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# State of Retro Gaming in Emacs
Vasilij "wasamasa" Schneidermann
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Many jokes have been made about the true nature of Emacs, such as it
being a fully-fledged operating system. This talk will demonstrate
its suitability for playing retro games, then explore the inner
workings of a [CHIP-8](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIP-8) emulator capable of smooth video game emulation.
[1]: <https://depp.brause.cc/talks/chicken-saar/>
[2]: <https://depp.brause.cc/talks/openchaos-2019-11/>
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# Questions
## Q5: Do you think would be possible to write some compiler in order to write chip-8 games on elisp?
It could be possible if you restrict yourself to some very limited
Elisp subset or lispy assembler. For the latter, here's some projects
to draw inspiration from:
- <https://ahefner.livejournal.com/20528.html>.
- <http://www.dustmop.io/blog/2019/09/10/what-remains-technical-breakdown/>
->
<http://www.pawfal.org/dave/blog/2016/05/a-6502-lisp-compiler-sprite-animation-and-the-nesfamicom/>.
- <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Oriented_Assembly_Lisp> ->
<https://blog.jakspeedruns.com/opengoal-project-update-september-2020/>.
## Q4: What's the biggest perf bottleneck for your emulator? does it spend time executing your Lisp or something else in the Emacs infrastructure (eg redisplay)?
Redisplay was super slow, it's like 3-4x as slow as executing the CPU
cycles.
- Okay that's the reason why GCCEmacs does not help :)
## Q3: Do you think that you make our tiny console based in the chip ATMega like Arduboy?
I'm sorry, I didn't quite understand the question, could you please
clarify it? I'm not exactly a hardware person, might have to defer it
to someone else.
I've looked at Arduboy and I believe the DEFCON CHIP-8 Badge is the
closest to this:
<https://hackaday.io/project/19121-andxor-dc25-badge/log/53223-chip8-schip-game-emulation>
## Q2: Any tutorial to start? I want to make my game now, no, for chip8
I'm not aware of tutorials, but there's CHIP-8 resources online. You
can of course study the assembly of existing games, that's how I
figured out the tricks that broke my emulator :>
## Q1: How did you manage to present a game engine without showing any game? :-) Show us!!
See the alt stream, it has several demos not shown due to time
constraints.
# Notes
- Slides available at <https://depp.brause.cc/talks/emacsconf-2020/>.
- Repository available at <https://depp.brause.cc/chip8.el/>.
- Blog post available at
<https://emacsninja.com/posts/smooth-video-game-emulation-in-emacs.html>.
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