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# Ongoing projects
- Subtitles/transcripts: sachac, bhavin192
- FOSSHost: mplsCorwin
- Calendar, connecting with meetups: sachac
- Streaming infrastructure for meetups?: bandali, sachac
- Amin and Gopar's podcast: bandali, gopar
- mplsCorwin's livestreaming project, working on trimming
- Writing about Emacs: zaeph
# January 21, 2021 meeting
- Sacha: one more talk left to transcribe for day 1, hooray!
Everything else has been edited. Next step for day 1 is to edit
the subtitles into transcripts and make them available. Also want
to check if ableplayer passes LibreJS, since that can give us
clickable transcripts; will include text transcript anyway for
- zaeph: Emacs Research Group wants to meet daily
- bandali: A little tired because of work; but good progress is
being made (yay!). Some progress done on the podcast.
- corwin: mental health improving; looking forward to getting back
to the swing of things :)
- Next EmacsConf: Calendar?
- We could stick to the same period as 2020's edition (i.e.,
mid-November to mid-December)
- start earlier: accomidated anticipated higher
- First entire week of July might be a good time: it'd give us 4
months before the actual conference
- Office hours
- Could be used for the outreach part of the CFP
- Could also keep people excited about EmacsConf
- On the format
- A regular timeslot where people can join
- We ask them whether we could use a recording of the session to
build some hype for the EmacsConf
- We can also have a private moment with them to address some of
the possible problems with their talk/topic
- Short-ish and regular works best, probably
- Let's work on this during February, and let's aim for a first
session in March
- if there are not presentations we can record and share we
could use clips from recent orginizer meetings; we could close
meetings with statements intended for this use.
- On having multiple tracks for the next EmacsConf, either
simultaneous or single-threaded
- Three tracks based on levels of mastery, e.g.:
- Package developers
- Last year, we had de-facto tracks, or recurring topics like music,
academic research, SVG-graphics, games, typography/themes,
free-software philosophy, etc.
- We could use this info for the **outreach program**: 'We'd love to
have people come talk to us about music'
- Overhauling the graphics for the conferenc
- Scenes in OBS
- Custom dashboard.el ?
- Figuring out the roles for the next EmacsConf
- Fleshing out roles for everyone in advance (so that we're not
figuring it out one week prior) and along with this any private
comms to faciliate (e.g. iff voice-over and cuts are different
- Diversity discussions
- Taking inspiration from the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines
- On changing the time for the weekly meeting
- Corwin is happy to keep the same time because it'll motivate him
to wake up early on Saturdays
- We could have a monthly session which takes place on a weekday to
try to get more people on board (David O'Toole, David Bremner,
Karl Voit, etc.)
- Ongoing projects for February:
- FSF Fiscal sponsorship (Leo)
- Office hours roadmap (Leo)
# January 14, 2021 meeting
- More subtitles edited (bhavin192 is helping too). Almost done
with day 1 except for opening/closing remarks and manual transcriptions for 03-questions and 08
- switched to using emacsnews Reddit account
- scheduled tweets from @sachac about upcoming Emacs events - do you want these mirrored to @emacsconf or something?
- no new events aside from the ones already on the calendar
- bandali: recorded first episode of Emacs Weekly, skipped the news component and just had an interview about EmacsConf
- mix audio together and edit it
- plan to have several buffer episodes before releasing, maybe beginning of February
- can put together separate segments
- news might be doable with less prep
- can do solo episodes
- maybe community hosts, too?
- nudge from Sacha to transcribe or have show notes if possible =)
- gopar doesn't have a laptop at the moment
- which parts of your config might be good to contribute to core?
questions to nudge people to contribute to core/packages
- This question coudl also be used in workshops settings with a sense of chronology: 1. publish it online, 2. merge it to core?
- Q for mplsCorwin: would you like to transcribe 03-questions and 08, or shall I go ahead and do them? - sachac
- Q for bandali: is the emacsnews Reddit thing handy for you? It's okay if you're still experimenting.
- not tested yet
- Testing quick collaboration
- Testing tmate so that other people can edit the meeting minutes easily
- Test? it is working!
- Here I am in tmate and emacsclient. Each person can have their own emacsclient tab.
- pat selves on back for getting stuff done, yay
- Diversity workshop: It'd be nice to organise a 2h session where we discuss every problem that arised in the last conference, and pre-empt those that might arise for the next editions
- Using the word 'open source'
- Lack of diversity in the presentations (CFP?)
