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diff --git a/2025/info/blee-lcnt-after.md b/2025/info/blee-lcnt-after.md index 8983bcf5..415408f8 100644 --- a/2025/info/blee-lcnt-after.md +++ b/2025/info/blee-lcnt-after.md @@ -702,7 +702,350 @@ Captioner: mohsen -Questions or comments? Please e-mail [emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org](mailto:emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20blee-lcnt%3A%20Blee-LCNT%3A%20An%20Emacs-centered%20content%20production%20and%20self-publication%20framework) +<div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="blee-lcnt-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""Greetings. Salaam again. I'm delighted to be here""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and happy to answer your questions.""" start="00:00:05.200" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm not seeing anything yet,""" start="00:00:11.200" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but let me take advantage of this time""" start="00:00:12.840" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to speak about one question""" start="00:00:17.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you can bring up the pad so that you can look at it.""" start="00:00:17.800" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I saw coming in earlier on the pad,""" start="00:00:20.080" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which was all the outputs""" start="00:00:22.880" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the inputs that you mentioned, where are they?""" start="00:00:25.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So they are on GitHub, and this is in one of my slides.""" start="00:00:29.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mentioned the URL for it. I'll show you that as well.""" start="00:00:35.440" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So the URL for it is github.com bxplpc18068,""" start="00:00:43.360" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay. Hang on a second. I will.""" start="00:00:43.440" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is the handle for this talk.""" start="00:00:50.392" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In there, you have all the PDFs and the HTMLs,""" start="00:00:58.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then people can join here as well.""" start="00:01:00.120" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a citation, a bib input, and also the sources.""" start="00:01:06.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if you were to go to the PDF, you will see""" start="00:01:12.120" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um, both the article presentation and the,""" start="00:01:19.440" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""let's take a quick look at the.""" start="00:01:24.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Which is what you have seen. So.""" start="00:01:27.280" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And as far as the sources are, there are two primary files.""" start="00:01:34.160" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think we're now in a live Q&A session for Blee-LCNT,""" start="00:01:37.000" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This presentation, left to right,""" start="00:01:40.280" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and people can join us here in the Big Blue Button room,""" start="00:01:46.000" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is the one that includes all the LaTeX packages.""" start="00:01:47.200" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We might as well take a quick look.""" start="00:01:50.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So what's in there is primarily the use packages.""" start="00:01:52.642" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then it dispatches to body press art.""" start="00:01:57.601" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And this is where the code is.""" start="00:02:07.000" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I walked through this briefly.""" start="00:02:11.520" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, notice here again that this is a mixture of LaTeX and Org.""" start="00:02:14.560" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Each of the presentation slides are here.""" start="00:02:26.840" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""For example, my introduction""" start="00:02:31.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is just a video that gets included.""" start="00:02:34.520" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then the notes that I use, the voiceover,""" start="00:02:37.240" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is also included in the LaTeX file.""" start="00:02:41.120" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me... It'll probably be easy""" start="00:02:47.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to take those voiceover notes""" start="00:02:50.080" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then align them with a tool like NES.""" start="00:02:52.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to make subtitles for your videos.""" start="00:02:54.960" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Exactly, and that is what I do.""" start="00:02:58.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So there is a way to gather them all as P-notes.""" start="00:03:01.200" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so all the P-notes get together in a single file,""" start="00:03:08.520" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then you feed that to Aeneas, and it will align them.""" start="00:03:13.840" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then there is the work of using your subed""" start="00:03:20.600" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to just get the right sort of line length on them.""" start="00:03:23.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But you did all of that for me this year, Sacha.""" start="00:03:30.280" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you very much.""" start="00:03:33.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It was just a matter of not having time.""" start="00:03:34.520" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Otherwise, I plan to do it myself. It's all right.""" start="00:03:37.560" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It was very easy since he provided the full narration.""" start="00:03:43.560" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I still need to tweak it sometimes,""" start="00:03:46.640" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I often use the waveforms in subed""" start="00:03:50.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to find the right starting time and ending time for things.""" start="00:03:52.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But it is so nice to have a presentation""" start="00:03:58.560" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where you can experience it in different forms,""" start="00:04:01.520" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as an article, as a video, as a post with links and everything.""" start="00:04:03.880" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Very handy.""" start="00:04:10.160" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Right, and in case a teacher uses this for class lectures,""" start="00:04:11.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then the student profits from all sorts.""" start="00:04:20.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The article presentation format is very useful""" start="00:04:26.080" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for a student to add their own notes to it and the rest.""" start="00:04:29.000" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Exactly as you said, having multiple forms is great.""" start="00:04:33.240" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Video has its place, reveal has its place,""" start="00:04:37.520" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""PDF has its place, article has its place.""" start="00:04:40.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All of them work together.""" start="00:04:44.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've been having a hard time figuring out""" start="00:04:48.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how to make the reveal.js version of a presentation""" start="00:04:50.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""more easily distributable, though.""" start="00:04:54.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is something we've had a hard time""" start="00:04:57.000" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with in the past, too.""" start="00:04:58.840" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You have these lovely EmacsConf presentations""" start="00:05:00.200" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that could be reveal presentations,""" start="00:05:02.760" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but hosting them doesn't quite fit""" start="00:05:04.840" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in the usual assumptions people have. Exactly, exactly.""" start="00:05:07.760" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if we were to have a reveal server,""" start="00:05:13.640" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then we could upload our reveal inputs to it.""" start="00:05:16.560" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But you're right, we should look""" start="00:05:20.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for some sort of a packaging""" start="00:05:25.000" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that is more plug and distribute. Yeah, so I'd be all game""" start="00:05:26.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if we wanted to do it for next year,""" start="00:05:34.080" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'd be happy to provide all the reveal outputs.""" start="00:05:36.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In fact, they are here, let me touch on that quickly.""" start="00:05:42.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Good point you brought up. So, this is the. Reveal output.""" start="00:05:45.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So all of these, you see the images and the audio""" start="00:05:53.640" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in my own environment are SIM links to where I keep them.""" start="00:05:57.520" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So those need to come in,""" start="00:06:02.360" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but the reveal output really comes right here.""" start="00:06:06.240" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And this is how it looks.""" start="00:06:10.600" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If that's a link you can add to the pad,""" start="00:06:13.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then I can add you to the top page afterwards.""" start="00:06:15.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think as a, as a speaker,""" start="00:06:19.800" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I tend to just self host the thing.""" start="00:06:21.840" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that way also, if I find a bug, which often happens,""" start="00:06:24.120" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can go and quietly update it.""" start="00:06:28.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Exactly. Exactly. Sure. Sure. Yeah.""" start="00:06:30.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This right now, what we are looking at is from GitHub.""" start="00:06:36.440" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And the audio and the images, of course, are large,""" start="00:06:44.240" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I did not upload them. But I can send them, sure.""" start="00:06:48.600" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, a few other things maybe I can elaborate on.""" start="00:06:55.760" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is the kombut strapping page for BISOS, also on there.""" start="00:07:02.000" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And if somebody wanted to actually""" start="00:07:08.640" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""dig deeper and go through this,""" start="00:07:11.080" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a good starting point would be my GitHub page.""" start="00:07:12.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But my GitHub page is not done and organized the usual way.""" start="00:07:18.960" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I only have three repositories""" start="00:07:24.640" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the repositories basically say,""" start="00:07:27.000" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""here is where you need to go.""" start="00:07:30.360" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So all of my work is organized as organizations.""" start="00:07:32.267" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, for example, for Emacs, if you were to go to BXBli,""" start="00:07:39.160" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you will see all the relevant repos for that purpose.""" start="00:07:48.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, for example, if you wanted to""" start="00:07:56.360" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""come and take a look at mail template,""" start="00:07:58.976" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""templating, distribution, and tracking,""" start="00:08:03.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you would get a Emacs package ready to go over here.""" start="00:08:08.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But again, all of this is through the use of GitHub organizations.""" start="00:08:16.240" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So my repos are by subject""" start="00:08:23.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the by source itself has 69 repositories""" start="00:08:26.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where different sections of it are packaged as PIP packages.""" start="00:08:33.240" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, for example, for LCNT, we can go there.""" start="00:08:38.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, these are the packages that let you,""" start="00:08:42.360" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""let me go there, that let you dissect.""" start="00:08:46.440" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sorry, you have your slides shared at the moment,""" start="00:08:53.160" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I don't know if you're in a different tab.""" start="00:08:55.200" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, am I in a different tab?""" start="00:08:59.600" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I thought that that would follow me.""" start="00:09:03.080" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, I am in a different tab. Let me see.""" start="00:09:06.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is the one that you are seeing,""" start="00:09:16.120" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so let me go over here. Perfect. Now you're seeing it.""" start="00:09:19.880" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So literally on the same page. Awesome. Right.""" start="00:09:28.840" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you were not actually seeing what I was saying.""" start="00:09:31.280" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, so what I was saying that is that""" start="00:09:33.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you go to my primary website, GitHub page,""" start="00:09:36.160" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you will see that there are only three repos there.""" start="00:09:42.160" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And those repos just give information""" start="00:09:45.440" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about where the real repos are.""" start="00:09:49.760" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And the real repos are organized in various organizations.""" start="00:09:52.960" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, for example, for Emacs packages, I use the bxblee""" start="00:09:57.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And in there, there are 40 repositories.""" start="00:10:06.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And as an example, you can choose, for example,""" start="00:10:12.000" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""AI plus is just a few additional libraries for menus, for AIDERMAX.""" start="00:10:15.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And the rest of BLEE is done that way as well.""" start="00:10:26.520" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if you were to let me also show""" start="00:10:31.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""more relevant stuff to the content generation.""" start="00:10:36.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And everything related to BySauce in Python is in BySauce pip.""" start="00:10:43.760" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""These are packages that are ready""" start="00:10:48.840" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to be exported to pypi and""" start="00:10:52.880" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""For example, for LCNT, if you go here,""" start="00:10:57.960" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""let's go to the bin directory.""" start="00:11:02.750" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""These are the utilities that dissect the PDF output of Beamer""" start="00:11:04.559" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""converted to images so that you can insert them in Reveal.""" start="00:11:15.809" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then again, if you were to just wanted to dig deeper""" start="00:11:23.840" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in any of these as components,""" start="00:11:29.160" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you would simply start from this top level page""" start="00:11:34.760" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and explore the organizations.""" start="00:11:40.560" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So in total, maybe there is 300 repos,""" start="00:11:44.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but they are organized by subject matter""" start="00:11:48.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""within GitHub organizations.""" start="00:11:54.280" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah. Additional general comment.""" start="00:12:03.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you were to look at my presentation,""" start="00:12:10.800" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'd say I touched on five different topics.""" start="00:12:13.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, one topic was this content generation in general.""" start="00:12:17.520" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The second one was this challenge of DIY model and recipes""" start="00:12:24.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""versus building something large""" start="00:12:35.280" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and including everything in it.""" start="00:12:38.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that is, that has been the motivation""" start="00:12:40.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for BySauce and BLE.""" start="00:12:43.520" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I'm interested in getting feedback on it.""" start="00:12:46.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In general, the open source culture""" start="00:12:50.280" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""has been focusing on components""" start="00:12:54.520" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and large American corporations""" start="00:13:00.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""have focused in integration of these components.""" start="00:13:03.440" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So my short message here is that""" start="00:13:07.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we should start thinking as providing solutions""" start="00:13:11.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as opposed to minor pieces and packages""" start="00:13:17.960" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and put them all together and claim them as our own digital ecosystem.""" start="00:13:23.520" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And this is the concept behind ByStar, BySource and BLEE.""" start="00:13:30.600" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The third point I was making throughout""" start="00:13:38.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is this concept of dynamic blocks everywhere,""" start="00:13:41.000" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and Comiga, which is the inverse of Babel.""" start="00:13:45.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I'd also be interested in feedback on those.""" start="00:13:51.600" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think the d-blocks-everywhere concept,""" start="00:13:57.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can very quickly show that.""" start="00:14:03.240" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it would be in the LaTeX file, as an example.""" start="00:14:13.080" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I didn't really do a good job in digging deeper into that.""" start="00:14:18.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if you go to the sources""" start="00:14:23.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you look at any of the slides,""" start="00:14:25.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All the slides are in here inside of a dynamic block.""" start="00:14:31.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is an org D block,""" start="00:14:39.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but you would invoke it in LaTeX mode.""" start="00:14:41.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then from this begin to this end,""" start="00:14:46.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""everything is auto-generated""" start="00:14:51.200" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""through the Elisp function, body MM video.""" start="00:14:54.560" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And the parameters that it takes are the video pass.""" start="00:15:00.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So all of this code is repeated all over the place.""" start="00:15:06.880" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And all you need in it is the video pass.""" start="00:15:12.240" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it's very easy to think of this as a macro capability,""" start="00:15:15.800" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""except that the macro is visible.""" start="00:15:21.960" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it has one additional benefit""" start="00:15:25.080" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on top of general macro capabilities,""" start="00:15:29.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and that is that it's open.""" start="00:15:34.800" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In this particular case, it closes,""" start="00:15:36.760" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but let me show you another one where it is open.""" start="00:15:41.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if you look at, this is latex section, this one is good.""" start="00:15:46.440" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is a derived image. And by saying that it's open""" start="00:15:54.880" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is that you see my begin verbatim and my begin frame.""" start="00:16:00.440" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""They end and there is no closing for them.""" start="00:16:06.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So the extra text that is outside""" start="00:16:11.440" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the D block and closes it is down here.""" start="00:16:15.000" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And none of the existing macro capabilities""" start="00:16:21.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""gives you this feature. This even comes handy in Lisp.""" start="00:16:24.960" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that is a proposal saying""" start="00:16:30.800" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that let's make D blocks, dynamic blocks,""" start="00:16:40.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""generalized to all of Emacs, as opposed to just org mode.""" start="00:16:47.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that's relatively simple.""" start="00:16:52.960" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And the Emacs source team could easily decide""" start="00:16:54.760" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that this is worthwhile doing.""" start="00:17:01.360" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then, of course, I've gone""" start="00:17:02.960" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""over it through the presentation.""" start="00:17:07.760" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, I see 1 question coming in. What changes have you seen?""" start="00:17:09.960" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the culture while developing all these things""" start="00:17:20.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like liver halal system and now BLCNT.""" start="00:17:24.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well, it's a work in progress, I would say.""" start="00:17:28.640" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We learn from one another.""" start="00:17:40.080" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And what I'm doing may be considered""" start="00:17:43.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just a stepwise increment,""" start="00:17:47.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but the cultural input is that we really should start""" start="00:17:52.200" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""thinking about providing solutions as opposed to packages.""" start="00:18:01.800" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The FOSS culture is really limited in its scope to packages""" start="00:18:09.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or even if when you think something very large like Debian,""" start="00:18:19.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is a collection of packages.""" start="00:18:24.800" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it is still choice oriented,""" start="00:18:28.160" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as opposed to solution oriented.""" start="00:18:31.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah. Are there any additional topics or questions?""" start="00:18:55.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Otherwise, I'll just add a few additional concepts.""" start="00:19:03.600" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So the two other points made throughout the presentations""" start="00:19:11.160" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are that this statement about clear invalidity""" start="00:19:18.080" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the Western IPO regime.""" start="00:19:28.760" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So throughout the first movement,""" start="00:19:30.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we have been focusing on providing alternative licenses""" start="00:19:34.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which coexist with the IPR system.""" start="00:19:42.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that is the practical thing to do.""" start="00:19:49.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We are doing a jujitsu on IPR.""" start="00:19:52.200" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We are saying that this is our license to it.""" start="00:19:55.880" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But conceptually, there has been little discussion""" start="00:20:00.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and also positioning on this basic question""" start="00:20:07.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as to whether or not copyright""" start="00:20:14.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and patents are valid or invalid.""" start="00:20:17.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And what I am saying is that it is clear that they are invalid,""" start="00:20:21.120" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""particularly once you start looking at them""" start="00:20:26.640" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with the lens of polyexistentials.""" start="00:20:30.440" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that the false movement""" start="00:20:33.760" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""really needs to combine these two,""" start="00:20:39.240" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this notion of free software and open source licenses,""" start="00:20:42.200" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and combined with the belief system""" start="00:20:47.360" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that we are completely and utterly against""" start="00:20:51.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the validity of the Western intellectual property rights regime.""" start="00:20:55.840" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I use the Western and the American occasionally,""" start="00:21:00.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the reason behind that is that in fact it is, they are Western.""" start="00:21:05.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you go to any other language, if you go to Farsi,""" start="00:21:12.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you go to Arabic, if you go to Chinese,""" start="00:21:16.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you go to Japanese, which are non-Western cultures,""" start="00:21:19.080" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the concept of intellectual property,""" start="00:21:24.160" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the words, the vocabulary of those""" start="00:21:28.640" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""combination of intellectual and property,""" start="00:21:33.160" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""did not exist anywhere in those cultures.""" start="00:21:36.640" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's only in the past, maybe 60, 70 years""" start="00:21:40.560" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that they have been translated from the Western world and brought into it.""" start="00:21:44.560" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So there is an inherent root""" start="00:21:52.280" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""into the intellectual property rights system,""" start="00:21:54.640" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which goes to the Western culture.""" start="00:21:58.960" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The second point that I have brought into""" start="00:22:02.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this presentation and the previous ones""" start="00:22:08.440" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is this question of, if we go with free software,""" start="00:22:11.000" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if we go with open software,""" start="00:22:16.240" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are we really creating the right labels?""" start="00:22:18.120" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And my point is that no, neither of them,""" start="00:22:22.160" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""neither free software, nor open source""" start="00:22:25.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are capturing really the essence""" start="00:22:29.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of what we are trying to do.""" start="00:22:33.160" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I claim that that is in fact ethics and morality.""" start="00:22:36.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it is societal belief that if we reject""" start="00:22:41.440" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""intellectual property rights regime,""" start="00:22:48.880" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what do we replace it with?""" start="00:22:51.880" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And in my thinking is that a software developer""" start="00:22:53.280" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""does not get to choose""" start="00:22:58.800" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what license goes with his or her software,""" start="00:23:00.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and that the equivalent of a federal GPL""" start="00:23:04.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is the default correct license""" start="00:23:09.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to use for all of your software""" start="00:23:13.840" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it is the one that reflects the belief system""" start="00:23:16.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that all software should be ethical software.""" start="00:23:21.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, I'm looking at the Etherpad again and""" start="00:23:24.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The question is about IP and AI.""" start="00:23:43.560" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yeah, over the past two years,""" start="00:23:48.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""something huge has happened.""" start="00:23:54.360" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And what I am seeing in there as a solution""" start="00:23:56.600" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is essentially comes down to a talk""" start="00:24:04.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that was given maybe two years ago by someone at EmacsConf,""" start="00:24:12.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and its label was attribution-based economics.""" start="00:24:16.840" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In my thinking, intellectual property""" start="00:24:22.360" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as a whole is invalid.""" start="00:24:28.320" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But that means that through something like a federal GPL,""" start="00:24:29.840" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you focus on attribution basing, proper attribution basing.""" start="00:24:36.120" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If somebody has done some work,""" start="00:24:41.720" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it should be clear, no matter what, that that work is his.""" start="00:24:43.840" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that we already, even prior to AI, we were seeing this.""" start="00:24:48.600" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We were seeing large GitHub repos with hundreds of authors.""" start="00:24:54.880" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it was utterly unclear as to who would own this whole thing.""" start="00:24:59.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And any piece of it is not of significance.""" start="00:25:09.880" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What is of significance is the whole thing.""" start="00:25:14.120" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So moving towards that attribution based economics is key.""" start="00:25:16.880" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then once we do that,""" start="00:25:25.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then we accept AI as a reality.""" start="00:25:27.600" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""AI should still take very seriously""" start="00:25:31.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and conform to attribution-based economics.""" start="00:25:38.200" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In other words, what is generated by the machine""" start="00:25:44.000" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""should not be claimed to be no one's""" start="00:25:47.880" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or the machine owners, the AI owners.""" start="00:25:51.280" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It should still clearly be attributed""" start="00:25:54.240" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to the people who contributed in its creation.""" start="00:25:56.880" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This all becomes very muddy, very clear,""" start="00:26:03.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I don't have a simple or clear answer to it.""" start="00:26:06.960" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But the perimeters of the solution lie in""" start="00:26:11.920" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""rejection of intellectual property,""" start="00:26:16.080" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""replacement of the intellectual property""" start="00:26:21.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with attribution-based economics,""" start="00:26:25.040" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and restrictions on AI use""" start="00:26:27.400" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of not properly attributed content.""" start="00:26:31.200" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, I'd say that would be, it's a complicated topic""" start="00:26:38.200" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I would simply say I haven't figured it out at all.""" start="00:26:50.240" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I just have a perimeter set of concepts""" start="00:26:56.120" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that can be used to drive it.""" start="00:27:03.760" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Are there any other questions? If there aren't any,""" start="00:27:06.480" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I thank everybody again,""" start="00:27:20.680" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and particularly the EmacsConf organizers and Sacha.""" start="00:27:23.160" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I look forward to continuing all of this next year.""" start="00:27:27.800" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Unless there is any objection,""" start="00:27:32.640" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll leave the session and close it. Thank you.""" start="00:27:39.080" video="qanda-blee-lcnt" id="subtitle"]] + +</div>Questions or comments? Please e-mail [emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org](mailto:emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20blee-lcnt%3A%20Blee-LCNT%3A%20An%20Emacs-centered%20content%20production%20and%20self-publication%20framework) <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-after-page --> diff --git a/2025/info/blee-lcnt-before.md b/2025/info/blee-lcnt-before.md index ef6b39b5..fe7faabf 100644 --- a/2025/info/blee-lcnt-before.md +++ b/2025/info/blee-lcnt-before.md @@ -1,18 +1,14 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sat 2025-12-06. Solid lines show talks with Q&A via BigBlueButton. 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src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-blee-lcnt--bleelcnt-an-emacscentered-content-production-and-selfpublication-framework--mohsen-banan--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-blee-lcnt--bleelcnt-an-emacscentered-content-production-and-selfpublication-framework--mohsen-banan--main.vtt" default />"""<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-blee-lcnt--bleelcnt-an-emacscentered-content-production-and-selfpublication-framework--mohsen-banan--main--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="mainVideo-blee-lcnt" data=""" 00:05.760 Introduction @@ -41,6 +37,10 @@ Status: Q&A finished, IRC and pad will be archived on this page 35:07.720 Ingredients of BISOS platforms and their progression 36:02.560 Moving forward -"""]]<div></div>Duration: 36:41 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-blee-lcnt">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-blee-lcnt.html">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-blee-lcnt--bleelcnt-an-emacscentered-content-production-and-selfpublication-framework--mohsen-banan--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-blee-lcnt--bleelcnt-an-emacscentered-content-production-and-selfpublication-framework--mohsen-banan--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a 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href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-blee-lcnt">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-blee-lcnt--bleelcnt-an-emacscentered-content-production-and-selfpublication-framework--mohsen-banan--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-blee-lcnt--bleelcnt-an-emacscentered-content-production-and-selfpublication-framework--mohsen-banan--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-blee-lcnt--bleelcnt-an-emacscentered-content-production-and-selfpublication-framework--mohsen-banan--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-blee-lcnt--bleelcnt-an-emacscentered-content-production-and-selfpublication-framework--mohsen-banan--main.opus">Download --main.opus (32MB)</a></li><li><a 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\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/blee-lcnt-nav.md b/2025/info/blee-lcnt-nav.md index fcf1d9fe..70dd2eb8 100644 --- a/2025/info/blee-lcnt-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/blee-lcnt-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/llm">Emacs, editors, and LLM driven workflows</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/private-ai">Emacs and private AI: a great match</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/calc">Basic Calc functionality for engineering or electronics</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/greader">GNU Emacs Greader (Gnamù Reader) mode is the best Emacs mode in existence</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/bookclub-tapas-after.md b/2025/info/bookclub-tapas-after.md index c4b08e7c..0f66ac66 100644 --- a/2025/info/bookclub-tapas-after.md +++ b/2025/info/bookclub-tapas-after.md @@ -815,7 +815,712 @@ Captioner: sachac -Questions or comments? Please e-mail [hello@ElephantErgonomics.com](mailto:hello@ElephantErgonomics.com?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20bookclub-tapas%3A%20Bookclub%20tapas) +<div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="bookclub-tapas-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""All right, take it away. Okay, am I, are we live?""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, we're live. Oh man, holy moly.""" start="00:00:07.880" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, that's surreal. Hi everyone. Oh man.""" start="00:00:12.760" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Ah, so excited to be here. So good to see all of you. Okay.""" start="00:00:19.360" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, should we just go ahead and get right into it?""" start="00:00:26.320" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, let me, let me see here. So I have.""" start="00:00:29.480" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, I see, I see some, I see some questions coming in.""" start="00:00:38.480" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Perfect. I am going to show my share my screen real quick.""" start="00:00:41.560" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We have currently currently we have""" start="00:00:47.080" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a sort of a dross thing going.""" start="00:00:54.400" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so I just wanted to, while we're waiting""" start="00:00:59.080" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for some more stuff to come in,""" start="00:01:04.520" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I just wanted to sort of idle on this buffer here.""" start="00:01:05.560" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you increase your font size slightly,""" start="00:01:11.920" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that might be even nicer.""" start="00:01:13.560" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, absolutely, gladly. Whoa, okay. There we go.""" start="00:01:15.960" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, the first question""" start="00:01:38.160" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""was looking for examples of files in book club style.""" start="00:01:41.560" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The person says, that seems to be related""" start="00:01:45.840" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to what I've been doing,""" start="00:01:48.800" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but coming from different influences. Yes, yes.""" start="00:01:49.680" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I included a, included a,""" start="00:01:54.240" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me see, I'm just looking at the IRC here""" start="00:02:03.560" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and smiling at all the people. So, yes, I provided a link.""" start="00:02:07.880" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I think that an excellent.""" start="00:02:16.720" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I have gone ahead and provided""" start="00:02:19.040" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the get the link to the repo""" start="00:02:24.160" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I'm going to go ahead and post that again.""" start="00:02:26.960" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So this should serve as a full example""" start="00:02:30.480" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of what a just sort of standard book club file looks like.""" start="00:02:34.040" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And if anyone has like specific questions""" start="00:02:39.520" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about anything in particular,""" start="00:02:41.560" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""they would love to see my sort of like walkthrough""" start="00:02:42.840" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and narrate like specifically, you know, any place in this file""" start="00:02:47.800" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that they would like to see me sort of like go over live,""" start="00:02:52.240" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I would be super happy to do that.""" start="00:02:55.320" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I have the whole, you know, more or less complete""" start="00:02:58.720" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""book club file for Squint pulled up here.""" start="00:03:03.440" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, I have my vision laid out,""" start="00:03:10.800" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which has my initial sort of goal.""" start="00:03:14.600" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know, the background and the vision sort of combined""" start="00:03:18.640" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to lay out what my general sort of goal is.""" start="00:03:22.880" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I just realized, let me kill my stream there.""" start="00:03:28.560" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There we go. All right. There's another question.""" start="00:03:31.320" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The product of a tapa like squint.org""" start="00:03:39.080" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""would be pure gold for an agent like Cloud Code.""" start="00:03:41.440" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Have you experimented with providing an agent with a final output""" start="00:03:44.360" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and letting it chew through to-dos?""" start="00:03:47.520" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That would be a really excellent question.""" start="00:03:50.920" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I actually just kind of recently""" start="00:03:53.320" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""got into Clawed in particular.""" start="00:03:54.920" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I played quite a bit with GPT and""" start="00:03:58.160" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and a lot of 8 billion parameter local models.""" start="00:04:01.680" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I was never super impressed.""" start="00:04:07.240" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It always felt like I was just sort of wrangling""" start="00:04:09.880" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to get it on the same page,""" start="00:04:13.000" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""whether as a result of sycophantism""" start="00:04:14.640" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or really just not having enough parameters""" start="00:04:16.800" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in order to understand the context of what's going on.""" start="00:04:19.400" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Cloud has completely changed my perception""" start="00:04:21.920" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of what an LLM can do or not.""" start="00:04:25.760" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It makes autonomy not seem like a total fever train.""" start="00:04:27.360" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have definitely been curious about""" start="00:04:31.120" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how an LLM would react to book club files.""" start="00:04:36.440" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think that, yeah, especially like,""" start="00:04:39.640" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've been daydreaming a little bit about,""" start="00:04:41.720" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know, having it generate scratch artifacts""" start="00:04:43.800" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or suggesting, you know, changes to the format.""" start="00:04:49.920" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's like, yeah, the fact that""" start="00:04:54.800" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this is all like, you know, like super,""" start="00:04:58.960" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The goal and the hope for all of this""" start="00:05:01.960" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is that we're being verbose about our thinking anyway.""" start="00:05:05.240" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is sort of how, by default,""" start="00:05:08.360" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""deep reasoning kind of works.""" start="00:05:12.200" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I actually think that I totally agree.""" start="00:05:14.160" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It would be a great fit.""" start="00:05:15.800" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have yet to personally do it,""" start="00:05:17.560" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I've always been just""" start="00:05:19.600" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a little bit wary about, like, you know...""" start="00:05:21.280" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well, if I'm writing a program,""" start="00:05:23.320" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I want to write it, you know?""" start="00:05:25.000" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""People often talk about, like, you know,""" start="00:05:26.880" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""oh, I just want to hand off""" start="00:05:29.240" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the boring parts to Claude.""" start="00:05:31.920" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But the thing is, if I'm writing an e-list,""" start="00:05:34.160" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I find the whole thing to be kind of fun.""" start="00:05:36.520" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""be super, um, it would be super interested in, you know,""" start="00:05:39.480" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just sort of as a point of exercise,""" start="00:05:46.080" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like seeing what it's capable of.""" start="00:05:48.160" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Because I think, I really do think""" start="00:05:49.480" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that this would be kind of an ideal environment.""" start="00:05:51.480" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It is kind of close to, you know,""" start="00:05:54.120" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""native-ish, how LLMs think.""" start="00:05:55.880" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's also, like, you know, of course,""" start="00:05:59.040" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the, um, the privacy angle.""" start="00:06:01.400" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't necessarily want to provide""" start="00:06:03.480" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a whole bunch of code verbatim that I intend to GPL3.""" start="00:06:05.120" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I believe that Claude kind of has a better policy""" start="00:06:09.320" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in terms of what does and does not become training data.""" start="00:06:15.720" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll have to look into Claude in particular""" start="00:06:20.640" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I feel like that would be my target for it.""" start="00:06:22.440" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yeah, I think that's definitely onto something.""" start="00:06:24.600" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've definitely thought about this.""" start="00:06:29.680" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've definitely been really curious about this.""" start="00:06:31.440" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Next question, do you think every Tapa""" start="00:06:33.760" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""should have its own book club file as well?""" start="00:06:40.280" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Or would you rather keep just one book club file""" start="00:06:42.480" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in the top of the project?""" start="00:06:45.560" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I think that I definitely would advise""" start="00:06:46.560" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that each Tapa have its own book club file.""" start="00:06:51.560" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The reason being is because I find that for me personally,""" start="00:06:54.880" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the way that my brain kind of works""" start="00:06:59.480" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is that out of sight, out of mind is very literal for me.""" start="00:07:00.800" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I find that I find that. What am I thinking of?""" start="00:07:06.240" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sorry, I just saw that I got an email""" start="00:07:13.520" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I'm like, yeah, okay, cool.""" start="00:07:19.960" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Case in point, right? We are at case in point, you know,""" start="00:07:22.800" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""out of sight, out of mind. Yes, no, absolutely.""" start="00:07:27.320" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, no, exactly. I, um, I'm definitely quite ADHD""" start="00:07:30.520" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it works for my advantage""" start="00:07:35.800" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it provides all sorts of versatility.""" start="00:07:36.880" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is another great advantage of book club.""" start="00:07:38.960" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you have an ADHD mind like I do where, you know,""" start="00:07:42.440" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You love jumping around and working on""" start="00:07:46.400" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""all sorts of different pieces simultaneously.""" start="00:07:48.320" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You don't like sitting down""" start="00:07:51.520" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and doing the same thing all day""" start="00:07:53.000" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""unless it really latches onto you.""" start="00:07:54.520" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You know, you can pivot and you don't do anything.""" start="00:07:57.240" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It really rewards the fact that you can pivot.""" start="00:07:59.760" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I find that to be really excellent.""" start="00:08:02.560" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But to go back to the original a question,""" start="00:08:06.040" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I would definitely recommend,""" start="00:08:08.360" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""at least in my circumstance,""" start="00:08:11.520" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I find it to be incredibly useful""" start="00:08:13.760" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to have each tapa be its own book club file""" start="00:08:15.680" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""rather than to have a unified file""" start="00:08:19.200" video="qanda-bookclub-tapas" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that holds all of your tapas. 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(US/Eastern)</div><div class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~1:45 PM - 2:20 PM CST (US/Central)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~12:45 PM - 1:20 PM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~11:45 AM - 12:20 PM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~7:45 PM - 8:20 PM UTC <br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~8:45 PM - 9:20 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~9:45 PM - 10:20 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~1:15 AM - 1:50 AM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~3:45 AM - 4:20 AM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~4:45 AM - 5:20 AM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><strong><a href="/2025/watch/gen/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></strong></div> +Status: TO_REVIEW_QA + +# Talk + <div class="vid mainVideo"><video controls preload="none" id="mainVideo-bookclub-tapas"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--main.webm" />captions="""<track 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Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="mainVideo-bookclub-tapas" data=""" -00:00:00.620 Introduction +00:00.620 Introduction 00:29.680 Hi, I'm Maddie! 01:03.840 Bookclub Tapas 02:00.520 Bookclub @@ -38,6 +34,10 @@ Status: Q&A open for participation 28:36.100 What else does Bookclub Tapas do? 29:08.160 Let's work together -"""]]<div></div>Duration: 31:25 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-bookclub-tapas">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-bookclub-tapas.html">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--main.opus">Download --main.opus (27MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--main.webm">Download --main.webm (74MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--script.org">Download --script.org</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--split.txt">Download --split.txt</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/GAOZzrm6ecA">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> +"""]]<div></div>Duration: 31:25 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-bookclub-tapas">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--main.opus">Download --main.opus (27MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--main.webm">Download --main.webm (74MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--script.org">Download --script.org</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--split.txt">Download --split.txt</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/GAOZzrm6ecA">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> + +# Q&A + +<div class="vid qanda"><div></div><div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-bookclub-tapas">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--answers.json">Download --answers.json</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--answers.m4v">Download --answers.m4v (100MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--answers.tsv">Download --answers.tsv</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--answers.txt">Download --answers.txt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--answers.vtt">Download --answers.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-bookclub-tapas--bookclub-tapas--maddie-sullivan--answers.webm">Download --answers.webm (107MB)</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/bookclub-tapas-nav.md b/2025/info/bookclub-tapas-nav.md index cd9e1a88..9cc95b9c 100644 --- a/2025/info/bookclub-tapas-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/bookclub-tapas-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/gardening">Gardening in Emacs: A Windows user's tale of tending, tweaking, and triumph</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/sun-close">Sunday closing remarks</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/gardening">Gardening in Emacs: A Windows user's tale of tending, tweaking, and triumph</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/schemacs">One year progress update Schemacs (formerly Gypsum)</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/calc-before.md b/2025/info/calc-before.md index 8e5c5bd5..34fe5808 100644 --- a/2025/info/calc-before.md +++ b/2025/info/calc-before.md @@ -1,14 +1,8 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sat 2025-12-06. 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href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-calc">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-gen">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-calc--basic-calc-functionality-for-engineering-or-electronics--christopher-howard--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-calc--basic-calc-functionality-for-engineering-or-electronics--christopher-howard--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-calc--basic-calc-functionality-for-engineering-or-electronics--christopher-howard--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-calc--basic-calc-functionality-for-engineering-or-electronics--christopher-howard--main.opus">Download --main.opus (20MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-calc--basic-calc-functionality-for-engineering-or-electronics--christopher-howard--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-calc--basic-calc-functionality-for-engineering-or-electronics--christopher-howard--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-calc--basic-calc-functionality-for-engineering-or-electronics--christopher-howard--main.webm">Download --main.webm (56MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/MAc6gCUHjOw">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> +"""]]<div></div>Duration: 23:35 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-calc">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-calc--basic-calc-functionality-for-engineering-or-electronics--christopher-howard--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a 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Please e-mail [emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org](mailto:emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20commonlisp%3A%20Common%20Lisp%20images%20communicating%20like-a-human%20through%20shared%20Emacs%20slime%20and%20eev) +<div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="commonlisp-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""Recording started.""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Great. All right, you are live in Common Lisp on dev.""" start="00:00:04.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is Corwin back and I've got screwlisp with me,""" start="00:00:07.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the host of the Lispy Gopher... Climate, I like to say.""" start="00:00:14.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It used to be show.""" start="00:00:18.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The Lispy Gopher show or the Lispy Gopher Climate.""" start="00:00:20.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you so much for joining us. Minutes.""" start="00:00:24.680" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, we're just, we've got already""" start="00:00:31.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a whole pad full of questions""" start="00:00:33.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and we have a unique opportunity if you,""" start="00:00:35.360" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you check out the etherpad,""" start="00:00:38.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you'll see some instructions there to join on Lambda Moo,""" start="00:00:39.160" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which screwless,""" start="00:00:42.240" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I'm hoping you will talk to us a little bit about that""" start="00:00:43.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as well as your, your very cool project.""" start="00:00:46.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh yeah, so I main on Lambda, as Corwin is saying.""" start="00:00:48.880" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And Corwin was pretending not to know the name of the show,""" start="00:00:52.840" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but he has in fact appeared on an episode of it""" start="00:00:55.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in January this year, I think.""" start="00:00:59.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So he was just pretending there. I'm screwless of this.""" start="00:01:00.880" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What's happening?""" start="00:01:04.920" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""10 minutes or less before we started going live here,""" start="00:01:06.920" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""they were like, remember how you said you fixed that bug?""" start="00:01:13.440" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then I had to quickly recapitulate my whole talk.""" start="00:01:16.160" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I introduced some new bugs while that was happening.""" start="00:01:21.480" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But let's go through some of these questions.""" start="00:01:23.720" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We're all hanging out in LambdaMoo.""" start="00:01:26.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if you mx telnet over to lambda.moo.mud.org port 8888.""" start="00:01:29.480" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is where we're talking at the moment""" start="00:01:37.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with people like Ed Swarthout, DM, and yduJ,""" start="00:01:40.280" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""who I gossiped about in the show,""" start="00:01:45.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and Sasha, and people were there a little bit as well.""" start="00:01:47.560" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm just going to read some of the questions""" start="00:01:50.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that GGXX in Lambdomoo has been relaying to me there,""" start="00:01:53.360" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""though I hear that there are a whole bunch of them now.""" start="00:01:59.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Someone asks on the Etherpad,""" start="00:02:08.240" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what do you mean when I say the agent is running slowly?""" start="00:02:09.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, so if you saw in the talk,""" start="00:02:13.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I was having the agent only attempt""" start="00:02:17.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to act every 20 seconds.""" start="00:02:19.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is what I mean by the agent is acting slowly.""" start="00:02:21.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So this is quite different""" start="00:02:25.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to what people might expect within AI""" start="00:02:26.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if people are talking about like the graphics card ones""" start="00:02:28.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where you're trying crunch as fast as you can""" start="00:02:30.680" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for as few seconds as you can, and then you stop.""" start="00:02:33.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In contrast, my agent is just trying to do""" start="00:02:36.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a simple action every 20 seconds.""" start="00:02:39.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But if you keep going continuously""" start="00:02:42.280" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""at a simple action every 20 seconds""" start="00:02:45.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""without sleeping for days,""" start="00:02:47.920" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it still adds up to a lot.""" start="00:02:49.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that was the significance of it running slowly.""" start="00:02:51.240" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What else are people saying? TGXX to screwtape.""" start="00:02:57.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Someone asked on the Etherpad,""" start="00:03:00.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""do you think that it would be too hard""" start="00:03:02.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to add a second way""" start="00:03:04.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to send commands from Common Lisps to Emacs?""" start="00:03:06.440" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""No, I put three of them together""" start="00:03:09.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I didn't talk about it""" start="00:03:12.920" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because this is a kind of affected choice.""" start="00:03:14.560" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Right now you're using Emacs client for that.""" start="00:03:17.240" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That is the simplest way to implement.""" start="00:03:20.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""How about using the slime protocol?""" start="00:03:22.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Elsewhere, I am just using the SLIME protocol.""" start="00:03:24.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, in everyone that's SLIME-connected.""" start="00:03:28.800" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, earlier on, you saw somebody""" start="00:03:31.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""running a SWANK server in Python.""" start="00:03:33.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Normally, you run a SWANK server in Common Lisp.""" start="00:03:35.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And a SWANK server is what Emacs SLIME,""" start="00:03:38.440" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Superior Lisp Interaction Mode for Emacs, connects to.""" start="00:03:41.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then Swank comes with Swank Eval and Emacs.""" start="00:03:45.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So after you've been slime connected,""" start="00:03:49.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can trivially send Emacs Lisp forms to Emacs""" start="00:03:50.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""using Swank Eval and Emacs.""" start="00:03:55.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The reason that I chose to use""" start="00:03:57.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Emacs server and Emacs client""" start="00:04:00.680" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""was that I was letting the Leonardo agent""" start="00:04:05.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""talk to Emacs using Swank, Eval, and Emacs.""" start="00:04:14.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I wanted my ECL image to be using""" start="00:04:18.800" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a different notion of a server.""" start="00:04:21.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So the ECL image, just because""" start="00:04:23.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I chose to do it like this,""" start="00:04:27.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is using Emacs client and Emacs server going via,""" start="00:04:28.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I guess it's executing a program""" start="00:04:33.280" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""rather than using a shell.""" 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video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""instead of get foo quote bar.""" start="00:05:00.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, that was Sandewall's choice.""" start="00:05:02.440" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""He was trying to pitch Lisp""" start="00:05:04.360" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to logic notation people,""" start="00:05:06.680" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so he lets people put commas in""" start="00:05:09.160" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then ignores them in certain expressions,""" start="00:05:12.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and he doesn't have these Lisp-style quotes.""" start="00:05:15.560" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Idaj is obviously from like Schlumberger""" start="00:05:18.680" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and wherever else she was at in""" start="00:05:22.440" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in the kind of list of traditions.""" start="00:05:24.880" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Full of Spain is saying good observation.""" start="00:05:28.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yidaj is shocked that she's being mentioned.""" start="00:05:30.360" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Interestingly Nosredna yduJ capitalizes Nosredna at the front,""" start="00:05:33.840" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but she capitalizes yduJ at the back, just for clarity.""" start="00:05:40.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You should read her Stanford page or her recipe site""" start="00:05:45.080" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or anything if you're not clear on who yduJ is.""" start="00:05:49.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's actually you're looking for the word eclipsed.""" start="00:05:58.000" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think she eclipsed a dodge,""" start="00:06:00.680" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think is the English phrase that you're looking for.""" start="00:06:03.560" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""He does just saying she would not.""" start="00:06:06.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""She's no matter what I say""" start="00:06:08.840" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""she's not going to hug my software agent""" start="00:06:10.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like she would hug a grandchild eyes me warily.""" start="00:06:13.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And Sasha is not going to.""" start="00:06:20.720" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Totally not training a general intelligence""" start="00:06:22.