why this

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isn't working.

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It was working.

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Okay, you want to see the screenshot.

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Whoops. Okay, I just took a screenshot.

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So, org-tree-slide.

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I don't know why it's not launching.

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I thought that I had required it, but I

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must not have.

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Maybe I'll try.

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Okay.

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So there we go. So org-tree-slide is a

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way that basically uses

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narrowing and some kind of font tricks to...

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it changes your titles or your

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metadata into

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this banner for the title here,

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and it automatically sets the faces for you.

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You can customize that, of course. And then, as you

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go through the Org file, you get these

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kind of nice animations and--

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what's it called--breadcrumbs up at the top.

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So org-tree-slide. I highly recommend it.

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It's really nice because you can give

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your presentation

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and practice it, and while you're

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practicing it, you can edit things as well,

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because it's still just

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an Org document using narrowing, you know.

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It doesn't

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actually change anything.

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Definitely recommend org-tree-slide mode.

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Okay, let's see, what else...

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Share my screen to demo. Oh, that's the SVG.

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Let's see.

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Okay, so I don't know if you can see this now,

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but I'm actually viewing the SVG

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screenshot that I took with Emacs.

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See here's the source of it. So Emacs

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made that.

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And here's the image.

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It's cool because you can even do it

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again and again, and

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open more screenshots of screenshots.

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Yeah, definitely Emacsception.

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Fun stuff.

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Anything else in chat?

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Heading colors? Oh, yeah. I talked about the

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themes. This is another Kaolin theme.

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I think the one in the talk was

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maybe this one, Aurora.

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Oh, here, there's something funny when

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you start org-tree-slide with a

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different theme.

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This top header bar gets the faces from

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that previous theme. I have not

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figured out how to fix that yet.

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Did I have to compile to get the

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screenshot? I think maybe I did.

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Yes, if I'm remembering correctly.

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I got Emacs 27. I'm not on a Mac.

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I saw alphapapa's comment on reddit, and then

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I recompiled it with Cairo support.

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Yes.

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Okay, lots of good conversation on here.

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Yep, I have like one or two more minutes.

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Okay

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I guess while I'm here, I might as

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well say thank you to

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the organizers. I really appreciate

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everybody's work on this.

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It's fun to be a part of this community.

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I'm enjoying the other talks I've seen

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so far today, and I'm looking forward to

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to the rest.

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It's really interesting, just from

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being on Emacs in IRC

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for a few months, I've already connected

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with a lot of interesting people

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and have a lot of cool connections

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already.

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(Amin: Thank you for being a part of the

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community, Grant.)

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That's good to be here. I have another

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talk tomorrow as well.

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Oh, thanks for everyone in the Etherpad

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for putting more comments on these

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questions here

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and taking the notes.

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(Amin: I think that's about all the time

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that we have for the Q&A.

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Okay. Thank you again so much, Grant,

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for your awesome talk and for popping in

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for questions.)

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Yeah, thanks again for hosting. See you

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later. Cheers!