- Next steps:
- sachac: follow up with mplsCorwin or transcribe 03-questions, 08; then all the day 1 talks will be done
# January 7, 2021 meeting
- Checking in:
- bandali, zaeph, gopar, sachac, dto
- bandali: fairly uneventful, things are going okay, learning more about Jami, experimenting with DSLR for webcam but aspect ratio is a little weird
- sachac: virtual school started again; EmacsNYC meetup; emacs calendar in HTML and Org
- dto: having fun with neural networks
- zaeph: at his parents, can't do much work, enjoying the lull; figuring out collaborative slipboxing with org-roam; getting more into writing
- Update: emacslife.com/calendar
- Update: attended NYC meetup
- met with organizers of EmacsNYC. They were curious about BBB and Jitsi, streaming, IRC web client
- met with gopar last night re: podcast
- will work on a blog post about the technical setup
- someone wanted to set up a meetup in Mexico, too, so maybe we can make an updated starting-a-meetup guide (<https://harryrschwartz.com/2015/09/14/starting-an-emacs-meetup.html>)
- how to find people and advertise
- Emacs News
- how to stream and record
- what it might be like if there are no presentations (don't worry! hang out, share cool stuff, figure things out together, flip through Emacs News)
- sharing afterwards
- CRDT: see BBB chat if you want to try it
- tutorial; (also, SystemCrafters just livestreamed an Emacs Lisp tutorial too)
- Hmm, it's like having lab hours
- Could be open (office hours, bring your questions; maybe a liiittle structure) or guided (here's an exercise to start with)
- Upcoming workshops
- BBB has breakout rooms, might be worth looking into if it scales up a lot; Jitsi can have multiple people sharing screens at the same time;
- EmacsNYC said Jitsi is okay for the 20-30 people they've seen so far; EmacsBerlin said the same too (I think they self-host; want to see how they're doing it?). Sounds like it's much better now than it was last year
- dto will figure it out and write things up =)
- one-on-one tutorial was nice; finger memory for how to type some of these Lisp expressions
- it's better to have that interactivity, I think, since there are plenty of lecture-type resources on the Net
- one-on-one is fine, and then you can scale up (1-on-2, etc.) as you become more comfortable with it and see what can help you scale (ex: having them SSH into a shared server with emacsclients and then being able to quickly flip through their buffers so that you can peek over their shoulder or quickly show something?)
- gopar: upcoming podcast recording re: EmacsConf experience
- figuring out name
- planning to have a little buffer
- Hey, do you want to blend that into the Emacs Lisp / Emacs tutorial/workshop idea? Whenever you don't have any content, you can teach people a little more
- bhavin192: Mailing list for meetups (some common prefix or something similar).
- **let's remember to discuss this and the next point** =)
- bhavin192: Update to Code of Conduct (I was hoping to use the same text or page for Emacs APAC meetup)
- zaeph: figuring out collaborating via Org Mode
- per-project pages make sense if you think about it from the web publishing point of view
- bandali: can be a different wiki if you want
- zaeph is a little intimidated by the idea of working with the garage door open
- there is already a private organizer wiki, so we can use that to incubate things if you want to collaboratively work on notes and stuff
- also totally okay to work on things individually and not collectively if you want, and we don't have to figure out workflows that work for everyone or a name that covers everything; sounding official increases expectations and may cause problems
# January 2, 2021 meeting
- mplsCorwin: FOSSHost: okay to experiment with being a CDN, will
experiment with videos
- authenticated RTMP server to support streaming meetups from Jitsi?
- sachac: added more events to
<https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Usergroups> and the calendar
- sachac: subed.el patches for splitting and merging subtitles, will
continue editing subtitles
- Thinking about name:
- Current: emacs.el podcast
- Emacs Weekly? Probably okay, although includes commitment to
actually make it weekly
- Amin and Gopar's Wild World of Emacs?
- ideas for making it visually interesting when there's no video
- Suggested guest: Fermin - interesting story about how he got into
Emacs and started making it better for PHP
- Making these conversations more public:
- Maybe start with just putting public meeting minutes somewhere,
like the wiki, and then figure out if anyone actually wants to
subscribe to it =)
- E-mail summary to mailing list?
- <https://emacsconf.org/2020/meetings/> announced on IRC
- With long-form summary at some point?
- dto volunteering to help Leo (it turns out dto was also an
English major in his past life, and has done a fair bit of
- mplsCorwin can handle social media
- bandali: avoid perfectionism
- Lots of people have a hard time with this
- getting things out of your head = good
- don't let the great be the enemy of the good. Take advantage
of the friendly community.
- dto: story about local trails committee, which is kind of like
- Look, we can just post a rough outline, whee! =)
- bullet-points are fine as a starting point
- Segments of recording? Timer in the pad can help.
- Livestream with delay?
- Something to grow into, maybe; let's start with text and
possibly recording segments
- Maybe private part and then public part, with time notes in case
there are things we need to remove from the recording, keeping
private segment as short as possible
- Everyone's cool with this
- Discussed: Separate days for private and public meeting? Might
take too much time.
- Guidelines for private segments: document reasons if possible
- Buzz factor: vet ideas before unleashing them? preview?
- Figuring out the persona/voice/feeling for EmacsConf, for the
- Hard to figure out how to communicate both excitement and
- Diversity and perspective: we're trying to figure out how this
comes across from the outside, without our own knowledge
- sachac: We could try to just dump the outline for starters, and
can come up with quick automation for transforming the Etherpad
- Is it because we're trying to figure out the official voice for
EmacsConf? Is it easier to talk as individuals?
- Sticker giveaway: mplsCorwin
- Next week, 3PM UTC Saturday, Leo to send calendar invite and/or e-mail:
- Leo will write a summary of what we've been doing and put it in the
pad, for e-mailing out?
- Braindumps welcome =)
- Week after: public meeting/recording