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""who requires a lot of data""" start="00:06:24.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and also cuddles. Okay, so everybody who has children""" start="00:06:26.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is disagreeing with me quoting Sandewall,""" start="00:06:28.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""who did have children and grandchildren,""" start="00:06:31.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""saying that he wanted machine intelligences""" start="00:06:33.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to be like his grandchild.""" start="00:06:36.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""GGXX is saying somebody on Etherpad""" start="00:06:37.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is asking what the Leonardo system is.""" start="00:06:40.840" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sandewall is a LISP scientist""" start="00:06:43.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 90s, 10s.""" start="00:06:46.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with things like bronze statues of him in Sweden.""" start="00:06:51.160" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""People outside of the Swedish-speaking sphere of science""" start="00:06:55.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are less familiar with him.""" start="00:06:59.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I guess he famously taught Robert Strand""" start="00:07:01.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how to program in LISP, if that places him for you.""" start="00:07:04.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What else did he do?""" start="00:07:08.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, so he was on a kind of long trajectory of AI,""" start="00:07:10.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which would now be called good old-fashioned AI.""" start="00:07:15.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And he was coming from the situation calculus,""" start="00:07:18.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then activity calculus kind of direction,""" start="00:07:22.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which are extended first order logics""" start="00:07:26.560" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for reasoning about change over time.""" start="00:07:28.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And his last program he contributed to the world was this.""" start="00:07:31.560" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""From 2005 to 2014, he worked on""" start="00:07:35.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this Leonardo system for his master's program.""" start="00:07:39.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""He was teaching at that time""" start="00:07:43.480" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""at the University of Linköping in Sweden.""" start="00:07:45.280" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And... Then he just kind of gradually faded from view""" start="00:07:48.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""while he wrote his unpublished books""" start="00:07:53.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on reasoning and change, I guess, between 2010 and 2014.""" start="00:07:55.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then I just kind of noticed this eventually.""" start="00:08:01.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I brought that software back. And that's what this is.""" start="00:08:03.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that's why it kind of weirdly exists.""" start="00:08:07.840" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Welcome to Khaki Guest. Magenta Guest is gone.""" start="00:08:10.000" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Pink Guest is gone.""" start="00:08:15.480" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Blue Guest has arrived. Great. Somebody order six.""" start="00:08:16.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Everybody orders sake from Emily.""" start="00:08:23.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We're hanging out in Jay Lamott's sushi bar in Lambda,""" start="00:08:26.240" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is on the model railway""" start="00:08:29.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on the table in the second guest bedroom in Lambda House""" start="00:08:31.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where we're all hanging out.""" start="00:08:35.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, I think GGXX is ordering people up things.""" start="00:08:36.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You know, just teach people about this.""" start="00:08:43.560" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, I'm going to try looking""" start="00:08:46.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""at the etherpad manually. Sorry, I can read you.""" start="00:08:52.280" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So the next question you have,""" start="00:08:55.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""somebody says, I found Eduardo's blog.""" start="00:08:57.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""OK, you just got through that.""" start="00:09:00.480" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then we were also, a question you answered""" start="00:09:03.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is the other one that I see here, just about Lambda Moo.""" start="00:09:06.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I think you started to answer in the pad.""" start="00:09:10.800" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But if you want to kind of read that out.""" start="00:09:14.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I definitely haven't written anything in the pad.""" start="00:09:16.080" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm going to just talk to Khaki Guest in Lambda.""" start="00:09:19.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sure, so why don't you do a little bit""" start="00:09:23.720" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and just read this question.""" start="00:09:25.880" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The question was, what is LambdaMOO and how do we use it?""" start="00:09:27.280" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""LambdaMOO is a module introduction,""" start="00:09:31.280" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you can tell that to it.""" start="00:09:33.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's instructions in the pad.""" start="00:09:35.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll go ahead and drop that in the gen channel""" start="00:09:36.800" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or in the dev channel chat right now.""" start="00:09:40.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I see it is already in there.""" start="00:09:42.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But down at the bottom""" start="00:09:46.920" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the discussion links feedback area,""" start="00:09:49.560" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you'll see a set of detailed instructions""" start="00:09:53.440" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that ScrewList has provided us to get in there.""" start="00:09:55.680" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think that was actually GGXX""" start="00:09:58.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""who might have written that for us.""" start="00:10:01.160" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Several changes evolved in the last 10 minutes""" start="00:10:03.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""before we went live here.""" start="00:10:08.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yeah, so LambdaMoo is""" start="00:10:09.680" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the world's longest-running virtual reality.""" start="00:10:12.840" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I guess it started in the end of October in 1990""" start="00:10:14.880" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and has run continuously to today.""" start="00:10:19.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can get there, ideally, with a MUD client.""" start="00:10:21.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Technically, it's a MUD, comma, object-oriented.""" start="00:10:24.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is just where I hang out some degree of the week.""" start="00:10:27.480" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""yduJ is the wizard yduJ, or sorry,""" start="00:10:30.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""yduJ is also the wizard Nosredna of Lambdomoo, for example.""" start="00:10:36.800" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It kind of fits into quite less history.""" start="00:10:40.920" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I guess Pavel Curtis would have started in 1990""" start="00:10:44.480" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for Xerox PARC, originally. Just to go to what Khaki Guest""" start="00:10:47.680" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""has been continuing to talk about.""" start="00:10:52.800" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Welcome to Brown, Guest, as well, I guess.""" start="00:10:54.840" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Aki Guest says, to Screwtape,""" start="00:10:57.800" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it seems like you're trying to build""" start="00:11:03.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a more restrictive Turing test""" start="00:11:04.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""using the input output logs of an Emacs conversation.""" start="00:11:07.280" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Is that accurate?""" start="00:11:11.160" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Can you explain this idea of if it is intelligent,""" start="00:11:12.160" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'd like it to be like me?""" start="00:11:15.080" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Otherwise, I don't know what intelligence is.""" start="00:11:17.240" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Doesn't that seem a little egocentric?""" start="00:11:20.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Is that a joke or a genuine definition of intelligence?""" start="00:11:21.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Why do you think the link between""" start="00:11:25.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""input-output of Emacs human input-output""" start="00:11:27.440" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is stronger than other forms of Turing tests?""" start="00:11:30.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I'm going to misread Turing tests""" start="00:11:33.920" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for a moment as Turing-complete.""" start="00:11:36.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And Sandewall's system is very specifically""" start="00:11:37.840" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Our first-order logic, if we don't extend it,""" start="00:11:40.280" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is not Turing-complete, for starters.""" start="00:11:45.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And things like situation calculus,""" start="00:11:49.240" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""McCarthy's situation calculus,""" start="00:11:51.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which I guess is prior to""" start="00:11:53.840" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sandewall's Leonardo's calculus,""" start="00:11:55.240" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are extended first-order logics""" start="00:11:58.440" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for reasoning about change.""" start="00:12:02.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so they're slightly""" start="00:12:03.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""more restricted than conventional,""" start="00:12:05.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""than general-purpose computer programs.""" start="00:12:07.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then what you're saying is, if it's intelligent,""" start="00:12:10.240" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'd expect it to be like me.""" start="00:12:14.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm really just paraphrasing what Sandewall says about,""" start="00:12:16.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""well, he thinks his grandchildren are intelligent.""" start="00:12:19.800" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if a computer is intelligent,""" start="00:12:23.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""he thinks the computer will have to be""" start="00:12:24.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""similar to his grandchildren.""" start="00:12:26.240" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is in contrast to people""" start="00:12:28.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""who are using the terms AI""" start="00:12:32.280" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to mean something a graphics card does""" start="00:12:33.840" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with extremely specialized bulk matrix multiplication""" start="00:12:37.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for a very short period of time""" start="00:12:41.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on absolutely gigantic electrical""" start="00:12:43.920" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and kind of memory and computing resources,""" start="00:12:47.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which doesn't look at all like what""" start="00:12:50.160" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sandewall's grandchildren were doing.""" start="00:12:51.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And this is why I'm kind of saying,""" start="00:12:55.000" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""well, if I have an agent,""" start="00:12:56.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And my agent is quite simple.""" start="00:12:57.560" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It uses Emacs server and Emacs client""" start="00:13:00.840" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to send lines of basically extended""" start="00:13:04.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""first-order logic to the agent,""" start="00:13:07.560" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the agent then takes a kind of""" start="00:13:09.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""first-order logic-y action.""" start="00:13:12.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I was making the point""" start="00:13:15.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that this looks more like me computing""" start="00:13:21.080" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""using of REPL-driven development like EEV,""" start="00:13:23.480" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where in EEV I have basically a log""" start="00:13:27.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of something I've previously done,""" start="00:13:30.480" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I can tap F8 and execute""" start="00:13:32.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""line after line after line.""" start="00:13:34.240" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I think if I see an agent doing that,""" start="00:13:36.480" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can clearly understand""" start="00:13:38.840" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and relate to what the agent is doing.""" start="00:13:40.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so I'm not classifying""" start="00:13:43.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like, I never do gigabytes and gigabytes""" start="00:13:45.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and gigabytes of matrix multiplications,""" start="00:13:49.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I can't relate to this as an idea of intelligence.""" start="00:13:52.280" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sorry. Welcome to GreenGuest teleporting in.""" start="00:13:54.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""FullSpain is saying, no one truly knows what intelligence is.""" start="00:13:57.920" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right. I kind of wished that this was working,""" start="00:14:02.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because just before we went live, they said,""" start="00:14:10.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""hey, just have your example working quickly.""" start="00:14:13.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Then I downloaded my example from my blog,""" start="00:14:15.920" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I'd double escaped some characters""" start="00:14:19.000" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that the escaped characters would show up in my blog.""" start="00:14:22.480" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I caused a lot of rampant chaos.""" start="00:14:26.800" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If anyone else has a question.""" start="00:14:29.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Guest has said, but. So. Great.""" start="00:14:32.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I guess I could go back and try it.""" start="00:14:40.760" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I probably should have jumped in a couple of minutes ago""" start="00:14:47.280" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and just said the live stream did cut over,""" start="00:14:50.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but we're continuing to record this""" start="00:14:53.280" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the whole session will be published""" start="00:14:54.920" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""along with the video on the website.""" start="00:14:57.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, well. Sorry about that. I tried that.""" start="00:14:58.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I just lost a couple of minutes there""" start="00:15:04.080" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and failed to give you the smooth morning.""" start="00:15:06.800" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, no, no. That's fine. I was just kind of rambling.""" start="00:15:08.880" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Listen. Don't download a web page""" start="00:15:14.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and try and convert it to an org file on the fly""" start="00:15:16.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and just before you go live somewhere""" start="00:15:19.800" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is the kind of moral here.""" start="00:15:21.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You know, just saying that's pretty graphics, but it's long.""" start="00:15:23.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""She's dropping. See you later. Yeah.""" start="00:15:27.800" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's, let's, let's all get out of here.""" start="00:15:29.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Basically. I'm going to go see""" start="00:15:31.240" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if I can look at this ether pad one last time""" start="00:15:32.400" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and see if there are any questions""" start="00:15:36.160" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just to not leave anyone else.""" start="00:15:37.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Anyone out much to their chagrin possibly.""" start="00:15:39.360" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um, how to connect to LambdaMu, seems great.""" start="00:15:43.560" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, interesting guides, somebody wrote that.""" start="00:15:47.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What do you mean by slowly? Yeah, so I'm saying taking""" start="00:15:52.160" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a simple action every 20 seconds,""" start="00:15:55.440" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this still adds up to a lot over time.""" start="00:15:57.280" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Question, do you think that it would be,""" start="00:15:59.080" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""yeah, well, if you've used Slime,""" start="00:16:01.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and hence you're using Swank,""" start="00:16:04.080" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can just Swank, Eval,""" start="00:16:05.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and Emacs would be the more trivial way.""" start="00:16:07.240" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I felt like I was getting something bonus""" start="00:16:08.840" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""by using, um, Emacs server.""" start="00:16:10.720" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Somebody has a link to Eduardo's blog,""" start="00:16:13.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which I think has been misspelled.""" start="00:16:17.360" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It should be angkwu with no dot there,""" start="00:16:19.840" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""dot net, sharp sign EEV.""" start="00:16:23.080" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, Eduardo is the author of EEV mode.""" start="00:16:27.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I found Eduardo's thing.""" start="00:16:31.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, this was the question, what is the Leonardo system,""" start="00:16:33.080" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which I just answered.""" start="00:16:36.200" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What is LambdaMOO? How do you use it?""" start="00:16:38.480" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's a mud, comma, object-oriented.""" start="00:16:42.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it's a multi-user dungeon kind of classical video game,""" start="00:16:45.560" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""still popular, but with extended object-oriented facilities.""" start="00:16:49.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Companies like Harlequin, which yduJ""" start="00:16:52.800" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and Ken Pitman, for example, were at, I think, in the 90s.""" start="00:16:57.360" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Instead of modernly, you'd have Slack web apps or something.""" start="00:17:00.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""People used to have these MOOs and things.""" start="00:17:05.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, the music that's replaced me is evidently quite nice.""" start="00:17:08.080" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, get the hints. Thanks for being here.""" start="00:17:15.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well, let's continue this diatribe""" start="00:17:22.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""possibly on the Mastodon or something like that.""" start="00:17:29.360" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We'll do some kind of...""" start="00:17:33.640" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me thank you one more time for preparing this talk""" start="00:17:36.000" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and for all that you do for the Free Software community""" start="00:17:40.520" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and especially for Emacs. particularly appreciate you.""" start="00:17:44.360" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you for all you do for the Free Software community""" start="00:17:47.880" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and particularly Emacs, Corwin and Bruce.""" start="00:17:50.440" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm still waiting for a working demo of Dungeon Mode.""" start="00:17:53.320" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""My joke that I was setting up and never had a chance for""" start="00:17:56.080" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""was that I was going to say""" start="00:17:58.560" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I wanted my agent to be using Dungeon Mode in Emacs.""" start="00:17:59.960" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""How's that? Okay, well, we'll work on that.""" start="00:18:03.600" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That could be a project for the two of us in our copious free time.""" start="00:18:06.000" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Definitely. Yeah. Okay. I'll let you go.""" start="00:18:10.120" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm gonna abandon this stream.""" start="00:18:13.560" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right. I'll end out the recording""" start="00:18:14.680" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and thanks to all who participated. Okay. See you later.""" start="00:18:17.040" video="qanda-commonlisp" id="subtitle"]] + +</div>Questions or comments? Please e-mail [emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org](mailto:emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20commonlisp%3A%20Common%20Lisp%20images%20communicating%20like-a-human%20through%20shared%20Emacs%20slime%20and%20eev) <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-after-page --> diff --git a/2025/info/commonlisp-before.md b/2025/info/commonlisp-before.md index dd88acf3..099e4f98 100644 --- a/2025/info/commonlisp-before.md +++ b/2025/info/commonlisp-before.md @@ -1,19 +1,19 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sat 2025-12-06. Solid lines show talks with Q&A via BigBlueButton. 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src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--main.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div></div>Duration: 25:56 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-commonlisp">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--debugged.png">Download --debugged.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--main.opus">Download --main.opus (23MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--main.org">Download --main.org</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--main.webm">Download --main.webm (63MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/hy5i6Qb6fYE">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> +# Q&A -<div class="vid mainVideo"><video controls preload="none" id="mainVideo-commonlisp"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-commonlisp--common-lisp-images-communicating-likeahuman-through-shared-emacs-slime-and-eev--screwlisp--main.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. 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Please e-mail [paaguti@gmail.com](mailto:paaguti@gmail.com?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20completion%3A%20corfu%2Byasnippet%3A%20Easier%20than%20I%20thought) +<div class="transcript transcript-mainVideo"><a name="completion-mainVideo-transcript"></a><h1>Transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""Nice to have you here on this talk.""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is my second talk this year.""" start="00:00:02.320" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""First one was on things that I've done to Org Mode.""" start="00:00:04.520" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Just as a side note, this presentation""" start="00:00:09.920" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I'm going to share with you""" start="00:00:13.800" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about my work on Corfu and Jasnipit.""" start="00:00:16.280" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've prepared that on Org Mode""" start="00:00:19.880" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and exported that with a work I've been doing""" start="00:00:21.840" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to the latest exporter.""" start="00:00:25.080" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Anyhow, what is my talk going to be about?""" start="00:00:26.840" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's going to be about Corfu and Yasnippet,""" start="00:00:31.960" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which I thought would be difficult to integrate,""" start="00:00:34.600" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it was much easier than I thought.""" start="00:00:36.600" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So just a short outline, my motivation,""" start="00:00:42.800" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""step-by-step of the things that I've been investigating,""" start="00:00:46.960" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and some takeaways. So my motivation, yeah, snippet is old.""" start="00:00:49.960" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I've tried another, I've tried Temple""" start="00:00:55.920" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and other template management packages,""" start="00:00:59.600" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it was really not my cup of tea. So mainly why?""" start="00:01:02.520" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Mainly because I have a nice base of VR snippets""" start="00:01:08.160" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have generated for my needs.""" start="00:01:10.920" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it's not that I've been importing snippets""" start="00:01:14.480" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from packages which are out there.""" start="00:01:17.800" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""No, they are my snippets. I'm used to them.""" start="00:01:20.360" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And of course, migration counts as a cost.""" start="00:01:23.600" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've been using Company as my completion point function GUI for years,""" start="00:01:26.560" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but with the time coming in features and so on it""" start="00:01:32.640" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""was it's was not as easy to set up as I wanted for my needs""" start="00:01:38.920" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I had been working I've been playing with Eaglet already some time for a language server protocol""" start="00:01:44.360" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I had read about how easy it was to integrate with Corfu""" start="00:01:53.120" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which was really nice and I had given it a try,""" start="00:01:57.040" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I'm using both graphical user interface mode in Emacs""" start="00:02:02.840" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and text mode,""" start="00:02:06.440" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and for text mode you need a corporate terminal,""" start="00:02:07.840" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which was yet another package that I don't download.""" start="00:02:10.320" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well, and I didn't really find a quick way""" start="00:02:16.400" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to get rid of company to get just snippet.""" start="00:02:21.480" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So at the end, when, at the beginning,""" start="00:02:24.480" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when I was using Corfu and Eglot, I also needed to load a company""" start="00:02:26.680" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to have a snippet support,""" start="00:02:33.960" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which was really like sort of weird""" start="00:02:35.760" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I wanted to get rid of, of your snippet.""" start="00:02:37.640" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Anyhow, while I try now, I'm following the mailing list,""" start="00:02:40.560" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the development mailing list,""" start="00:02:47.200" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I got interested when I heard something about""" start="00:02:48.560" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""TTI charge frames being announced for master.""" start="00:02:51.800" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That would mean less packages to download""" start="00:02:57.120" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I thought I could get rid of Corfu,""" start="00:02:59.600" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I wanted to try if I could get rid of Corfu terminal""" start="00:03:04.160" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and run Corfu without that.""" start="00:03:07.360" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, there were some hints there in that mailing list""" start="00:03:11.200" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that made it interesting for me.""" start="00:03:18.800" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And at the end, I'm also like a why not trying man,""" start="00:03:21.880" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I said let's give it a try.""" start="00:03:26.640" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""My requirements, I'm working always on a new Emacs,""" start="00:03:29.120" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a decently new Emacs, normally from Master Vanilla.""" start="00:03:33.480" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""completely Vanilla and I don't have any extras like Doom or things like that.""" start="00:03:36.760" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I'm only Vanilla. And one of the things""" start="00:03:42.560" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I don't want is that on this Vanilla recent Emacs,""" start="00:03:45.520" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't want a Kung Fu Terminal. I need your snippet.""" start="00:03:50.280" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm basically an old man.""" start="00:03:55.720" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Old dog does new tricks and snippets must,""" start="00:03:57.360" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in my way of working, must be easy and quick to configure""" start="00:04:02.480" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and Tempo or others that I've seen are not.""" start="00:04:06.240" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't want any reminiscence of a company in my setup.""" start="00:04:10.480" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And of course, don't forget that I've embraced""" start="00:04:13.920" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the language protocol implementations and basically Eglot.""" start="00:04:18.680" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""My main focus now is Python and LaTeX,""" start="00:04:24.120" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I have PyLSB and TechLab.""" start="00:04:28.160" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I don't want to have to stop using them.""" start="00:04:31.720" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So basic setup for Corfu and Eglot.""" start="00:04:37.600" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can find it everywhere you look for it.""" start="00:04:40.480" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's really easy.""" start="00:04:43.440" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And actually, I also do something somehow naughty,""" start="00:04:46.560" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is to set this variable,""" start="00:04:51.120" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the Corfu auto variable to true,""" start="00:04:53.080" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""although I know it's not recommended, blah, blah, blah.""" start="00:04:55.520" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I use that because I'm a bit lazy in that.""" start="00:04:58.400" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So next step was looking at completion at point functions.""" start="00:05:02.960" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So the information there if you go through the scatter""" start="00:05:07.240" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and sometimes a bit cryptic.""" start="00:05:10.480" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""At the end I came up with something like the thing""" start="00:05:14.000" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you see there on the screen.""" start="00:05:16.600" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it's a function for just completion point""" start="00:05:18.400" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I need my list of keywords""" start="00:05:21.880" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that I'm going to be talking later""" start="00:05:24.640" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I have my bounds which is normally a word""" start="00:05:30.040" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and from that I get the start and the end""" start="00:05:34.400" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the of the thing that I want to""" start="00:05:37.120" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I want to be my seed for looking and bringing up Corfu""" start="00:05:38.920" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and of course I need some completion properties here""" start="00:05:47.320" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This looked like this is what you need to do,""" start="00:05:53.440" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I had to dig quite deep""" start="00:05:55.720" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to create a JavaScript keyword test""" start="00:05:57.520" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and to understand the completion props.""" start="00:06:01.320" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And as an update of what I've been doing in the last weeks,""" start="00:06:04.760" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've created a bound of things""" start="00:06:11.760" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that point for me with a different thing""" start="00:06:13.880" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that doesn't skip over non-blank characters,""" start="00:06:18.680" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that only skips over non-blank characters.""" start="00:06:22.040" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Why? Because Word was confusingly tech,""" start="00:06:25.040" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because the backslash,""" start="00:06:29.000" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like in the example for the teletype text,""" start="00:06:30.760" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""was not taken into account by Word.""" start="00:06:35.000" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I had to create my own one,""" start="00:06:36.920" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which was a bunch of thing at point,""" start="00:06:39.960" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then my thing is non-blanks.""" start="00:06:42.120" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Completion at point properties, what are they?""" start="00:06:44.880" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template 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something""" start="00:07:20.080" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that comes from the company package, but does not require.""" start="00:07:26.760" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that's going to allow NerdEye Conscorfu to identify""" start="00:07:31.000" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and put the right icon there in the completion list,""" start="00:07:39.440" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as you will see in a couple of minutes.""" start="00:07:44.840" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it's a snippet key.""" start="00:07:47.160" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So basically what this is telling you""" start="00:07:50.440" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is that this is a snippet keyword.""" start="00:07:52.600" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""These two lines, either line,""" start="00:07:54.320" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""tell you that this is a snippet keyword.""" start="00:07:56.800" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that it should be added to the other completions""" start="00:08:00.000" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you already have in your list.""" start="00:08:05.280" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Problems looking now next step""" start="00:08:08.080" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""once I had the completion props""" start="00:08:15.480" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which was relatively easy was to go""" start="00:08:19.080" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and get the keyword list right.""" start="00:08:21.440" 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I'm not using the other one.""" start="00:35:07.000" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm using the old plain tab line with my themes.""" start="00:35:15.600" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's more or less everything.""" start="00:35:20.840" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you for the peek into your workflow.""" start="00:35:23.520" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I will work on getting the recordings for the live talks""" start="00:35:26.520" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""sorted out at some point very soon.""" start="00:35:30.760" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I might even be able to get them out next week.""" start="00:35:33.920" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So thanks again. All right. Have a nice supper. Same to you.""" start="00:35:37.840" video="mainVideo-completion" id="subtitle"]] + +</div>Questions or comments? Please e-mail [paaguti@gmail.com](mailto:paaguti@gmail.com?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20completion%3A%20corfu%2Byasnippet%3A%20Easier%20than%20I%20thought) <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-after-page --> diff --git a/2025/info/completion-before.md b/2025/info/completion-before.md index a4733e81..8ebf1db2 100644 --- a/2025/info/completion-before.md +++ b/2025/info/completion-before.md @@ -1,19 +1,13 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sun 2025-12-07. Solid lines show talks with Q&A via BigBlueButton. Dashed lines show talks with Q&A via IRC or Etherpad.<div class="schedule-in-context schedule-svg-container" data-slug="completion"> -<svg width="700" height="150" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"> <title> Schedule for Sunday</title> <rect width="700" height="150" x="0" y="0" fill="white"></rect> <text font-size="10" fill="black" y="12" x="3"> Sunday</text> <a href="/2025/talks/sun-open" title="Sunday opening remarks" data-slug="sun-open"> <title> 9:00- 9:10 Sunday opening remarks</title> <rect x="0" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="13" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(11,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> sun-open</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/modern" title="Some problems of modernizing Emacs" data-slug="modern"> <title> 9:10- 9:30 Some problems of modernizing Emacs</title> <rect x="13" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="27" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(38,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> modern</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/reader" title="An introduction to the Emacs Reader" data-slug="reader"> <title> 9:40-10:15 An introduction to the Emacs Reader</title> <rect x="54" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="48" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(100,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> reader</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/weights" title="Weightlifting tracking with Emacs on Android" data-slug="weights"> <title> 10:35-10:45 Weightlifting tracking with Emacs on Android</title> <rect x="130" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="13" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(141,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> weights</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/completion" title="corfu+yasnippet: Easier than I thought" data-slug="completion"> <title> 11:05-11:25 corfu+yasnippet: Easier than I thought</title> <rect stroke-width="3" x="171" y="15" opacity="0.8" width="27" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(196,73)"> <text font-weight="bold" fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> completion</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/zettelkasten" title="Zettelkasten for regular Emacs hackers" data-slug="zettelkasten"> <title> 1:00- 1:25 Zettelkasten for regular Emacs hackers</title> <rect x="329" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="34" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(361,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> zettelkasten</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/hyperboleqa" title="Questions and answers to help 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tapas</title> <rect x="473" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="48" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(519,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> bookclub-tapas</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/sun-close" title="Sunday closing remarks" data-slug="sun-close"> <title> 3:40- 3:50 Sunday closing remarks</title> <rect x="549" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="13" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(560,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> sun-close</text></g></a> <g transform="translate(0,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 9 AM</text></g> <g transform="translate(82,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 10 AM</text></g> <g transform="translate(164,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 11 AM</text></g> <g transform="translate(247,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 12 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(329,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 1 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(411,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 2 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(494,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 3 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(576,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 4 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(658,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 5 PM</text></g></svg> -</div> - [[!toc ]] -Format: 23-min talk ; Q&A: BigBlueButton conference room <https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-completion.html> Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-completion> +Format: 37-min talk ; Q&A: BigBlueButton conference room Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-completion> Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-completion> -Discuss on IRC: [#emacsconf-gen](https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-gen) -Status: Q&A open for participation -<div>Times in different time zones:</div><div class="times" start="2025-12-07T16:05:00Z" end="2025-12-07T16:25:00Z"><div class="conf-time">Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~11:05 AM - 11:25 AM EST (US/Eastern)</div><div class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~10:05 AM - 10:25 AM CST (US/Central)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~9:05 AM - 9:25 AM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~8:05 AM - 8:25 AM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~4:05 PM - 4:25 PM UTC <br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~5:05 PM - 5:25 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~6:05 PM - 6:25 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~9:35 PM - 9:55 PM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~12:05 AM - 12:25 AM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~1:05 AM - 1:25 AM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><strong><a href="/2025/watch/gen/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></strong></div> +Status: TO_REVIEW_QA + -<div class="vid mainVideo"><video controls preload="none" id="mainVideo-completion"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--backup.webm" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div></div>Duration: 22:42 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-completion">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-completion.html">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--backup.webm">Download --backup.webm (30MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--handout.pdf">Download --handout.pdf</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li></ul></div></div> +<div class="vid mainVideo"><video controls preload="none" id="mainVideo-completion"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--original.m4v" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--main.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div></div>Duration: 36:04 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-completion">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--backup.webm">Download --backup.webm (30MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--handout.pdf">Download --handout.pdf</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--main.m4v">Download --main.m4v (95MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--main.opus">Download --main.opus (5.2MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-completion--corfuyasnippet-easier-than-i-thought--pedro-a-aranda-gutirrez--main.webm">Download --main.webm (48MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/vf-jntWJHBA">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/completion-nav.md b/2025/info/completion-nav.md index 6e648706..2305904c 100644 --- a/2025/info/completion-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/completion-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/weights">Weightlifting tracking with Emacs on Android</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/zettelkasten">Zettelkasten for regular Emacs hackers</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/weights">Weightlifting tracking with Emacs on Android</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/zettelkasten">Zettelkasten for regular Emacs hackers</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/gardening-before.md b/2025/info/gardening-before.md index d94f7b4e..3bbaf7f9 100644 --- a/2025/info/gardening-before.md +++ b/2025/info/gardening-before.md @@ -1,15 +1,9 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sun 2025-12-07. Solid lines show talks with Q&A via BigBlueButton. Dashed lines show talks with Q&A via IRC or Etherpad.<div class="schedule-in-context schedule-svg-container" data-slug="gardening"> -<svg width="700" height="150" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"> <title> Schedule for Sunday</title> <rect width="700" height="150" x="0" y="0" fill="white"></rect> <text font-size="10" fill="black" y="12" x="3"> Sunday</text> <a href="/2025/talks/sun-open" title="Sunday opening remarks" data-slug="sun-open"> <title> 9:00- 9:10 Sunday opening remarks</title> <rect x="0" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="13" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(11,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> sun-open</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/modern" title="Some problems of modernizing Emacs" data-slug="modern"> <title> 9:10- 9:30 Some problems of modernizing Emacs</title> <rect x="13" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="27" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(38,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> modern</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/reader" title="An introduction to the Emacs Reader" data-slug="reader"> <title> 9:40-10:15 An introduction to the Emacs Reader</title> <rect x="54" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="48" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(100,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> reader</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/weights" title="Weightlifting tracking with Emacs on Android" data-slug="weights"> <title> 10:35-10:45 Weightlifting tracking with Emacs on Android</title> <rect x="130" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="13" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(141,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> weights</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/completion" title="corfu+yasnippet: Easier than I thought" data-slug="completion"> <title> 11:05-11:25 corfu+yasnippet: Easier than I thought</title> <rect x="171" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="27" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(196,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> completion</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/zettelkasten" title="Zettelkasten for regular Emacs hackers" data-slug="zettelkasten"> <title> 1:00- 1:25 Zettelkasten for regular Emacs hackers</title> <rect x="329" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="34" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(361,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> zettelkasten</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/hyperboleqa" title="Questions and answers to help you fly with Hyperbole" data-slug="hyperboleqa"> <title> 1:45- 2:15 Questions and answers to help you fly with Hyperbole</title> <rect x="391" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="41" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(430,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> hyperboleqa</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/gardening" title="Gardening in Emacs: A Windows user's tale of tending, tweaking, and triumph" data-slug="gardening"> <title> 2:15- 2:35 Gardening in Emacs: A Windows user's tale of tending, tweaking, and triumph</title> <rect stroke-width="3" x="432" y="15" opacity="0.8" width="27" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(457,73)"> <text font-weight="bold" fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> gardening</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/bookclub-tapas" title="Bookclub tapas" data-slug="bookclub-tapas"> <title> 2:45- 3:20 Bookclub tapas</title> <rect x="473" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="48" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(519,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> bookclub-tapas</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/sun-close" title="Sunday closing remarks" data-slug="sun-close"> <title> 3:40- 3:50 Sunday closing remarks</title> <rect x="549" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="13" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(560,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> sun-close</text></g></a> <g transform="translate(0,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 9 AM</text></g> <g transform="translate(82,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 10 AM</text></g> <g transform="translate(164,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 11 AM</text></g> <g transform="translate(247,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 12 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(329,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 1 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(411,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 2 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(494,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 3 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(576,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 4 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(658,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 5 PM</text></g></svg> -</div> - [[!toc ]] Format: 18-min talk ; Q&A: ask questions via Etherpad/IRC; we'll e-mail the speaker and post answers on this wiki page after the conference Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-gardening> Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-gardening> -Discuss on IRC: [#emacsconf-gen](https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-gen) -Status: Q&A open for participation -<div>Times in different time zones:</div><div class="times" start="2025-12-07T19:15:00Z" end="2025-12-07T19:35:00Z"><div class="conf-time">Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~2:15 PM - 2:35 PM EST (US/Eastern)</div><div class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~1:15 PM - 1:35 PM CST (US/Central)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~12:15 PM - 12:35 PM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~11:15 AM - 11:35 AM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~7:15 PM - 7:35 PM UTC <br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~8:15 PM - 8:35 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~9:15 PM - 9:35 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~12:45 AM - 1:05 AM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~3:15 AM - 3:35 AM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~4:15 AM - 4:35 AM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><strong><a href="/2025/watch/gen/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></strong></div> +Status: TO_REVIEW_QA + diff --git a/2025/info/gardening-nav.md b/2025/info/gardening-nav.md index da717ec7..fc9f5c26 100644 --- a/2025/info/gardening-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/gardening-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/hyperboleqa">Questions and answers to help you fly with Hyperbole</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/bookclub-tapas">Bookclub tapas</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/hyperboleqa">Questions and answers to help you fly with Hyperbole</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/bookclub-tapas">Bookclub tapas</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/gmail-after.md b/2025/info/gmail-after.md index d0b0ca1a..cd1b0cb3 100644 --- a/2025/info/gmail-after.md +++ b/2025/info/gmail-after.md @@ -600,6 +600,158 @@ [[!template text="""Let's talk about taming email.""" start="00:23:00.520" video="mainVideo-gmail" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Thank you very much.""" start="00:23:02.760" video="mainVideo-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +</div><div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="gmail-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""I first of all want to address the feedback.""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You're absolutely right. I should have stuck to one theme.""" start="00:00:02.220" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Unfortunately, I was using vanilla Emacs""" start="00:00:06.100" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and not my own config.""" start="00:00:09.100" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So to show that it can work, apologies for that.""" start="00:00:10.300" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I will keep that in mind the next time I do such a demo.""" start="00:00:13.460" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The first question, I mean, the feedback was considered""" start="00:00:18.420" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""using similar background dark only""" start="00:00:21.540" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or light only throughout the help,""" start="00:00:23.820" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""throughout the help with iStream.""" start="00:00:25.420" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The question, the first question is,""" start="00:00:29.860" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""should I know all my contact email address by heart""" start="00:00:31.820" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or is some kind of contact list?""" start="00:00:35.420" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Unfortunately, right now, this is just to get started.""" start="00:00:38.500" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it is, you have to know it by heart,""" start="00:00:42.020" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I take this as feedback.""" start="00:00:45.860" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I will write this down for myself as a feature request.""" start="00:00:47.620" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I will make sure that all contacts""" start="00:00:51.340" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or some kind of tab support is present for email addresses.""" start="00:00:53.780" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I do not use the org system for replying so much.""" start="00:00:58.420" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I use it for knowing the context.""" start="00:01:03.660" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I don't really reply using the org mode itself to reply.""" start="00:01:06.260" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I did not focus on that feature. But this is doable.""" start="00:01:12.020" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We can certainly add a tab support""" start="00:01:16.020" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for any contacts that you may have, org contacts.""" start="00:01:18.740" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Or I don't know if there's any other package that does that.""" start="00:01:24.620" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if it is, let me know.""" start="00:01:28.060" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Org contacts is what comes to my mind.""" start="00:01:29.700" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The second question is, what would it take""" start="00:01:33.900" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to use the org pieces of this with?""" start="00:01:36.740" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""offline IMAP or other non Gmail mail setups.""" start="00:01:40.140" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I use fast mail.""" start="00:01:45.020" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Currently, I use only Gmail because that's my workflow""" start="00:01:46.060" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it works with a Gmail API.""" start="00:01:52.780" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So which means the Python script that goes along with it""" start="00:01:58.020" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""only works with Gmail and no other system for now.""" start="00:02:00.860" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is the current package.""" start="00:02:05.180" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""However, yes, I will note this down.""" start="00:02:06.940" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't know what it will take""" start="00:02:09.460" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to include this offline IMAP setup""" start="00:02:12.060" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or any other non-Gmail setup.""" start="00:02:16.380" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me tinker with it and find out what it will involve.""" start="00:02:18.500" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So give me some time, maybe I will get to it.""" start="00:02:23.140" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sorry, sorry. Oops. Okay. Okay. May I continue?""" start="00:02:30.020" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hi, Bella. Yes, please. Sorry for the confusion.""" start="00:02:43.740" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hi, Amin. All right. So the next one is,""" start="00:02:46.740" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""do you worry about sending some info to a wrong person""" start="00:02:53.180" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""due to some unseen technical issues,""" start="00:02:56.940" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for example, due to memory overflow?""" start="00:02:58.900" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Again, I have not been focusing""" start="00:03:03.300" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on replying from within Emacs.""" start="00:03:05.740" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so much, or using my package,""" start="00:03:07.140" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I usually do it through the Gmail interface.""" start="00:03:09.660" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I usually use this to get the context within the project,""" start="00:03:13.020" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""download all the emails, make sure that I have acted on emails""" start="00:03:18.300" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which Gmail doesn't do so well.""" start="00:03:22.060" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't know what the action is.""" start="00:03:23.860" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't want to use Gmail as a to-do list.""" start="00:03:25.100" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Org Mode is great at this.""" start="00:03:28.500" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Any work I have to do, any reports I have to compile,""" start="00:03:30.147" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""all of that Org Mode does. I don't use it for replying""" start="00:03:32.647" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or doing its actions around the email, which I focus on.""" start="00:03:39.100" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But point taken, let me see""" start="00:03:43.460" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if there is a like Gmail offers.""" start="00:03:45.860" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know, for 10 seconds or something you can still undo""" start="00:03:47.780" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that it doesn't go out of your email""" start="00:03:52.220" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you made a mistake or if there's a problem with your,""" start="00:03:54.740" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know, Gmail or email sending should sort of stop.""" start="00:03:59.660" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me think about that.""" start="00:04:04.620" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, I've not paid attention to that,""" start="00:04:07.020" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I'll take your point.""" start="00:04:09.397" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The next one, you should say what org-gmail is""" start="00:04:11.105" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and not its goals and non-goals,""" start="00:04:17.540" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which in this case is more helpful""" start="00:04:20.220" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to help people get their head around this.""" start="00:04:22.020" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You had some good ones in your slides,""" start="00:04:24.740" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but not your GitHub page. Okay, great.""" start="00:04:26.380" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, so I will definitely take""" start="00:04:28.860" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the information from the slides""" start="00:04:30.580" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and give it to, I mean, put it back into my readme.""" start="00:04:33.780" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's been a while since I updated ReadMe,""" start="00:04:38.500" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you're absolutely right.""" start="00:04:40.180" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It probably doesn't say why you need org email.""" start="00:04:42.180" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that would be definitely something that I can do.""" start="00:04:45.780" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Wanting to add the goal is an easier way""" start="00:04:49.060" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to add one-off email into org mode""" start="00:04:51.660" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and org agenda workflows and first.""" start="00:04:53.820" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Love seeing a different way""" start="00:04:56.420" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of looking at and working with email.""" start="00:04:57.780" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you so much for that.""" start="00:04:59.540" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, that's the idea here is if we can integrate email""" start="00:05:00.660" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I think there is memacs, you know,""" start="00:05:05.620" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's one package that I love.""" start="00:05:08.340" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It can integrate all of the other stuff into your org mode.""" start="00:05:11.580" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That worked, but I like email and dealing with email.""" start="00:05:17.100" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That is my single source of truth outside of org mode.""" start="00:05:21.540" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's the only one I need for now.""" start="00:05:26.100" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I like seeing the action""" start="00:05:28.820" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the history on my org agenda.""" start="00:05:32.660" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's one of the reasons why I built this package.""" start="00:05:35.100" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I hope that answers that.""" start="00:05:37.260" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There is one more saying, how does it handle attachments?""" start="00:05:43.700" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If it doesn't, do you have a plan to add this feature?""" start="00:05:49.460" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Attachments is a bit tricky for me right now""" start="00:05:52.820" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I don't understand org-attach so well.""" start="00:05:55.860" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't use org-attach, but you're absolutely right.""" start="00:05:58.620" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It does make sense to have org-attach also.""" start="00:06:01.300" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it's definitely in my plan to include org-attach.""" start="00:06:05.340" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't think I talked about it in my talk,""" start="00:06:08.260" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I definitely have that idea.""" start="00:06:12.460" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""First I have to wrap myself, my head""" start="00:06:14.740" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""around the idea of org-attach and how it,""" start="00:06:17.340" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I don't like, what I don't like about org-attach,""" start="00:06:21.340" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll tell you, is default is,""" start="00:06:26.060" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it opens a new folder called data""" start="00:06:28.900" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and there are, it uses a unique code""" start="00:06:31.700" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and there are subfolders in it, which I do not appreciate""" start="00:06:34.380" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I want all those files also to be within the same context.""" start="00:06:37.860" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of my project or area.""" start="00:06:43.660" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that's one of the reasons I, and I'm sure you can customize that.""" start="00:06:45.780" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There are ways to do that,""" start="00:06:50.860" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I have to pay more attention to this.""" start="00:06:52.100" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Right now, all of the attachments are dealt with in Gmail,""" start="00:06:55.380" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is not a good system to handle that""" start="00:06:58.730" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it's so out of context.""" start="00:07:01.220" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And there are like 25 contexts in the same inbox,""" start="00:07:03.580" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which I do not appreciate.""" start="00:07:06.380" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So even the attachments are like that.""" start="00:07:08.420" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But Org Mode has a much better way of handling it,""" start="00:07:11.060" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or Emacs has a much better way of handling it.""" start="00:07:13.540" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I will definitely put my attention""" start="00:07:16.100" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to this and get this feature out.""" start="00:07:20.340" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is all customer feedback for me, so to speak.""" start="00:07:22.220" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I would definitely request all of you to try it out.""" start="00:07:25.300" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And tell me, you know, good""" start="00:07:30.180" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or bad things about the package.""" start="00:07:32.180" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And you've been very candid so far. Please be so.""" start="00:07:34.940" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, you know, so be it that be candid with your feedback""" start="00:07:38.620" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I will get to know how to go with this.""" start="00:07:43.540" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""With so much, I mean, I'm not an expert in Elisp,""" start="00:07:46.700" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I have a workaround, which is I have generative AI support,""" start="00:07:49.700" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which has done well with me.""" start="00:07:57.020" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I test the software better, so I can use the generative AI""" start="00:07:58.340" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to help me with the coding,""" start="00:08:03.660" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I can test it so that it works for me.""" start="00:08:05.140" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I would request your help""" start="00:08:08.540" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""also in testing this software.""" start="00:08:10.740" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So for sure. Thank you so much for your question.""" start="00:08:13.260" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If there are any more, I can definitely answer them.""" start="00:08:16.180" video="qanda-gmail" id="subtitle"]] + </div>Questions or comments? Please e-mail [bala@balaramadurai.net](mailto:bala@balaramadurai.net?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20gmail%3A%20org-gmail%3A%20A%20deep%20integration%20of%20Gmail%20into%20your%20Org%20Mode) diff --git a/2025/info/gmail-before.md b/2025/info/gmail-before.md index 556e898b..ffb75f0c 100644 --- a/2025/info/gmail-before.md +++ b/2025/info/gmail-before.md @@ -1,18 +1,14 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sat 2025-12-06. Solid lines show talks with Q&A via BigBlueButton. 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src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--main.vtt" default />"""<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--main--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="mainVideo-gmail" data=""" 00:00.000 Before we begin @@ -41,6 +37,10 @@ Status: Q&A finished, IRC and pad will be archived on this page 22:32.940 The big picture 22:41.120 Let's connect -"""]]<div></div>Duration: 23:04 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-gmail">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-gmail.html">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--main.opus">Download --main.opus (20MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--main.webm">Download --main.webm (57MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--script.txt">Download --script.txt</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/8P93UBYrUB8">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> +"""]]<div></div>Duration: 23:04 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-gmail">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--main.opus">Download --main.opus (20MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--main.webm">Download --main.webm (57MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--script.txt">Download --script.txt</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/8P93UBYrUB8">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> + +# Q&A + +<div class="vid qanda"><video controls preload="none" id="qanda-gmail"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--answers.m4v" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--answers.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div></div>Duration: 24:55 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-gmail">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--answers.json">Download --answers.json</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--answers.m4v">Download --answers.m4v (43MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--answers.tsv">Download --answers.tsv</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--answers.txt">Download --answers.txt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--answers.vtt">Download --answers.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gmail--orggmail-a-deep-integration-of-gmail-into-your-org-mode--bala-ramadurai--answers.webm">Download --answers.webm (18MB)</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/gmail-nav.md b/2025/info/gmail-nav.md index 7120d450..57a28521 100644 --- a/2025/info/gmail-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/gmail-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/reference">Emacs as a fully-fledged reference manager</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/juicemacs">Juicemacs: exploring speculative JIT compilation for ELisp in Java</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/reference">Emacs as a fully-fledged reference manager</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/gnus">Reading and writing emails in GNU Emacs with Gnus</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/gnus-after.md b/2025/info/gnus-after.md index bb76010d..f29245e8 100644 --- a/2025/info/gnus-after.md +++ b/2025/info/gnus-after.md @@ -457,7 +457,334 @@ Captioner: sachac -Questions or comments? Please e-mail [bandali@gnu.org](mailto:bandali@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20gnus%3A%20Reading%20and%20writing%20emails%20in%20GNU%20Emacs%20with%20Gnus) +<div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="gnus-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""Okay, so first question.""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I noticed that it took considerable amount of time to send email.""" start="00:00:02.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Is it possible to configure to use an external SMTP client""" start="00:00:05.038" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to send emails? Right, yes, it definitely is possible.""" start="00:00:09.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In fact, in the past, I've used, I believe, MSMTP,""" start="00:00:14.358" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is a small SMTP implementation""" start="00:00:18.958" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's independent of Emacs. So you can do that.""" start="00:00:23.318" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's also possible to, pointed""" start="00:00:27.438" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to have it use the sendmail binary on your system.""" start="00:00:30.758" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you have a local MTA mail transfer agents""" start="00:00:34.998" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like Exim or Postfix installed and configure.""" start="00:00:41.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I believe that should also dispatch""" start="00:00:46.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and return instantaneously""" start="00:00:50.038" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then have Postfix or Exim""" start="00:00:51.998" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""deal with sending the message on their terms""" start="00:00:55.158" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""without blocking Emacs. I don't know, it depends.""" start="00:00:57.998" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Normally it's not always that slow. Sometimes it is.""" start="00:01:02.198" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think it also depends on the load on your mail server.""" start="00:01:04.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sometimes it's instantaneous, sometimes not.""" start="00:01:11.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I hope that helps.""" start="00:01:14.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's see, is the Dovecot workaround""" start="00:01:17.838" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""actually a solution?""" start="00:01:20.598" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I haven't tried it, but if it works smoothly,""" start="00:01:21.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll surely do so. It is, it really is.""" start="00:01:24.438" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've actually been using that setup for many years.""" start="00:01:27.478" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can't remember. Oh, I believe it's Eric Abramson""" start="00:01:31.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""who first shared instructions on how to set this up.""" start="00:01:45.838" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's see if I can find it. There we go. Yeah, this is it.""" start="00:01:49.078" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll share this on IRC as well.""" start="00:02:04.038" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, so Dovecot is very, very efficient.""" start="00:02:06.958" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's written in C. And yeah, when you point Gnu's""" start="00:02:15.518" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to an IMAP server like Dovecot,""" start="00:02:21.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""dealing with email is pretty instantaneous.""" start="00:02:23.238" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This article or post by Eric is great.""" start="00:02:25.038" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Although I will say that""" start="00:02:29.158" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there was a recent major release of Dovecot.""" start="00:02:32.398" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can't remember if it's 2.4 or 2.5.""" start="00:02:34.998" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it's a breaking change.""" start="00:02:37.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""They change a lot of the configuration syntax,""" start="00:02:39.598" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so there's a high likelihood""" start="00:02:42.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that this drop-in configuration won't work,""" start="00:02:44.078" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""even though that's what I used""" start="00:02:47.478" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as my starting point a couple years ago.""" start="00:02:49.238" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I will be writing an article on my personal site""" start="00:02:51.958" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to go over how to configure recent versions of Dofconn""" start="00:02:56.238" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for such a setup, for a local setup.""" start="00:03:02.718" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's see. Do you have experience with Mu4e or not much?""" start="00:03:07.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And why would you say Gnus is worth using compared to these?""" start="00:03:15.958" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I do have experience with these,""" start="00:03:22.398" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""although it goes back many years,""" start="00:03:23.838" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I'm sure both of these have evolved since,""" start="00:03:25.518" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and they're great pieces of software in their own rights.""" start="00:03:27.758" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And actually I did use them in that order.""" start="00:03:31.838" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like I first tried Mu4e in Emacs,""" start="00:03:33.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when I started using email in Emacs,""" start="00:03:37.398" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then I tried Notmuch for a while, and then I went to Gnus.""" start="00:03:40.278" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""They're great. They have like pros and cons.""" start="00:03:44.278" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Mu4e, I believe, has""" start="00:03:51.158" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""excellent maildir handling directly,""" start="00:03:52.398" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if I'm not mistaken, unlike Gnus,""" start="00:03:55.358" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so you can point it directly""" start="00:03:58.358" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to your maildirs locally,""" start="00:04:00.838" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it should work fine,""" start="00:04:03.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if I'm remembering correctly.""" start="00:04:06.158" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""NotMuch is also excellent.""" start="00:04:08.158" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The thing with Notmuch""" start="00:04:11.478" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is that it uses Xapien""" start="00:04:12.478" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for indexing and searching email.""" start="00:04:13.958" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's tag-based, so you can tag messages.""" start="00:04:17.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then, yeah, it's amazing""" start="00:04:20.398" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for tagging and searching capabilities,""" start="00:04:24.078" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""very powerful search features.""" start="00:04:26.198" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And my reason for trying Gnus""" start="00:04:28.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then, I don't know, eventually""" start="00:04:31.678" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""liking it was couple of years ago,""" start="00:04:33.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I went through this kind of phase""" start="00:04:37.038" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of trying and trying to like use""" start="00:04:38.438" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and stick with packages""" start="00:04:40.598" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that are built into GNU Emacs""" start="00:04:43.358" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as much as possible.""" start="00:04:45.318" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""No particular reason that I would like,""" start="00:04:47.158" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know, recommend people do that per se,""" start="00:04:51.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but yeah, that's just what I wanted to do.""" start="00:04:54.198" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Cause I noticed my configurations""" start="00:04:57.038" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""were like growing unwieldy.""" start="00:05:00.598" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I, like many others declared, Emacs in its bankruptcy,""" start="00:05:02.278" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in its file bankruptcy, and configure things from scratch""" start="00:05:07.798" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and try to use whatever that Emacs had to offer""" start="00:05:11.678" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""built in itself, and then only reach for a couple""" start="00:05:15.718" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of external packages here and there.""" start="00:05:18.798" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's what I went to. That's how I ended up on Gnu's.""" start="00:05:20.278" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it's been very nice.""" start="00:05:24.718" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've tried a few other email clients""" start="00:05:26.398" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""since then, temporarily,""" start="00:05:29.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like I tried AERC, A-E-R-C,""" start="00:05:31.238" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is not built into Emacs,""" start="00:05:33.198" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I don't know,""" start="00:05:36.198" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I keep coming back to Gnus.""" start="00:05:36.798" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's great to have it all, to be able to do all these things""" start="00:05:38.198" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from within GNU Emacs. Let's see, some notes and feedback.""" start="00:05:42.758" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you for all the kind words folks, appreciate it.""" start="00:05:47.678" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm glad that you found the presentation helpful""" start="00:05:52.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or somewhat useful. Let's see, new question.""" start="00:05:56.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, and I will check IRC as well.""" start="00:05:59.158" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's see, at my organization,""" start="00:06:02.358" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we're forced to use OAuth with Outlook,""" start="00:06:06.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and they've also blacklisted""" start="00:06:09.318" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""all email clients except Thunderbird,""" start="00:06:11.158" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but they don't support it,""" start="00:06:13.518" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""only the Webmail or the Outlook app.""" start="00:06:15.238" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Do you know if this is something""" start="00:06:17.038" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that can be circumvented in Gnus? Let's see.""" start="00:06:18.518" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if I'm pretty sure, at least with the recent Emacs versions,""" start="00:06:23.998" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Gnus does support xOAuth as a backend.""" start="00:06:29.798" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I think you should be able to do that""" start="00:06:37.678" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""even with just the things, the machinery built into Emacs.""" start="00:06:41.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Even so, I think there are external packages and programs.""" start="00:06:45.678" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""One of them I think comes from this Cyrus IMAP world""" start="00:06:53.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of things that implement like XOAuth.""" start="00:06:58.718" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you should be able to do that.""" start="00:07:02.358" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You should be able to use that to get authenticated""" start="00:07:04.798" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to your organization's mail server.""" start="00:07:09.398" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I've never tried that myself.""" start="00:07:12.238" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In terms of like blacklisting all email clients,""" start="00:07:15.798" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't know how they would do it outside of, you know,""" start="00:07:22.838" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this kind of authentication thingy.""" start="00:07:27.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If, you know, they check""" start="00:07:29.798" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the user agent header or something,""" start="00:07:32.318" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's pretty easy to customize and set.""" start="00:07:36.398" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""With Gnus, you can set, define a posting style""" start="00:07:42.038" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to set a custom user agent.""" start="00:07:50.438" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, yeah, that's as far as I know.""" start="00:07:55.238" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thunderbird is pretty nice too.""" start="00:07:58.158" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like I reach out for it sometimes""" start="00:08:00.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when I'm in a rush or can't,""" start="00:08:05.158" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""don't have the time to like set up Gnus with""" start="00:08:10.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like some new like IMAP server or something.""" start="00:08:15.958" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I reach for it sometimes, but yeah,""" start="00:08:24.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I primarily use Gnus. I see.""" start="00:08:28.758" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So the question says they tried it""" start="00:08:32.398" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with not much and it never worked.""" start="00:08:34.758" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Even KML on Android didn't work.""" start="00:08:38.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Right. Yeah, I'm not sure.""" start="00:08:39.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you can like provide maybe more details""" start="00:08:45.598" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as to like what doesn't work""" start="00:08:47.678" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or if you get any particular error messages""" start="00:08:57.478" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or like how they're trying to like prevent you from using it,""" start="00:09:02.518" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then maybe folks could have some ideas""" start="00:09:05.678" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of maybe how to get around that.""" start="00:09:08.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah. Let's see, I'm going to go""" start="00:09:11.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""over and take a look at IRC. Yes, scoring is great.""" start="00:09:16.238" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In it for bankruptcy,""" start="00:09:29.598" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""they have mail to use outlook from Gnus, right?""" start="00:09:33.358" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, there are various like solutions and workarounds.""" start="00:09:39.158" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, let's see. How's the schedule looking?""" start="00:09:43.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think the next talk""" start="00:09:47.278" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is gonna start pretty soon, if I'm not mistaken.""" start="00:09:48.278" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, so I believe that's about all the time""" start="00:09:52.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that we have on the stream for the Q&A,""" start="00:10:34.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but of course I'll hang around here on big blue button""" start="00:10:35.718" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and IRC for a while if folks would like to ask more questions.""" start="00:10:38.758" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And also feel free to email me,""" start="00:10:43.078" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""bandali@gnu.org""" start="00:10:43.758" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or at kelar.org with any questions.""" start="00:10:44.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thanks again for the kind words folks, appreciate it.""" start="00:10:46.438" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, I myself also wish""" start="00:10:49.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that there were like some tutorials or something""" start="00:10:51.038" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when I was getting started with Guinness,""" start="00:10:53.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but we didn't have that. So, and I've been meaning""" start="00:10:54.998" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to like record a talk like this for years for EmacsConf,""" start="00:10:56.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but yeah, funnily enough, after like 10 years of,""" start="00:10:59.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""at my 10th anniversary""" start="00:11:12.278" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of being involved with the conference,""" start="00:11:22.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I finally put together a talk of my own""" start="00:11:27.398" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to talk about configuring Gnus.""" start="00:11:29.358" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's see. Oh, I see, I see.""" start="00:11:32.318" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So the organization is doing some kind of check""" start="00:11:35.758" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""during setting up of OAuth.""" start="00:11:41.518" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I think how that works is""" start="00:11:43.438" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""sometimes these email clients,""" start="00:11:44.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think at least this is the case for Gmail or something,""" start="00:11:47.158" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where a project such as Thunderbird""" start="00:11:50.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""needs to apply for some kind of token""" start="00:11:55.038" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to be able to authenticate""" start="00:12:00.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and connect its users to a mail server.""" start="00:12:02.518" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So all I will say is""" start="00:12:05.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that Thunderbird is free software""" start="00:12:10.198" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the sources are available""" start="00:12:12.238" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you might be able to find""" start="00:12:13.518" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the token that they use and yeah.""" start="00:12:15.518" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Right, so yeah, I'm just reading this comment here.""" start="00:12:19.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You're very welcome again.""" start="00:13:13.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I hope you find it useful in some way.""" start="00:13:16.078" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So they say that they like the fact""" start="00:13:18.798" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I started with a clean setup and built from that.""" start="00:13:21.598" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Reading and writing emails in Emacs""" start="00:13:25.238" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is definitely not straightforward.""" start="00:13:27.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I find it frustrating""" start="00:13:28.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that there are so many pieces to put together""" start="00:13:30.358" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and a bunch of documentation to read.""" start="00:13:32.318" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And they admit that they find Gnus overwhelming.""" start="00:13:34.398" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I sympathize and empathize.""" start="00:13:39.318" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've been in that very same situation.""" start="00:13:42.758" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And yeah, it's totally okay to feel like that.""" start="00:13:45.318" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean, email itself is kind of complex,""" start="00:13:50.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""even on the server side.""" start="00:13:55.438" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you've ever looked or have been interested""" start="00:13:57.518" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in self-hosting your email,""" start="00:14:00.518" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know that there are so many moving parts and pieces.""" start="00:14:02.678" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yeah, I 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video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It already has a lot of backends built into GNU Emacs,""" start="00:15:06.598" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and there are other ones""" start="00:15:10.158" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that people have written externally""" start="00:15:12.438" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on various code hosting forges""" start="00:15:14.238" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you can download and set up. Yeah, thank you all.""" start="00:15:18.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's nice to see that the talk""" start="00:15:27.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""has kind of resonated with so many folks.""" start="00:15:30.718" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And, yeah, it is encouragement""" start="00:15:33.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for me to finally get around to starting""" start="00:15:41.238" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""perhaps either a tutorial series""" start="00:15:44.198" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or like a video series like this""" start="00:15:47.998" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""concretely showing and walking through""" start="00:15:50.478" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how to like set up and configure these different aspects.""" start="00:15:54.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There were so many other things that I wanted to show,""" start="00:15:57.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but didn't have the time""" start="00:16:00.278" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or couldn't squeeze it into""" start="00:16:04.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the 15, 20 minute format for the conference.""" start="00:16:06.438" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah. I'm going to hang out here for a few more minutes.""" start="00:16:09.038" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Another comment, they would have liked""" start="00:16:28.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to see a quick demo of Gnus""" start="00:17:36.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""while it is fully configured and tweaked.""" start="00:17:38.718" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's kind of a teaser.""" start="00:17:41.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can definitely do that sometime after the conference.""" start="00:17:43.358" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Truth be told, I don't customize the looks of it heavily.""" start="00:17:52.358" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I use the default layout""" start="00:17:59.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for the summary and article buffers.""" start="00:18:01.758" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""With Gnus, you can even reconfigure that""" start="00:18:03.958" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to arrange these in your preferred location or layout.""" start="00:18:12.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't really do any of that.""" start="00:18:15.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""For the most part, my setup is pretty simple.""" start="00:18:18.718" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can actually maybe show my init file here. Let's see.""" start="00:18:22.798" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, so this is, I guess, part of my Gnus configuration.""" start="00:18:27.758" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I configure a couple of mail servers,""" start="00:18:58.718" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""set up these expiry targets""" start="00:19:01.438" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that I can hit capital E on a message""" start="00:19:04.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then have it be archived. You can have it be immediate.""" start="00:19:07.598" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I do that for work messages""" start="00:19:12.438" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or you can use the default seven day,""" start="00:19:15.478" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where if a message is older than seven days,""" start="00:19:17.678" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like once it reaches that age""" start="00:19:21.798" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it's been marked as expired and it'll be moved into,""" start="00:19:23.318" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like for example, this yearly archive directory,""" start="00:19:26.358" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like archive. For example, 2025.""" start="00:19:29.598" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, you can do like mail splitting,""" start="00:19:31.758" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""automatically filing email.""" start="00:19:35.318" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The fancy splitting is the more powerful variant.""" start="00:19:38.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can use like all kinds of regular expressions""" start="00:19:44.038" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and move email around depending on""" start="00:19:46.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what field or what header""" start="00:19:48.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""matches what regular expression.""" start="00:19:50.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What else? Gnus has things,""" start="00:19:52.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""has a facility like Gnus parameters""" start="00:20:00.398" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for configuring individual groups or directories.""" start="00:20:03.478" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like if you file all the mailing or the mails""" start="00:20:07.238" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for a particular mailing list into a certain group.""" start="00:20:11.478" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And for example, if they add""" start="00:20:15.798" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the name of the mailing list""" start="00:20:20.238" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to the, subject header.""" start="00:20:22.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""They prefix the subject header with the name of the list.""" start="00:20:26.438" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can set that here""" start="00:20:28.958" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and Gnus will automatically""" start="00:20:30.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""hide that for you. So, let's see.""" start="00:20:32.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's a news agent,""" start="00:20:39.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which I won't even get into because it's a rabbit hole.""" start="00:20:54.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's pretty cool. Definitely check it out.""" start="00:20:58.918" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can define what MIME parts should be buttonized""" start="00:21:01.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that you can like easily toggle them""" start="00:21:07.518" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when displaying the article.""" start="00:21:09.278" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, you can customize the list""" start="00:21:11.078" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the headers that are displayed and the order of them.""" start="00:21:14.838" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like I showed in the sample init file that I provided.""" start="00:21:17.598" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Games can integrate with Dired.""" start="00:21:22.998" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can set like custom signatures like here.""" start="00:21:25.438" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I might define something""" start="00:21:35.958" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then I use it later in the posting,""" start="00:21:37.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in the posting, the news posting styles variable.""" start="00:21:44.798" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I set a signature to that. Yeah.""" start="00:21:48.518" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can write custom like functions to move email around.""" start="00:21:52.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I have this like Gnus chunk article function""" start="00:22:09.998" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I bind to VS,""" start="00:22:16.078" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so V is the prefix came up that I defined,""" start="00:22:19.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then S, so you can do things like that.""" start="00:22:22.318" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can customize the format of the topic lines,""" start="00:22:29.758" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so if I actually launch Gnus with my own configuration,""" start="00:22:34.198" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this is how it might look like, so.""" start="00:22:39.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can define archive decoders""" start="00:22:43.398" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to let you like automatically decode""" start="00:22:58.438" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""inside the Gnus article buffer,""" start="00:23:02.318" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how to extract certain archive formats.""" start="00:23:04.958" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like for example, I defined this one for Gzip.""" start="00:23:10.158" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can set like discouraged alternatives""" start="00:23:13.038" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to like, for example, hide HTML email by default,""" start="00:23:18.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""especially if there is a plain text version. I do that.""" start="00:23:22.078" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""GNU says machinery around like encrypting emails.""" start="00:23:26.998" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It has a bunch of customizations.""" start="00:23:34.998" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you can configure and have Dynos behave a certain way.""" start="00:23:36.958" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""For example, when replying to signed or encrypted emails.""" start="00:23:44.798" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And yeah. Anyway. That's about it.""" start="00:23:48.638" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yeah, thanks again for hanging out with me, folks.""" start="00:24:01.958" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I appreciate all the kind words.""" start="00:24:04.558" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""comments and yeah, I'm also""" start="00:24:08.878" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""looking forward to trying and putting together""" start="00:24:13.118" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""more videos or articles about Gnus.""" start="00:24:17.038" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Definitely one about configuring Dovecot for local mail.""" start="00:24:21.998" video="qanda-gnus" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And yeah, take it from there. 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src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--main.vtt" default />"""<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--main--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="mainVideo-gnus" data=""" 00:02.620 Introduction @@ -32,6 +28,10 @@ Status: Q&A finished, IRC and pad will be archived on this page 19:27.960 Wrapping up 20:12.760 nnimap -"""]]<div></div>Duration: 21:37 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-gnus">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-gnus.html">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--main.opus">Download --main.opus (19MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--main.webm">Download --main.webm (60MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--split.txt">Download --split.txt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--split.vtt">Download --split.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/0Pu8oqdsSig">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> +"""]]<div></div>Duration: 21:37 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-gnus">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--main.opus">Download --main.opus (19MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--main.webm">Download --main.webm (60MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--split.txt">Download --split.txt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--split.vtt">Download --split.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/0Pu8oqdsSig">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> + +# Q&A + +<div class="vid qanda"><video controls preload="none" id="qanda-gnus"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--answers.m4v" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--answers.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div></div>Duration: 27:00 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-gnus">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--answers.json">Download --answers.json</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--answers.m4v">Download --answers.m4v (62MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--answers.tsv">Download --answers.tsv</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--answers.txt">Download --answers.txt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--answers.vtt">Download --answers.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-gnus--reading-and-writing-emails-in-gnu-emacs-with-gnus--amin-bandali--answers.webm">Download --answers.webm (58MB)</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/gnus-nav.md b/2025/info/gnus-nav.md index 66b60f15..bc14240a 100644 --- a/2025/info/gnus-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/gnus-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/swanky">Swanky Python: Interactive development for Python</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/python">Interactive Python programming in Emacs</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/gmail">org-gmail: A deep integration of Gmail into your Org Mode</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/latex">LaTeX export in org-mode: the overhaul</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/graphics-after.md b/2025/info/graphics-after.md index e3eda455..526fa59d 100644 --- a/2025/info/graphics-after.md +++ b/2025/info/graphics-after.md @@ -3,7 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data-slug="calc"> <title> 1:00- 1:25 Basic Calc functionality for engineering or electronics</title> <rect x="329" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="34" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(361,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> calc</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/blee-lcnt" title="Blee-LCNT: An Emacs-centered content production and self-publication framework" data-slug="blee-lcnt"> <title> 1:35- 2:15 Blee-LCNT: An Emacs-centered content production and self-publication framework</title> <rect x="377" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="54" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(429,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> blee-lcnt</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/greader" title="GNU Emacs Greader (Gnamù Reader) mode is the best Emacs mode in existence" data-slug="greader"> <title> 2:35- 2:40 GNU 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Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="mainVideo-graphics" data=""" +00:05.000 space box intro (elisp model matrix pipeline c dynamic module) +01:59.000 parallel (sdl/linux multicore pthreads) +02:04.000 bad snake (oop eieio) +03:30.000 solar (ecs) +04:32.000 60 fps 1 (opengl cpu) +05:36.000 earth (grid ascii) +06:02.000 studio (image unicode) +09:32.000 60 fps 2 (gpu) +11:57.000 rgb triangle (glsl vertex/fragment shaders) +13:09.000 ansi cube (software functional shader) +13:33.000 horizon (gradient) +15:16.000 shell color table (zsh) +16:13.000 luki-lisp (macros) +18:25.000 incal & rave dave outro (debug text triangles) -<div class="vid mainVideo"><video controls preload="none" id="mainVideo-graphics"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--main.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div></div>Duration: 22:15 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-graphics">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-graphics.html">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--main.opus">Download --main.opus (18MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--main.webm">Download --main.webm (56MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/RVoGcLNalJw">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> +"""]]<div></div>Duration: 22:15 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-graphics">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--main.opus">Download --main.opus (18MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-graphics--modern-emacselisp-hardwaresoftware-accelerated-graphics--emanuel-berg--main.webm">Download --main.webm (56MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/RVoGcLNalJw">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
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Please e-mail [rsw@gnu.org](mailto:rsw@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20hyperboleqa%3A%20Questions%20and%20answers%20to%20help%20you%20fly%20with%20Hyperbole) +<div class="transcript transcript-mainVideo"><a name="hyperboleqa-mainVideo-transcript"></a><h1>Transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""All right, you're good to go. Are people here?""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me read the first question to you since I'm here.""" start="00:00:12.240" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The first question here is,""" start="00:00:15.640" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm excited to know opinion and current state""" start="00:00:17.640" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of using NCP and AI for PKMs and PIEs.""" start="00:00:20.600" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Since they do carry a lot of burden out of us, it means a lot of process.""" start="00:00:23.800" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""How does our pipeline stand with the coming days?""" start="00:00:28.640" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thanks for the question.""" start="00:00:33.440" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""AI is obviously on everybody's mind.""" start="00:00:35.120" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We haven't done a lot of integration""" start="00:00:40.240" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with any of the popular AI engines,""" start="00:00:43.720" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I think as you'll see through this Q&A session,""" start="00:00:47.200" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hyperbole's function is really to interlink""" start="00:00:50.520" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""your information everywhere throughout Emacs.""" start="00:00:54.560" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so, whether you're using a chatbot""" start="00:00:57.960" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in a specific buffer,""" start="00:01:02.280" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can use hyperbole implicit links, implicit buttons""" start="00:01:04.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to activate different actions there as well.""" start="00:01:11.360" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So sometimes it takes a bit of customization,""" start="00:01:17.040" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a small amount of two to seven lines of code to do that.""" start="00:01:20.400" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""As we get to working with more of these engines,""" start="00:01:26.000" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we'll build that into the core part of Hyperbole.""" start="00:01:30.840" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But right now, that's left as an extension""" start="00:01:34.120" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for users who are heavily using MCP""" start="00:01:40.040" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or other protocols right now.""" start="00:01:43.360" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We have, for example, integrated""" start="00:01:45.880" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with LSPs, you know, for coding and have that interface through xref""" start="00:01:50.240" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and basically using the single key, the action key,""" start="00:01:57.560" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is made a return.""" start="00:02:01.200" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can jump around to any of your source definitions""" start="00:02:02.720" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from any reference in almost any language""" start="00:02:08.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that anybody uses today. So you can extrapolate from that""" start="00:02:11.000" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how that might work with AI as well.""" start="00:02:14.600" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I think you'll see later when we talk about HiWiki""" start="00:02:17.120" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that we're now enabling just just wiki words""" start="00:02:23.000" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to be buttons in hyperbole.""" start="00:02:26.720" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So those could be part of your chat with an AI""" start="00:02:30.080" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you just click on it and you jump right to all your references""" start="00:02:34.000" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""associated with that terminology. Thanks for the question.""" start="00:02:37.520" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Should I just go through the second question?""" start="00:02:49.120" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I thought people would be glad.""" start="00:02:51.840" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""As a normal user who codes and takes notes,""" start="00:02:54.200" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I really want to deep dive and learn Hyperbole,""" start="00:02:56.560" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but always end up winding back up to Embark""" start="00:02:58.760" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and Org Mode being the better system.""" start="00:03:02.080" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""For me, Hyperbole looks over engineering""" start="00:03:04.400" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or over the peer system,""" start="00:03:06.480" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which other individual packages do well.""" start="00:03:08.080" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And outside DMAC, there's no system supporting Hyperbole or any usability.""" start="00:03:10.120" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I think you've cited answering""" start="00:03:15.400" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that already, so go ahead.""" start="00:03:17.520" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Right, hyperbole is large, but there's reasons behind that.""" start="00:03:21.160" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We're just trying to link all your information in Emacs.""" start="00:03:26.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I think you can see my screen here in Emacs.""" start="00:03:30.600" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So for example, you can take any Lisp expression,""" start="00:03:38.080" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""even a variable like here we have in hyperbole""" start="00:03:45.440" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hyperbdur variable""" start="00:03:49.240" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I just hit the action key made a return""" start="00:03:50.960" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and in my mini buffer I see the value of that variable,""" start="00:03:53.520" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I could just as well take any other expression""" start="00:03:57.760" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and take the outer parens off""" start="00:04:01.600" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and change them to angle brackets""" start="00:04:03.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and now that's a live Hyper button""" start="00:04:05.680" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""could be in a comment in a programming buffer in this case.""" start="00:04:08.240" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's in K outliner buffer,""" start="00:04:12.080" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is a an auto-numbered outliner part of hyperbole.""" start="00:04:15.680" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So let's just try this and say made a return.""" start="00:04:19.160" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I pressed and it ran occur and found all the occurrences of buttons.""" start="00:04:23.600" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And similarly in here, I could just jump and go""" start="00:04:28.720" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to any of these lines directly""" start="00:04:31.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""by hitting made a return in that buffer as well.""" start="00:04:35.520" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So all your text, all your sort""" start="00:04:37.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of what we call implicit links become live and hyperbole.""" start="00:04:39.800" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And you didn't have to learn much.""" start="00:04:44.880" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You just learn, you know, if you know a little Lisp""" start="00:04:46.520" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or how to type any expression,""" start="00:04:48.560" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then you just change the outer brackets.""" start="00:04:50.280" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And all of a sudden, you have hyperbuttons.""" start="00:04:52.880" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So hyperbole, you can learn a little bit at a time.""" start="00:04:55.080" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And although it seems daunting at first""" start="00:05:01.080" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it has so much functionality,""" start="00:05:04.480" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""very large and rich architecture.""" start="00:05:06.880" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But what we do is teach people one piece at a 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it's built right into the menus.""" start="00:16:13.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So but even following that we've the latest addition to hyperbole is Something""" start="00:16:16.400" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and this is the first time""" start="00:16:23.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we're really showing it publicly is the high wiki""" start="00:16:25.800" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Which is a new subsystem as we call it""" start="00:16:29.800" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and this is I think the best wiki capability in Emacs now what it does is it automatically highlights""" start="00:16:33.560" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""let me turn it on I have to turn on high wiki mode""" start="00:16:44.720" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] 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video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's not even a delimiter.""" start="00:18:11.640" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So we have automatic implicit hyper buttons""" start="00:18:13.440" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""being added in any buffer.""" start="00:18:17.840" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Could be a comment in a programming buffer with all you""" start="00:18:20.680" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You don't have to add anything.""" start="00:18:23.960" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll show you how to create a new page in a minute.""" start="00:18:26.600" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But you see I can link to any org section without any IDs.""" start="00:18:32.000" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template 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I'm just in org mode.""" start="00:19:34.320" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Now anytime that high wiki mode is active,""" start="00:19:39.160" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in any buffer essentially,""" start="00:19:42.880" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can type that out and it'll recognize it.""" start="00:19:46.240" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Notice so that's not a wiki word.""" start="00:19:50.280" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it's highlighting and it's unhighlighting""" start="00:19:53.040" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""right as I type.""" start="00:19:55.280" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, again, you can embed these as org links in org.""" start="00:19:56.600" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's a special format like this, HiWiki word""" start="00:20:03.200" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you can make an org link""" start="00:20:09.440" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if I was in org mode, just like that.""" start="00:20:11.240" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So there's all sorts of compatibility,""" start="00:20:13.480" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but basically it's just words,""" start="00:20:16.600" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and HiWiki takes care of the rest for you.""" start="00:20:18.320" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So there's a directory where all these, it's HiWiki,""" start="00:20:21.120" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""hi wiki tilde slash""" start="00:20:26.680" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""hi wiki is the default place where all these would be found""" start="00:20:28.880" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and there's a menu now in hyperbole for hi wiki h""" start="00:20:32.720" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you can see it has a lot of capabilities""" start="00:20:36.360" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but i can say b go into the directory of all the files""" start="00:20:40.640" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just pull them up and any of these you'll see""" start="00:20:44.360" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""let me give you one like this me okay so you can see the other wiki words being highlighted in here""" start="00:20:47.800" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so it's very fast to this 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I think that's the end of the etherpad questions for now,""" start="00:25:04.640" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I see a number of people in the room,""" start="00:25:11.200" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so you can continue the conversation.""" start="00:25:12.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We'll be on the stream for another five minutes or so,""" start="00:25:15.440" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but yes, please go ahead. Great. Yeah.""" start="00:25:18.720" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean, people, does everybody have, can talk on the conference?""" start="00:25:22.320" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I was expecting to just talk with people here.""" start="00:25:27.640" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's see. Yeah. Can anybody say anything here?""" start="00:25:31.440" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hi, Bob. I can say something. Hey, Matt. Hi. Yeah.""" start="00:25:40.800" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Maybe you want to bring up a topic.""" start="00:25:52.040" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think I... Yes. Sorry, Bob.""" start="00:25:55.200" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think I saw a question here on IOC. It was like this.""" start="00:25:56.840" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Interesting, but the many different link formats""" start="00:26:05.840" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""makes reading and analyzing my notes""" start="00:26:08.600" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""much harder and less usable outside Emacs.""" start="00:26:11.280" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't know if you have some comment on that.""" start="00:26:14.960" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well, I mean, the different formats that you're saying,""" start="00:26:18.760" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like angle brackets or curly braces,""" start="00:26:22.320" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are just so that you can utilize many different types.""" start="00:26:24.840" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of buttons, but if you just want to use key sequences,""" start="00:26:31.320" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there's only one markup format.""" start="00:26:35.600" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""With org, you've got the square brackets,""" start="00:26:37.760" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which are consistent, but in order to have different types,""" start="00:26:41.600" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you have to type a prefix name,""" start="00:26:44.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like you see the HY for the High Wiki buttons in org mode.""" start="00:26:47.280" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I think the trade-off is pretty much the same,""" start="00:26:53.280" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but Hyperbole always, always works""" start="00:26:57.000" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to minimize the amount of markup.""" start="00:27:02.240" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Markdown is pretty simple. 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Let me go back to that. This K outline here.""" start="00:28:27.040" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So we covered HiWiki.""" start="00:28:36.640" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We're in the, I'll just show you some things""" start="00:28:38.720" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that we wanted to highlight""" start="00:28:43.000" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if people didn't have specific questions.""" start="00:28:44.040" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But feel free to jump in anytime""" start="00:28:46.280" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you want to ask something.""" start="00:28:48.880" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So what we're looking at here is a K Outliner document.""" start="00:28:51.400" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's, you know, hyperbole is pretty well documented.""" start="00:28:57.040" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's a large manual. There's interactive.""" start="00:29:00.400" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""demos of it and there are videos as well""" start="00:29:04.720" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but the K Outliner is unique in Emacs""" start="00:29:09.320" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it it can do like full legal auto numbering you""" start="00:29:12.080" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just say I want to create a new headline""" start="00:29:17.440" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you can see or I could create four""" start="00:29:21.400" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I could say I want to create three more of these""" start="00:29:23.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I can do it all at once with one key""" start="00:29:26.680" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can then just tab to make sublevels here""" start="00:29:29.240" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you see this is using a specific outline format that we have""" start="00:29:33.680" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but if we do dot in the view specs here""" start="00:29:40.320" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it changes to legal outlining so it's really that simple""" start="00:29:43.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and all of these numbers are automatically maintained""" start="00:29:48.240" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as I move stuff around I can use like org mode alt arrow keys""" start="00:29:51.400" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to like move things up and down, right?""" start="00:29:56.640" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And just move them around.""" start="00:30:00.120" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And when I run out, you know, when it can't go any higher,""" start="00:30:00.840" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it gives me an error.""" start="00:30:04.720" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then it's just free form typing here with auto-wrapping.""" start="00:30:06.040" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The nice thing is that there's,""" start="00:30:11.080" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there's actually these hidden,""" start="00:30:13.760" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""let's get, hidden what are called ID stamps.""" start="00:30:17.360" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So these are permanent hyperlink anchors""" start="00:30:22.520" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that are assigned to each cell.""" start="00:30:24.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So as this cell moves in the outline,""" start="00:30:26.720" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you notice that this 29 didn't change.""" start="00:30:29.680" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you can move and all those other auto numbers shift""" start="00:30:32.680" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to represent the actual outline structure.""" start="00:30:37.440" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But this ID stamp of 29 stays the same.""" start="00:30:40.360" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you can embed that in links and say,""" start="00:30:44.080" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I want to link to cell 29.""" start="00:30:47.680" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If I go, let me just go to the K Outliner example.""" start="00:30:51.720" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I'll show you one of those, which is really cool.""" start="00:30:56.000" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Because what you can do is say, I want to link""" start="00:30:59.040" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me find that. 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I have to get this straight.""" start="00:44:53.320" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, it's not letting me type the buttons.""" start="00:44:55.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me see if I can turn off the key casting.""" start="00:45:02.200" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, maybe that'll help. just gonna exit out of here.""" start="00:45:15.840" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Does anybody have any questions they want to cover?""" start="00:45:23.520" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I was just gonna show you yeah a little more on type definitions""" start="00:45:33.000" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if there was any interest OK, there's nobody piping up.""" start="00:45:39.080" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me see if there's any other questions.""" start="00:45:53.120" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hi, Bob. I haven't seen any more questions.""" start="00:45:57.000" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, so maybe it's you, me, and someone called Max is here in the channel.""" start="00:46:04.440" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""OK. Okay, so if Max doesn't have any questions""" start="00:46:10.840" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and there aren't other people, we can just end it there.""" start="00:46:19.480" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't want to have an audience of zero or talk to that.""" start="00:46:24.840" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, but I think that was a good overview, Max, right?""" start="00:46:34.480" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, definitely covered a lot in a short time.""" start="00:46:37.920" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And hopefully, you know, just try it out.""" start="00:46:45.480" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""At the top here, it shows you how to install it.""" start="00:46:48.640" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's pretty simple, basic package and installation.""" start="00:46:52.400" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And we're happy to help anybody get started if they need to.""" start="00:46:56.560" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So thanks, everyone.""" start="00:47:02.720" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And we'll answer any further questions on the Etherpad after this.""" start="00:47:05.200" video="mainVideo-hyperboleqa" id="subtitle"]] + +</div>Questions or comments? 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class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~12:45 PM - 1:15 PM CST (US/Central)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~11:45 AM - 12:15 PM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~10:45 AM - 11:15 AM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~6:45 PM - 7:15 PM UTC <br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~7:45 PM - 8:15 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~8:45 PM - 9:15 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~12:15 AM - 12:45 AM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~2:45 AM - 3:15 AM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~3:45 AM - 4:15 AM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><strong><a href="/2025/watch/gen/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></strong></div> +Status: TO_REVIEW_QA + -<div class="vid mainVideo"><div></div><div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-hyperboleqa">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-hyperboleqa.html">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a 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Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div></div>Duration: 49:02 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-hyperboleqa">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-hyperboleqa--questions-and-answers-to-help-you-fly-with-hyperbole--bob-weiner--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-hyperboleqa--questions-and-answers-to-help-you-fly-with-hyperbole--bob-weiner--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-hyperboleqa--questions-and-answers-to-help-you-fly-with-hyperbole--bob-weiner--main.json">Download --main.json</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-hyperboleqa--questions-and-answers-to-help-you-fly-with-hyperbole--bob-weiner--main.m4v">Download --main.m4v (108MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-hyperboleqa--questions-and-answers-to-help-you-fly-with-hyperbole--bob-weiner--main.tsv">Download --main.tsv</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-hyperboleqa--questions-and-answers-to-help-you-fly-with-hyperbole--bob-weiner--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-hyperboleqa--questions-and-answers-to-help-you-fly-with-hyperbole--bob-weiner--original.m4v">Download --original.m4v (111MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/oGFyHe8SpE4">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
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Please e-mail [paaguti@gmail.com](mailto:paaguti@gmail.com?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20latex%3A%20LaTeX%20export%20in%20org-mode%3A%20the%20overhaul) +<div class="transcript transcript-mainVideo"><a name="latex-mainVideo-transcript"></a><h1>Transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""Okay. Good afternoon, morning or evening,""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""whatever it is in your airtime zone.""" start="00:00:04.457" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm Pedro Aranda and I'm going to be talking about""" start="00:00:06.520" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what I've been doing""" start="00:00:10.960" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with the latest backend in Org Mode""" start="00:00:12.960" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the different Sorry, and the way it treats fonts.""" start="00:00:17.000" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Just a couple of words before""" start="00:00:24.720" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I am going to go through motivation,""" start="00:00:28.280" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the evolution and get you an idea of what you can get""" start="00:00:30.360" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from the feature branch that I have started""" start="00:00:35.280" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and give a couple of demos.""" start="00:00:38.080" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""actually my motivation is I was using ox-latex currently""" start="00:00:41.400" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and b and ox-beamer for as a foundation for my activities""" start="00:00:47.780" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""mainly for lecture notes and lecture slides""" start="00:00:51.440" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so i came from pure latex and beamers""" start="00:00:54.400" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and for me the real cool use case""" start="00:01:01.360" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or I would say this was""" start="00:01:04.520" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the killer use case for me was""" start="00:01:05.960" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have a programming lecture""" start="00:01:07.960" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is sort of a Python 101""" start="00:01:09.240" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and when I'm live in the lecture""" start="00:01:12.200" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can go and if the pupils ask me I can modify code,""" start="00:01:14.200" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""show modified code and results on the fly""" start="00:01:18.280" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and that's something that really impresses the kids""" start="00:01:21.080" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and makes them understand what we are talking about.""" start="00:01:25.120" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""From my pro-subjective point of view, in some,""" start="00:01:30.160" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""mainly in ox-beamer, some of the things that I was missing""" start="00:01:34.400" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is that emojis would really break the monotony""" start="00:01:38.160" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I missed the support for emojis and stock Beamer themes.""" start="00:01:41.880" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And some fonts I also found were suboptimal""" start="00:01:47.680" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or difficult to adapt in case they need an adaptation.""" start="00:01:52.160" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, for example, people who need special fonts""" start="00:01:56.640" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because of their special capabilities,""" start="00:02:01.800" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's difficult to get those fonts from the stock themes""" start="00:02:05.800" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and from the stock font implementations you have there.""" start="00:02:11.160" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, requirements on mice""" start="00:02:17.360" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from the Emacs site to do this is none,""" start="00:02:19.400" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because basically, okay, the only thing I want""" start="00:02:21.480" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is to work on a vanilla Emacs,""" start="00:02:25.000" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is more or less recent,""" start="00:02:27.160" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because yes, I'm a bit of a freak""" start="00:02:28.400" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I compile it every two, three,""" start="00:02:30.120" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I get it from master and compile it every two, three days.""" start="00:02:32.480" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And Yahoo, I had to change to Neumark,""" start="00:02:36.840" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I'm able now to get my vanilla Neumarks within four.""" start="00:02:40.600" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that was a big accomplishment in these last days.""" start="00:02:47.360" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What is the evolution?""" start="00:02:53.360" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean my personal evolution and my take of xLatex""" start="00:02:55.120" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""was I put everything in a in a latex file""" start="00:03:00.720" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I input it through the latex shader and that's it.""" start="00:03:05.920" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But that was not very beginner friendly""" start="00:03:09.960" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and once I had some people interested in this,""" start="00:03:12.320" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""oh wow I can modify the code on the fly""" start="00:03:15.720" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and see the results on the fly,""" start="00:03:19.160" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it was more difficult for them to give it a go.""" start="00:03:21.120" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I just, because they,""" start="00:03:26.720" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there are people who have not that big,""" start="00:03:32.360" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that much experience with LaTeX""" start="00:03:36.920" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and It can even be a bridge to introduce people into latex.""" start="00:03:41.160" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, in any case, it was not very beginner-friendly""" start="00:03:44.920" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I had complaints on that.""" start="00:03:48.960" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, what I think was, we can do better.""" start="00:03:52.800" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""My first attempt was something that was completely neutral""" start="00:03:57.160" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to Babel or Polyglosia.""" start="00:04:00.400" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it was made basically for font Lattesch""" start="00:04:02.880" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""although some of the things can for rural Lattesch""" start="00:04:06.200" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and some of the things can also be used with the latest.""" start="00:04:08.840" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So overriding template fonts""" start="00:04:14.280" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and taking into account pullback fonts""" start="00:04:16.520" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""was something that I learned uh uh""" start="00:04:21.280" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when we started this conversation""" start="00:04:23.840" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the only problem with this""" start="00:04:27.960" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is that fallback fonts only work for latex""" start="00:04:29.840" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and because uh because it doesn't support them""" start="00:04:34.800" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""actually for fallback points is a lua feature""" start="00:04:40.680" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There was already something in the list""" start="00:04:42.440" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""regarding script detection which helped me a lot.""" start="00:04:45.320" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So big recognition to Romano Lafias for that""" start="00:04:48.400" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and for his publishing the algorithm or 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The feature branch""" start="00:06:02.480" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""adds font management for font spec,""" start="00:06:05.800" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is not strictly needed""" start="00:06:09.000" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when you are on Latin, Cyrillic, and Greek scripts""" start="00:06:10.840" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as long as the fonts in your template support them.""" start="00:06:16.080" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But again, it's a nice way to get better support here.""" start="00:06:20.600" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You don't need it if you're happy with the fonts you get""" start="00:06:28.800" video="mainVideo-latex" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from the templates that you use both for Beamer""" start="00:06:33.040" video="mainVideo-latex" 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Please e-mail [ahyatt@gmail.com](mailto:ahyatt@gmail.com?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20llm%3A%20Emacs%2C%20editors%2C%20and%20LLM%20driven%20workflows) +<div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="llm-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""So let's, I'm just going to answer""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the questions as I see them on the pad.""" start="00:00:01.760" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yeah, this first question is really good.""" start="00:00:04.400" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I think it's actually this great thing""" start="00:00:07.080" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I did not mention is that like,""" start="00:00:09.920" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you have unsaved buffers,""" start="00:00:12.720" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is, you know, when you're actually doing editing,""" start="00:00:14.120" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""most buffers are unsaved.""" start="00:00:17.680" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""really you need something tightly integrated with Emacs""" start="00:00:22.000" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to deal with that.""" start="00:00:25.960" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So things like, you know,""" start="00:00:27.480" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I demonstrated Copilot,""" start="00:00:29.040" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I demonstrated Gptel,""" start="00:00:30.240" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""things like those things, things like Ellama,""" start="00:00:32.520" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""these things will all work with unsaved buffers""" start="00:00:35.440" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because they work via, you know, the input is the buffer.""" start="00:00:38.720" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as opposed to a file.""" start="00:00:43.960" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Things like Claude Code, Gemini Code, et cetera,""" start="00:00:45.200" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""those are working with files.""" start="00:00:48.520" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""They have no idea what is going on with your buffers.""" start="00:00:49.520" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it could be that you can solve this problem""" start="00:00:51.640" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""by using this thing called MCP,""" start="00:00:55.120" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which kind of gives the coding agent""" start="00:00:56.800" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a way to see anything in particular.""" start="00:01:02.840" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In this case, it would be Emacs""" start="00:01:05.120" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the state of your buffers.""" start="00:01:06.800" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I think that's not a particularly great solution""" start="00:01:07.800" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if that's how you want to work.""" start="00:01:11.320" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I think that's kind of like""" start="00:01:13.840" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you're in the Claude Code""" start="00:01:15.720" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that kind of world where you know things are happening,""" start="00:01:17.360" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""basically through a terminal.""" 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Yes. Yeah. Thank you for reminding me to.""" start="00:02:06.320" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I will read the questions from now on.""" start="00:02:11.720" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yes, that's what I think about.""" start="00:02:13.520" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that interesting questions about unsaved buffers.""" start="00:02:16.600" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The next question is,""" start="00:02:20.320" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't agree with the comment you made""" start="00:02:22.240" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about VS code usage dying out""" start="00:02:23.800" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I see companies and products""" start="00:02:25.200" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""pushing for tightly integrated agent""" start="00:02:26.720" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and products like Windsurf.""" start="00:02:28.880" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So thoughts on that?""" start="00:02:31.320" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, I mean, it's really hard""" start="00:02:33.240" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to be certain of anything,""" start="00:02:35.880" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like things are changing very fast""" start="00:02:37.000" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it's very hard to predict the future.""" start="00:02:38.440" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But the trend I see is that um,""" start="00:02:40.640" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the sort of outside editing experience""" start="00:02:47.840" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where you just kind of instruct a model,""" start="00:02:50.920" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what to do is getting better.""" start="00:02:53.520" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And as long as that keeps getting better,""" start="00:02:56.760" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think that's going to lessen the demand""" start="00:02:58.680" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for these tightly integrated editing experiences.""" start="00:03:00.840" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it could be that, um, a lot of people,""" start="00:03:04.880" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""especially in, you know, corporate environments""" start="00:03:10.840" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just start using,""" start="00:03:12.840" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""they're going to use whatever is""" start="00:03:14.280" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""going to make the most productive.""" start="00:03:15.600" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I think right now, it's not clear that that will be,""" start="00:03:17.960" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know, the very agent-based, you know,""" start="00:03:22.400" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""command line-centric way of doing things.""" start="00:03:25.080" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But it certainly, the trend is, if that continues,""" start="00:03:27.360" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think it probably will be like that.""" start="00:03:31.240" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I think we'll have to see.""" start="00:03:33.320" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't think your opinion is unreasonable.""" start="00:03:35.480" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I guess I'm kind of cautiously saying""" start="00:03:37.680" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think it's gonna be the opposite, but I guess we'll see.""" start="00:03:40.320" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like, let's reconvene in a year and see what happens.""" start="00:03:43.200" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Uh, the 3rd question answer,""" start="00:03:47.760" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""do you have any thoughts about the environmental costs""" start="00:03:49.160" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of using either the training""" start="00:03:55.320" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the models are we can download or use locally""" start="00:03:57.080" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or the larger commercial models used from the cloud.""" start="00:03:59.800" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um, I think. 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start="00:07:49.040" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think will make Emacs""" start="00:07:50.960" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""kind of a better environment""" start="00:07:53.960" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you want to do various editing like things in Emacs.""" start="00:07:55.560" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In, you know, in an editing environment,""" start="00:07:59.600" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I think just emails can edit""" start="00:08:05.360" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""more types of things I think will naturally""" start="00:08:07.120" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""be a bit more useful than VS code,""" start="00:08:09.240" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which people are really just using to edit code""" start="00:08:10.960" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] 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id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it is the thing you reach for to do that thing.""" start="00:09:00.280" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Is that touching on the point?""" start="00:09:03.000" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, that's a great way to say it.""" start="00:09:06.640" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you. 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Thank you for that question.""" start="00:09:12.440" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Do you think we're falling behind in productivity as Emacs users""" start="00:09:14.040" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""compared to all these VS code forks""" start="00:09:18.760" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that have a thousand button and text boxes everywhere,""" start="00:09:19.960" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which are basically much richer UIs,""" start="00:09:21.800" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which are basically web pages?""" start="00:09:24.320" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I do think Emacs is falling behind in some ways.""" start="00:09:25.720" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean, it's definitely showing its age a little bit,""" start="00:09:28.800" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""especially you mentioned richer UIs""" start="00:09:32.520" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that are basically web pages.""" start="00:09:35.080" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean, this I think is one of the big problems Emacs has""" start="00:09:36.520" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is that it uses a very, you know, a much more ancient way""" start="00:09:41.160" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of kind of doing UIs that is not particularly flexible""" start="00:09:46.480" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and not particularly comfortable for any modern UI coder.""" start="00:09:49.800" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I think if you look at the Emacs stuff out there,""" start="00:09:55.960" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like, yes, you can do a few things with UIs.""" start="00:09:58.640" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can have some amount of UI richness,""" start="00:10:01.960" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it's pretty limited.""" start="00:10:04.760" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I kind of, if there's one thing""" start="00:10:06.280" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I could wish for in Emacs,""" start="00:10:07.840" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's sort of like, I kind of wish Emacs could be on a,""" start="00:10:09.080" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""could be built on top of basically like Atom or something like that,""" start="00:10:12.520" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where it's like a web framework""" start="00:10:18.200" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that allows us to write actual rich pages,""" start="00:10:20.400" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""rich UIs in a modern style using things like CSS""" start="00:10:24.640" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""instead of the kinds of things Emacs lets you do.""" start="00:10:29.640" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But that said, that is an advantage""" start="00:10:33.600" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of VS Code and other editors like that.""" start="00:10:37.200" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think that Emacs does a good job""" start="00:10:38.960" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of eventually catching up""" start="00:10:45.080" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to all sorts of things people are doing in other editors.""" start="00:10:46.720" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's often that other editors get there first,""" start="00:10:49.760" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but there's a lot of momentum""" start="00:10:52.600" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to kind of keep Emacs fresh, keep it modern.""" start="00:10:55.480" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it's pretty easy to- I love that.""" start="00:10:57.840" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I forgot about the lag. We do have a little bit of lag,""" start="00:11:00.120" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I just, I find that very captivating.""" start="00:11:05.680" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We have with technologies""" start="00:11:08.000" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like Apache Cassandra in the database world,""" start="00:11:10.360" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we have this idea of eventual concurrency.""" start="00:11:12.400" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And you make me think with Emacs,""" start="00:11:14.880" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we have this idea of eventual feature parity, right?""" start="00:11:17.560" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If a feature stays desirable long enough,""" start="00:11:21.280" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Emacs will eventually grow it.""" start="00:11:23.920" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think that's a very contagious idea. 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And I hope it's correct,""" start="00:11:32.160" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I think that I do want Emacs to continue to succeed.""" start="00:11:35.840" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I personally, using Emacs,""" start="00:11:39.920" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""do not feel myself falling behind in productivity.""" start="00:11:43.440" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That said, there's a lot of ways that Emacs can improve""" start="00:11:46.480" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and should improve on this front.""" start="00:11:51.760" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And a lot of these ways are pretty fundamental.""" start="00:11:53.520" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I kind of hope people pay a lot of attention""" start="00:11:56.600" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to some of these more fundamental lower-level Emacs things""" start="00:11:59.720" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that really allows the packages""" start="00:12:02.440" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to do more richer and better things.""" start="00:12:04.880" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sorry, you have a ton of questions.""" start="00:12:07.600" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I shouldn't be doing so much active listening.""" start="00:12:10.360" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""No, no, I appreciate your input.""" start="00:12:12.280" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""OK, next is I've been using Claude Code extensively.""" start="00:12:17.480" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I recently switched to Agent Shell with Claude Code.""" start="00:12:23.080" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Have you tried it? 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I'll give you an example.""" start="00:18:23.840" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is something that I intend to, I think,""" start="00:18:29.320" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""post on Reddit in a few days,""" start="00:18:33.200" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I have a extension to eshell""" start="00:18:36.480" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where you can prefix a command with at,""" start="00:18:39.400" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then just tell it what you want to do,""" start="00:18:43.440" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it will substitute the command""" start="00:18:45.200" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you are thinking of. 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So it doesn't look quite clean.""" start="00:20:52.800" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And like, there's little artifacts,""" start="00:20:57.160" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or, you know, there's little ways that it,""" start="00:20:59.080" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it kind of gets things wrong,""" start="00:21:01.040" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or you can, you can get things wrong with it.""" start="00:21:02.360" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I think that, like,""" start="00:21:06.280" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there's a lot of issues with that sort of thing.""" start="00:21:10.040" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And, and also, like, you know,""" start="00:21:11.880" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what if you want to do something like play a video inline,""" start="00:21:15.760" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like, I don't know, you might should be able to do that,""" start="00:21:17.720" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you might should be able to do anything.""" start="00:21:19.560" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But right now it just can't and I think""" start="00:21:20.840" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a lot of the reason as well""" start="00:21:23.800" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we you know we wanted to be compatible""" start="00:21:25.000" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with you know TRS 80 machines or something like that""" start="00:21:26.520" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it's this is important this really is important,""" start="00:21:29.920" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I hope there's some way""" start="00:21:33.160" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that we can kind of eventually figure out""" start="00:21:34.720" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how to get the best of you know both compatibility and.""" start="00:21:36.080" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""more modern UIs. 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Um, yes.""" start="00:22:06.800" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So first of all, I want to thank everyone involved for listening.""" start="00:22:10.880" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I want to thank the core when I think thanks for moderating this.""" start="00:22:14.520" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And Sacha, thank you for putting that together.""" start="00:22:18.920" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I know there's more people""" start="00:22:21.280" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that are working behind the scenes.""" start="00:22:21.920" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So thank you all for putting this together.""" start="00:22:23.320" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm so happy that we all are here. We care about Emacs.""" start="00:22:25.080" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We're pushing Emacs forward.""" start="00:22:29.200" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We are I think Emacs remains""" start="00:22:31.200" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this really remarkable achievement.""" start="00:22:35.960" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like it's amazing that it exists. It continues to exist.""" start="00:22:37.280" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It hasn't got, it's hard.""" start="00:22:41.800" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's like, really, there's a lot of work to go into it.""" start="00:22:43.000" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I think let's all just appreciate everyone who,""" start="00:22:45.160" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""who like contributes and makes all of this possible.""" start="00:22:47.560" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Cause it's, if you ever read""" start="00:22:50.680" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the Emacs Develop mailing list,""" start="00:22:52.160" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's a lot of work, a lot of deep thinking,""" start="00:22:53.280" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a lot of careful thinking.""" start="00:22:55.480" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I think this is really important.""" start="00:22:56.680" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So thank you, especially to the maintainers of Emacs""" start="00:22:58.600" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and everyone who's contributing to the core experience,""" start="00:23:02.040" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""all the libraries, all the LLM stuff we mentioned before.""" start="00:23:04.200" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You're all doing such a fantastic job.""" start="00:23:07.760" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's exciting to be here. Thank you for your talk, Andrew.""" start="00:23:09.840" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's been just fascinating.""" start="00:23:13.800" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you don't mind, I'd love to jump""" start="00:23:16.160" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""right over to the last question. OK, let's do that.""" start="00:23:19.760" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It says, I have 45 plus years editing programming.""" start="00:23:23.880" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm not sure I can think about things""" start="00:23:27.600" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""without thinking of buffers, editors, et cetera.""" start="00:23:29.240" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Is this the handicap?""" start="00:23:31.040" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Should we have people with no experience""" start="00:23:31.960" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with code learning to prompt?""" start="00:23:34.240" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well, this is something I do have a strong opinion about.""" start="00:23:35.320" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I feel like I do not want to see people that have no experience""" start="00:23:38.800" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with code learning to prompt. I think it's very limited""" start="00:23:42.160" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what you could do right now with that.""" start="00:23:44.120" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like you could do, if you could sort of one-shot it,""" start="00:23:46.040" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that is like, I have something that's relatively easy,""" start="00:23:48.440" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it could do it, and I'm going to tell it to do it,""" start="00:23:52.000" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then I'm going to give feedback.""" start="00:23:54.880" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""OK, as long as this is for relatively short-lived things,""" start="00:23:56.040" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think that works well. 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And, and I think that it's those,""" start="00:25:06.320" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""those years of experience will only help you.""" start="00:25:13.080" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I think it's, it's, it's a great,""" start="00:25:14.840" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's great to kind of dip your toes in the water""" start="00:25:16.920" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and see what you can do.""" start="00:25:19.640" video="qanda-llm" id="subtitle"]] + +</div>Questions or comments? 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src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--main.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div></div>Duration: 20:04 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-llm">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--main.opus">Download --main.opus (17MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--main.webm">Download --main.webm (45MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/U3kbEabBJ_s">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> +# Q&A -<div class="vid mainVideo"><video controls preload="none" id="mainVideo-llm"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--main.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div></div>Duration: 20:04 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-llm">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-llm.html">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--main.opus">Download --main.opus (17MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--main.webm">Download --main.webm (45MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/U3kbEabBJ_s">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> +<div class="vid qanda"><video controls preload="none" id="qanda-llm"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--answers.m4v" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--answers.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div></div>Duration: 27:34 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-llm">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--answers.json">Download --answers.json</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--answers.m4v">Download --answers.m4v (94MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--answers.tsv">Download --answers.tsv</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--answers.txt">Download --answers.txt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--answers.vtt">Download --answers.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-llm--emacs-editors-and-llm-driven-workflows--andrew-hyatt--answers.webm">Download --answers.webm (91MB)</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/llm-nav.md b/2025/info/llm-nav.md index fcfbb800..ef42733a 100644 --- a/2025/info/llm-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/llm-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/calc">Basic Calc functionality for engineering or electronics</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/blee-lcnt">Blee-LCNT: An Emacs-centered content production and self-publication framework</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track Development">Development</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/dev">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/python">Interactive Python programming in Emacs</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/private-ai">Emacs and private AI: a great match</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track Development">Development</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/modern-before.md b/2025/info/modern-before.md index 86b09fda..f3830a2a 100644 --- a/2025/info/modern-before.md +++ b/2025/info/modern-before.md @@ -1,19 +1,13 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sun 2025-12-07. 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Hyperbole" data-slug="hyperboleqa"> <title> 1:45- 2:15 Questions and answers to help you fly with Hyperbole</title> <rect x="391" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="41" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(430,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> hyperboleqa</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/gardening" title="Gardening in Emacs: A Windows user's tale of tending, tweaking, and triumph" data-slug="gardening"> <title> 2:15- 2:35 Gardening in Emacs: A Windows user's tale of tending, tweaking, and triumph</title> <rect x="432" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="27" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(457,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> gardening</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/bookclub-tapas" title="Bookclub tapas" data-slug="bookclub-tapas"> <title> 2:45- 3:20 Bookclub tapas</title> <rect 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transform="translate(164,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 11 AM</text></g> <g transform="translate(247,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 12 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(329,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 1 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(411,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 2 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(494,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 3 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(576,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 4 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(658,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 5 PM</text></g></svg> -</div> - [[!toc ]] -Format: 20-min talk ; Q&A: IRC <https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-gen> Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-modern> +Format: 26-min talk ; Q&A: IRC Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-modern> Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-modern> -Discuss on IRC: [#emacsconf-gen](https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-gen) -Status: Q&A open for participation -<div>Times in different time zones:</div><div class="times" start="2025-12-07T14:10:00Z" end="2025-12-07T14:30:00Z"><div class="conf-time">Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~9:10 AM - 9:30 AM EST (US/Eastern)</div><div class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~8:10 AM - 8:30 AM CST (US/Central)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~7:10 AM - 7:30 AM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~6:10 AM - 6:30 AM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~2:10 PM - 2:30 PM UTC <br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~3:10 PM - 3:30 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~4:10 PM - 4:30 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~7:40 PM - 8:00 PM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~10:10 PM - 10:30 PM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~11:10 PM - 11:30 PM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><strong><a href="/2025/watch/gen/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></strong></div> +Status: TO_REVIEW_QA + -<div class="vid mainVideo"><div></div><div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-modern">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-gen">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-modern--some-problems-of-modernizing-emacs--eduardo-ochs--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-modern--some-problems-of-modernizing-emacs--eduardo-ochs--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-modern--some-problems-of-modernizing-emacs--eduardo-ochs--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-modern--some-problems-of-modernizing-emacs--eduardo-ochs--original.mp4">Download --original.mp4 (35MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-modern--some-problems-of-modernizing-emacs--eduardo-ochs--original.vtt">Download --original.vtt</a></li></ul></div></div> +<div class="vid mainVideo"><video controls preload="none" id="mainVideo-modern"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-modern--some-problems-of-modernizing-emacs--eduardo-ochs--original.mp4" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-modern--some-problems-of-modernizing-emacs--eduardo-ochs--main.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. 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Please e-mail [emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org](mailto:emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20open-mic%3A%20Open%20session) +<div class="transcript transcript-mainVideo"><a name="open-mic-mainVideo-transcript"></a><h1>Transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""All right, so yes, we have a little bit of time""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""while we are waiting for the dev track to finish,""" start="00:00:03.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and we could just declare this as a break,""" start="00:00:05.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or if anyone's got any interesting last-minute stuff,""" start="00:00:08.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can come and share it here,""" start="00:00:12.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where Karthik is also hanging out.""" start="00:00:17.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think every time I read one of your long blog posts,""" start="00:00:20.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Karthik, I'm like, mm, life goals.""" start="00:00:23.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Someday I want to write something with nice diagrams""" start="00:00:25.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and, you know, deep Emacs interestingness.""" start="00:00:28.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have not yet gotten the hang of even using avy""" start="00:00:31.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to nearly the extent that you do.""" start="00:00:34.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yes, I have, I have always looked""" start="00:00:38.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""at your diagrams very longingly""" start="00:00:40.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and wondered how you make them.""" start="00:00:42.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""With a lot of sweat and cursing, unfortunately.""" start="00:00:44.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's all very nice. Yeah.""" start="00:00:51.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I, I, I've seen your interactive SVGs,""" start="00:00:54.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is just wizardry. I have no idea how you do that.""" start="00:00:58.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can hover over different elements in the SVG""" start="00:01:02.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and do interesting things.""" start="00:01:06.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, so it turns out if you just think of them as XML,""" start="00:01:08.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which Emacs will let you""" start="00:01:11.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because you can just control C, control C,""" start="00:01:13.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it'll switch back to text mode, right?""" start="00:01:15.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Then you can be like, oh, yeah, I can work with this""" start="00:01:16.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""using the DOM Emacs list library.""" start="00:01:20.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then you can add title elements to it to get the hovers,""" start="00:01:23.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or you can add hyperlinks.""" start="00:01:28.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So in fact, the emacs-conf schedule""" start="00:01:31.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is very naturally generated from emacs-lisp itself,""" start="00:01:35.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because there was no way I was going to handle""" start="00:01:41.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""two track schedules by hand.""" start="00:01:43.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that's just SVG so that you can then have the hovers.""" start="00:01:45.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The important thing is that when you're exporting it to HTML,""" start="00:01:49.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it has to be an inline SVG to get the fancy behaviors.""" start="00:01:53.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you're linking it in as an image, then it doesn't work.""" start="00:01:57.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It has to be inline. So for example, for my org mode,""" start="00:02:02.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have my exports for images checked first if it's an SVG.""" start="00:02:09.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And unless I have an attribute""" start="00:02:14.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on it that says, no, just link to it because it's large and not interactive,""" start="00:02:15.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it actually inlines all of that markup""" start="00:02:20.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""into the exported HTML, if that makes sense.""" start="00:02:22.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That does, that does make sense.""" start="00:02:26.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's a little less mysterious now.""" start="00:02:34.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""On the plus side, once it is in there as inline HTML,""" start="00:02:36.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""well, inline, you know, it's an inline markup,""" start="00:02:40.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can actually play around with it""" start="00:02:42.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""using JavaScript or CSS. That's really neat.""" start="00:02:44.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I had a question about some other SVG wizardry I've seen you do.""" start="00:03:01.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You have these SVGs that grow, right?""" start="00:03:07.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like they accumulate elements, almost like a slideshow.""" start="00:03:09.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Am I remembering that correctly? Yeah, yeah, yeah.""" start="00:03:15.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I started using that for one""" start="00:03:20.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the EmacsConf presentations.""" start="00:03:22.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well, the one EmacsConf presentation""" start="00:03:24.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've done in recent history,""" start="00:03:26.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it's nice to be able to add things gradually, right?""" start="00:03:27.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Especially as you're giving a presentation.""" start="00:03:31.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that's also done with Emacs Lisp.""" start="00:03:35.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What I do is, first I make the image, and then in Inkscape,""" start="00:03:38.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can group together the elements""" start="00:03:43.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I want to appear at the same time.""" start="00:03:46.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then I can use Emacs to, I think I just changed the,""" start="00:03:49.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I just add some CSS to them to make them dimmer.""" start="00:03:54.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you just iterate through the different groups in that level,""" start="00:04:01.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you write out the intermediate SVG files,""" start="00:04:04.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then you can use Inkscape""" start="00:04:09.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to convert them into PNGs if you want,""" start="00:04:12.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like images of each step""" start="00:04:14.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that are in PNG format instead of SVG.""" start="00:04:16.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But the basic idea is you group""" start="00:04:18.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the elements together that you want in one step,""" start="00:04:20.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then you can manipulate it""" start="00:04:24.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""using the Emacs DOM.EL library,""" start="00:04:25.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it's just an XML document.""" start="00:04:30.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you can say, all right, hide everything or have everything visible""" start="00:04:32.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then remove the last one or something like that, you know, iterated.""" start="00:04:38.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Show them one at a time and then write your resulting document object model""" start="00:04:43.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to a new file each step. Do you have, that makes sense.""" start="00:04:50.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So do you just write the e-list,""" start="00:05:05.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like is this on a case-by-case basis?""" start="00:05:09.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like every time you need to do this,""" start="00:05:12.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""do you write fresh e-list to step through the SVG this way?""" start="00:05:13.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Or do you have some kind of package""" start="00:05:18.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or library to do this more?""" start="00:05:22.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me go see if this is the one.""" start="00:05:27.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's probably just buried in my config.""" start="00:05:33.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If I do it again, I'm sure I will find another thing""" start="00:05:39.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I've completely forgotten about""" start="00:05:46.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and therefore have to recode or fix or whatever.""" start="00:05:51.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But let me go see. Can you see my screen? Yep. OK.""" start="00:05:56.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, oh, yeah, yeah, this one. Nice, I remember that one.""" start="00:06:03.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""OK, so we get this SVG, and then this animateSVGPaths""" start="00:06:07.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is just a function I have. It takes the file name.""" start="00:06:13.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It makes an output there. It adds one path back at a time.""" start="00:06:16.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it just creates a lot of these numbered frames.""" start="00:06:22.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So as you can see here,""" start="00:06:25.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm just saying, OK, take the whole thing.""" start="00:06:27.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then I think, yeah, maybe I said it like,""" start="00:06:30.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know, take the whole thing,""" start="00:06:34.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""make everything transparent,""" start="00:06:37.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then one at a time, make them opaque""" start="00:06:40.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and save that, save that to the frame, to the image.""" start="00:06:45.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So this theoretically is a somewhat reusable function""" start="00:06:50.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that takes the SVG and just fills the directory with it.""" start="00:06:54.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What's the order in which it reveals things?""" start="00:07:01.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Top to bottom or bottom to top, it's whatever the SVG has.""" start="00:07:03.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so if you're grouping things together,""" start="00:07:12.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can rearrange things in Inkscape.""" start="00:07:15.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you've given them IDs,""" start="00:07:17.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which I have another function for in Emacs list""" start="00:07:22.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that just highlights something""" start="00:07:25.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and lets me put an ID for it,""" start="00:07:26.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then you can rearrange them yourself""" start="00:07:28.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""by looking at the markup, I guess.""" start="00:07:30.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Or I think I actually have some code also""" start="00:07:32.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that will rearrange the path""" start="00:07:35.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""based on a list of IDs that I give it.""" start="00:07:37.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and sequence so this one is animating""" start="00:07:39.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""one element at a time here""" start="00:07:42.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""um it's kind of like interesting effect""" start="00:07:44.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but for larger things like for this one""" start="00:07:47.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""i can split this up into groups""" start="00:07:49.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because i don't want to necessarily animate them letter by letter and that one""" start="00:07:52.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh yes, this is the function that I have""" start="00:07:59.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for identifying the paths""" start="00:08:03.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it highlights it and then it asks me for a name.""" start="00:08:05.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And this is the one that reorders it.""" start="00:08:08.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I can say, this is the sequence""" start="00:08:11.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I want it animated in. And it will, yeah, good.""" start="00:08:14.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you don't actually need Inkscape at all, right?""" start="00:08:19.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Because you have an elisp function""" start="00:08:23.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that will let you assign the order interactively.""" start="00:08:25.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, so if you're doing just all the elements one after the other,""" start="00:08:28.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Inkscape is helpful for combining the different shapes,""" start="00:08:34.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""well, breaking it apart,""" start="00:08:39.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because when I get the PDF and I convert it,""" start="00:08:41.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's like one big element that has a very complex path.""" start="00:08:44.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And if I want to animate it element by element,""" start="00:08:48.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have to break it apart""" start="00:08:52.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then recombine it so that, you know, so that this O looks like it's hollow""" start="00:08:53.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""instead of like a circle.""" start="00:08:59.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So there's a little bit of Inkscape""" start="00:09:01.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""cleaning up before then,""" start="00:09:02.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I really dislike the mouse heavy stuff of Inkscape""" start="00:09:04.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for assigning IDs and things like that.""" start="00:09:08.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I haven't quite gotten the hang of it.""" start="00:09:12.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So this is what it looks like""" start="00:09:14.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""before you group the elements together""" start="00:09:16.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you combine paths,""" start="00:09:17.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is what you have to do Inkscape for,""" start="00:09:20.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I can't make sense of the numbers in Emacs someday.""" start="00:09:22.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So just combine, combine, combine. But once it's there,""" start="00:09:24.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't like having to set the ID in this""" start="00:09:30.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""object properties on the right side,""" start="00:09:32.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because there's a lot of clicking.""" start="00:09:34.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""press escape and tab and tab, it's not reliable.""" start="00:09:36.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's why I have this function""" start="00:09:40.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it lets me identify the paths and animate them""" start="00:09:42.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from within Emacs, because Emacs is a text editor.""" start="00:09:46.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, in name only, but anyway.""" start="00:09:51.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So the groups, if you've already assigned groups in Inkscape,""" start="00:09:55.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Then when you run it through this function in Emacs,""" start="00:10:02.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can assign an ordering to the groups,""" start="00:10:06.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the order in which it will be revealed.""" start="00:10:09.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah. What I did was I gave it all IDs.""" start="00:10:10.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I gave each group an ID.""" start="00:10:15.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then when I have the ID, I can say, you know, maybe when I group it,""" start="00:10:17.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm doing it in a bit of a haphazard way,""" start="00:10:26.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""not grouping the first thing first,""" start="00:10:28.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then the second thing, and the third thing.""" start="00:10:30.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it's a bit of a mess.""" start="00:10:32.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And this one just resorts it by, I think,""" start="00:10:34.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just looking everything up, storing it,""" start="00:10:38.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then putting it back in order.""" start="00:10:41.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I probably have the code for this somewhere,""" start="00:10:45.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and if it's not, it's in the source code.""" start="00:10:49.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There should be a source.""" start="00:10:52.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, so this is an org source for this post,""" start="00:10:53.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and if it's not in there, then it should be in my config,""" start="00:10:57.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the definition of this function.""" start="00:11:01.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We are to pass. Here we are. Yeah, there you go.""" start="00:11:03.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So there, it just, it takes it, it looks for it,""" start="00:11:11.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it adds it to the first layer.""" start="00:11:17.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, you've just explained the magic,""" start="00:11:19.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which makes it less magical,""" start="00:11:29.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but also something I could try. Yeah, this is interesting.""" start="00:11:31.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, S2G is surprisingly powerful. Yeah, I know.""" start="00:11:36.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I know it can do a lot more""" start="00:11:41.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""than what we typically use it for.""" start="00:11:43.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you also had this feature where, I think you used CSS,""" start="00:11:46.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where if you mouse over something in the SVG,""" start="00:11:53.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""something is highlighted in your webpage.""" start="00:11:56.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Like in the organizer's notebook.""" start="00:11:58.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I have a draft schedule here.""" start="00:12:04.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, we've been doing all this stuff live, that schedule,""" start="00:12:07.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where if you have, let's pick someone's talk.""" start="00:12:10.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, yeah, highlight.""" start="00:12:16.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think, oh, maybe it's the other way around.""" start="00:12:22.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I need to put this stuff here first. Oh yeah, okay.""" start="00:12:26.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you'll notice here how if I add some JavaScript,""" start="00:12:30.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it takes a look at what's in the URL.""" start="00:12:33.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And if so, then it can highlight a specific thing""" start="00:12:36.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""using just, maybe CSS might be it.""" start="00:12:38.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Actually, I think it's JavaScript setting the CSS style on it.""" start="00:12:41.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yeah, you can play around with CSS.""" start="00:12:47.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""See, this one has a slightly darker,""" start="00:12:51.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""slightly thicker background. So SVGs are great for that.""" start="00:12:53.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And if you inspect it,""" start="00:12:59.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which I don't think I have shared here,""" start="00:13:01.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but if you inspect it, I will share my inspect.""" start="00:13:03.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have too many windows open,""" start="00:13:07.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I don't want to share my whole thing.""" start="00:13:10.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But one of these, oh, I don't even know which, how do I find, okay,""" start="00:13:12.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's the developer tools window.""" start="00:13:19.075" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Do I even have developer tools? Oh, I can't see it. OK.""" start="00:13:20.367" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you inspect the page on the developer thingy,""" start="00:13:25.325" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then it will show the SVG element. Yeah.""" start="00:13:29.492" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And unfortunately, I can't share it easily right now.""" start="00:13:38.117" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Maybe just say inspect. Oh, this is actually, I think,""" start="00:13:41.241" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how also the individual talks have current ones, right?""" start="00:13:46.617" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I just have this image over here,""" start="00:13:55.117" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then you just have that one,""" start="00:14:00.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that specific talk styled differently.""" start="00:14:01.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""How did you generate this SVG,""" start="00:14:06.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the one showing the schedule?""" start="00:14:13.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, okay, okay. Emacs. Book, book, book, book.""" start="00:14:14.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Emacs publish, I think. Let me share it. Emacs conf pub.""" start="00:14:24.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""One of these windows. Okay, let's see.""" start="00:14:29.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Slow down, look at all the windows.""" start="00:14:36.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, I'm just gonna share the whole screen.""" start="00:14:39.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Screen two, no, screen one. All right, and okay.""" start="00:14:40.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think this is the one. Is it sharing my screen?""" start="00:14:50.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It is not sharing my screen. I'm going to try this again.""" start="00:15:05.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay. All right. So, the schedule. The schedule.""" start="00:15:08.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is the actual function""" start="00:15:23.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that creates the SVG rectangles for the talks.""" start="00:15:24.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oops. My screen share ended. Let me do that again.""" start="00:15:28.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, and as you can see,""" start="00:15:35.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's just a little bit of math for the X, the Y,""" start="00:15:41.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we color it differently""" start="00:15:45.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""depending on whether I'm making the schedule for the public view.""" start="00:15:48.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So we just, you know, do we do developer, development talk""" start="00:15:52.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or general talk as colors,""" start="00:15:58.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or if I want to color it for the backstage view,""" start="00:15:59.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can keep track of the talk's status.""" start="00:16:02.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Anyway, so SDG track takes the track""" start="00:16:04.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and all the talk information,""" start="00:16:07.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it makes all the little rectangles.""" start="00:16:09.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And this is the thing that adds a little hover""" start="00:16:11.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for the times and titles as well.""" start="00:16:15.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, Emacs's API for dealing with this is actually pretty good.""" start="00:16:17.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, and of course, I have a hook here that modifies it.""" start="00:16:22.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can just run through a different function,""" start="00:16:27.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""different functions to tweak it.""" start="00:16:30.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I could say, okay, color it in case my time constraints are,""" start="00:16:32.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know, not being met.""" start="00:16:36.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then I can paint about this somewhere.""" start="00:16:37.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And the nice thing about this""" start="00:16:40.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is it's actually, it's, you can, hang on a second, let me do this carefully.""" start="00:16:51.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, here you go.""" start="00:17:06.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's super nice to be able to refer to it within Emacs itself""" start="00:17:08.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because Emacs has SVG support.""" start="00:17:13.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So this is, for example, the organizer view""" start="00:17:15.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""inside an org mode file. And it just has all those SVGs.""" start="00:17:19.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It don't have the hover things,""" start="00:17:24.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it's just an image in it.""" start="00:17:25.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yeah, SVGs, Emacs, awesome. Oh, that's very cool.""" start="00:17:27.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You're actually drawing the rectangles from scratch.""" start="00:17:37.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It took a little bit of figuring out,""" start="00:17:40.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""especially since I realized""" start="00:17:45.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I wanted horizontal on the wiki pages""" start="00:17:46.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that it fits on people's screens,""" start="00:17:49.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I wanted vertical in my organized review""" start="00:17:51.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that I don't have to keep tilting my head sideways.""" start="00:17:56.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and this is the code for that.""" start="00:18:09.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""See, I'm just directly adding G nodes for groups""" start="00:18:12.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or A nodes for the hyperlinks and rep as well.""" start="00:18:19.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think the SVG library also has functions""" start="00:18:23.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for adding rectangles and things like that,""" start="00:18:27.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but sometimes I vaguely remember""" start="00:18:31.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""sometimes you can't return the node that I'm expecting.""" start="00:18:32.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, it's okay to just use the DOM functions directly.""" start="00:18:35.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then the whole thing gets SVG printed afterwards.""" start="00:18:40.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I can just say SVG printed, and then it's good to go.""" start="00:18:46.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me see. Actually, do I have SVG?""" start="00:18:54.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's schedule for track SVG.""" start="00:18:57.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's a shame that you can't visually interact""" start="00:19:05.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with parts of an SVG in Emacs the way you can in Emacs.""" start="00:19:08.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, some people have some interesting experiments with that.""" start="00:19:11.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I haven't dug into it much,""" start="00:19:16.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but people have figured out how to use the mouse events""" start="00:19:18.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then figure out what the, like there's LEC draw, right?""" start="00:19:21.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So lecdraw is a package that lets you draw SVGs""" start="00:19:26.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you can drag things and whatever. So that's very cool.""" start="00:19:30.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And there's also an org related package""" start="00:19:33.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that lets you visualize your schedule as boxes.""" start="00:19:37.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'd like, yeah, that's a thing also.""" start="00:19:43.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So people have experimented""" start="00:19:45.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with mouse interaction and it's cool,""" start="00:19:46.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I haven't had the brain space to do that yet,""" start="00:19:49.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it would be nice. Yeah, you're right.""" start="00:19:51.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I remember using easy draw""" start="00:19:55.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and being surprised at what it can do.""" start="00:19:58.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The only thing I think I discovered""" start="00:20:02.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is that it ends up creating lots of new SVGs,""" start="00:20:05.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""kind of the way that you do""" start="00:20:10.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when you show elements one by one,""" start="00:20:13.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you are essentially creating one SVG for each state,""" start="00:20:14.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""one full SVG for each intermediate state of the presentation, let's say.""" start="00:20:19.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's kind of what ELEasyDraw does.""" start="00:20:24.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I thought that's not good for performance.""" start="00:20:26.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it is kind of on the slow side,""" start="00:20:30.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you compare it to like Inkscape or anything else.""" start="00:20:33.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yeah, what it can do is pretty amazing.""" start="00:20:37.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can dynamically modify an SVG object,""" start="00:20:40.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it will automatically get updated in Emacs,""" start="00:20:44.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is a technique that I use a lot in FFNS in subbed.""" start="00:20:48.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So for example, if I have waveform show all in this,""" start="00:20:52.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it will, like, it's very easy to just move one element, for example,""" start="00:20:57.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or make an element larger or smaller.""" start="00:21:03.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that's the... 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Maybe we can get that to be faster too. Yeah.""" start="00:27:10.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I see a lot of potential for better UIs in Emacs""" start="00:27:13.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with using SVGs. Yeah.""" start="00:27:19.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Nicolas Rougier has all those experiments, right?""" start="00:27:22.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, but all of those, I think, are bound by the limitations""" start="00:27:26.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of how deeply SVGs are embedded in the display engine,""" start="00:27:30.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because that's kind of what we're discussing.""" start="00:27:33.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We want to avoid going to XML,""" start="00:27:36.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean, going from XML to Elisp DOM""" start="00:27:38.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to modified Elisp DOM back to XML.""" start="00:27:41.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We want to avoid that round trip. Yeah, for sure.""" start="00:27:44.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Or make that as fast as possible, yeah.""" start="00:27:50.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Does anyone else have anything they want to share?""" start="00:28:04.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've always got stuff I can share,""" start="00:28:11.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I pretty happily defer. I've already seen what I made.""" start="00:28:13.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Karthik? Oh, I'm a fly on a wall here. I'm not.""" start="00:28:17.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay. I didn't come in with the intent to share anything.""" start="00:28:28.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah. How about you, Sacha?""" start="00:28:32.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Do you have other stuff you haven't shown off recently?""" start="00:28:34.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Aside from all the panicking""" start="00:28:38.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about getting EmacsConf together this year?""" start="00:28:39.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I just wanted to bring it up.""" start="00:28:42.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, let's see, what do I have in my recent, like, fiddled with?""" start="00:28:45.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I have a project called...""" start="00:28:50.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have a project called Ufta, which is a little bit fun.""" start="00:28:54.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me pull it up here before I share.""" start="00:28:56.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can see my messy, messy desktop. 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Did you hear back from him?""" start="00:29:50.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Assume that's a yes.""" start="00:30:00.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, I'll go ahead and share screen here""" start="00:30:01.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and just take a look, a very brief look at this.""" start="00:30:04.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Assuming I can present. I had a question for Sacha.""" start="00:30:08.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I had a question for Sacha and you, Corbin.""" start="00:30:16.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hello. Yeah, you're good. Go for it. Yeah, yeah.""" start="00:30:22.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So in past years, in the EmacsConf,""" start="00:30:28.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there was a talk by someone,""" start="00:30:33.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""usually John Wheatley, or I think Philip last year,""" start="00:30:36.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about new developments in Emacs.""" start="00:30:41.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, and that is kind of at the whim""" start="00:30:44.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the Emacs developers,""" start="00:30:48.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""whether that is included in the in the conference.""" start="00:30:50.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's kind of up to the, you know, how busy folks are""" start="00:30:56.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and whether somebody can follow up the time to prepare it.""" start="00:30:59.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I see. Yeah, I noticed that there wasn't one for this year.""" start="00:31:02.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I know of at least one improvement""" start="00:31:07.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or one change to Emacs.""" start="00:31:10.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's small, but I'm guessing it's very crucial""" start="00:31:12.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for a certain class of Emacs users.""" start="00:31:17.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I can talk about that, just that one thing.""" start="00:31:20.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But you can, you can, you can go right.""" start="00:31:24.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I can't share anything and we've got about one minute.""" start="00:31:29.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So have that. Okay. Um, so the change is that, uh,""" start="00:31:32.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in the development version of Emacs,""" start="00:31:39.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""sorry, child frames are now supported""" start="00:31:41.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in terminal in the terminal.""" start="00:31:46.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I suspect that not many people know about it yet,""" start="00:31:53.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but basically this means something like Corfu is going to work fine""" start="00:31:56.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when you're running Emacs in a terminal,""" start="00:32:03.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as well as pause frames or anything that shows like a little pop-up window""" start="00:32:05.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that previously did not work in Terminal Emacs.""" start="00:32:14.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's it. That's the update. Cool.""" start="00:32:19.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, there I have a share screen button.""" start="00:32:27.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We'll see if I think we're just about to cut away,""" start="00:32:29.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I'll go ahead and see if I can get this going.""" start="00:32:32.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll just share my whole screen""" start="00:32:34.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and this will be a little ugly as it comes in.""" start="00:32:36.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So this is a project that I think is a little bit fun.""" start="00:32:39.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's called Oopda. And basically what this does,""" start="00:32:44.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can see it on my source site,""" start="00:32:47.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's sr.ht tilde mplscorewin slash Oopda.""" start="00:32:49.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""O-F-D-A, and this is a very simple approach""" start="00:32:55.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to using an org file as a replacement for SQLite.""" start="00:32:59.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's very simple, but it does support like a dot style path and notation.""" start="00:33:04.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you can get at deeply nested data""" start="00:33:12.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and just gives a little,""" start="00:33:16.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there's a shell script wrapper that comes with it.""" start="00:33:19.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right.""" start="00:33:24.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Theoretically, this is the Q&A for the graphics talk.""" start="00:33:26.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oops, I have to unmute over here. Sorry.""" start="00:33:32.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, I had a little audio bleed through,""" start="00:33:38.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""my apologies, can you still hear me?""" start="00:33:53.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, I'm gonna guess,""" start="00:34:02.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I still see us live on the screen""" start="00:34:03.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that we're still live. All right, so I'll just press on.""" start="00:34:05.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So what we're looking at here is a project called Upta.""" start="00:34:12.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Here's the Emacs Lisp source port.""" start="00:34:18.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can see it's not real impressive""" start="00:34:21.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""even with all of its boilerplate.""" start="00:34:23.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's under 200 lines of code.""" start="00:34:24.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And this is kind of a proof of concept,""" start="00:34:27.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""giving us the ability to use a org.org file""" start="00:34:30.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as a flat file database. The intention here is to get""" start="00:34:35.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a kind of transition from SQLite,""" start="00:34:38.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is using a flat text file as a database,""" start="00:34:40.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to being able to have more of a literate database""" start="00:34:44.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where we can intermix documentation about the data""" start="00:34:48.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with the data itself,""" start="00:34:52.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then by giving a path on the command line.""" start="00:34:54.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll go back to the README, just take a look at that.""" start="00:34:57.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And you can see there's a couple of kind of examples here""" start="00:35:02.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where we're, here we would be querying a path.""" start="00:35:05.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We can also provide a value""" start="00:35:11.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and that'll set data into the file.""" start="00:35:15.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It also has an optional first parameter""" start="00:35:20.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to specify the specific org file by default.""" start="00:35:23.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It looks for a file called data.org.""" start="00:35:26.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And of course that can be used inside Emacs as well,""" start="00:35:29.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""although the value of that may be a little bit limited""" start="00:35:34.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""compared to more sophisticated""" start="00:35:37.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""technologies like org-element.""" start="00:35:39.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is not an implementation""" start="00:35:41.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that mirrors all of org-element""" start="00:35:43.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or any of the more complex functionality of org.""" start="00:35:47.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's really as simple as possible proof of concept""" start="00:35:50.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to just to be able to kind of work""" start="00:35:52.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with the data inside an org file""" start="00:35:57.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and get it back out on the command line.""" start="00:35:59.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So we'll see if we can make it work here.""" start="00:36:01.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Corwin, could you increase the font size?""" start="00:36:07.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I surely will. All right. How's that?""" start="00:36:13.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's my picture. Yeah. Okay. Cool.""" start="00:36:27.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, let's see if we do have a, well, we can probably make it.""" start="00:36:31.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's do this.""" start="00:36:39.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, and then in theory, this just works.""" start="00:37:00.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So we'll cut.""" start="00:37:05.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So we'll just create a data file called data.org.""" start="00:37:42.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Make sure that works. Looks reasonable.""" start="00:37:45.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's try adding some data to it. Hmm, not so happy.""" start="00:37:50.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, let's try it the hard way.""" start="00:38:13.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll come back over here to my usage""" start="00:38:17.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and we'll just try running it.""" start="00:38:21.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Is Emacs, is finding Emacs really the issue?""" start="00:38:23.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It seems to me it's not, it's not liking my path.""" start="00:38:37.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's not finding out that I do EO and PWD.""" start="00:38:41.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It wants it to be on the log. I see.""" start="00:38:44.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I may have to even mess with that further,""" start="00:38:49.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but we'll just try it.""" start="00:38:54.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So this should retrieve the value if it works.""" start="00:38:55.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, and let's take a take a simple""" start="00:39:04.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, add-to-list takes a symbol.""" start="00:39:17.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We're going to have issues with bash quoting,""" start="00:39:47.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so you should escape the quoting side.""" start="00:39:52.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Gotcha. You're kidding.""" start="00:39:58.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm not letting go. Whoa. That might work.""" start="00:40:27.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I got my parents right. Never demo live. How exciting. OK.""" start="00:40:36.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Without batch, though, we may not get our output. OK.""" start="00:41:02.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well, that's as far as I'm going to take it.""" start="00:41:13.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I should have prepped a demo environment.""" start="00:41:20.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I wasn't really prepared to demo. No worries.""" start="00:41:21.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Couple of questions about this feature.""" start="00:41:26.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The first question is, do you use it? I do use it, yeah.""" start="00:41:30.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I should have gotten onto the environment""" start="00:41:37.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where I'm using it. It's a little messy.""" start="00:41:41.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It gets into another project""" start="00:41:45.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's way too complicated to get into.""" start="00:41:47.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, but what kinds of things do you use it for?""" start="00:41:48.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's sort of hard to answer""" start="00:41:53.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that without getting into my other project,""" start="00:41:57.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but essentially I've got a web development tool chain""" start="00:41:59.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that is kind of a web-based REPL""" start="00:42:02.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that is kind of a literate compute environment, if you will,""" start="00:42:05.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""allowing me to use a bunch of virtual machines""" start="00:42:10.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as one big computer. That project is called Ghost Wheel.""" start="00:42:13.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so in order to show off the homepage,""" start="00:42:19.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So on this page, you can see the list of machines,""" start="00:42:23.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then you'll also see there's these state indicators.""" start="00:42:30.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And right now, as a matter of fact,""" start="00:42:34.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what I've been hacking on""" start="00:42:38.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is trying to get support for org tables.""" start="00:42:41.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Right now, I support only changing all of the data""" start="00:42:44.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""within some heading, subheading, or whatever.""" start="00:42:48.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What I'd like to be able to do is specify,""" start="00:42:51.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""using org table fm syntax, the particular row column.""" start="00:42:55.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So find a particular named table,""" start="00:43:01.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""find a particular row, you know,""" start="00:43:03.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""column one, you know, row two, column one,""" start="00:43:06.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then set the value from the command.""" start="00:43:08.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Currently, I just use it for very simple stuff.""" start="00:43:11.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't really want to show that off.""" start="00:43:18.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've got another page that lists all of the DNS names""" start="00:43:20.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that are associated that are hosted on Ghostwheel.""" start="00:43:23.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so I use that to add items to the list.""" start="00:43:26.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Does it make sense? Yeah, it sounds useful.""" start="00:43:29.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So one thing that I would like,""" start="00:43:40.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I guess it's easy enough to write,""" start="00:43:47.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but is a tool exactly like this""" start="00:43:51.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where I can query my org files from the command line?""" start="00:43:58.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, that's exactly what it says.""" start="00:44:03.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, but it's going to be more""" start="00:44:06.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like a database query where, you know, I say select, select all headings where, you know,""" start="00:44:14.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that contain this string or that have this tag, right?""" start="00:44:23.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The kinds of things that you can do with org-ql from outside, from inside Emacs, right?""" start="00:44:27.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""To be able to do those from the command line with,""" start="00:44:38.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm going to invoke SQL here, like SQL SELECT statements,""" start="00:44:41.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it doesn't have to be that syntax, right?""" start="00:44:48.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Just that capability.""" start="00:44:50.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, I can see that being useful as a command line tool.""" start="00:44:52.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I don't even care about write,""" start="00:44:57.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like the ability to write or manipulate the file.""" start="00:44:59.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Just query. the command line that sounds yeah yeah exactly""" start="00:45:02.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to be able to dig a piece of data out of an org file as well""" start="00:45:11.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for my purpose it's very useful to be able to replace it""" start="00:45:15.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because then i can deal with submit the form you know""" start="00:45:18.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and that might be like a sign up form""" start="00:45:21.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then i just add the user add up an entry into the org file""" start="00:45:24.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for that user right what it doesn't do is a relational data""" start="00:45:29.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So everything, it's essentially a document data store.""" start="00:45:35.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like a Mongo kind of. True. So over on IRC, ScrewLisp asks,""" start="00:45:40.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what does it mean to query an ARC file?""" start="00:45:53.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Is the data in a table? Is it in an ELISP nested list view""" start="00:45:57.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of a table that has a name in ARC?""" start="00:46:01.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And my answer to that is that if you ever used RQL,""" start="00:46:06.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""written by Alpha Papa,""" start="00:46:10.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then that's the kind of thing I'm talking about.""" start="00:46:14.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, you query based on one of a set of attributes.""" start="00:46:18.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And these attributes are anything that's recognized by ARC.""" start="00:46:23.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""For example, the to-do status, the dates,""" start="00:46:30.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the outline path, the headings, a full text search.""" start="00:46:35.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There are several more.""" start="00:46:40.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The presence or absence of certain properties.""" start="00:46:43.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""using any combination of those if you want to dig down""" start="00:46:46.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and find some data in an art file.""" start="00:46:50.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's the kind of query I'm talking about.""" start="00:46:52.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It is somewhat equivalent""" start="00:46:56.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to being able to write SQL queries""" start="00:46:58.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where you match on things just for your art files.""" start="00:47:02.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay. I think we might have figured out our problem.""" start="00:47:09.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It was DOS encoding. See if that works.""" start="00:47:21.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I switched the development track over""" start="00:47:38.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to just watching the gen track since I couldn't find it.""" start="00:47:47.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Also, Eludo wants to mention""" start="00:47:53.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the Emacs Carnival theme for December.""" start="00:47:57.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, the people of Emacs,""" start="00:48:00.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of which you are all very awesome.""" start="00:48:02.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you so much for your patience.""" start="00:48:04.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Today has been very interesting.""" start="00:48:05.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yes, at some point we can show that too.""" start="00:48:08.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And we can basically wrap up anytime we like""" start="00:48:13.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or hang out for as much time as we like also.""" start="00:48:17.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""okay so this is okay at least i got""" start="00:48:19.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as far as a working demo here""" start="00:48:23.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so now you can kind of see what's going on um""" start="00:48:24.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and i'll just wrap that into uh""" start="00:48:26.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""into a little prettier output""" start="00:48:31.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And you can see that it modified the value.""" start="00:48:40.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it's pretty darn simple.""" start="00:48:53.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Again, all it's doing is completely replacing all of this content""" start="00:48:59.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with whatever new value is given as its final argument""" start="00:49:06.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""after naming the data path.""" start="00:49:11.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So the one refinement we can do just to get a little more complex example going.""" start="00:49:14.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We'll deepen our structure a little bit. And try that.""" start="00:49:23.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So here now we'll say test two.""" start="00:49:32.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And we can take a look at the data file""" start="00:49:38.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and see that it has adjusted that""" start="00:49:47.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because test2 was completely unique, that worked fine.""" start="00:49:51.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If that were not the case,""" start="00:49:55.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we would have had to specify the path""" start="00:50:00.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""using dot notation like this. And that's pretty much it.""" start="00:50:02.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It took me much longer to figure out""" start="00:50:17.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""why it wasn't just working than it did to demo it.""" start="00:50:20.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And again, what I really like about this program,""" start="00:50:23.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""besides the fact that I find it quite useful""" start="00:50:29.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to just be able to stuff values into an org file""" start="00:50:31.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from the command line using shell script,""" start="00:50:34.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is what I really like about this""" start="00:50:36.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is that it's a whopping 190 lines of code,""" start="00:50:41.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""including all the boilerplate.""" start="00:50:46.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I will share the project into the chat.""" start="00:50:47.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, Corwin, you're not using org-element for this, are you?""" start="00:50:55.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""No. Yeah, that's a great question.""" start="00:51:02.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's just dig a little into the code here.""" start="00:51:06.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Or maybe it would be more fun to actually""" start="00:51:10.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So the only real requires here, I do use cl-lib mostly.""" start="00:51:21.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm directly using the macros from org.""" start="00:51:26.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Particularly, I'm extremely fond of this function.""" start="00:51:33.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'd love to see this just promoted to promoted""" start="00:51:36.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""somewhere deeper into Emacs proper,""" start="00:51:41.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that I don't have to load all of the org macros""" start="00:51:43.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to get to this particularly useful one,""" start="00:51:47.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which just tells me whether ignoring whitespace""" start="00:51:50.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a string has any characters, has greater than zero length.""" start="00:51:54.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Isn't that just string blank B?""" start="00:51:59.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So this is a little different.""" start="00:52:04.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This deals with... I may struggle to remember the details,""" start="00:52:09.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it's possible that the non-org specific version""" start="00:52:14.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""has even been improved or I didn't use it correctly,""" start="00:52:21.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I believe my experience was it didn't handle new lines, for example, quite the same way.""" start="00:52:23.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So getting into what this actually does,""" start="00:52:29.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""most of the program is finding the relevant part of the file.""" start="00:52:38.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You'll see that we start out by doing a depth-based search,""" start="00:52:43.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""capture the value that we're looking for.""" start="00:52:49.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then finally, we widen the buffer""" start="00:52:51.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and keep handling the case where we might be being called""" start="00:52:58.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from within Emacs in a narrowed buffer.""" start="00:53:01.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is another what should be documented at the top.""" start="00:53:05.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that is obviously going to load org.""" start="00:53:11.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Just double-check that. Yeah, it is going to load org.""" start="00:53:13.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And we can see that because it didn't find the function.""" start="00:53:21.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""until I loaded Org and then it did when I did C-h f""" start="00:53:30.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to get definition of a function.""" start="00:53:40.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, widen the buffer and then I just start looking for the search.""" start="00:53:45.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can see I'm doing simple regular expression based searches here.""" start="00:53:51.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Looking for lines, ultimately, that start with a star.""" start="00:53:55.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That was a little simpler format""" start="00:54:01.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that didn't quite work out.""" start="00:54:05.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I'm searching for, here this is a little tricky,""" start="00:54:07.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I'm searching for a number of stars""" start="00:54:25.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""equal to the depth that I want.""" start="00:54:28.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The depth that I want being calculated""" start="00:54:30.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""based on the number of dots that were in the query string.""" start="00:54:33.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from there, you know, kind of skipping some stuff, right?""" start="00:54:38.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Once we find our starting position,""" start="00:54:47.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then we're going to have to find the end of that,""" start="00:54:49.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the section that we're going to read or replace.""" start="00:54:53.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Text a tiny bit smaller. So I checked org-string nwp,""" start="00:54:57.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it's the same as string blank p.""" start="00:55:12.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""exactly the same code or the same result?""" start="00:55:20.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""No, it's the same result. Well, it's the same check,""" start="00:55:26.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but string blank p will return a match object,""" start="00:55:30.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like a string match object,""" start="00:55:34.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""whereas the org version will return the string itself""" start="00:55:36.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if it finds a match, as in if it's blank.""" start="00:55:39.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't remember that.""" start="00:55:46.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""As a Boolean check, they are the same.""" start="00:55:48.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you use it as, you know, is it blank or not.""" start="00:55:51.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, um, yeah, I've talked for way longer.""" start="00:55:54.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I thought I literally thought""" start="00:56:02.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this would be a five minute thing.""" start="00:56:04.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm not sure if there are any questions on it,""" start="00:56:05.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but just to simply answer your question.""" start="00:56:08.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""No, it doesn't use org element.""" start="00:56:10.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is pure regex based work.""" start="00:56:11.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, the advantage of not using... Right.""" start="00:56:23.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, the advantage of not using arg element""" start="00:56:26.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is that you don't have to load arg or arg element, right?""" start="00:56:32.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so, it's going to be faster.""" start="00:56:37.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it's going to be faster both because you don't have to load arg element""" start="00:56:39.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and because you don't have to run arg element, like the arg parser.""" start="00:56:45.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But on the other hand,""" start="00:56:51.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you end up loading all of org anyway.""" start="00:56:52.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So at that point, it might just be better""" start="00:56:58.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to use org element because it's more robust.""" start="00:57:02.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""For example, if you have a bunch of leading stars""" start="00:57:05.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""inside a source block or something,""" start="00:57:07.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you don't want to misclassify that.""" start="00:57:09.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Matter of fact, I believe I had to do some flossing with it""" start="00:57:11.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to deal with not just that,""" start="00:57:16.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but drawers and things 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video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and recently started talking to Ihor,""" start="00:58:14.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the new org maintainer,""" start="00:58:19.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""who took over in the last year or so from Bastien.""" start="00:58:20.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Just about what it would take to pick that up,""" start="00:58:27.580" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or at least get it to a point""" start="00:58:32.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where somebody else could work on it.""" start="00:58:34.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's pretty dense right now.""" start="00:58:35.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So this thing is a bit of a monster,""" start="00:58:39.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but at the end of the day,""" start="00:58:59.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""our goal is to extend the syntax,""" start="00:59:01.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is to be able to use this Org Table FM syntax""" start="00:59:06.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in other contexts.""" start="00:59:12.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if you haven't looked at board table FM,""" start="00:59:14.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""these I bar or these I markers""" start="00:59:18.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are telling us to look for the table separator.""" start="00:59:21.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So positioning based on the location of a table separator.""" 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id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Haha, you are now in charge. Okay, take it away.""" start="01:03:41.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I've been using Emacs for like 46 years now,""" start="01:03:47.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""back to TECO Emacs. 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You're very kind. Thank you.""" start="01:04:13.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll say more than that. Maybe I will.""" start="01:04:27.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I completely agree with you and I couldn't agree more.""" start="01:04:30.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think that's how Sacha and Amin and Leo""" start="01:04:34.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""really dragged me into this,""" start="01:04:38.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know, into being a volunteer.""" start="01:04:40.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I really, I'm sure we'll talk""" start="01:04:42.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about this in the closing remarks,""" start="01:04:44.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I can't recommend volunteering for this project enough.""" start="01:04:46.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template 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+[[!template text="""So this is all good.""" start="01:05:23.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Anyway, so if people want to participate,""" start="01:05:45.500" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you basically write a blog post.""" start="01:05:48.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you don't have a blog yet,""" start="01:05:49.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there are any number of packages in Emacs,""" start="01:05:53.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as well as web-based services,""" start="01:05:56.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but really, you can get something going with Emacs.""" start="01:05:58.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or exporting to HTML and maybe even figure out RSS,""" start="01:06:02.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or you can use a static site generator like Hugo,""" start="01:06:05.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or you can find, if you can set up WordPress,""" start="01:06:08.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's another way to do it.""" start="01:06:11.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Or you can email me your thing and I'll post it on my blog""" start="01:06:12.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and let me know how you want to be credited for it.""" start="01:06:15.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Anyway, so you can share your story""" start="01:06:20.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or share your story about somebody else's story""" start="01:06:23.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and celebrate Emacs 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Woohoo!""" start="01:07:34.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you for joining us""" start="01:07:38.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for the first day of EmacsConf 2025.""" start="01:07:40.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Feel free to spread the word""" start="01:07:42.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because there is still another day of fun talks tomorrow.""" start="01:07:44.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So hashtag EmacsConf and hashtag Emacs.""" start="01:07:48.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you do hashtag Emacs on Macedon""" start="01:07:51.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or Blue Sky or other places, we'll probably find it.""" start="01:07:54.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Or if I don't, you can just let me know also.""" start="01:07:58.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The prerecorded talks should be up""" start="01:08:01.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on the talk pages already.""" start="01:08:04.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The live talks, we'll probably actually get them up""" start="01:08:05.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""within the next week or two.""" start="01:08:09.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think they've already started processing,""" start="01:08:11.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I just had to sit down and then work with""" start="01:08:13.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""our wonderful army of volunteer captioners""" start="01:08:15.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to get them all nicely captioned.""" start="01:08:18.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But anyway, so the prerecorded talks""" start="01:08:20.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are also up on YouTube,""" start="01:08:22.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I will eventually also upload them""" start="01:08:23.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to TubeNix, which is a PeerTube instance.""" start="01:08:25.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We will work on extracting live talks.""" start="01:08:29.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you'd like updates,""" start="01:08:31.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""please subscribe to the EmacsConf Discuss mailing list.""" start="01:08:32.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you've got ideas for making things better,""" start="01:08:35.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we have so many ideas. I always end up with a very long""" start="01:08:37.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to-do list after these things. Please add them to the pad.""" start="01:08:39.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'd love to hear from you on how we can make it even smoother next year.""" start="01:08:43.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There are about 100 people watching in gen""" start="01:08:46.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and 100 people watching in devs, which is really awesome.""" start="01:08:49.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's amazing to think that we can have""" start="01:08:52.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""an Emacs party for a lot of people.""" start="01:08:54.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And we can only do this because of all the wonderful speakers,""" start="01:08:56.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""volunteers, participants,""" start="01:09:00.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and very patient people in our lives""" start="01:09:02.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""who make it possible through all the time and support.""" start="01:09:04.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So this year, Corwin did most of the hosting.""" start="01:09:07.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean, also dropped by earlier, so that's great.""" start="01:09:10.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I hope Leo is okay. You know, we managed.""" start="01:09:13.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I'm Sasha, by the way. I was running around backstage""" start="01:09:17.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and occasionally dropping in to go on the stream.""" start="01:09:22.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There are lots of other volunteers who are not on air.""" start="01:09:26.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, for example, during the proposal review process,""" start="01:09:29.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we got a lot of wonderful comments""" start="01:09:32.720" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from J.C. Hellery, Chico, and James Andrews-Howell.""" start="01:09:34.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""captions from Amitav and Rodion and other people""" start="01:09:37.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""have actually started also helping""" start="01:09:41.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with the captions as well.""" start="01:09:42.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So jay_bird just sent in some stuff today too.""" start="01:09:45.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We are slowly working on getting a mirror in the EU set up""" start="01:09:49.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so it'll be a little faster for people.""" start="01:09:52.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So thanks to Yang3 for lending us a server.""" start="01:09:55.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Babin and Michael and Ian and Jamie""" start="01:09:58.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and Eeyore and Floyd Coulter have also helped out as well.""" start="01:10:00.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thanks to the Free Software Foundation""" start="01:10:06.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for the mailing list, the media server, and of course, GNU Emacs itself,""" start="01:10:08.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for which an astonishing amount""" start="01:10:12.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the scripting is done in Emacs. It's great.""" start="01:10:15.440" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thanks to Ry P for the server that we're using for OBS""" start="01:10:19.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that we can just VNC into it and I can manage two tracks""" start="01:10:23.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""without making my computer melt. It's great.""" start="01:10:27.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And of course, to all the users""" start="01:10:30.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and contributors and project teams""" start="01:10:32.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that work on all the free software""" start="01:10:34.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that this stuff is built on.""" start="01:10:36.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Emacs, Org Mode, ERC, Tramp, Magit, BigBlueButton,""" start="01:10:37.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Etherpad, IkiWiki, IceCast, OBS, The Lounge,""" start="01:10:43.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""LiberaChat, FFmpeg, OpenAI Whisper, WhisperX,""" start="01:10:48.240" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the Aeneas forced alignment tool,""" start="01:10:52.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""PsyTransfer, SubEd, SubSeg, Mozilla Firefox, MPV, and Tampermonkey,""" start="01:10:55.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and other things I probably forgot to mention.""" start="01:11:00.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thanks to Shoshin for the music,""" start="01:11:02.200" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and thanks to people also who've donated""" start="01:11:04.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""through the Working Together program,""" start="01:11:06.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like Scott and Jonathan and other anonymous donors.""" start="01:11:08.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's a quick thanks. There's more tomorrow,""" start="01:11:12.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but Corwin, do you have any parting words?""" start="01:11:15.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You know, my parting words, Sacha are a thanks to you""" start="01:11:18.360" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and not just a thanks""" start="01:11:23.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for the hundreds of hours that you put""" start="01:11:25.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""into preparing this conference,""" start="01:11:27.280" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know, over the years and probably just this year,""" start="01:11:29.400" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but also for all that you do for the community you are.""" start="01:11:32.160" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You are a real unsung hero,""" start="01:11:36.000" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""even though I do hear your praises sung.""" start="01:11:38.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""They really can't be sung enough.""" start="01:11:42.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In fact, I just this last week""" start="01:11:43.760" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""recommended to two different people your blog""" start="01:11:45.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as a place to get a first introduction to Emacs.""" start="01:11:48.040" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Your Emacs news is an incredible contribution,""" start="01:11:51.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and just I want you to hear us thanking you.""" start="01:11:54.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you, Sacha. Emacs is a lot of fun,""" start="01:11:57.960" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and Emacs people are a lot of fun,""" start="01:12:04.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so it's all very wonderful. Yeah, we can wrap up here.""" start="01:12:07.520" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""People can keep hanging out if they want.""" start="01:12:10.880" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have a kiddo who is probably going to be back home soon""" start="01:12:15.080" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and will pounce on me for more hugs,""" start="01:12:21.120" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I will see y'all tomorrow.""" start="01:12:23.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""uh, for more probably the same kind of stuff.""" start="01:12:25.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Shut it down, save our energy for tomorrow.""" start="01:12:29.920" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Uh, we do like to run into like hours long closing tomorrow.""" start="01:12:32.680" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So we'll work on resisting that.""" start="01:12:36.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um, I suggest we, we look, we go get some rest""" start="01:12:38.320" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and come, come back at it fresh tomorrow.""" start="01:12:41.560" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Anybody else, any concerns with that or shall we go for it?""" start="01:12:43.840" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sounds good to me.""" start="01:12:47.800" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you've got ideas, pop them into the etherpad.""" start="01:12:50.480" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And thank you so much for sharing this time with us.""" start="01:12:53.600" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""See you tomorrow.""" start="01:12:56.640" video="mainVideo-open-mic" id="subtitle"]] + +</div>Questions or comments? 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\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/open-mic-nav.md b/2025/info/open-mic-nav.md index 1fea380b..d0fb4b77 100644 --- a/2025/info/open-mic-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/open-mic-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/greader">GNU Emacs Greader (Gnamù Reader) mode is the best Emacs mode in existence</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/graphics">Modern Emacs/Elisp hardware/software accelerated graphics</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/greader">GNU Emacs Greader (Gnamù Reader) mode is the best Emacs mode in existence</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/sun-open">Sunday opening remarks</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/org-babel-before.md b/2025/info/org-babel-before.md index abe568f9..5f41d74a 100644 --- a/2025/info/org-babel-before.md +++ b/2025/info/org-babel-before.md @@ -1,14 +1,8 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sat 2025-12-06. 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Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-org-babel">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-org-babel--making-orgbabel-reactive--abhinav-tushar--edited.vtt">Download --edited.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-org-babel--making-orgbabel-reactive--abhinav-tushar--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-org-babel--making-orgbabel-reactive--abhinav-tushar--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-org-babel--making-orgbabel-reactive--abhinav-tushar--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-org-babel--making-orgbabel-reactive--abhinav-tushar--main.opus">Download --main.opus (7.1MB)</a></li><li><a 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--intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-org-babel--making-orgbabel-reactive--abhinav-tushar--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-org-babel--making-orgbabel-reactive--abhinav-tushar--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-org-babel--making-orgbabel-reactive--abhinav-tushar--main.opus">Download --main.opus (7.1MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-org-babel--making-orgbabel-reactive--abhinav-tushar--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-org-babel--making-orgbabel-reactive--abhinav-tushar--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-org-babel--making-orgbabel-reactive--abhinav-tushar--main.webm">Download --main.webm (17MB)</a></li><li><a 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\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/org-babel-nav.md b/2025/info/org-babel-nav.md index 024f36ce..a0c351dd 100644 --- a/2025/info/org-babel-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/org-babel-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/sat-open">Saturday opening remarks</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/schemacs">One year progress update Schemacs (formerly Gypsum)</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/sat-open">Saturday opening remarks</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/reference">Emacs as a fully-fledged reference manager</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/private-ai-after.md b/2025/info/private-ai-after.md index 33a2289a..760e20c9 100644 --- a/2025/info/private-ai-after.md +++ b/2025/info/private-ai-after.md @@ -1,7 +1,877 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-after-page --> -Questions or comments? Please e-mail [ajgrothe@yahoo.com](mailto:ajgrothe@yahoo.com?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20private-ai%3A%20Emacs%20and%20private%20AI%3A%20a%20great%20match) +<div class="transcript transcript-mainVideo"><a name="private-ai-mainVideo-transcript"></a><h1>Transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""Hey, everybody. Welcome from frigid Omaha, Nebraska.""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm just going to kick off my talk here,""" start="00:00:04.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and we'll see how it all goes. Thanks for attending.""" start="00:00:06.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So the slides will be available on my site, growthy.us,""" start="00:00:23.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in the presentation section tonight or tomorrow.""" start="00:00:26.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is a quick intro to one way to do private AI in Emacs.""" start="00:00:29.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There are a lot of other ways to do it.""" start="00:00:33.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This one is really just more or less the easiest way to do it.""" start="00:00:35.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's a minimal viable product""" start="00:00:38.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to get you an idea of how to get started with it""" start="00:00:40.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and how to give it a spin.""" start="00:00:42.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Really hope some of you give it a shot""" start="00:00:43.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and learn something along the way.""" start="00:00:45.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So the overview of the talk.""" start="00:00:48.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""broke down these basic bullet points of why private AI,""" start="00:00:50.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what do I need to do private AI, Emacs and private AI,""" start="00:00:54.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""pieces for an AI Emacs solution,""" start="00:00:58.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a demo of a minimal viable product, and the summary.""" start="00:01:02.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Why private AI? This is pretty simple.""" start="00:01:08.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Just read the terms and conditions""" start="00:01:10.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for any AI system you're currently using.""" start="00:01:12.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you're using the free tiers, your queries,""" start="00:01:14.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""code uploaded information""" start="00:01:17.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is being used to train the models.""" start="00:01:18.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In some cases, you are giving the company""" start="00:01:20.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a perpetual license to your data.""" start="00:01:22.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You have no control over this,""" start="00:01:25.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""except for not using the engine.""" start="00:01:27.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And keep in mind, the terms""" start="00:01:29.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are changing all the time on that,""" start="00:01:30.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and they're not normally changing for our benefit.""" start="00:01:32.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's not necessarily a good thing.""" start="00:01:34.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you're using the paid tiers,""" start="00:01:38.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you may be able to opt out of the data collection.""" start="00:01:40.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But keep in mind, this can change,""" start="00:01:43.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or they may start charging for that option.""" start="00:01:45.540" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Every AI company wants more and more data.""" start="00:01:48.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""They need more and more data to train their models.""" start="00:01:51.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It is just the way it is.""" start="00:01:53.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""They need more and more information""" start="00:01:56.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to get it more and more accurate to keep it up to date.""" start="00:01:57.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's been a story about Stack 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I really do like it.""" start="00:03:42.540" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have my main workstation,""" start="00:03:45.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's an HP Z620 with dual Intel Xeons""" start="00:03:46.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with four NVIDIA K2200 graphics cards in it.""" start="00:03:50.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Why the four NVIDIA K2200 graphics card on it?""" start="00:03:53.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Because I could buy four of them on eBay for $100""" start="00:03:56.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it was still supported by the NVIDIA drivers for Debian.""" start="00:03:59.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's why that is. A MacBook Air with an M1 processor,""" start="00:04:02.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a very nice piece of kit I picked up a couple years ago,""" start="00:04:08.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""very cheap, but it runs AI surprisingly well,""" start="00:04:10.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and an Acer Aspire 1 with an AMD Ryzen 5700H in it.""" start="00:04:14.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This was my old laptop. 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Cursor, except it's an Emacs.""" start="00:06:01.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's really quite well done.""" start="00:06:04.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""These are all really quite well done.""" start="00:06:05.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's a bunch of other projects out there.""" start="00:06:07.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you go out to GitHub, type Emacs AI,""" start="00:06:08.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you'll find a lot of different options.""" start="00:06:10.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So what is a minimal viable product that can be done?""" start="00:06:13.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""A minimal viable product to show what an AI Emacs solution is""" start="00:06:18.460" 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And that's it firing up.""" start="00:07:25.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it is nice enough to actually be listening in port 8080,""" start="00:07:31.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which we'll need in a minute.""" start="00:07:33.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So once you do that, you have to install gptel and emacs.""" start="00:07:35.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's as simple as firing up emacs,""" start="00:07:43.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""doing the meta x install package,""" start="00:07:45.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then just typing gptel""" start="00:07:48.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you have your repository set up right,""" start="00:07:49.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which hopefully you do.""" start="00:07:51.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then you just go ahead and have it.""" start="00:07:52.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You also have to set up a config file.""" start="00:07:54.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Here's my example config file as it currently set up,""" start="00:07:58.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""requiring ensuring Gptel is loaded,""" start="00:08:01.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""defining the Llamafile backend.""" start="00:08:04.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can put multiple backends into it,""" start="00:08:05.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I just have the one defined on this example.""" start="00:08:07.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But it's pretty straightforward.""" start="00:08:09.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Llama local file, name for it, stream, protocol HTTP.""" start="00:08:12.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you have HTTPS set up, that's obviously preferable,""" start="00:08:16.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but a lot of people don't for their home labs.""" start="00:08:20.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Host is just 127.0.0.1 port 8080.""" start="00:08:22.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Keep in mind, some of the AIs run on a different port,""" start="00:08:26.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so you may be 8081""" start="00:08:30.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you're running OpenWebView at the same time. The key,""" start="00:08:31.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we don't need an API key because it's a local server.""" start="00:08:34.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And the models just, uh, we can put multiple models""" start="00:08:37.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on there if we want to.""" start="00:08:40.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if we create one with additional stuff""" start="00:08:41.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or like rag and stuff like that,""" start="00:08:43.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we can actually name those models by their domain,""" start="00:08:45.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is really kind of cool.""" start="00:08:47.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But, uh, that's all that takes.""" start="00:08:48.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So let's go ahead and go to a quick test of it.""" start="00:08:52.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oops. Alt-X, gptel. And we're going to just choose""" start="00:09:03.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the default buffer to make things easier.""" start="00:09:11.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Going to resize it up a bit.""" start="00:09:12.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And usually the go-to question I go to is, who was David Bowie?""" start="00:09:15.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This one is actually a question""" start="00:09:19.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's turned out to be really good""" start="00:09:24.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for figuring out whether or not AI is complete.""" start="00:09:26.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is one that some engines do well on, other ones don't.""" start="00:09:28.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And we can just do, we can either do""" start="00:09:31.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the alt X and send the gptel-send,""" start="00:09:33.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or we can just do control C and hit enter.""" start="00:09:36.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We'll just do control C and enter.""" start="00:09:37.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And now it's going ahead and hitting our local AI system""" start="00:09:39.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""running on port 8080. 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Yes.""" start="00:10:48.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it's smart enough to actually detect David Bowie""" start="00:11:10.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""even referenced see monkeys in the song sea of love,""" start="00:11:12.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which came at hit single.""" start="00:11:15.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it's actually keeping the context alive""" start="00:11:16.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and that which is very cool feature.""" start="00:11:18.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I did not see that coming.""" start="00:11:20.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Here's one that some people say is a really good one""" start="00:11:21.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to ask ours in strawberry.""" start="00:11:24.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, now she's going off the reservation.""" start="00:11:25.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""She's going in a different direction.""" start="00:11:46.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me go ahead and reopen that again,""" start="00:11:48.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it's went down a bad hole there for a second.""" start="00:11:49.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me ask it to do write hello world in Emacs list.""" start="00:11:52.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yep, that works. 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video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that will get you to the point where you can go like,""" start="00:12:35.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's a party trick, but it's a very cool party trick.""" start="00:12:37.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The way that Gptel works is it puts it into buffers,""" start="00:12:39.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it doesn't interfere with your flow that much,""" start="00:12:42.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's just an additional window you can pop open""" start="00:12:45.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to ask questions and get information for,""" start="00:12:47.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""dump code into it and have it refactored.""" start="00:12:49.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Gptel has a lot of additional options""" start="00:12:51.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for things that are really cool for that.""" start="00:12:53.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But if you want a better solution,""" start="00:12:55.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I recommend Ollama or LM Studio.""" start="00:12:57.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""They're both more capable than llama file.""" start="00:12:59.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""They can accept a lot of different models.""" start="00:13:01.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can do things like RAG.""" start="00:13:03.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can do loading of things onto the GPU more explicitly.""" 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video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a model and doing this stuff.""" start="00:13:42.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's take a look at a couple of highlights""" start="00:13:43.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from the MetaLlama 3 community license scale.""" start="00:13:46.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If your service exceeds 700 million monthly users,""" start="00:13:49.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you need additional licensing.""" start="00:13:52.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Probably not going to be a problem for most of us.""" start="00:13:54.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's a competition restriction.""" start="00:13:56.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can't use 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id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but you have to rely on the license terms.""" start="00:14:17.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And you can distribute the model with derivatives.""" start="00:14:20.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And there are some very cool ones out there.""" start="00:14:22.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's people who've done things""" start="00:14:24.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to try and make the llama bee less, what's the phrase,""" start="00:14:25.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""ethical if you're doing penetration testing research""" start="00:14:29.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and stuff like that.""" start="00:14:31.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It has some very nice value 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video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""makes it really nice dedicated host.""" start="00:16:29.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You used to be able to buy these for about $1200 now""" start="00:16:31.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with the RAM price increase,""" start="00:16:34.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you want to get 120 gig when you're pushing two brands so.""" start="00:16:35.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It gets a little tighter.""" start="00:16:38.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Macs work remarkably well with AI.""" start="00:16:40.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""My MacBook Air was one of my go-tos for a while,""" start="00:16:44.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but once I 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id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So Mac Minis and the Mac Ultras and stuff like that""" start="00:17:02.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""tend to work really well for that.""" start="00:17:04.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Alex Ziskin on YouTube has a channel.""" start="00:17:06.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""He does a lot of AI performance benchmarking,""" start="00:17:09.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like I load a 70 billion parameter model""" start="00:17:11.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on this mini PC and stuff like that.""" start="00:17:14.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's a lot of fun and interesting stuff there.""" start="00:17:16.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it's influencing my decision""" 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video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""One last thing to keep in mind is hallucinations are real.""" start="00:17:56.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You will get BS back from the AI occasionally,""" start="00:18:00.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so do validate everything you get from it.""" start="00:18:02.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Don't be using it for court cases like some people have""" start="00:18:05.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and run into those problems. 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And thanks for listening.""" start="00:18:32.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And the links are at the end of the talk, if you have any questions.""" start="00:18:34.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me see if we got anything you want, Pat. You do.""" start="00:18:38.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You've got a few questions.""" start="00:18:42.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hey, this is Corwin. Thank you so much. Thank you, Aaron.""" start="00:18:43.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What an awesome talk this was, actually.""" start="00:18:48.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you don't have a camera,""" start="00:18:50.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can get away with not having one too.""" start="00:18:52.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've got, I'll turn the camera on.""" start="00:18:54.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay. All right. I'll turn mine back on. 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So do you want to, you know,""" start="00:19:45.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't know how much direction you want.""" start="00:19:48.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'd be very happy to read out the questions for you.""" start="00:19:51.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, that would be great.""" start="00:19:53.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm having trouble getting to that tab.""" start="00:19:55.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, I'm there, so I'll put it into our chat too,""" start="00:19:57.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so you can follow along if you'd like.""" start="00:20:02.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The first question was, why is the David Bowie question""" start="00:20:07.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a good one to start with?""" start="00:20:11.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Does it have interesting failure conditions""" start="00:20:12.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or what made you choose that?""" start="00:20:14.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""First off, huge fan of David Bowie.""" start="00:20:17.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I came down to it really taught me a few things""" start="00:20:21.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about how old the models work""" start="00:20:24.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in terms of things like how many kids he had,""" start="00:20:26.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because deep seek, which is a very popular Chinese model""" start="00:20:28.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that a lot of people are using now,""" start="00:20:31.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""misidentifies him having three daughters,""" start="00:20:33.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and he has like one son and one, one, I think,""" start="00:20:35.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""two sons and a daughter or something like that.""" start="00:20:38.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so there's differences on that and it just goes over""" start="00:20:40.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there's a whole lot of stuff""" start="00:20:43.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because his story spans like 60 years""" start="00:20:45.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so it gives a good good feedback""" start="00:20:47.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's the real main reason I asked that question""" start="00:20:49.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I just needed one that sea monkeys I just picked""" start="00:20:51.540" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it was obscure and just always have right""" start="00:20:53.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I used to have it right hello world and forth""" start="00:20:56.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I thought was an interesting one as well so""" start="00:20:58.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's just picking random ones like that.""" start="00:21:01.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""One question asked, sorry, a lot of models is,""" start="00:21:03.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what is the closest star to the Earth?""" start="00:21:06.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Because most of them will say Alpha Centauri""" start="00:21:09.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or Proxima Centauri and not the sun.""" start="00:21:12.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I have a whole nother talk""" start="00:21:13.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where I just argue with the LLM""" start="00:21:15.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""trying to say, hey, the sun is a star.""" start="00:21:17.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And he just wouldn't accept it, so. What?""" start="00:21:20.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, I can hear that.""" start="00:21:26.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So what specific tasks do you like to use your local AI?""" start="00:21:28.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I like to load a lot of my code into""" start="00:21:34.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and actually have it do analysis of it.""" start="00:21:37.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I was actually going through some code""" start="00:21:39.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have for some pen testing, and I was having it modified""" start="00:21:42.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to update it for the newer version,""" start="00:21:45.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I hate to say this,""" start="00:21:47.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it was written for Python 2,""" start="00:21:48.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I needed to update it for Python 3.""" start="00:21:49.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And the 2 to 3 tool did not do all of it,""" start="00:21:51.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but the actual tool was able to do the refactoring.""" start="00:21:53.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's part of my laziness.""" start="00:21:56.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I use that for anything I don't want to hit the web.""" start="00:21:58.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that's a lot of stuff when you start thinking about""" start="00:22:01.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you're doing cyber security researching.""" start="00:22:03.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you have your white papers""" start="00:22:04.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and stuff like that and stuff in there.""" start="00:22:06.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've got a lot of that loaded into RAG""" start="00:22:10.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in one model on my OpenWebUI system.""" start="00:22:13.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Neat. Have you used have you used""" start="00:22:15.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""any small domain specific LLMs? What kind of tasks?""" start="00:22:21.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If so, what kind of tasks that they specialize in?""" start="00:22:25.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And you know, how?""" start="00:22:30.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Not to be honest, but there are some out there like once again,""" start="00:22:32.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for cybersecurity and stuff like that,""" start="00:22:34.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I really need to dig into that's on my to do list.""" start="00:22:36.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've got a couple weeks off at the end of the year.""" start="00:22:39.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that's a big part of my plan for that.""" start="00:22:41.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Are the various models updated pretty regularly?""" start="00:22:43.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Can you add your own data to the pre-built models?""" start="00:22:49.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes. The models are updated pretty reasonably.""" start="00:22:52.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can add data to a model in a couple of different ways.""" start="00:22:56.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can do something called fine-tuning,""" start="00:22:59.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which requires a really nice GPU and a lot of CPU time.""" start="00:23:01.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Probably not going to do that.""" start="00:23:03.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can do retrieval augmentation generation,""" start="00:23:05.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is you load your data on top of the system""" start="00:23:07.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and puts inside a database""" start="00:23:09.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you can actually scan that and stuff.""" start="00:23:11.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have another talk where I go through""" start="00:23:12.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I start asking questions about,""" start="00:23:14.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I load the talk into the engine""" start="00:23:16.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I ask questions against that.""" start="00:23:18.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I would have one more time would have done that""" start="00:23:20.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it comes down to how many That's that's rag rag""" start="00:23:22.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is pretty easy to do through open web UI or LM studio""" start="00:23:26.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's a great way you just like point a folder""" start="00:23:29.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""point it to a folder and it just sucks all that state into""" start="00:23:31.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it'll hit that data first""" start="00:23:34.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you have like helpdesk and stuff and""" start="00:23:35.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The other options there's vector databases,""" start="00:23:36.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is like if you use PostgreSQL.""" start="00:23:39.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It has a PG vector I can do a lot of that stuff.""" start="00:23:41.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've not dug into that yet,""" start="00:23:43.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but that is also on that to-do list""" start="00:23:44.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've got a lot of stuff planned for Cool.""" start="00:23:46.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So what are your experience with rags?""" start="00:23:48.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't even know what that means.""" start="00:23:51.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Do you know what that means?""" start="00:23:54.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Do you remember this question again?""" start="00:23:57.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What is your experience with RAGs? RAGs is great.""" start="00:23:59.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's Retrieval Augmentation Generation.""" start="00:24:03.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That loads your data first, and it hits yours,""" start="00:24:07.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it'll actually cite it and stuff.""" start="00:24:09.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's a guy who wrote a RAG in 100 lines of Python,""" start="00:24:11.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it's an impressive piece of software.""" start="00:24:14.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think if you hit one of my site,""" start="00:24:16.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've got a private AI talk where I actually refer to that.""" start="00:24:18.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But retrieval augmentation, it's easy, it's fast,""" start="00:24:22.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it puts your data into the system,""" start="00:24:25.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, start with that and go then iterate on top of that.""" start="00:24:26.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's one of the great things about AI,""" start="00:24:31.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""especially private AI,""" start="00:24:32.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is you can do whatever you want to with it""" start="00:24:33.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and build up with it as you get more experience.""" start="00:24:37.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Any thoughts on running things""" start="00:24:43.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on AWS, DigitalOcean, and so on?""" start="00:24:44.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""AWS is not bad.""" start="00:24:49.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The DigitalOcean, they have some of their GPUs.""" start="00:24:50.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I still don't like having the data""" start="00:24:52.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""leave my house, to be honest, or at work,""" start="00:24:54.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I tend to do some stuff""" start="00:24:57.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I don't want it even hitting that situation.""" start="00:24:59.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But they have pretty good stuff.""" start="00:25:01.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Another one to consider is Oracle Cloud.""" start="00:25:03.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oracle has their AI infrastructure that's really well done.""" start="00:25:05.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I mean, once again, then you start looking at potential""" start="00:25:09.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is saying your data is private,""" start="00:25:12.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't necessarily trust it.""" start="00:25:13.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But they do have good stuff, both DigitalOcean, AWS,""" start="00:25:14.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oracle Cloud has the free service, which isn't too bad,""" start="00:25:17.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""usually a certain number of stuff.""" start="00:25:20.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And Google's also has it,""" start="00:25:21.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I still tend to keep more stuff on local PCs,""" start="00:25:23.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I just paranoid that way. Gotcha.""" start="00:25:26.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What has your experience been using AI?""" start="00:25:33.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Do you want to get into that, using AI for cybersecurity?""" start="00:25:35.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You might have already touched on this.""" start="00:25:40.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, really, for cybersecurity,""" start="00:25:42.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what I've had to do is I've dumped logs""" start="00:25:44.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to have a due correlation.""" start="00:25:46.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Keep in mind, the size of that LLAMA file we were using""" start="00:25:47.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for figuring out David Bowie, writing the hello world,""" start="00:25:49.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""all that stuff, is like six gig.""" start="00:25:52.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""How does it get the entire world in six gig?""" start="00:25:54.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I still haven't figured that out in terms of quantization.""" start="00:25:56.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I'm really interested in seeing the ability""" start="00:25:59.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to take all this stuff out of all my logs,""" start="00:26:02.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""dump it all in there,""" start="00:26:05.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and actually be able to do intelligent queries against that.""" start="00:26:06.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Microsoft has a project called Security Copilot,""" start="00:26:08.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is trying to do that in the Cloud.""" start="00:26:10.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I want to work on something to do that more locally""" start="00:26:12.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and be able to actually drive this stuff over that.""" start="00:26:15.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's one also on the long-term goals.""" start="00:26:19.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So we got any other questions or?""" start="00:26:21.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Those are the questions that I see.""" start="00:26:26.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I want to just read out a couple of comments""" start="00:26:29.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I saw in IRC though.""" start="00:26:31.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Jay Rutabaga says, it went very well""" start="00:26:33.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from an audience perspective.""" start="00:26:36.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And G Gundam says, respect your commitment to privacy.""" start="00:26:39.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then somebody is telling us""" start="00:26:43.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we might have skipped a question.""" start="00:26:45.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I'm just going to run back to my list.""" start="00:26:46.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Updated regularly experience.""" start="00:26:50.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I just didn't type in the answer here's""" start="00:26:52.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and there's a couple more questions coming in so""" start="00:26:57.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Is there a disparity where you go to paid models""" start="00:26:59.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because they are better and what problems?""" start="00:27:04.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You know what would drive you to? That's a good question.""" start="00:27:08.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Paid models, I don't mind them. I think they're good,""" start="00:27:14.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I don't think they're actually economically sustainable""" start="00:27:17.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""under their current system.""" start="00:27:21.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Because right now, if you're paying""" start="00:27:22.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""20 bucks a month for Copilot and that goes up to 200 bucks,""" start="00:27:24.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm not going to be as likely to use it.""" start="00:27:26.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You know what I mean?""" start="00:27:28.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But it does do some things in a way that I did not expect.""" start="00:27:29.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""For example, Grok was refactoring""" start="00:27:33.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""some of my code in the comments and dropped an F-bomb.""" start="00:27:35.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which I did not see coming,""" start="00:27:38.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but the other code before""" start="00:27:39.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I had gotten off GitHub""" start="00:27:41.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""had F bombs in it.""" start="00:27:43.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it was just emulating the style,""" start="00:27:44.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but would that be something""" start="00:27:45.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'd want to turn in a pull request? I don't know.""" start="00:27:47.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But, uh, there's, there's a lot of money""" start="00:27:49.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""going into these AIs and stuff,""" start="00:27:52.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but in terms of the ability to get a decent one,""" start="00:27:53.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like the llama, llama three, two,""" start="00:27:56.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and load your data into it, you can be pretty competitive.""" start="00:27:57.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You're not going to get all the benefits,""" start="00:28:01.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but you have more control over it.""" start="00:28:04.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it's, it's a, this and that it's a,""" start="00:28:07.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's a balancing act.""" start="00:28:11.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, and I think I see a couple more questions coming in.""" start="00:28:13.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What is the largest parameter size for local models""" start="00:28:15.540" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you've been able to successfully run locally""" start="00:28:19.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and do run into issues with limited context window size?""" start="00:28:22.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The top eight models will tend to have a larger ceiling.""" start="00:28:26.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.""" start="00:28:29.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""By default, the context size is I think 1024.""" start="00:28:32.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I've upped it to 8192 on the on this box, the Pangolin""" start="00:28:37.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it seems to be some reason""" start="00:28:44.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's just a very working quite well.""" start="00:28:46.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But the largest ones I've loaded have been in""" start="00:28:49.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the have not been that huge.""" start="00:28:52.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've loaded this the last biggest one I've done.""" start="00:28:54.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's the reason why I'm planning""" start="00:28:55.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on breaking down and buying a Ryzen.""" start="00:28:57.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Actually, I'm going to buy""" start="00:29:01.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""an Intel i285H with 96 gig of RAM.""" start="00:29:03.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Then I should be able to load""" start="00:29:06.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a 70 billion parameter model in that. How fast will it run?""" start="00:29:08.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's going to run slow as dog,""" start="00:29:12.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it's going to be cool to be able to do it.""" start="00:29:13.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's an AI bragging rights thing,""" start="00:29:15.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I mostly stick with the smaller size models""" start="00:29:17.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the ones that are more quantitized""" start="00:29:20.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it just tends to work better for me.""" start="00:29:22.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We've still got over 10 minutes before we're cutting away,""" start="00:29:26.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I'm just anticipating""" start="00:29:29.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that we're going to be going strong at the 10 minute mark.""" start="00:29:30.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I'm just, just letting, you know,""" start="00:29:32.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we can go as long as we like here at a certain point.""" start="00:29:34.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I may have to jump away and check in with the next speaker,""" start="00:29:37.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but we'll post the entirety of this,""" start="00:29:41.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""even if we aren't able to stay with it all.""" start="00:29:44.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay. And we've got 10 minutes""" start="00:29:47.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where we're still going to stay live.""" start="00:29:49.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So next question coming in, I see, are there free as in freedom,""" start="00:29:52.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""free as in FSF issues with the data?""" start="00:30:00.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, where's the data coming from is a huge question with AI.""" start="00:30:05.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's astonishing you can ask questions""" start="00:30:11.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to models that you don't know where it's coming from.""" start="00:30:13.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That is gonna be one of the big issues long-term.""" start="00:30:16.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There are people who are working""" start="00:30:19.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on trying to figure out that stuff,""" start="00:30:21.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it's, I mean, if you look at, God,""" start="00:30:22.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can't remember who it was.""" start="00:30:25.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Somebody was actually out torrenting books""" start="00:30:27.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just to be able to build into their AI system.""" start="00:30:28.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think it might've been Meta.""" start="00:30:30.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So there's a lot of that going on.""" start="00:30:32.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The open source of the stuff is going to be tough.""" start="00:30:34.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's going to be there's some models""" start="00:30:38.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like the mobile guys have got their own license,""" start="00:30:39.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but where they're getting their data from,""" start="00:30:41.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm not sure on so that that's a huge question.""" start="00:30:42.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's a that's a talk in itself.""" start="00:30:45.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yeah, but you if you train on your RAG and your data,""" start="00:30:47.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know what it's come, you know,""" start="00:30:51.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you have a license that""" start="00:30:53.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but the other stuff is just""" start="00:30:54.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""more lines of supplement""" start="00:30:55.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you're using a smaller model,""" start="00:30:56.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but the comment online, I see a couple of them.""" start="00:31:01.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll read them out in order here. Really interesting stuff.""" start="00:31:05.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you for your talk. 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If you hit Zyskin's website,""" start="00:33:00.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that guy's done some great work on it.""" start="00:33:03.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm trying to figure out how big a model you can do,""" start="00:33:05.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what you can do with it.""" start="00:33:07.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And some of the stuff seems to be not obvious,""" start="00:33:08.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because like example, being that MacBook Air,""" start="00:33:12.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for the five minutes I can run the model,""" start="00:33:15.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it runs it faster than a lot of other things""" start="00:33:17.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that should be able to run it faster,""" start="00:33:19.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just because of the way the ARM cores and the unified memory work on it.""" start="00:33:21.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it's a learning process.""" start="00:33:24.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But if you want to, Network Chuck had a great video""" start="00:33:26.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""talking about building his own system""" start="00:33:29.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with a couple really powerful NVIDIA cards""" start="00:33:30.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and stuff like that in it.""" start="00:33:34.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And just actually setting up on his system as a node""" start="00:33:35.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and using a web UI on it. So there's a lot of stuff there,""" start="00:33:38.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it is a process of learning how big your data is,""" start="00:33:41.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which models you want to use,""" start="00:33:43.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how much information you need,""" start="00:33:44.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it's part of the learning.""" start="00:33:46.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And you can run models, even as a Raspberry PI fives,""" start="00:33:48.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you want to, they'll run slow.""" start="00:33:52.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Don't get me wrong, but they're possible.""" start="00:33:54.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, and I think there's other questions coming in too,""" start="00:33:56.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I'll just bam for another second.""" start="00:34:02.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We've got about five minutes before we'll,""" start="00:34:04.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""before we'll be cutting over,""" start="00:34:06.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I just want to say in case we get close for time here,""" start="00:34:09.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how much I appreciate your talk.""" start="00:34:13.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is another one that I'm going to""" start="00:34:14.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""have to study after the conference.""" start="00:34:15.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We greatly appreciate, all of us appreciate""" start="00:34:18.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you guys putting on the conference.""" start="00:34:21.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's a great conference. It's well done.""" start="00:34:22.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's an honor to be on the stage""" start="00:34:26.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with the brains of the project, which is you.""" start="00:34:28.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So what else we got? Question wise.""" start="00:34:30.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, so just scanning here.""" start="00:34:34.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Have you used local models capable of tool calling?""" start="00:34:39.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm, I'm scared of agentic.""" start="00:34:50.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I, I am, I'm going to be a slow adopter of that.""" start="00:34:54.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I want to do it, but I just don't have the, uh,""" start="00:34:58.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""four decimal fortitude right now to do it.""" start="00:35:02.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I, I, I've had to give me the commands,""" start="00:35:04.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I still run the commands by hand.""" start="00:35:07.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm looking into it and it's on once again,""" start="00:35:08.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's on that list, but I just, that's a big step for me.""" start="00:35:10.540" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So. Awesome. All right.""" start="00:35:14.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well, maybe it's, let me just scroll through""" start="00:35:23.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because we might have missed one question. Oh, I see.""" start="00:35:27.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Here was the piggyback question.""" start="00:35:31.540" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Now I see the question that I missed.""" start="00:35:36.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So this was piggybacking on the question""" start="00:35:38.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about model updates and adding data.""" start="00:35:41.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And will models reach out to the web""" start="00:35:44.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if they need more info?""" start="00:35:46.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Or have you worked with any models that work that way?""" start="00:35:47.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""No, I've not seen any models to do that""" start="00:35:51.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's there was like a group""" start="00:35:55.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""working on something like a package updater""" start="00:35:57.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that would do different diffs on it,""" start="00:35:59.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it's so Models change so much""" start="00:36:02.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""even who make minor changes and fine-tuning.""" start="00:36:03.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's hard just to update them in place""" start="00:36:05.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I haven't seen one, but that doesn't mean""" start="00:36:07.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""they're not out there. I'm curious topic though Awesome""" start="00:36:10.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well, it's probably pretty good timing.""" start="00:36:16.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me just scroll and make sure.""" start="00:36:19.540" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And of course, before I can say that,""" start="00:36:21.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there's one more question. So let's go ahead and have that.""" start="00:36:23.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I want to make sure while we're still live, though,""" start="00:36:25.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I give you a chance to offer any closing thoughts.""" start="00:36:28.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So what scares you most about the agentic tools?""" start="00:36:31.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""How would you think about putting a sandbox around that""" start="00:36:35.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you did adopt an agentic workflow?""" start="00:36:38.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That is a great question.""" start="00:36:42.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In terms of that, I would just control""" start="00:36:42.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what it's able to talk to, what machines,""" start="00:36:45.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I would actually have it be air gap.""" start="00:36:48.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I work for a defense contractor,""" start="00:36:50.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and we spend a lot of time dealing with air gap systems,""" start="00:36:52.100" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because that's just kind of the way it works out for us.""" start="00:36:53.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So agentic, it's just going to take a while to get trust.""" start="00:36:55.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I want to want to see more stuff happening.""" start="00:36:58.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Humans screw up stuff enough.""" start="00:37:01.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The last thing we need is to multiply that by 1000.""" start="00:37:02.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So in terms of that, I would be restricting what it can do.""" start="00:37:04.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you look at the capabilities,""" start="00:37:09.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if I created a user and gave it permissions,""" start="00:37:10.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I would have a lockdown through sudo,""" start="00:37:13.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what it's able to do, what the account's able to do.""" start="00:37:15.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I would do those kind of things,""" start="00:37:17.380" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it's going to be, it's happening.""" start="00:37:18.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's just, I'm going to be one of the laggards on that one.""" start="00:37:20.860" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So airgab, jail, extremely locked down environments,""" start="00:37:25.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like we're talking about separate physicals, not Docker.""" start="00:37:29.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, hopefully. Right, fair.""" start="00:37:34.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So tool calling can be read-only,""" start="00:37:37.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""such as giving models the ability to search the web""" start="00:37:39.900" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""before answering your question,""" start="00:37:42.540" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know, write access, execute access.""" start="00:37:43.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm interested to know if local models""" start="00:37:46.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are any good at that.""" start="00:37:49.220" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, local models can do a lot of that stuff.""" start="00:37:51.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's their capabilities.""" start="00:37:55.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you load LM studio, you can do a lot of wonderful stuff""" start="00:37:56.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with that or with open web UI with a llama.""" start="00:37:59.020" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's a lot of capabilities. It's amazing.""" start="00:38:02.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Open web UI is actually what a lot of companies are using now""" start="00:38:05.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to put their data behind that.""" start="00:38:08.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""They're curated data and stuff like that. So works well.""" start="00:38:10.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can confirm that from my own professional experience.""" start="00:38:12.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Excellent. Okay, well, our timing should be just perfect""" start="00:38:15.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you want to give us like a 30-second, 45-second wrap-up.""" start="00:38:19.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Aaron, let me squeeze in mine.""" start="00:38:22.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you again so much for preparing this talk""" start="00:38:24.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and for entertaining all of our questions.""" start="00:38:26.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, let me just thank you guys for the conference again.""" start="00:38:30.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is a great one. I've enjoyed a lot of it.""" start="00:38:33.300" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've only had a couple of talks so far,""" start="00:38:35.180" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I'm looking forward to hitting the ones after this and tomorrow.""" start="00:38:37.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But the AI stuff is coming. Get on board.""" start="00:38:41.660" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Definitely recommend it. If you want to just try it out""" start="00:38:44.740" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and get a little taste of it,""" start="00:38:46.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what my minimal viable product""" start="00:38:48.420" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with just LlamaFile and GPTEL""" start="00:38:49.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""will get you to the point where you start figuring out.""" start="00:38:51.620" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Gptel is an amazing thing. It just gets out of your way,""" start="00:38:53.140" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it works solo with Emacs. Design because it takes""" start="00:38:55.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""doesn't take your hands off the keyboard.""" start="00:39:00.460" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's just another buffer""" start="00:39:01.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you just put information in there.""" start="00:39:02.500" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's quite quite a wonderful It's a wonderful time.""" start="00:39:04.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's put that way That's all I got Thank you""" start="00:39:06.980" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so much for once again, and we're we're just cut away.""" start="00:39:10.820" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I'll stop the recording""" start="00:39:14.340" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you're on your own recognizance""" start="00:39:15.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well, I'm gonna punch out""" start="00:39:18.260" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if anybody has any questions or anything""" start="00:39:19.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""my email address is ajgrothe@yahoo.com or at gmail and""" start="00:39:21.060" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you all for attending""" start="00:39:24.700" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and thanks again for the conference""" start="00:39:26.780" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and end the room there, thank you.""" start="00:39:29.940" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Excellent, thanks, bye.""" start="00:39:32.580" video="mainVideo-private-ai" id="subtitle"]] + +</div>Questions or comments? Please e-mail [ajgrothe@yahoo.com](mailto:ajgrothe@yahoo.com?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20private-ai%3A%20Emacs%20and%20private%20AI%3A%20a%20great%20match) <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-after-page --> diff --git a/2025/info/private-ai-before.md b/2025/info/private-ai-before.md index acdc3861..48fdf92a 100644 --- a/2025/info/private-ai-before.md +++ b/2025/info/private-ai-before.md @@ -1,19 +1,13 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sat 2025-12-06. Solid lines show talks with Q&A via BigBlueButton. 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Please e-mail [emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org](mailto:emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20python%3A%20Interactive%20Python%20programming%20in%20Emacs) +<div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="python-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""So as we wait for people to drop""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in their questions and so on,""" start="00:00:02.840" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll just kind of add a couple of thoughts.""" start="00:00:04.280" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm not personally much of a Python developer,""" start="00:00:08.720" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I'm just curious as to your thoughts on using Emacs""" start="00:00:12.040" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and kind of the development methodology you showed""" start="00:00:17.760" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as a way to learn Python.""" start="00:00:24.320" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, I think Emacs is perfect for it.""" start="00:00:26.520" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you're already an Emacs user""" start="00:00:29.240" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you have the keyboard commands""" start="00:00:31.760" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and everything uploaded in your brain,""" start="00:00:35.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then learning Python shouldn't be too difficult,""" start="00:00:38.720" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because there's a lot of good packages.""" start="00:00:42.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""For Python, I'm using a thing called elpy,""" start="00:00:44.840" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is really good. for Python development.""" start="00:00:51.320" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you have this connection to a running backend,""" start="00:00:55.680" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the Jedi Python backend that will give you autocomplete""" start="00:01:00.040" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and some refactoring and things like that.""" start="00:01:06.040" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I think Emacs is really good for Python development.""" start="00:01:09.040" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So what are some other...""" start="00:01:14.440" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""How long have you been using Emacs?""" start="00:01:16.680" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Kind of a general question.""" start="00:01:18.320" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sorry if you covered this and I missed it.""" start="00:01:19.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's not that long actually.""" start="00:01:23.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think it was in 2019 or 2020.""" start="00:01:26.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's when I started to, I was really fortunate enough""" start="00:01:31.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to join a team that had chosen to""" start="00:01:34.800" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""develop an app in Lisp, in Clojure.""" start="00:01:38.040" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""yeah and i didn't know anything about it""" start="00:01:42.920" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""i didn't know lisp at all so it was like brand new""" start="00:01:45.040" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so i really had struggling to to learn it""" start="00:01:47.360" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but at the same time i was looking for okay""" start="00:01:50.640" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which editor should i pick to to do this""" start="00:01:53.560" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and i was before that and like an ide person""" start="00:01:55.280" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so i do use this big ideas""" start="00:02:00.240" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and this time i figured maybe i should try something different.""" start="00:02:02.920" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I read this book about Clojure development""" start="00:02:07.840" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the author was really into Emacs""" start="00:02:10.240" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and he was like, Clojure is really good for,""" start="00:02:13.240" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Emacs is really good for Clojure development.""" start="00:02:17.160" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's how I started.""" start="00:02:19.160" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I like to learn, rewired my brain""" start="00:02:20.760" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to learn all how Emacs works""" start="00:02:24.480" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as opposed to like the mainstream editors out there.""" start="00:02:27.640" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's how it started. So like five years ago, maybe.""" start="00:02:30.960" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Cool. Um, so did you, what were some other,""" start="00:02:33.520" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what, what, what editor were you primarily using before you?""" start="00:02:39.520" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um, um, back, back then it was like,""" start="00:02:44.000" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think it was like Sublime Text.""" start="00:02:49.400" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And also some IntelliJ, sorry, JetBrains, their tools.""" start="00:02:52.720" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And before that, I was in the Microsoft world,""" start="00:02:57.720" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so it's like Microsoft toolings basically.""" start="00:03:04.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I moved towards open source tooling""" start="00:03:08.200" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and also open source development. Very cool.""" start="00:03:10.880" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I see we've got a couple people""" start="00:03:16.680" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that have joined on the BBB here with us""" start="00:03:19.120" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for the live question.""" start="00:03:23.480" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You're welcome to just throw your question in this chat,""" start="00:03:24.960" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or if you've got a microphone connected,""" start="00:03:29.200" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you're welcome to come off mute""" start="00:03:32.040" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and throw a question in that way as well.""" start="00:03:34.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can join on liberachat IRC.""" start="00:03:36.760" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can join pound emacs comp hyphen dev,""" start="00:03:40.360" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and we would happily take your questions there.""" start="00:03:44.120" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Meanwhile, I've got a question""" start="00:03:47.280" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""coming in on the pad right now, so take that next.""" start="00:03:49.480" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll just read it out.""" start="00:03:52.720" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't quite see how your setup works with IPython.""" start="00:03:55.240" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sorry if you already answered this.""" start="00:03:58.240" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Do you have your Emacs connect to the IPython kernel""" start="00:04:00.280" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""over XMPP socket that IPython sets up? Oh, good question.""" start="00:04:03.520" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So what I've done is I have two different connections.""" start="00:04:11.920" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like if I'm going to do this regular day-to-day Python work""" start="00:04:18.040" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when I want to evaluate code""" start="00:04:21.360" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""without thinking about the external connection,""" start="00:04:24.400" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then I just use IPython""" start="00:04:29.960" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I have my I'm using the LP Python package""" start="00:04:31.560" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that you can set up which of the REPLs""" start="00:04:36.800" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you want to start when you evaluate code.""" start="00:04:39.840" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's IPython. But in the second part of the talk""" start="00:04:42.800" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where I connect to an externally running app,""" start="00:04:46.760" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then I have set up the same configuration""" start="00:04:50.920" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but to start Jupyter, the Jupyter console instead.""" start="00:04:55.840" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And when I start it up, it's going to, it's like a dialogue""" start="00:05:00.960" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that will ask for the ID of a running kernel.""" start="00:05:04.960" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Because if you start a kernel,""" start="00:05:09.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you start something in a kernel,""" start="00:05:10.840" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you will get this unique ID so you can connect to it.""" start="00:05:12.920" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's kind of the difference.""" start="00:05:17.080" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I have two different ways""" start="00:05:19.680" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of starting up the Python kernel. REPLs, either PyPython,""" start="00:05:21.640" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which I do for most of my daily work,""" start="00:05:26.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or if I want this connection to a running app,""" start="00:05:29.560" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm using the Jupyter console, basically.""" start="00:05:32.240" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Have you explored Org Babel at all?""" start="00:05:38.480" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Can you talk about your approach""" start="00:05:45.200" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""compared to the Babel workflow? 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is like theme""" start="00:09:16.040" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and maybe having this environment""" start="00:09:21.720" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that is without disturbance.""" start="00:09:27.160" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I really like the code to have my full attention.""" start="00:09:31.480" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I rarely have, maybe I have like a preview sometimes,""" start="00:09:34.840" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but mostly it's the window or the buffer where I have my code""" start="00:09:41.240" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I've minimized the running REPL buffer.""" start="00:09:45.360" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So sometimes it's, I'm hiding it, but it's still active.""" start="00:09:49.880" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template 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to learn""" start="00:11:00.040" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I'm not even using org yet.""" start="00:11:04.920" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm exploring the this editor.""" start="00:11:07.740" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I feel like I'm very much a beginner.""" start="00:11:11.560" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm not using Emacs to its full potential yet.""" start="00:11:14.800" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I'm counting on that I will be more and more using Emacs""" start="00:11:17.920" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for more and more different tasks basically.""" start="00:11:23.280" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I'm just seeing a comment.""" start="00:11:29.120" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Ed Stallthroat says, thank you""" start="00:11:32.560" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for publishing your configuration and offers a link.""" start="00:11:35.800" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, great. Great.""" start="00:11:40.840" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, those things that I showed in my talk,""" start="00:11:41.880" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I haven't made any, I haven't packaged it yet,""" start="00:11:46.360" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but everything is on my GitHub,""" start="00:11:49.320" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I've tried to separate each feature""" start="00:11:51.200" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in separate LSP files.""" start="00:11:57.080" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it should be, I hope that it's fairly straightforward""" start="00:11:59.640" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to understand how it's set up. Very good.""" start="00:12:04.320" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me just scroll down,""" start="00:12:08.960" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""make sure I'm not missing questions here.""" start="00:12:11.120" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, I think those are the questions that we have.""" start="00:12:13.000" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We can take a couple more minutes if you're open to that,""" start="00:12:16.960" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just for people to consider.""" start="00:12:20.880" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I know we're coming up on the lunch hour,""" start="00:12:24.040" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so it may be that people are jogging off to get some food.""" start="00:12:26.120" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, in Sweden, it's dinner time.""" start="00:12:31.680" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's like 6 p.m. soon. That fits.""" start="00:12:36.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So are you involved with local Emacs meetups?""" start="00:12:40.080" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I know that your part of the world""" start="00:12:46.440" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""has a really brisk community,""" start="00:12:49.080" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know, a lot of, just a lot going on.""" start="00:12:51.800" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm always seeing in Sacha's Emacs News,""" start="00:12:55.280" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""all of the different meetups and so on.""" start="00:12:58.800" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm curious if you're plugged""" start="00:13:02.320" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""into a local community there at all, No, I haven't.""" start="00:13:03.520" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Not in any community. I haven't done that yet,""" start="00:13:08.720" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but we are like friends that I've gotten to know""" start="00:13:10.760" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""through work and through like open source work that also use Emacs.""" start="00:13:15.680" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We talk and share our conflicts""" start="00:13:23.440" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""basically on a regular basis,""" start="00:13:28.960" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because we are, at least in the Python community,""" start="00:13:30.800" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we're like a minority,""" start="00:13:36.000" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like other editors are like the standards.""" start="00:13:37.400" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And at work, I'm sharing what I'm doing,""" start="00:13:39.800" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just like my talk here to my fellow co-workers""" start="00:13:45.880" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that are not on Emacs, but I hope to get their interest up.""" start="00:13:48.680" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So many of us Emacs users are Emacs evangelists.""" start="00:13:54.000" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah. It's the Venn diagram of Emacs user""" start="00:13:59.000" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and Emacs evangelist is a circle, I think.""" start="00:14:06.202" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, I think so too.""" start="00:14:08.869" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well, David, I super appreciate your talk""" start="00:14:11.036" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and thank you so much also for...""" start="00:14:16.560" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm sorry, I saw another question here. Let me cover that.""" start="00:14:18.760" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Can you repeat the name of the LLM""" start="00:14:24.640" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you specifically mentioned there?""" start="00:14:27.960" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, it's a tool called ECA, E-C-A.""" start="00:14:30.320" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's basically a server and clients,""" start="00:14:36.785" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it's not only Emacs. It has support for other editors,""" start="00:14:44.077" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I think the primary support is for,""" start="00:14:49.161" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""at least the developer who does it is an Emacs user,""" start="00:14:53.120" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and so it's like Emacs first, basically.""" start="00:14:57.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And his name is Eric Dallo.""" start="00:15:01.040" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""He's a great developer in the Clojure community.""" start="00:15:04.960" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""He has done some LSP work in the Clojure world, too.""" start="00:15:09.680" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What was the last name? What was Eric's last name?""" start="00:15:13.160" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Eric Dallo, D-A-L-L-O. Yeah.""" start="00:15:17.160" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I think that's a great tool, but I also use another tool""" start="00:15:23.920" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that for some reason I forgot to have this interactive way of,""" start="00:15:31.880" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I think they are developing that feature too,""" start="00:15:38.920" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I have another LLM that has support""" start="00:15:43.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for requests and callbacks basically.""" start="00:15:46.440" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you can do something programmatically.""" start="00:15:50.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's how I've solved my LLM thing""" start="00:15:53.800" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where I select some Python variables""" start="00:15:55.920" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and tell the LLM to populate it with some fake data""" start="00:16:00.760" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I can send that to the REPL.""" start="00:16:05.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But for some reason, I forgot the name of it.""" start="00:16:08.880" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can look it up. Just give me one minute, sorry.""" start="00:16:11.480" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""oh yeah gptel gptel that's that's the name of the other tool""" start="00:16:25.160" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is uh also a good tool yeah""" start="00:16:35.560" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but ECA is more like a more chat companion""" start="00:16:37.880" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and this you can also you can tell it to write code and things like that""" start="00:16:41.280" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but i mostly use it for reviews and research""" start="00:16:46.680" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and like asking questions""" start="00:16:51.680" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because i want to my I don't have a problem with typing code.""" start="00:16:54.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't think that slows me down,""" start="00:17:00.280" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but maybe getting some quick feedback""" start="00:17:01.920" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on the actual work that I'm doing,""" start="00:17:05.640" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's what I'm using LLM for,""" start="00:17:07.480" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on LLM for two, mostly today. That really hits for me.""" start="00:17:09.000" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't mind typing either.""" start="00:17:13.520" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think somehow having things be so simple""" start="00:17:15.200" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and in many cases just automated,""" start="00:17:18.480" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Emacs just does the right thing.""" start="00:17:20.880" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It makes me hungry to type. I want to type more.""" start="00:17:22.720" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It feels like every keystroke does a little more.""" start="00:17:26.520" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Speaking of evangelism, thank you. Thank you""" start="00:17:28.560" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""pop up for the for the question.""" start="00:17:33.520" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm just going to peek one more time through""" start="00:17:35.600" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I don't see a backlog.""" start="00:17:39.440" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There are a couple more comments here""" start="00:17:41.160" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""linking linking to the ECA Emacs and gptel.""" start="00:17:44.520" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Comment also saying very cool setup.""" start="00:17:49.320" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I suppose I'll I'll hand it over to you""" start="00:17:52.240" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you have kind of final thoughts or.""" start="00:17:56.960" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""additional wisdoms you want to share""" start="00:17:59.320" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I really appreciate your taking the time to prepare this presentation""" start="00:18:02.080" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""especially to do the live Q&A with us. Thank you""" start="00:18:05.400" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I haven't anything more than that I will""" start="00:18:11.080" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of course I will continue like have evolving my setup""" start="00:18:13.920" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because there's like new tools""" start="00:18:19.480" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and maybe new ideas also coming up""" start="00:18:21.360" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and my What I'm aiming for in Python development""" start="00:18:24.760" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is the great developer experience""" start="00:18:28.720" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of what's called Lisp programming, basically.""" start="00:18:30.480" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's what I'm aiming at for Python 2.""" start="00:18:34.520" video="qanda-python" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you. 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\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/python-nav.md b/2025/info/python-nav.md index 78e9400e..d1d02d06 100644 --- a/2025/info/python-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/python-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/gnus">Reading and writing emails in GNU Emacs with Gnus</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/latex">LaTeX export in org-mode: the overhaul</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track Development">Development</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/dev">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/swanky">Swanky Python: Interactive development for Python</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/llm">Emacs, editors, and LLM driven workflows</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track Development">Development</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/reader-after.md b/2025/info/reader-after.md index de969ba2..d6e736d0 100644 --- a/2025/info/reader-after.md +++ b/2025/info/reader-after.md @@ -823,7 +823,370 @@ Captioner: jay_bird -Questions or comments? Please e-mail [divya@subvertising.org](mailto:divya@subvertising.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20reader%3A%20An%20introduction%20to%20the%20Emacs%20Reader) +<div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="reader-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""The first question,""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I'm reading from the etherpad here,""" start="00:00:01.480" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is there a scope for integrating""" start="00:00:03.600" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the C library to Emacs itself""" start="00:00:05.520" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with MuPDF becoming an optional dependency?""" start="00:00:07.840" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Right, so integrating the C library into Emacs itself""" start="00:00:13.160" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is like having MuPDF inside Emacs source tree.""" start="00:00:18.720" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't think Emacs devs would be inclined to do that,""" start="00:00:24.360" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I don't think we really need it.""" start="00:00:28.000" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um, I think as it is, uh, Emacs""" start="00:00:30.080" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with doc view needs new tool, which is something you need""" start="00:00:33.040" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to install from new PDF anyways.""" start="00:00:36.440" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, um, I think it is almost expected""" start="00:00:38.920" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you install new PDF from system package manager.""" start="00:00:42.600" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um, and I think that as it is, is better""" start="00:00:46.280" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because we don't really need to have""" start="00:00:49.120" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a whole PDF engine inside Emacs.""" start="00:00:51.000" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um, Next question also from the pad,""" start="00:00:53.440" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the dynamic module some great,""" start="00:00:59.880" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it's amazing that they've been there since 2017.""" start="00:01:01.760" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Why do you think they've been slowly""" start="00:01:06.640" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so slow to get adopted?""" start="00:01:09.840" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Is there a prior art with them? Right?""" start="00:01:11.560" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's a good question.""" start="00:01:14.280" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Actually, I think 1 of the reasons is that.""" start="00:01:16.360" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Most of the time, I think people love Emacs""" start="00:01:22.120" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because they can do so much with Elisp.""" start="00:01:24.920" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think certainly there is a bias""" start="00:01:27.520" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""towards trying to do things with Elisp.""" start="00:01:28.920" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think there's only a sort of specific class of problems""" start="00:01:31.320" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you can solve with dynamic modules,""" start="00:01:35.040" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""such as this, where you want to use a native library""" start="00:01:36.880" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to do something in a faster, better way.""" start="00:01:40.880" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I use that quite a lot.""" start="00:01:44.240" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's of course libvterm, which uses a dynamic module""" start="00:01:48.960" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it does it really well.""" start="00:01:53.320" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I think there's another one, a plotting library""" start="00:01:55.120" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or package in Emacs that was using something from Python.""" start="00:02:00.440" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, dynamic modules are good,""" start="00:02:05.880" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I think they don't really come""" start="00:02:07.880" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to the surface level packages, your day-to-day packages,""" start="00:02:10.040" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because most of the day-to-day packages that we use in Emacs""" start="00:02:13.975" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""can be done with Elisp. So, unless you really need""" start="00:02:17.360" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""something system-level efficient,""" start="00:02:20.880" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Most of the time, you don't want to write C or C++ or something.""" start="00:02:23.200" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But there is actually a really nice Rust crate for native modules,""" start="00:02:29.520" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and there's a really nice Haskell package.""" start="00:02:34.920" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So there's actually really good support""" start="00:02:37.240" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for multiple languages.""" start="00:02:39.880" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it's there, it's just not used as much. 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I thought that was pretty clear.""" start="00:08:06.309" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm looking forward to seeing that blog post""" start="00:08:10.017" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and understanding what I glossed over""" start="00:08:12.017" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""trying to understand from that explanation.""" start="00:08:13.642" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That was great.""" start="00:08:15.861" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Can one look at PDF metadata with Emacs Reader?""" start="00:08:18.421" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Can you do annotations? Does it understand forms?""" start="00:08:22.880" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Can it handle encrypted PDFs?""" start="00:08:26.200" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In other words, I think reading between the lines,""" start="00:08:29.960" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""wow, this is awesome.""" start="00:08:33.160" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Is there anything I can't do? You're right.""" start="00:08:34.280" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So Emacs Reader will be able to do all of those things.""" start="00:08:39.200" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It can do annotations. It will be able to do forms.""" start="00:08:44.120" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And we have an issue open for interpret PDFs.""" start="00:08:48.360" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The thing is, right now we are struggling with""" start="00:08:52.280" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""making Emacs Reader be very efficient""" start="00:08:54.840" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in terms of highlighting and text selection""" start="00:08:58.760" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because of the challenges that I mentioned in the slides,""" start="00:09:02.680" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so it will be able to do all that.""" start="00:09:05.520" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Once we tackle the basic features""" start="00:09:07.960" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""down in an efficient manner. Gotcha. Um.""" start="00:09:10.960" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Comment or questioner says,""" start="00:09:18.600" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I installed Emacs Reader already as promised. 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id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So feel free to join the BBB link""" start="00:10:10.800" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that should have shown in the IRC chat.""" start="00:10:14.520" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Jump in and we can take questions""" start="00:10:17.440" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as long as Divya has steam for that.""" start="00:10:21.560" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If a PDF file is open in Emacs Reader""" start="00:10:26.000" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I reintegrate the PDF with some changes,""" start="00:10:30.440" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""does the Emacs Reader refresh the PDF on its own""" start="00:10:33.200" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or do I reload it?""" start="00:10:36.520" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Right, that's also a really good question.""" start="00:10:38.920" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So one answer is that it depends on""" start="00:10:41.320" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how you change the PDF.""" start="00:10:44.600" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So for example, if I just replaced the PDF""" start="00:10:46.080" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with something else of the same name,""" start="00:10:50.840" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Emacs will update it immediately.""" start="00:10:52.640" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you have auto revert mode on,""" start="00:10:55.800" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it'll just revert the buffer""" start="00:10:57.920" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it'll reload the PDF really nicely.""" start="00:10:59.120" 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That would be nice. Awesome.""" start="00:15:19.880" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So here comes one more question,""" start="00:15:25.200" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or actually a couple more questions coming in.""" start="00:15:28.880" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Following up on dynamic modules,""" start="00:15:31.960" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""do you usually create an Elisp shim""" start="00:15:34.240" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from foreign function interface""" start="00:15:38.480" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then use them with Elisp?""" start="00:15:40.400" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, so basically how you do is you write,""" start="00:15:41.560" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""let's say I have a C function""" start="00:15:46.160" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I've written in the dynamic module.""" start="00:15:49.640" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's a dynamic module function.""" start="00:15:51.400" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then when I'm trying to call""" start="00:15:52.880" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the dynamic module function,""" start="00:15:54.640" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""most of the time, I don't call it like that.""" start="00:15:56.040" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I wrap it inside a proper Elisp function""" start="00:15:59.000" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then call that Elisp function.""" start="00:16:01.680" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's how I think it's better to do that because""" start="00:16:03.560" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can take care of certain cases""" start="00:16:08.280" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on when you want the dynamic module function to be called.""" start="00:16:12.560" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Maybe sometimes you don't want""" start="00:16:15.200" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the dynamic module function""" start="00:16:17.200" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to be called immediately.""" start="00:16:18.840" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it's better to wrap it.""" start="00:16:19.880" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah. 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Um.""" start="00:16:34.320" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Uh, so question question here""" start="00:16:38.960" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is searching for the person is searching for a roadmap.""" start="00:16:44.640" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Is that already available as a feature?""" start="00:16:47.440" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Searching is on the roadmap.""" start="00:16:49.280" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It is not available yet as a feature, but it's on priority.""" start="00:16:52.240" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think you may have may have touched on that.""" start="00:16:56.560" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sorry. All right. Those are the questions that I see.""" start="00:16:59.840" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We've got just a couple of minutes.""" start="00:17:06.560" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm not sure if you have more you wanted to say,""" start="00:17:08.280" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I have to say how much I appreciate your talk,""" start="00:17:10.400" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""especially you jumping in live with us""" start="00:17:13.720" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and just taking everything on the fly.""" start="00:17:16.120" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think this is a big part of what adds the energy,""" start="00:17:19.080" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you in particular, just really dynamic speaker.""" start="00:17:24.560" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I enjoyed it as well.""" start="00:17:28.040" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""A person is, and I think this may have been touched on already,""" start="00:17:31.480" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but let's maybe get into it more specifically.""" start="00:17:37.160" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We've said that search is kind of""" start="00:17:39.440" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a next up type of feature as things,""" start="00:17:42.160" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as the current iteration stabilizes.""" start="00:17:44.720" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Question was, you know, occur like, how would you?""" start="00:17:48.160" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Totally. There will be occur searches.""" start="00:17:52.240" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There will be isearch enabled, isearch.""" start="00:17:56.160" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""used to with PDF tools,""" start="00:17:59.640" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we would be like parity with the features,""" start="00:18:02.880" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""all the features that you're used to with PDF tools.""" start="00:18:06.440" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um, so, uh, certainly occur anything""" start="00:18:08.720" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that is important in Emacs with text""" start="00:18:12.600" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and that can be done with PDFs.""" start="00:18:15.680" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We really want to do that because, um,""" start="00:18:17.360" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I want the package to be as knitted""" start="00:18:19.840" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""into Emacs ecosystem as possible.""" start="00:18:22.680" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay. We'll see if we can get in this last question here.""" start="00:18:24.960" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Do you have a timing expectation for ELPA?""" start="00:18:28.160" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Uh, yeah, next major release essentially.""" start="00:18:30.320" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So next major release is most likely""" start="00:18:33.200" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""going to be within a month or two.""" start="00:18:35.280" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So once we have the next major release, we're going to be.""" start="00:18:37.320" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Uh, timing couldn't be more perfect.""" start="00:18:39.640" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Maybe this is a good, good point to break.""" start="00:18:43.480" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We'll be cutting away to the next talk""" start="00:18:45.520" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in just a couple of minutes.""" start="00:18:47.760" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So let me say one more time how much""" start="00:18:48.880" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on behalf of all the attendees""" start="00:18:51.480" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and all the volunteers and all everybody,""" start="00:18:52.960" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""um, how much we appreciate your talks""" start="00:18:54.960" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and, uh, your awesome contribution to the Emacs world.""" start="00:18:57.080" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thanks, Corwin.""" start="00:19:01.300" video="qanda-reader" id="subtitle"]] + +</div>Questions or comments? 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fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 4 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(658,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 5 PM</text></g></svg> -</div> - [[!toc ]] -Format: 35-min talk ; Q&A: BigBlueButton conference room <https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-reader.html> Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-reader> +Format: 35-min talk ; Q&A: BigBlueButton conference room Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-reader> Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-reader> -Discuss on IRC: [#emacsconf-gen](https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-gen) -Status: Q&A open for participation -<div>Times in different time zones:</div><div class="times" start="2025-12-07T14:40:00Z" end="2025-12-07T15:15:00Z"><div class="conf-time">Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~9:40 AM - 10:15 AM EST (US/Eastern)</div><div class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~8:40 AM - 9:15 AM CST (US/Central)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~7:40 AM - 8:15 AM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~6:40 AM - 7:15 AM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~2:40 PM - 3:15 PM UTC <br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~3:40 PM - 4:15 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~4:40 PM - 5:15 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~8:10 PM - 8:45 PM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~10:40 PM - 11:15 PM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~11:40 PM - 12:15 AM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><strong><a href="/2025/watch/gen/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></strong></div> +Status: TO_REVIEW_QA + +# Talk + <div class="vid mainVideo"><video controls preload="none" id="mainVideo-reader"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--main.vtt" default />"""<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--main--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="mainVideo-reader" data=""" -00:00:00.720 An introduction to the Emacs reader +00:00.720 An introduction to the Emacs reader 00:44.760 Yet another document viewer in Emacs? 02:05.760 Architecture of Emacs Reader 06:00.280 A word on dynamic modules @@ -31,6 +27,10 @@ Status: Q&A open for participation 32:32.300 Contributing to the development 33:35.520 Acknowledgements -"""]]<div></div>Duration: 34:37 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-reader">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-reader.html">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--main.opus">Download --main.opus (30MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--main.webm">Download --main.webm (101MB)</a></li></ul></div></div> +"""]]<div></div>Duration: 34:37 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-reader">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--main.opus">Download --main.opus (30MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--main.webm">Download --main.webm (101MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/KQBXTSg_Occ">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> + +# Q&A + +<div class="vid qanda"><video controls preload="none" id="qanda-reader"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--answers.m4v" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--answers.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div></div>Duration: 20:12 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-reader">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--answers.json">Download --answers.json</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--answers.m4v">Download --answers.m4v (82MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--answers.tsv">Download --answers.tsv</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--answers.txt">Download --answers.txt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--answers.vtt">Download --answers.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-reader--an-introduction-to-the-emacs-reader--divy--answers.webm">Download --answers.webm (77MB)</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/reader-nav.md b/2025/info/reader-nav.md index 3811de7f..c0b83e2a 100644 --- a/2025/info/reader-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/reader-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/modern">Some problems of modernizing Emacs</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/weights">Weightlifting tracking with Emacs on Android</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/modern">Some problems of modernizing Emacs</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/weights">Weightlifting tracking with Emacs on Android</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/reference-before.md b/2025/info/reference-before.md index 713e80d7..66a6bb92 100644 --- a/2025/info/reference-before.md +++ b/2025/info/reference-before.md @@ -1,21 +1,15 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sat 2025-12-06. 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\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/reference-nav.md b/2025/info/reference-nav.md index 699b7825..12badcf3 100644 --- a/2025/info/reference-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/reference-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/schemacs">One year progress update Schemacs (formerly Gypsum)</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/gmail">org-gmail: A deep integration of Gmail into your Org Mode</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/org-babel">Making Org-Babel reactive</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/gmail">org-gmail: A deep integration of Gmail into your Org Mode</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/sat-close-before.md b/2025/info/sat-close-before.md index 7633a02e..a43ba272 100644 --- a/2025/info/sat-close-before.md +++ b/2025/info/sat-close-before.md @@ -1,19 +1,13 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sat 2025-12-06. 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Dashed lines show talks with Q&A via IRC or Etherpad.<div class="schedule-in-context schedule-svg-container" data-slug="sat-close"> -<svg width="700" height="150" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"> <title> Schedule for Saturday</title> <rect width="700" height="150" x="0" y="0" fill="white"></rect> <text font-size="10" fill="black" y="12" x="3"> Saturday</text> <a href="/2025/talks/sat-open" title="Saturday opening remarks" data-slug="sat-open"> <title> 9:00- 9:10 Saturday opening remarks</title> <rect x="0" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="13" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(11,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> sat-open</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/org-babel" title="Making Org-Babel reactive" data-slug="org-babel"> <title> 9:10- 9:20 Making Org-Babel reactive</title> <rect x="13" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="13" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(24,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> org-babel</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/reference" title="Emacs as a fully-fledged reference manager" data-slug="reference"> <title> 9:30- 9:55 Emacs as a fully-fledged reference manager</title> <rect x="41" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="34" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(73,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> reference</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/gmail" title="org-gmail: A deep integration of Gmail into your Org Mode" data-slug="gmail"> <title> 10:15-10:40 org-gmail: A deep integration of Gmail into your Org Mode</title> <rect x="102" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="34" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(134,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> gmail</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/gnus" title="Reading and writing emails in GNU Emacs with Gnus" data-slug="gnus"> <title> 10:50-11:15 Reading and writing emails in GNU Emacs with Gnus</title> <rect x="150" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="34" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(182,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> gnus</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/latex" title="LaTeX export in org-mode: the overhaul" data-slug="latex"> <title> 11:25-11:45 LaTeX export in org-mode: the overhaul</title> <rect x="199" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="27" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(224,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> latex</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/calc" title="Basic Calc functionality for engineering or electronics" data-slug="calc"> <title> 1:00- 1:25 Basic Calc functionality for engineering or electronics</title> <rect x="329" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="34" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(361,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> calc</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/blee-lcnt" title="Blee-LCNT: An Emacs-centered content production and self-publication framework" data-slug="blee-lcnt"> <title> 1:35- 2:15 Blee-LCNT: An Emacs-centered content production and self-publication framework</title> <rect x="377" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="54" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(429,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> blee-lcnt</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/greader" title="GNU Emacs Greader (Gnamù Reader) mode is the best Emacs mode in existence" data-slug="greader"> <title> 2:35- 2:40 GNU Emacs Greader (Gnamù Reader) mode is the best Emacs mode in existence</title> <rect x="459" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="6" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(463,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> greader</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/open-mic" title="Open session" data-slug="open-mic"> <title> 2:50- 3:40 Open session</title> <rect x="480" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="68" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(546,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> open-mic</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/sat-close" title="Saturday closing remarks / open session" data-slug="sat-close"> <title> 4:00- 4:10 Saturday closing remarks / open session</title> <rect stroke-width="3" x="576" y="15" opacity="0.8" width="13" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g 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font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> juicemacs</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/swanky" title="Swanky Python: Interactive development for Python" data-slug="swanky"> <title> 10:45-11:10 Swanky Python: Interactive development for Python</title> <rect x="144" y="75" opacity="0.5" width="34" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="skyblue"></rect> <g transform="translate(176,133)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> swanky</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/python" title="Interactive Python programming in Emacs" data-slug="python"> <title> 11:20-11:40 Interactive Python programming in Emacs</title> <rect x="192" y="75" opacity="0.5" width="27" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="skyblue"></rect> <g transform="translate(217,133)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> python</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/llm" title="Emacs, editors, and LLM driven workflows" data-slug="llm"> 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y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 4 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(658,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 5 PM</text></g></svg> -</div> - [[!toc ]] -Format: 10-min talk ; Q&A: BigBlueButton conference room <https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-sat-close.html> Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sat-close> +Format: 10-min talk ; Q&A: BigBlueButton conference room Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sat-close> Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sat-close> -Discuss on IRC: [#emacsconf-gen](https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-gen) Status: Q&A finished, IRC and pad will be archived on this page -<div class="vid mainVideo"><div></div><div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sat-close">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-sat-close.html">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sat-close--saturday-closing-remarks--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sat-close--saturday-closing-remarks--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li></ul></div></div> +<div class="vid mainVideo"><div></div><div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sat-close">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sat-close--saturday-closing-remarks--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sat-close--saturday-closing-remarks--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/sat-close-nav.md b/2025/info/sat-close-nav.md index fe14f1b1..5c247a9a 100644 --- a/2025/info/sat-close-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/sat-close-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/graphics">Modern Emacs/Elisp hardware/software accelerated graphics</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/sun-open">Sunday opening remarks</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/graphics">Modern Emacs/Elisp hardware/software accelerated graphics</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/sun-close">Sunday closing remarks</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/sat-open-before.md b/2025/info/sat-open-before.md index 178d7516..5842eeb0 100644 --- a/2025/info/sat-open-before.md +++ b/2025/info/sat-open-before.md @@ -1,13 +1,7 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sat 2025-12-06. Solid lines show talks with Q&A via BigBlueButton. Dashed lines show talks with Q&A via IRC or Etherpad.<div class="schedule-in-context schedule-svg-container" data-slug="sat-open"> -<svg width="700" height="150" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"> <title> Schedule for Saturday</title> <rect width="700" height="150" x="0" y="0" fill="white"></rect> <text font-size="10" fill="black" y="12" x="3"> Saturday</text> <a href="/2025/talks/sat-open" title="Saturday opening remarks" data-slug="sat-open"> <title> 9:00- 9:10 Saturday opening remarks</title> <rect stroke-width="3" x="0" y="15" opacity="0.8" width="13" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(11,73)"> <text font-weight="bold" fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> sat-open</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/org-babel" title="Making Org-Babel reactive" data-slug="org-babel"> <title> 9:10- 9:20 Making Org-Babel reactive</title> <rect x="13" 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\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/sat-open-nav.md b/2025/info/sat-open-nav.md index 00816f18..e7317183 100644 --- a/2025/info/sat-open-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/sat-open-nav.md @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/org-babel">Making Org-Babel reactive</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/org-babel">Making Org-Babel reactive</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/schemacs-after.md b/2025/info/schemacs-after.md index 595a5d18..65fe55f1 100644 --- a/2025/info/schemacs-after.md +++ b/2025/info/schemacs-after.md @@ -405,7 +405,520 @@ Captioner: sachac -Questions or comments? Please e-mail [emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org](mailto:emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20schemacs%3A%20One%20year%20progress%20update%20Schemacs%20%28formerly%20Gypsum%29) +<div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="schemacs-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""[oops, forgot to start] object protocol has a scheme implementation.""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Does this mean schemacs will be""" start="00:00:03.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""meta object changeable in practice?""" start="00:00:07.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I don't actually need the meta object protocol so far.""" start="00:00:11.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""In the reference implementation for Guile,""" start="00:00:16.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Guile has its own object-oriented system called Goops.""" start="00:00:19.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm sorry, I'm hearing a delay.""" start="00:00:27.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Anyway, I'm going to turn off my stream quick. There we go.""" start="00:00:29.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, um. Yes, uh, I, I don't I wasn't aware of the, um.""" start="00:00:32.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the meta-object protocol that you have mentioned here,""" start="00:00:39.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I will look into it.""" start="00:00:43.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I know that there isn't really a standard""" start="00:00:45.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""meta-object protocol for Scheme.""" start="00:00:48.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That was an issue for me""" start="00:00:52.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I'm trying to make this cross-platform,""" start="00:00:53.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and so I've done all of my work so far""" start="00:00:56.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""without a meta-object protocol""" start="00:00:59.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because that's the easiest way to make it work""" start="00:01:00.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on multiple Scheme implementations.""" start="00:01:02.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But if there is a nice portable one""" start="00:01:04.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that works on many implementations, I would use that, yes.""" start="00:01:07.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's just that so far it hasn't been necessary.""" start="00:01:12.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've been doing mostly functional reactive programming""" start="00:01:15.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and React.js-like framework.""" start="00:01:19.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've created that for the GUI front end.""" start="00:01:21.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that's all the more I've needed so far.""" start="00:01:23.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, yeah. Oh, yeah, please, next question. Sure.""" start="00:01:26.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So how will the GUI display code be R7RS compliant?""" start="00:01:33.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""As far as I know, there's no DL open in R7RS. That's right.""" start="00:01:39.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, R7RS small is extremely small""" start="00:01:45.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and does not have any features at all.""" start="00:01:48.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But it does provide a conv expand macro.""" start="00:01:50.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And this allows you to load in different code""" start="00:01:54.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""depending on which scheme implementation you're using.""" start="00:01:57.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So basically, I'll have to write a different back end""" start="00:02:00.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for each scheme implementation.""" start="00:02:03.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I think that's really""" start="00:02:05.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the only way is possible at all,""" start="00:02:06.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because there's no standardization.""" start="00:02:10.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So essentially, the libraries""" start="00:02:12.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I've written for schemacs""" start="00:02:14.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""will become kind of a platform-independent way""" start="00:02:15.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of writing GUIs for Scheme.""" start="00:02:22.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's just a matter of,""" start="00:02:25.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""will your Scheme implementation""" start="00:02:27.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""support the Schemacs GUI protocol?""" start="00:02:28.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I've kind of written my own protocol,""" start="00:02:32.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it's entirely R7 RSML compliant.""" start="00:02:34.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's all done with record,""" start="00:02:36.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what are they called, record types.""" start="00:02:38.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Do you think some of the Schemacs""" start="00:02:43.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""could be extracted into SFRIs since you've made it portable""" start="00:02:46.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""between scheme implementations?""" start="00:02:50.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, I would definitely like to do that.""" start="00:02:52.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Probably first thing I'll do is start splitting up""" start="00:02:55.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and publishing independent libraries""" start="00:02:59.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on the Aku package manager.""" start="00:03:01.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is a kind of a package manager ecosystem for Scheme,""" start="00:03:04.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and in particular R7RS Scheme.""" start="00:03:07.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it's also mirrored on the other package manager,""" start="00:03:11.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Snowfort, just by the way.""" start="00:03:15.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yeah, and then I might be also,""" start="00:03:18.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've considered creating a SRFI for the lens library,""" start="00:03:21.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is based on the Haskell lens library.""" start="00:03:25.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't think that exists yet in Scheme,""" start="00:03:27.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I thought that might make a good SRFI.""" start="00:03:29.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Is there a recommended Scheme implementation?""" start="00:03:34.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Guile is the reference implementation.""" start="00:03:36.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's the only one that works with GUI,""" start="00:03:44.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but as I demonstrated in my presentation,""" start="00:03:47.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the Emacs Lisp interpreter""" start="00:03:51.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""works on multiple schemes so far,""" start="00:03:52.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I've had trouble with some of the scheme compilers.""" start="00:03:55.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yeah, I would recommend Guile.""" start="00:04:00.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But how would schemacs deal with""" start="00:04:04.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Emacs's re-display architecture""" start="00:04:07.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""will be having its own display architecture?""" start="00:04:10.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And if so, how will you handle""" start="00:04:13.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""things like overlays and images?""" start="00:04:15.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, definitely. That's to be determined.""" start="00:04:18.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So basically, the scheme way of doing things""" start="00:04:25.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, I've created this React-like programming framework.""" start="00:04:31.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's like ReactJS or Vue.js.""" start="00:04:36.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That is just the API of how you write GUI code in Scheme.""" start="00:04:41.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And each Scheme implementation""" start="00:04:45.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""will have its own GUI backend,""" start="00:04:49.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which implements that Protocol.""" start="00:04:52.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so when it comes time to link""" start="00:04:55.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the Emacs Lisp built-in functions""" start="00:04:59.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that do these things like overlays and so on,""" start="00:05:03.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we're going to have to come up with some way""" start="00:05:08.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of modeling that""" start="00:05:11.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""using the scheme framework that I've designed.""" start="00:05:12.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I may have to make alterations""" start="00:05:15.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""specifically to support Emacs Lisp.""" start="00:05:17.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't know yet. I haven't got that far.""" start="00:05:22.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You were saying that you would like""" start="00:05:28.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to get the most out of the 1300""" start="00:05:30.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and something Emacs packages that exist.""" start="00:05:33.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Are there technical blockers to doing them all""" start="00:05:36.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or just a problem of getting enough people to jump into it?""" start="00:05:38.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, it's just a matter of implementing enough""" start="00:05:44.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the Emacs built-in functions.""" start="00:05:48.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Right now, there's kind of a big bug.""" start="00:05:50.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mentioned this also in the presentation.""" start="00:05:57.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The stacks trace that you saw during my presentation,""" start="00:05:59.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that is the biggest bug right now""" start="00:06:02.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's preventing me from running most other code.""" start="00:06:05.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I don't think other people""" start="00:06:08.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""will be able to contribute to the code base""" start="00:06:10.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""until I get that bug fixed,""" start="00:06:13.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it doesn't capture closures correctly.""" start="00:06:14.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it doesn't behave like Emacs Lisp does,""" start="00:06:18.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and that's the big problem.""" start="00:06:22.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So once I get that worked out,""" start="00:06:26.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then it's just a matter of implementing enough""" start="00:06:31.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the EmacsLisp built-in functions,""" start="00:06:35.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""these are the functions that are mostly implemented in C,""" start="00:06:37.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""implementing those in Scheme.""" start="00:06:40.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that, yeah, that's the thing""" start="00:06:42.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I'm going to need a lot of help with""" start="00:06:45.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because there's quite a few of those APIs.""" start="00:06:47.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I imagine, I have no idea, no way of knowing,""" start="00:06:49.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I imagine we don't need 100% of them""" start="00:06:53.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in order to run most of Elpa.""" start="00:06:56.460" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We probably can get some of the important large Elpa packages""" start="00:06:58.168" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like Magit and Org mode with just enough of the Emacs Lisp""" start="00:07:05.085" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""built-in functions to handle that.""" start="00:07:12.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But we won't really know until we've tried.""" start="00:07:14.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yeah, I'll try to get this bug fixed right away.""" start="00:07:19.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That way we can all start working on it together, hopefully.""" start="00:07:22.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Highly relatable answer there.""" start="00:07:24.980" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We'll burn that bridge when we're on it or something.""" start="00:07:27.127" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What are your thoughts on chicken scheme?""" start="00:07:31.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Will that be a good fit? Do you think?""" start="00:07:34.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think it will be, um, I, I did show""" start="00:07:37.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""trying to run chicken scheme in my, um, presentation""" start="00:07:41.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and, uh, I ran up against some kind of issue,""" start="00:07:44.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which I really don't know how to debug.""" start="00:07:48.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um, it's probably something to do with the, uh, pattern matcher.""" start="00:07:51.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um, I'm using the pattern matcher,""" start="00:07:55.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""uh, written by Alex shin,""" start="00:07:58.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which seems to be the most portable.""" start="00:08:00.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Pattern matcher, uh, for our seven RS scheme.""" start="00:08:02.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But not all scheme compilers implement, what is it called?""" start="00:08:05.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The macro, I can't remember what it's called.""" start="00:08:13.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's the macro expansion system for R7 RS small.""" start="00:08:19.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All of these scheme implementations""" start="00:08:24.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""seem to have a slightly different take on how they work.""" start="00:08:27.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so that macro expander has been, for pattern matching,""" start="00:08:29.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""has been the biggest difficulty""" start="00:08:33.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in making this code portable.""" start="00:08:35.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so I'm thinking of ways of maybe trying to ditch pattern matching,""" start="00:08:37.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but that's such a useful feature and it's hard.""" start="00:08:42.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I don't know, we'll see if I can,""" start="00:08:45.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if somebody can help me get it to work on chicken team,""" start="00:08:49.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'd really appreciate it.""" start="00:08:52.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Can this implementation be used by Guile's Emacs Lisp mode?""" start="00:08:56.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Guile's Emacs list mode. Okay. Yeah, good question.""" start="00:09:01.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I did mention this last year in my presentation.""" start="00:09:08.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Emacs list in Guile is totally different""" start="00:09:10.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from what I've done.""" start="00:09:13.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That implementation was written about 10 or 15 years ago.""" start="00:09:16.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can't remember exactly when. It is quite incomplete.""" start="00:09:21.293" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't think it even runs most of the macro expanding code.""" start="00:09:26.502" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Some of the code that is written""" start="00:09:36.543" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for GNU Emacs in Emacs Lisp,""" start="00:09:39.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where GNU Emacs is initializing itself,""" start="00:09:42.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it can't even get the first file in that code.""" start="00:09:45.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It hasn't been touched in 10 or 15 years.""" start="00:09:51.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Initially, when I first started this project,""" start="00:09:53.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I was using the parser""" start="00:09:57.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for Guile's Emacs Lisp implementation,""" start="00:09:59.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it didn't give me things like source locations,""" start="00:10:02.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I had to rewrite that. And also, it wasn't portable.""" start="00:10:05.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yeah, because I want it to be portable,""" start="00:10:10.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's necessarily going to be not reliant""" start="00:10:14.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on anything that's inside of the Guile library,""" start="00:10:16.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""including the Emacs LISP interpreter that's there.""" start="00:10:19.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Maybe I could replace the Emacs LISP interpreter in Guile""" start="00:10:21.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if Andy Wingo would be interested. All right.""" start="00:10:24.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I see we've got a few people""" start="00:10:29.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that did jump into the BBB.""" start="00:10:31.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm just going to quickly, oops.""" start="00:10:34.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""quickly try to make my text a little bigger""" start="00:10:37.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I can read a question that came here.""" start="00:10:40.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I wonder if we can do some sort of pragmatic analysis""" start="00:10:42.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on popular Emacs packages""" start="00:10:48.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to see what list of functions they tend to depend on""" start="00:10:49.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""while a function calls down to the lower level.""" start="00:10:52.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, that would be good.""" start="00:10:54.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Somebody please do that for me. Awesome.""" start="00:10:57.210" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Somebody's raising their hand. Divya.""" start="00:11:02.252" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's see. Yeah, can you hear me?""" start="00:11:05.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, I can. Yeah, go ahead. Hello, thank you.""" start="00:11:08.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, this is really awesome.""" start="00:11:12.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I use Guile, and I love Guile,""" start="00:11:14.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I also love functional programming,""" start="00:11:16.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so this is really nice that you took""" start="00:11:18.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the declarative approach.""" start="00:11:21.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""One thing that I'm interested in is,""" start="00:11:22.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are you also considering Racket in the scheme group?""" start="00:11:26.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Because I know a lot of people do not consider Racket""" start="00:11:29.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as a sort of scheme thing, because it grew out of it.""" start="00:11:32.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Do you think you'll take something from Racket?""" start="00:11:36.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Because I think Racket has""" start="00:11:39.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a lot of good ideas that can be used.""" start="00:11:42.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, I briefly looked at Racket's GUI library,""" start="00:11:44.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it's very, very heavily dependent""" start="00:11:48.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on Racket's macro expander,""" start="00:11:51.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is, well, yeah, the macro expander""" start="00:11:53.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is extremely complex for Racket,""" start="00:11:57.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I don't think it's possible to port it to any other scheme,""" start="00:11:59.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as far as I know. But Racket is based on SheaScheme.""" start="00:12:02.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I am making an effort to port my code to Shea's scheme.""" start="00:12:07.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mentioned this earlier,""" start="00:12:14.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but there's the Gwen Weinholdt Aku system,""" start="00:12:18.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which allows you to translate R7RS to R6RS.""" start="00:12:22.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And since Shea is an R6RS compiler,""" start="00:12:25.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I did at one point get the Emacs Lisp interpreter""" start="00:12:28.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to compile for Shea,""" start="00:12:33.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""although I think There's been a change""" start="00:12:34.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""either to Aku or somewhere in my own code base.""" start="00:12:38.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It doesn't build anymore, and I'm not sure why.""" start="00:12:40.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I would also very much like to run this on Che.""" start="00:12:42.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I guess in that sense, we'll be able to work on Racket as well.""" start="00:12:47.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's also one other option.""" start="00:12:54.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Alexis King has written an R7RS language package for Racket.""" start="00:12:56.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have not yet tried.""" start="00:13:03.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""running my package on R7RS for Racket.""" start="00:13:05.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But that would be something interesting.""" start="00:13:08.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, I would like to try that.""" start="00:13:11.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, it'll be interesting.""" start="00:13:12.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I do have some experience with chairs.""" start="00:13:13.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, uh, if I can find some time,""" start="00:13:15.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll, I'll, I'll certainly like to, I would appreciate.""" start="00:13:17.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah.""" start="00:13:21.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Another question I have is, like,""" start="00:13:24.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what exactly is sort of, like, the, the approach is that""" start="00:13:26.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you'll 1st want to do the interpreter""" start="00:13:29.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then have enough list functions.""" start="00:13:31.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Uh, getting the max list functions""" start="00:13:33.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""interpreted or interpretable.""" start="00:13:36.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then go for GUI or do you want""" start="00:13:38.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to sort of like go hand in hand""" start="00:13:41.000" 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I do anticipate""" start="00:16:05.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's going to be fairly challenging.""" start="00:16:08.002" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's all Turing-complete,""" start="00:16:09.877" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I imagine we're probably going to end up""" start="00:16:14.585" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""creating something like an emulator""" start="00:16:17.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for the Emacs Lisp display architecture in Scheme""" start="00:16:21.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that will somehow translate down""" start="00:16:24.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to the React-like protocol that I've written.""" start="00:16:27.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yeah, I don't I haven't that's nice.""" start="00:16:30.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""No, this is this is very exciting. 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Oh Yes, it is.""" start="00:16:32.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, I'm glad so like a lot of people have told me""" start="00:16:36.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that they really Are excited to see this project""" start="00:16:39.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and this really helps me""" start="00:16:41.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You know keep focused on this project""" start="00:16:42.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because a lot of people are very interested.""" start="00:16:46.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So It's so I'd like to move on""" start="00:16:48.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to a couple of questions from the past.""" start="00:16:50.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We're starting to build up a good backlog.""" start="00:16:52.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you for that. 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Okay, next question.""" start="00:19:17.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Are there performance concerns""" start="00:19:21.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with implementing certain C primitives in PeerScheme?""" start="00:19:23.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So who is it? The famous computer scientist that said""" start="00:19:28.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""premature optimization is the root of all evil.""" start="00:19:32.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think it was the guy who invented the A star algorithm.""" start="00:19:35.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""His name escapes me at the minute.""" start="00:19:39.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yeah, I'm not concerned about performance yet,""" start="00:19:42.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""although most of the scheme compilers that I have seen,""" start="00:19:49.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""especially Shea and Gambit""" start="00:19:52.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""have extremely good performance characteristics.""" start="00:19:57.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so I think there won't be""" start="00:20:02.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""too much difficulty with performance,""" start="00:20:03.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""even implementing some of the C stuff.""" start="00:20:05.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And besides, a lot of the GUI stuff""" start="00:20:08.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is already written in C anyway.""" start="00:20:10.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean, it would be cool""" start="00:20:12.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if we had a scheme GUI library""" start="00:20:14.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that painted to a canvas,""" start="00:20:16.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""maybe for a Wayland implementation or something.""" start="00:20:18.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I don't know. It's not a concern for me, performance.""" start="00:20:21.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, there are a few more questions. I do want to mention""" start="00:20:29.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that the stream has cut away at this point,""" start="00:20:32.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but we're still recording live.""" start="00:20:33.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All of this will be put up on the website""" start="00:20:36.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and so on like that.""" start="00:20:38.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, I appreciate all the enthusiastic questions""" start="00:20:40.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you're kind of tanking through them all.""" start="00:20:44.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Me too. I love how many questions I'm getting.""" start="00:20:47.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is very encouraging""" start="00:20:52.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it really makes me want to keep on working on it.""" start="00:20:54.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it's great.""" start="00:20:56.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm so glad to hear that because that's exactly the message""" start="00:20:56.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think you should be receiving.""" start="00:21:00.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is a fantastic project. Thank you so much.""" start="00:21:01.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll just say so myself. If the project is successful,""" start="00:21:04.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are you worried about a possible split in the community""" start="00:21:08.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""between Schemacs and GNU Emacs?""" start="00:21:11.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, I have thought about that.""" start="00:21:15.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I really don't know what's going to happen.""" start="00:21:18.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There seems to be already a huge demand""" start="00:21:24.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for a scheme-based, a modern scheme-based editor.""" start="00:21:26.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You know, the Edwin scheme for MIT scheme""" start="00:21:30.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""hasn't been touched since like 1987 or something,""" start="00:21:33.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""maybe 1993 or, but anyway.""" start="00:21:37.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There seems to be huge demand.""" start="00:21:41.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so I guess a lot of people""" start="00:21:43.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""who are currently using GNU Emacs""" start="00:21:45.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""will probably just switch over""" start="00:21:47.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because they've been wanting""" start="00:21:49.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""something like this for a very long time.""" start="00:21:50.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then, I mean, is that going to cause fragmentation?""" start="00:21:53.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Is it really a big deal, though?""" start="00:21:56.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean, it's all GPL-licensed code.""" start="00:21:58.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean, I think a rising tide raises all the ships at the same time.""" start="00:22:02.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, yeah, also, the last thing I want to say about that""" start="00:22:08.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is I would like to contribute some of what I do in Schemacs""" start="00:22:13.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""back into GNU Emacs, if I can. So, for example, I'm going""" start="00:22:19.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to be working on like a canvas library""" start="00:22:24.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where you can have interactive canvases""" start="00:22:25.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you know you can actually like draw pictures""" start="00:22:27.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and put things with the mouse and drag things around.""" start="00:22:30.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I was thinking you know""" start="00:22:33.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if if I can figure out how that works""" start="00:22:36.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""maybe I can write something like that for Emacs""" start="00:22:37.668" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or GNU Emacs using the Cairo library, you know,""" start="00:22:41.918" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""SVG rendering library that they have.""" start="00:22:47.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, you know, if I have time,""" start="00:22:49.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I would like to continue contributing to GNU Emacs as well.""" start="00:22:51.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm sorry, what was the name of the library you mentioned?""" start="00:22:55.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, Cairo, like Cairo.""" start="00:22:57.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, Cairo, yeah. Absolutely. I spelled that poorly.""" start="00:23:01.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The dream of never needing to change to the web browser.""" start="00:23:07.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Would schemacs bring us closer to that? I hope so.""" start="00:23:12.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's also a dream of mine.""" start="00:23:18.377" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The part of the reason why I wanted to work, you know,""" start="00:23:21.710" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""make sure I had a really good workable GUI framework""" start="00:23:26.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is so that I could, you know,""" start="00:23:31.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we could write apps like, you know,""" start="00:23:32.627" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""they have a mastodon client written in Emacs Lisp.""" start="00:23:34.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that would be so nice to have this, you know,""" start="00:23:38.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a really nice Mastodon client""" start="00:23:42.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that was right inside of, you know, our scheme environment""" start="00:23:43.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where we were doing our text editing and other stuff.""" start="00:23:47.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've always wanted something like that,""" start="00:23:50.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or it would be cool to have""" start="00:23:52.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just a slightly nicer GUI for Magit.""" start="00:23:53.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, yeah, I mean, like, yeah, being able to avoid the web entirely""" start="00:23:56.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and just be able to like, you know, do social networking""" start="00:24:04.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and do your GitHub stuff,""" start="00:24:08.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""everything from within Emacs or Schemacs in this case,""" start="00:24:11.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's a dream of mine as well.""" start="00:24:14.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so I hope that that's where we end up in a couple of years.""" start="00:24:16.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The sooner the better. Anything, just double checking.""" start="00:24:20.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Anything specific other than minimalism""" start="00:24:30.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that made you choose Scheme over Commonwealth?""" start="00:24:33.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, yeah, it's kind of a philosophical question.""" start="00:24:35.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So a couple of things. First of all, it was a conversation""" start="00:24:40.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I had with William Byrd,""" start="00:24:45.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and he's a guy who makes the Mini Conran framework for Scheme.""" start="00:24:47.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It was his PhD thesis.""" start="00:24:50.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""He worked with, I'm sorry, I just can't remember his name.""" start="00:24:52.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""He worked at the University of Indiana.""" start="00:24:57.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Another famous Scheme or Lisp person was there.""" start="00:24:59.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Friedman, Dan Friedman was his advisor.""" start="00:25:03.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, big name in Lisp.""" start="00:25:06.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Anyway, so I was talking with William Byrd,""" start="00:25:09.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I'm a huge Haskell fan,""" start="00:25:12.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and he told me why he didn't like Haskell at all,""" start="00:25:14.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and kind of convinced me to try Scheme out.""" start="00:25:16.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And what I really like about Scheme is,""" start="00:25:19.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""yeah, like you said, the minimalism,""" start="00:25:22.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it's more that it is very close""" start="00:25:25.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to the mathematical framework of lambda calculus.""" start="00:25:29.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Haskell is probably the most pure""" start="00:25:34.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""lambda calculus that I've ever used,""" start="00:25:38.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but Scheme is like the simply typed lambda calculus,""" start="00:25:39.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and That just appeals to me.""" start="00:25:45.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think, you know, if you have this tiny, tiny core language""" start="00:25:47.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from which all of the computing can be defined,""" start="00:25:50.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think it's kind of a shame""" start="00:25:55.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that so far we just haven't explored that space yet.""" start="00:25:57.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean, there's compared to JavaScript or Python,""" start="00:26:00.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there's very little scheme code out there""" start="00:26:03.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it could be doing so much. And I would just like to try""" start="00:26:05.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and expand the scheme ecosystem""" start="00:26:08.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and see just what this tiny little language can do.""" start="00:26:10.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I think we haven't even seen""" start="00:26:13.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a fraction of what it can do.""" start="00:26:14.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's why I've chosen scheme.""" start="00:26:16.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Divya, I see you've got a bunch more comments.""" start="00:26:22.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think we're just about close to our time here,""" start="00:26:24.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but if you wanted to jump back in,""" start="00:26:26.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm sorry, I had to cut you off a little before.""" start="00:26:28.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""No, it's fine. No, it's fine.""" start="00:26:30.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think I agree with most of what he said.""" start="00:26:33.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, yeah, thank you so much.""" start="00:26:36.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um, closing thoughts, Ramin.""" start="00:26:40.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, I guess everybody, please, if you're interested,""" start="00:26:45.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""keep watching my Mastodon and keep watching my Codeberg.""" start="00:26:51.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm going to try and squash this bug as quickly as I can.""" start="00:26:56.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I hope early next year,""" start="00:27:01.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""hopefully not much later than February,""" start="00:27:03.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll actually be able to start taking in contributions""" start="00:27:07.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for some of the Emacs Lisp built-ins in the code base.""" start="00:27:12.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, please keep watching. The pace of my development""" start="00:27:16.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""has increased pretty rapidly recently,""" start="00:27:21.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I think we're pretty close""" start="00:27:24.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to getting something that we can all use together.""" start="00:27:25.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you once again for your amazing talk,""" start="00:27:29.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for your exceptional work,""" start="00:27:31.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and for jumping in, doing the live Q&A,""" start="00:27:34.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""rolling with us here as we have yet another""" start="00:27:36.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We'll See How It Goes conference.""" start="00:27:40.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's been just amazing so far,""" start="00:27:42.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and this talk is no small part of that. Thank you.""" start="00:27:44.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, thank you so much. Yeah. OK, cool.""" start="00:27:46.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And thanks for all the questions, everyone.""" start="00:27:50.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +</div>Questions or comments? Please e-mail [emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org](mailto:emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20schemacs%3A%20One%20year%20progress%20update%20Schemacs%20%28formerly%20Gypsum%29) <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-after-page --> diff --git a/2025/info/schemacs-before.md b/2025/info/schemacs-before.md index acdbb81c..8c91e627 100644 --- a/2025/info/schemacs-before.md +++ b/2025/info/schemacs-before.md @@ -1,18 +1,14 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sat 2025-12-06. 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src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--main.vtt" default />"""<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--main--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="mainVideo-schemacs" data=""" 02:07.200 The scope of the project @@ -25,6 +21,10 @@ Status: Q&A finished, IRC and pad will be archived on this page 17:06.200 GUI framework 21:51.520 Wrapping up -"""]]<div></div>Duration: 23:14 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-schemacs">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-schemacs.html">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--main.opus">Download --main.opus (10MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--main.webm">Download --main.webm (63MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/KmMeLfYn1xY">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> +"""]]<div></div>Duration: 23:14 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-schemacs">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--main.opus">Download --main.opus (10MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--main.png">Download --main.png</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--main.webm">Download --main.webm (63MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/KmMeLfYn1xY">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> + +# Q&A + +<div class="vid qanda"><video controls preload="none" id="qanda-schemacs"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--answers.m4v" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--answers.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div></div>Duration: 31:11 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-schemacs">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--answers.json">Download --answers.json</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--answers.m4v">Download --answers.m4v (101MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--answers.tsv">Download --answers.tsv</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--answers.txt">Download --answers.txt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--answers.vtt">Download --answers.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-schemacs--one-year-progress-update-schemacs-formerly-gypsum--ramin-honary--answers.webm">Download --answers.webm (102MB)</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/schemacs-nav.md b/2025/info/schemacs-nav.md index 9c4b7a69..e867d2ef 100644 --- a/2025/info/schemacs-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/schemacs-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/org-babel">Making Org-Babel reactive</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/reference">Emacs as a fully-fledged reference manager</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track Development">Development</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/dev">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/bookclub-tapas">Bookclub tapas</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/juicemacs">Juicemacs: exploring speculative JIT compilation for ELisp in Java</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track Development">Development</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/sun-close-after.md b/2025/info/sun-close-after.md index aebbe6f8..e84ce984 100644 --- a/2025/info/sun-close-after.md +++ b/2025/info/sun-close-after.md @@ -1,7 +1,235 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-after-page --> -Questions or comments? Please e-mail [emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org](mailto:emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20sun-close%3A%20Sunday%20closing%20remarks) +<div class="transcript transcript-mainVideo"><a name="sun-close-mainVideo-transcript"></a><h1>Transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""screen. That screen. Yes. All right. Thank you so much.""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We have made it thus far. It is the end of EmacsConf 2025.""" start="00:00:17.280" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, I better remember to open this""" start="00:00:22.440" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in case anyone wants to join me in this room.""" start="00:00:24.360" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hang on a sec. And normally all this stuff""" start="00:00:49.460" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""gets done automatically by my scripts,""" start="00:00:51.140" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so I'm doing it manually. Ah, there you go.""" start="00:00:52.960" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, now people can join. Hooray, we made it!""" start="00:00:55.251" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Today was great, and yesterday was great too,""" start="00:00:58.126" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with so many fascinating talks and conversations.""" start="00:01:01.440" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm really, really glad that it all worked out,""" start="00:01:06.520" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""despite some running around""" start="00:01:09.600" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and figuring things out on the fly,""" start="00:01:12.160" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we all managed to get there.""" start="00:01:14.680" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I actually have some of the live""" start="00:01:18.560" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""talks recordings up already""" start="00:01:20.640" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on media.emacsconf.org and YouTube, assuming things work.""" start="00:01:22.960" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm just going to republish it from Emacs naturally.""" start="00:01:28.400" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""As you can see, I was e-debugging things""" start="00:01:33.320" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to the very last minute.""" start="00:01:36.360" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, feel free to spread the word.""" start="00:01:37.480" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I check the Emacs hashtag every week""" start="00:01:39.800" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as part of the Emacs news process anyway.""" start="00:01:42.520" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if you have any favorite talks,""" start="00:01:45.840" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's a great way to share the ideas with more people,""" start="00:01:47.840" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then even more conversations can happen.""" start="00:01:52.040" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The prerecorded talks, as I mentioned,""" start="00:01:54.560" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are already up on the wiki""" start="00:01:58.080" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and at the media emacsconf.org slash 2027 website.""" start="00:02:00.240" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sorry, 2025. We're not in the time machine. 2025 site.""" start="00:02:05.200" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And they should already be on YouTube as well.""" start="00:02:10.960" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I will upload the late submissions""" start="00:02:13.800" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the live talks and the Q&A sessions""" start="00:02:16.400" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""over the next week or two.""" start="00:02:19.000" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I usually get that done very quickly.""" start="00:02:20.440" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I didn't even finish this sentence.""" start="00:02:23.200" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll post an update to the Emacs Conf Discuss mailing list,""" start="00:02:27.520" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so feel free to subscribe to that if you'd like an update.""" start="00:02:31.080" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you've got ideas for making things better,""" start="00:02:34.480" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then feel free to drop them into the Etherpad""" start="00:02:37.560" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that we can make next year's conference even smoother.""" start="00:02:40.960" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I had a lot of people watching, so thank you for that.""" start="00:02:45.760" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And of course, thanks to all the speakers""" start="00:02:51.120" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""who put hours and hours into their presentations,""" start="00:02:53.720" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the volunteers who helped both before and during the conference""" start="00:02:56.360" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and who will help in the days ahead""" start="00:03:01.080" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as we get everything extracted and packaged and transcribed even,""" start="00:03:03.440" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and a nice chapter indices on the Q&A""" start="00:03:08.920" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so you can jump to when a specific question was answered,""" start="00:03:11.240" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""all that good stuff.""" start="00:03:14.400" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and to all those other people in their lives""" start="00:03:16.520" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""whose patience and support make all of this possible.""" start="00:03:19.800" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So thank you so much for that.""" start="00:03:23.480" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This year's host, you saw Corwin and you saw,""" start="00:03:26.920" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean, what's, why am I,""" start="00:03:30.200" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""wait, I'm like buzzing all over the place""" start="00:03:32.320" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as people are mentioning my nick on IRC.""" start="00:03:34.440" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, now that I'm in do not disturb mode.""" start="00:03:37.040" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So thank you to the hosts""" start="00:03:40.320" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template 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video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I don't have to worry about my computer stressing out.""" start="00:04:36.240" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's all good. 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I'm done.""" start="00:08:33.040" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think it's rather...""" start="00:08:49.360" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I like to think of it as the start of the conversation.""" start="00:08:54.880" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so we have around 100 people,""" start="00:08:59.680" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""more than 100, around 200 people yesterday,""" start="00:09:08.160" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""around 100 today joining us.""" start="00:09:12.640" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And those are a lot of conversations,""" start="00:09:15.000" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but then they're the conversations that happen""" start="00:09:17.000" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when people look up the videos and the captions""" start="00:09:18.640" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the resources that people have shared.""" start="00:09:22.400" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so I think it gives us a lot of material,""" start="00:09:25.400" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a lot of exciting points""" start="00:09:30.080" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for plenty of other conversations this year.""" start="00:09:31.680" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, it's a great community. Oh, yes, I should mention,""" start="00:09:34.360" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the conversation doesn't stop here""" start="00:09:41.120" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because there are mailing lists.""" start="00:09:42.800" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you, Rudy, for the reminder.""" start="00:09:44.400" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you're looking for more of this kind of sense of community,""" start="00:09:46.000" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there's like, well, Emacs Develop course has a lot of technical discussions going on,""" start="00:09:50.760" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but the Org Mode mailing list is very nice.""" start="00:09:56.880" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There are also lots of meetups.""" start="00:10:00.560" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's definitely a meetup every month.""" start="00:10:02.720" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Org Meetup, in fact, is happening in a couple of days.""" start="00:10:05.200" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you look on the Emacs wiki for user groups,""" start="00:10:10.640" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or you check my Emacs news,""" start="00:10:13.160" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or you check, if you look for like Emacs calendar,""" start="00:10:14.720" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which I think I put on like emacslife.com slash calendar,""" start="00:10:16.960" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then you'll find upcoming meetups.""" start="00:10:20.680" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that you can keep reconnecting with people.""" start="00:10:22.640" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And if you come up with something cool,""" start="00:10:27.000" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you don't have to wait until the next Emacs Con""" start="00:10:29.600" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to show it to everybody.""" start="00:10:33.760" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can also go to these meetups and start sharing it""" start="00:10:35.280" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and get feedback and make it even better and so on.""" start="00:10:43.080" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Great, thank you. Rudy says, the Emacs bugs mailing list""" start="00:10:53.320" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is surprisingly interesting as well.""" start="00:10:56.400" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Lots of discussion on there, various details""" start="00:10:58.600" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and upcoming little features every single day.""" start="00:11:01.440" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh yes, Maddie would like another shout out for Emacs Carnival""" start="00:11:04.160" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is a monthly blogging people share topics""" start="00:11:38.000" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that people can all write about the same thing""" start="00:11:41.320" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then discover other people's perspectives on it.""" start="00:11:47.000" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There have been quite a few now.""" start="00:11:52.440" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if you want, you can go through the Emacs Carnival page""" start="00:11:54.840" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in the Emacs wiki and start exploring the past issues.""" start="00:11:57.760" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The host will have a list of links""" start="00:12:01.240" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to the people who've submitted. So it's a great way to see""" start="00:12:04.040" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what other people in the community""" start="00:12:07.080" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""have been thinking about something.""" start="00:12:09.920" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Also, people are very curious about the fonts and templates""" start="00:12:11.360" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that people use for their presentations.""" start="00:12:18.280" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's always, that's one of the things""" start="00:12:20.600" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I love about presentations.""" start="00:12:22.600" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You kind of get this, you pick up so much more""" start="00:12:23.960" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when you're looking over someone's shoulder,""" start="00:12:26.360" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the things that they would forget to even mention""" start="00:12:28.600" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it's not the point of their talk""" start="00:12:32.080" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or they take it for granted.""" start="00:12:34.200" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So, yes. if the presenters can share their fonts""" start="00:12:36.840" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and setups and themes and stuff like that.""" start="00:12:40.520" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Or if you as a viewer have been watching something""" start="00:12:44.480" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you see someone do this really cool keyword shortcut""" start="00:12:47.280" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you have no idea how they did that,""" start="00:12:50.640" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because of course, you know, it just flies by too quickly""" start="00:12:53.280" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it's part of their muscle memory,""" start="00:12:56.120" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so they don't even explain it anymore.""" start="00:12:57.640" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Go ahead and ask the speakers, hey,""" start="00:12:59.240" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that command that you did, that just did the magic, how?""" start="00:13:01.800" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yes, please feel free to go back over the videos,""" start="00:13:05.800" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""look at them slowly,""" start="00:13:11.760" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""look for interesting things you want to learn more about.""" start="00:13:12.680" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, it sounds like we are""" start="00:13:45.080" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""pretty much ready to wrap up.""" start="00:13:49.160" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So thank you, everyone, for coming.""" start="00:13:53.240" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""See you next year and also in the months in between""" start="00:13:59.000" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because there are meetups,""" start="00:14:01.520" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which you're going to go check out and have fun at.""" start="00:14:02.480" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you for this.""" start="00:14:04.040" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, thank you for this nice Emacs weekend.""" start="00:14:05.880" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thanks for putting it all together, Sacha and everyone.""" start="00:14:07.920" video="mainVideo-sun-close" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's great. 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transform="rotate(-90)"> weights</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/completion" title="corfu+yasnippet: Easier than I thought" data-slug="completion"> <title> 11:05-11:25 corfu+yasnippet: Easier than I thought</title> <rect x="171" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="27" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(196,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> completion</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/zettelkasten" title="Zettelkasten for regular Emacs hackers" data-slug="zettelkasten"> <title> 1:00- 1:25 Zettelkasten for regular Emacs hackers</title> <rect x="329" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="34" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(361,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> zettelkasten</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/hyperboleqa" title="Questions and answers to help you fly with Hyperbole" data-slug="hyperboleqa"> <title> 1:45- 2:15 Questions and answers to help you fly with Hyperbole</title> <rect x="391" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="41" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(430,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> hyperboleqa</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/gardening" title="Gardening in Emacs: A Windows user's tale of tending, tweaking, and triumph" data-slug="gardening"> <title> 2:15- 2:35 Gardening in Emacs: A Windows user's tale of tending, tweaking, and triumph</title> <rect x="432" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="27" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(457,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> gardening</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/bookclub-tapas" title="Bookclub tapas" data-slug="bookclub-tapas"> <title> 2:45- 3:20 Bookclub tapas</title> <rect x="473" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="48" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(519,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> bookclub-tapas</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/sun-close" title="Sunday closing remarks" data-slug="sun-close"> <title> 3:40- 3:50 Sunday closing remarks</title> <rect stroke-width="3" x="549" y="15" opacity="0.8" width="13" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(560,73)"> <text font-weight="bold" fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> sun-close</text></g></a> <g transform="translate(0,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 9 AM</text></g> <g transform="translate(82,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 10 AM</text></g> <g transform="translate(164,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 11 AM</text></g> <g transform="translate(247,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 12 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(329,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 1 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(411,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 2 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(494,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 3 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(576,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 4 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(658,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 5 PM</text></g></svg> -</div> - [[!toc ]] -Format: 10-min talk ; Q&A: BigBlueButton conference room <https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-sun-close.html> Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sun-close> +Format: 16-min talk ; Q&A: BigBlueButton conference room Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sun-close> Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sun-close> -Discuss on IRC: [#emacsconf-gen](https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-gen) -Status: Q&A open for participation -<div>Times in different time zones:</div><div class="times" start="2025-12-07T20:40:00Z" end="2025-12-07T20:50:00Z"><div class="conf-time">Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~3:40 PM - 3:50 PM EST (US/Eastern)</div><div class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~2:40 PM - 2:50 PM CST (US/Central)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~1:40 PM - 1:50 PM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~12:40 PM - 12:50 PM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~8:40 PM - 8:50 PM UTC <br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~9:40 PM - 9:50 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~10:40 PM - 10:50 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~2:10 AM - 2:20 AM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~4:40 AM - 4:50 AM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~5:40 AM - 5:50 AM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><strong><a href="/2025/watch/gen/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></strong></div> +Status: TO_REVIEW_QA + -<div class="vid mainVideo"><div></div><div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sun-close">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-sun-close.html">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-close--sunday-closing-remarks--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-close--sunday-closing-remarks--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li></ul></div></div> +<div class="vid mainVideo"><video controls preload="none" id="mainVideo-sun-close"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-close--sunday-closing-remarks--original.m4v" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-sun-close--sunday-closing-remarks--main.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div></div>Duration: 15:33 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sun-close">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-close--sunday-closing-remarks--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-close--sunday-closing-remarks--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-close--sunday-closing-remarks--main.m4v">Download --main.m4v (53MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-close--sunday-closing-remarks--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-close--sunday-closing-remarks--original.json">Download --original.json</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-close--sunday-closing-remarks--original.m4v">Download --original.m4v (49MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-close--sunday-closing-remarks--original.tsv">Download --original.tsv</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-close--sunday-closing-remarks--original.txt">Download --original.txt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-close--sunday-closing-remarks--original.vtt">Download --original.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/NsQLN-A5gTo">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/sun-close-nav.md b/2025/info/sun-close-nav.md index 6c9590ba..718dbf69 100644 --- a/2025/info/sun-close-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/sun-close-nav.md @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/bookclub-tapas">Bookclub tapas</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/sat-close">Saturday closing remarks / open session</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/sun-open-before.md b/2025/info/sun-open-before.md index 288e7cf8..ad99d4e0 100644 --- a/2025/info/sun-open-before.md +++ b/2025/info/sun-open-before.md @@ -1,15 +1,9 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sun 2025-12-07. Solid lines show talks with Q&A via BigBlueButton. Dashed lines show talks with Q&A via IRC or Etherpad.<div class="schedule-in-context schedule-svg-container" data-slug="sun-open"> -<svg width="700" height="150" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"> <title> Schedule for Sunday</title> <rect width="700" height="150" x="0" y="0" fill="white"></rect> <text font-size="10" fill="black" y="12" x="3"> Sunday</text> <a href="/2025/talks/sun-open" title="Sunday opening remarks" data-slug="sun-open"> <title> 9:00- 9:10 Sunday opening remarks</title> <rect stroke-width="3" x="0" y="15" opacity="0.8" width="13" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(11,73)"> <text font-weight="bold" fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> sun-open</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/modern" title="Some problems of modernizing Emacs" data-slug="modern"> <title> 9:10- 9:30 Some problems of modernizing Emacs</title> <rect x="13" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="27" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(38,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> modern</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/reader" title="An introduction to the Emacs Reader" data-slug="reader"> <title> 9:40-10:15 An introduction to the Emacs Reader</title> <rect x="54" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="48" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(100,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> reader</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/weights" title="Weightlifting tracking with Emacs on Android" data-slug="weights"> <title> 10:35-10:45 Weightlifting tracking with Emacs on Android</title> <rect x="130" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="13" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(141,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> weights</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/completion" title="corfu+yasnippet: Easier than I thought" data-slug="completion"> <title> 11:05-11:25 corfu+yasnippet: Easier than I thought</title> <rect x="171" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="27" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(196,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> completion</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/zettelkasten" title="Zettelkasten for regular Emacs hackers" data-slug="zettelkasten"> <title> 1:00- 1:25 Zettelkasten for regular Emacs hackers</title> <rect x="329" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="34" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(361,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> zettelkasten</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/hyperboleqa" title="Questions and answers to help you fly with Hyperbole" data-slug="hyperboleqa"> <title> 1:45- 2:15 Questions and answers to help you fly with Hyperbole</title> <rect x="391" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="41" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(430,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> hyperboleqa</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/gardening" title="Gardening in Emacs: A Windows user's tale of tending, tweaking, and triumph" data-slug="gardening"> <title> 2:15- 2:35 Gardening in Emacs: A Windows user's tale of tending, tweaking, and triumph</title> <rect x="432" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="27" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="5,5,5" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(457,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> gardening</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/bookclub-tapas" title="Bookclub tapas" data-slug="bookclub-tapas"> <title> 2:45- 3:20 Bookclub tapas</title> <rect x="473" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="48" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(519,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> bookclub-tapas</text></g></a> <a href="/2025/talks/sun-close" title="Sunday closing remarks" data-slug="sun-close"> <title> 3:40- 3:50 Sunday closing remarks</title> <rect x="549" y="15" opacity="0.5" width="13" height="59" stroke="black" stroke-dasharray="" fill="peachpuff"></rect> <g transform="translate(560,73)"> <text fill="black" x="0" y="0" font-size="10" transform="rotate(-90)"> sun-close</text></g></a> <g transform="translate(0,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 9 AM</text></g> <g transform="translate(82,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 10 AM</text></g> <g transform="translate(164,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 11 AM</text></g> <g transform="translate(247,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 12 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(329,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 1 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(411,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 2 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(494,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 3 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(576,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 4 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(658,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 5 PM</text></g></svg> -</div> - [[!toc ]] -Format: 5-min talk ; Q&A: Etherpad <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sun-open> +Format: 5-min talk ; Q&A: Etherpad Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sun-open> -Discuss on IRC: [#emacsconf-gen](https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-gen) -Status: Q&A open for participation -<div>Times in different time zones:</div><div class="times" start="2025-12-07T14:00:00Z" end="2025-12-07T14:10:00Z"><div class="conf-time">Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~9:00 AM - 9:10 AM EST (US/Eastern)</div><div class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~8:00 AM - 8:10 AM CST (US/Central)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~7:00 AM - 7:10 AM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~6:00 AM - 6:10 AM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~2:00 PM - 2:10 PM UTC <br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~3:00 PM - 3:10 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~4:00 PM - 4:10 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~7:30 PM - 7:40 PM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~10:00 PM - 10:10 PM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~11:00 PM - 11:10 PM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><strong><a href="/2025/watch/gen/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></strong></div> +Status: Q&A finished, IRC and pad will be archived on this page + @@ -29,6 +23,6 @@ Status: Q&A open for participation 04:16.020 Videos 04:26.776 Let's get started! -"""]]<div></div>Duration: 04:51 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sun-open">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sun-open">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-open--sunday-opening-remarks--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-open--sunday-opening-remarks--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-open--sunday-opening-remarks--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-open--sunday-opening-remarks--main.opus">Download --main.opus (2.5MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-open--sunday-opening-remarks--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-open--sunday-opening-remarks--main.webm">Download --main.webm (15MB)</a></li></ul></div></div> +"""]]<div></div>Duration: 04:51 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-sun-open">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-open--sunday-opening-remarks--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-open--sunday-opening-remarks--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-open--sunday-opening-remarks--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-open--sunday-opening-remarks--main.opus">Download --main.opus (2.5MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-open--sunday-opening-remarks--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-sun-open--sunday-opening-remarks--main.webm">Download --main.webm (15MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/0B9lsD8Z_6M">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/sun-open-nav.md b/2025/info/sun-open-nav.md index 32ce1916..2f6390d4 100644 --- a/2025/info/sun-open-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/sun-open-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/sat-close">Saturday closing remarks / open session</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/modern">Some problems of modernizing Emacs</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/open-mic">Open session</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/modern">Some problems of modernizing Emacs</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/swanky-before.md b/2025/info/swanky-before.md index a374e6d9..c10e2605 100644 --- a/2025/info/swanky-before.md +++ b/2025/info/swanky-before.md @@ -1,14 +1,8 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-before-page --> - -The following image shows where the talk is in the schedule for Sat 2025-12-06. 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to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/juicemacs">Juicemacs: exploring speculative JIT compilation for ELisp in Java</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/gnus">Reading and writing emails in GNU Emacs with Gnus</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track Development">Development</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/dev">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/juicemacs">Juicemacs: exploring speculative JIT compilation for ELisp in Java</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/python">Interactive Python programming in Emacs</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track Development">Development</span> </div> diff --git a/2025/info/weights-after.md b/2025/info/weights-after.md index d2f9ed7d..d8714c35 100644 --- a/2025/info/weights-after.md +++ b/2025/info/weights-after.md @@ -1,7 +1,567 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-after-page --> -Questions or comments? Please e-mail [zacromero@posteo.com](mailto:zacromero@posteo.com?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20weights%3A%20Weightlifting%20tracking%20with%20Emacs%20on%20Android) +<div class="transcript transcript-mainVideo"><a name="weights-mainVideo-transcript"></a><h1>Transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""And you're ready to go. All right, perfect.""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hello, my name is Zachary Romero""" start="00:00:05.820" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and today I'll be giving a talk""" start="00:00:07.876" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on how I'm using Emacs for Android""" start="00:00:08.880" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to replace my fitness app I normally use.""" start="00:00:12.720" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So it goes without saying""" start="00:00:15.400" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that a lot of the mobile ecosystem these days""" start="00:00:17.240" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""are pretty hostile to the interest of its users.""" start="00:00:21.560" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So there's privacy policies""" start="00:00:25.440" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that are constantly collecting your data and selling it.""" start="00:00:27.000" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""without your consent, bombardment of ads.""" start="00:00:32.960" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then there's a lot of features that are locked.""" start="00:00:36.400" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sometimes features that the app gives you,""" start="00:00:38.000" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""they're put behind paywalls.""" start="00:00:40.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so a lot of the ecosystem""" start="00:00:42.960" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""isn't in the best interest of users.""" start="00:00:45.160" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And obviously there are apps like on F-Droid""" start="00:00:49.120" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the Android ecosystem that do try to address this,""" start="00:00:51.960" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but the solutions overall are lagging""" start="00:00:56.800" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""behind maybe desktop computers.""" start="00:00:59.160" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""One option that has come in the past few years""" start="00:01:05.440" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is Emacs on Android. It's just a normal Emacs build,""" start="00:01:14.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and so it can do everything, in theory, that Emacs can do.""" start="00:01:17.240" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so I got to thinking how could I, how I could use Emacs""" start="00:01:21.160" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to replace some of the proprietary apps""" start="00:01:24.400" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I use on a daily basis.""" start="00:01:27.040" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I just went thinking about the apps,""" start="00:01:28.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the apps that Emacs can replace.""" start="00:01:31.280" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Some of them seem quite easy.""" start="00:01:33.040" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Some of them... maybe might take a little effort but seem doable""" start="00:01:35.120" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then obviously there's a whole class of apps""" start="00:01:39.880" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that would be pretty impossible to emulate on Emacs.""" start="00:01:41.960" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I mean besides like to-do lists, note taking, org mode,""" start="00:01:47.200" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""one thing that came to mind was my fitness tracking app.""" start="00:01:52.680" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is an app I use pretty often""" start="00:01:55.760" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and in theory Emacs should be quite usable for this case.""" start="00:01:59.240" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template 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+[[!template text="""And so you want a detailed plan""" start="00:02:34.080" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and recording of what you do throughout the week.""" start="00:02:37.440" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so I guess way back, normally""" start="00:02:40.440" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this would have been done on pen and paper.""" start="00:02:43.920" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you would take your notebook""" start="00:02:45.920" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and just write down on paper what you did.""" start="00:02:48.080" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And this obviously works, and a lot of people do do this.""" start="00:02:51.000" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But these days, there are quite a few apps""" start="00:02:56.560" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that make this process quite seamless and effortless.""" start="00:02:59.800" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So just as an example, really fast.""" start="00:03:02.640" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So this is one of the popular apps out these days""" start="00:03:06.280" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that has such a feature.""" start="00:03:09.040" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you can save all your workout routines""" start="00:03:10.400" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and this nice interface.""" start="00:03:13.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so you click a button and then it starts,""" start="00:03:14.320" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you have the workout interface and then""" 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id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then also like maybe you failed""" start="00:04:17.680" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""maybe you weren't able to like perform this""" start="00:04:19.920" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and maybe you have to make a note that so like""" start="00:04:22.240" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that's even more text editing you would have to do""" start="00:04:24.280" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""um also some things like unit conversions""" start="00:04:28.280" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like you could use calc""" start="00:04:30.960" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but then you know you'd have to like open up the calc,""" start="00:04:31.800" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then number, unit conversion, switch buffers.""" 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start="00:04:53.720" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So writing some Elisp, I created a package""" start="00:04:58.400" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to try to emulate that experience""" start="00:05:02.560" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I showed you on that other app.""" start="00:05:04.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So let me just demo this real fast.""" start="00:05:06.080" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So here, the package is called org-fit.""" start="00:05:08.160" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so here, I'm going to start a new workout.""" start="00:05:13.680" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then here, I'm prompted by a list of routines""" start="00:05:17.360" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I have pre-written 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+[[!template text="""So here, let's fill it in, go to the next one.""" start="00:06:54.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And now the rest timer is set for three minutes.""" start="00:06:58.280" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so here I have, I can just rest""" start="00:07:00.640" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I just have the information right here.""" start="00:07:03.080" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Also, you'll notice here we have""" start="00:07:05.880" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""some calculations at the bottom.""" start="00:07:08.120" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is something also that those apps provide,""" start="00:07:09.440" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like in order to make sure you're tracking""" start="00:07:12.160" 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start="00:09:43.520" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It will vibrate.""" start="00:09:46.840" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it might make a really loud noise if you want it to.""" start="00:09:47.880" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so this is all customizable.""" start="00:09:50.080" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And the cool thing is that if you have other packages""" start="00:09:51.920" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that utilize these notifications,""" start="00:09:54.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""all of the notification groups,""" start="00:09:55.640" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""they're all customizable separately. So, and there we go.""" start="00:09:57.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that notification you see on the top""" start="00:10:01.080" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is actually from the Emacs app.""" start="00:10:02.360" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you notice here, we're not even running Emacs""" start="00:10:05.000" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and yet we got that rest timer is over.""" start="00:10:07.400" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's one thing. Next, keyboard.""" start="00:10:09.760" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So just when working with Emacs,""" start="00:10:13.560" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I found using the unexpected keyboard, in particular,""" start="00:10:15.040" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to be really helpful with all the keybinding.""" start="00:10:19.080" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if you just want to try out Emacs""" start="00:10:22.520" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""from F-Droid or something,""" start="00:10:25.880" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I would recommend using a keyboard like this""" start="00:10:27.720" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to let you use the meta keys and the control keys.""" start="00:10:30.240" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then yeah, using this keyboard,""" start="00:10:34.000" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I haven't really noticed any problems""" start="00:10:37.040" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with Emacs key bindings.""" start="00:10:39.160" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then lastly, just like my setup.""" start="00:10:41.680" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So SyncThinkFork is another app I rely on heavily.""" start="00:10:45.160" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So as I mentioned, all the, this is org-fit files,""" start="00:10:49.680" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""they're all org-mode files.""" start="00:10:54.400" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I use SyncThinkFork to synchronize them""" start="00:10:55.720" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""between my laptop and my Android.""" start="00:10:57.440" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then also like to get this package,""" start="00:10:59.880" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just syncing a list folder might be helpful""" start="00:11:04.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you want to easily edit your init file""" start="00:11:06.560" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on Android on your machine.""" start="00:11:10.000" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yeah, SyncThinkPort is another helpful thing""" start="00:11:12.320" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you might wanna look into""" start="00:11:15.640" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you're exploring Android, the Emacs build of Android.""" start="00:11:17.960" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yeah, Emacs on Android does actually have the potential""" start="00:11:22.920" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to replace a decent number of common use cases.""" start="00:11:26.240" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And org mode can be a solid foundation""" start="00:11:30.960" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for any of these applications that you're thinking of.""" start="00:11:35.760" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And yeah, I highly recommend giving giving Emacs on Android a shot.""" start="00:11:39.960" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And that concludes this presentation.""" start="00:11:45.640" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you so much, Zachary. 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It's just there, that copy.""" start="00:24:00.720" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And so that works pretty well.""" start="00:24:06.360" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I also found that editing code in general,""" start="00:24:09.600" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think this also goes""" start="00:24:13.560" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with the development experience question.""" start="00:24:15.360" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I'm curious about the development experience.""" start="00:24:19.920" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Do you do everything on the phone? And that's the thing.""" start="00:24:22.640" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""None of my development in general is done on the phone.""" start="00:24:24.640" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just because, for one, my muscle memory isn't there,""" start="00:24:27.120" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and two, just in general, typing on a virtual keyboard on the phone,""" start="00:24:32.440" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's just really slow.""" start="00:24:38.400" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yeah, all the development is done on my machine,""" start="00:24:40.120" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but then there's the problem of you have to have an init.l in your Android,""" start="00:24:47.160" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and so you're going to have to write, you know,""" start="00:24:52.120" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I found like you'd have to like,""" start="00:24:55.160" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when you first get Emacs set up,""" start="00:24:56.920" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you might have to like write some, I don't know,""" start="00:24:58.280" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like you'll kind of have to like get into your init file""" start="00:25:01.240" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then just like,""" start="00:25:03.960" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""maybe just like start to put things together.""" start="00:25:04.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But the cool thing is with SyncThinkFork,""" start="00:25:07.000" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm syncing my, I'm setting it to load off of a sync directory.""" start="00:25:09.760" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like this, this init file,""" start="00:25:15.520" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""my Android file is synced with my machine.""" start="00:25:18.560" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if I wanted to, I could just edit it on my machine""" start="00:25:21.160" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and just have that synced automatically.""" start="00:25:24.320" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that makes like the whole, like in it,""" start="00:25:25.880" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""cause like it's, it's such a, like, that is one of the,""" start="00:25:28.840" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's just like getting,""" start="00:25:31.880" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""sit writing your init L and M in Emacs on Android""" start="00:25:33.080" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is just kind of a.""" start="00:25:36.880" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We do have one more question.""" start="00:25:37.840" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can't help but throw in a comment there.""" start="00:25:39.360" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think that's like.""" start="00:25:41.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's an extremely good tip, right?""" start="00:25:43.760" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That if we're, as we're exploring Android,""" start="00:25:47.520" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""we want to think about that as""" start="00:25:49.960" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template 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id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where a touch interface might be helpful.""" start="00:26:36.600" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't know if I can easily pull it up,""" start="00:26:38.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but the app itself, oh yeah, here it is.""" start="00:26:41.560" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you can see kind of how they have,""" start="00:26:47.200" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you can kind of see how this fits.""" start="00:26:50.200" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is like an org, you can see""" start="00:26:53.280" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that these are just tables, right?""" start="00:26:55.120" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is just like this whole interface in general,""" start="00:26:57.400" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just like kind of screams like an org mode,""" start="00:26:59.240" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""file with you have you have your different headings""" start="00:27:02.280" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like here's a warm-up heading""" start="00:27:05.120" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then you have the tables""" start="00:27:06.560" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you know you could just like envision""" start="00:27:07.840" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how you could have a org table""" start="00:27:09.880" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with one of the columns called time""" start="00:27:12.840" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then you could just imagine like there'd be a button there""" start="00:27:15.040" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you can just just have it click,""" start="00:27:18.440" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then you'd have a timer in the background""" start="00:27:21.160" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that would update this timer.""" start="00:27:24.280" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's so, I mean, conceptually, there's nothing really,""" start="00:27:25.800" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it conceptually maps really well to this.""" start="00:27:32.600" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yeah, I mean, that's definitely something.""" start="00:27:35.800" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's awesome. Great answer.""" start="00:27:41.560" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I think we're just at about 90 seconds left.""" start="00:27:44.440" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Perfect amount of time, I think, to just wrap up.""" start="00:27:47.760" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Closing thoughts. I'll share mine first.""" start="00:27:50.120" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Really appreciate you, Zach.""" start="00:27:52.200" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you for putting this talk together.""" start="00:27:53.760" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think this is the type of talk""" start="00:27:56.640" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's really going to tie the room together""" start="00:27:59.360" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for people that may be, you know, not sure how they can take""" start="00:28:01.240" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""although they've been interested in that,""" start="00:28:07.560" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this can be a really good way to kind of open up the world.""" start="00:28:12.720" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you. Thank you for putting it together.""" start="00:28:16.400" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would just say""" start="00:28:20.320" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like definitely just try things out.""" start="00:28:22.440" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like if you think, you know,""" start="00:28:24.160" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""they're just like random ideas,""" start="00:28:25.360" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like a book tracking app or like a recipe app,""" start="00:28:26.440" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like, you know, there's a lot of things""" start="00:28:30.320" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you do on your mobile device""" start="00:28:33.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that aren't like banking apps that you could easily,""" start="00:28:35.600" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that seem like they could be done in Emacs.""" start="00:28:37.720" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yeah, just try different things out""" start="00:28:39.760" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I would love to hear what other people do. Bravo.""" start="00:28:42.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I appreciate it once again, you're coming together""" start="00:28:47.240" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and especially you're doing it live.""" start="00:28:52.520" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I know that as a conference, we have a lot of preference""" start="00:28:56.640" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for those recorded talks""" start="00:29:00.080" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and getting the captioning together,""" start="00:29:01.480" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I just have a special place in my heart""" start="00:29:02.760" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for the energy that comes with a live talk""" start="00:29:05.320" video="mainVideo-weights" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I appreciate you doing it. 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Please e-mail [hi@christiantietze.de](mailto:hi@christiantietze.de?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20zettelkasten%3A%20Zettelkasten%20for%20regular%20Emacs%20hackers) +<div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="zettelkasten-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> + +[[!template text="""Yes. All right. Take it away. Thank you, Christian. Thank you, too.""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you could have the pad open at the same time,""" start="00:00:07.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can read the questions.""" start="00:00:09.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Or I can start reading some to you while I'm here.""" start="00:00:11.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, no. I can read them.""" start="00:00:13.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I was wondering whether I should maybe copy them into a new buffer.""" start="00:00:14.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So they are also on screen. Increase the font size a bit.""" start="00:00:21.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I'm trying to do this on the fly.""" start="00:00:30.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Maybe a bad idea. Let's see.""" start="00:00:39.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Of course, you're going to capture it""" start="00:00:41.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""into your Zettelkasten then. Is that what's happening?""" start="00:00:42.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well, I can start you off.""" start="00:00:45.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The first question is, I wonder what they use for the fancy animations.""" start="00:00:49.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I was thinking about this because that's the first question""" start="00:00:56.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I was thinking about this""" start="00:00:59.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""while I copied this stuff over.""" start="00:01:00.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What part is the fancy part?""" start="00:01:02.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can recommend books, like if anyone wants to have book recommendations""" start="00:01:09.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for how to make presentations with PowerPoint-like software""" start="00:01:13.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in a very simple way, we taught this at university.""" start="00:01:18.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""was it now, some 15 years ago,""" start="00:01:23.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to students to make animation abuse""" start="00:01:25.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where everything was flashy and typed in or something.""" start="00:01:28.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Don't do this, but instead do a couple of very simple tasteful things""" start="00:01:32.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like fading through colors like filmmakers do, right?""" start="00:01:36.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Fading through black to make a scene cut""" start="00:01:41.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or just fade between things, the fanciness.""" start="00:01:44.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Presentation software stack, the fanciness.""" start="00:01:47.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I didn't dial fanciness up,""" start="00:01:53.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I just resorted to a very simple fade animations,""" start="00:01:55.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like fading stuff in and wipe, I think, for text effects.""" start="00:02:00.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That was it, more or less.""" start="00:02:04.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And for the lines, maybe the lines are fancy.""" start="00:02:06.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I was using Apple Keynote because I'm fastest with that,""" start="00:02:09.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I also usually, we taught this workshop with PowerPoint""" start="00:02:14.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I think the LibreOffice stack got much better with that""" start="00:02:19.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as well in the recent years,""" start="00:02:23.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I haven't tried that in a long time""" start="00:02:24.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to like fiddle around and find all the knobs to dial.""" start="00:02:26.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Because the Apple presentation thingy has this nice feature""" start="00:02:31.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where you draw an arrow with a tip,""" start="00:02:34.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then you have a special animation for line drawing,""" start="00:02:37.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is only available for line art.""" start="00:02:41.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then it draws the arrow that moves around like that.""" start="00:02:42.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yeah, presentation stack, Apple Keynote,""" start="00:02:45.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""probably not of interest for anyone here.""" start="00:02:48.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I usually don't use plain text presentation stuff, right?""" start="00:02:52.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I tried this, I tried this with markdown presentations,""" start="00:02:56.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""slidey things, org presentation.""" start="00:03:03.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's always not enough control for the fiddly things""" start="00:03:08.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I'm interested in to make the experience great.""" start="00:03:12.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I wonder what are the fancy animations.""" start="00:03:17.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And the stack, the stack is Apple Keynote, sorry.""" start="00:03:20.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, that's enough. Thank you for capturing.""" start="00:03:25.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Are you not a fan? Okay. You saw this in the recording.""" start="00:03:30.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Why on earth is autofill mode not enabled? I don't know.""" start="00:03:37.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I thought it is the default, but apparently it isn't.""" start="00:03:43.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I could also use visual line mode.""" start="00:03:48.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's built in as well, right? Visual line mode.""" start="00:03:52.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's so weird to be in this vanilla setup""" start="00:03:55.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and not have all my key bindings""" start="00:03:58.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and my normal stuff ready, so.""" start="00:04:00.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I am not a fan of using asterisk headings in org mode.""" start="00:04:04.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's interesting to see how people have different styles of writing org content.""" start="00:04:08.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Am I not? What exactly? What did I do?""" start="00:04:12.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And nodes, just open one of these.""" start="00:04:22.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay. I could see how you could, in examples like this,""" start="00:04:25.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""use org-mode to read-only.""" start="00:04:33.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Why? How you could use org-mode to use headings for this,""" start="00:04:36.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because it's an outliner first and foremost,""" start="00:04:44.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so outlining is very natural.""" start="00:04:48.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But when I do in my personal setup,""" start="00:04:50.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I also have this what's called start indentation thingy.""" start="00:04:53.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""enabled, so that means that everything""" start="00:04:58.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""would be indented one level from the start.""" start="00:05:01.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I would probably fiddle around""" start="00:05:04.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with that to not get like crazy.""" start="00:05:05.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But also, I don't see, I don't see,""" start="00:05:07.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like really see when I look at this,""" start="00:05:12.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I didn't see a potential to create subheadings,""" start="00:05:13.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean, or even headings.""" start="00:05:17.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The only heading here is the title,""" start="00:05:19.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like in my perception of this node,""" start="00:05:21.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it's one, It's two lists.""" start="00:05:24.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You could group these in headings.""" start="00:05:27.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I didn't. That's right. Where's another one?""" start="00:05:28.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I opened the autosave file because I'm stupid.""" start="00:05:40.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""OK. So this one could also be probably subdivided.""" start="00:05:42.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I'm also not sure.""" start="00:05:46.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm also not sure if I would gain anything structurally""" start="00:05:48.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if I do it like this because then I'm in a structural level""" start="00:05:52.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the stuff that just flows naturally""" start="00:05:55.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as a sequence of text paragraphs,""" start="00:05:58.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this here, it's not disconnected.""" start="00:06:01.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It wasn't meant to be under organism""" start="00:06:07.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and I need to create a new same level thing""" start="00:06:10.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to say, hey, these are, I don't know, details or whatever.""" start="00:06:16.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So that's maybe the real reason.""" start="00:06:23.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm fine with writing snippets that are self-contained""" start="00:06:26.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and essentially one or two or three or five or whatever,""" start="00:06:28.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how many paragraphs,""" start="00:06:31.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it's not like, it's always an outline form.""" start="00:06:32.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I don't resort to this.""" start="00:06:36.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""My onSettle custom is usually written in Markdown.""" start="00:06:38.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I use subheadings for actual headings""" start="00:06:41.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to subdivide like I would subdivide an essay""" start="00:06:44.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or an article, blog post.""" start="00:06:47.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But that's the mode of writing that I'm in here.""" start="00:06:49.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's like blog post writing.""" start="00:06:52.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I wouldn't start with four headings for this.""" start="00:06:54.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I'm not doing that. That's a thing.""" start="00:06:56.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, I guess I'm going to read the questions,""" start="00:06:58.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I'm going to stop copying them in because I lose time.""" start="00:07:04.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I want to reply to you, folks.""" start="00:07:07.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Didn't see a need for a rack constructor.""" start="00:07:09.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you for capturing this. Next question.""" start="00:07:11.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Can you use org files and all its features inside Denote?""" start="00:07:13.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Can you use org files and all its features inside Denote?""" start="00:07:13.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes. Like this is, this is an org file""" start="00:07:17.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and Denote uses org headings instead of,""" start="00:07:22.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with Markdown, you get YAML front meta.""" start="00:07:25.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And with org, you get these attributes,""" start="00:07:28.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""value attribute thingies""" start="00:07:32.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that are then the metadata for the node.""" start="00:07:36.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So yeah, the answer is yes. You get everything and on top,""" start="00:07:40.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a small layer of a link, link management.""" start="00:07:45.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's all there is.""" start="00:07:48.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Where or how do you like to capture fleeting notes?""" start="00:07:49.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Next question is, where or how do you like to capture fleeting notes?""" start="00:07:49.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, fleeting notes. If you say fleeting notes,""" start="00:07:55.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you also need to say non-fleeting notes""" start="00:07:58.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and figure out what these are.""" start="00:08:01.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And when you say non-fleeting notes,""" start="00:08:02.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and fleeting notes exist, because it's a distinction,""" start="00:08:05.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and there's something on both sides of this distinction.""" start="00:08:07.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you say there's a distinction, there are two sides,""" start="00:08:10.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""maybe you want to subdivide the non-fleeting notes further,""" start="00:08:12.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because, well, it's a non-fleeting note""" start="00:08:14.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""isn't very descriptive. 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id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Zettelkasten feels like a very cagey approach""" start="00:11:29.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to note-taking and knowledge management.""" start="00:11:32.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Doesn't it restrict one to think in certain ways""" start="00:11:34.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""rather than what feels natural to someone?""" start="00:11:36.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Well, yes, but so does wearing underwear, right?""" start="00:11:38.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""A bit of personal revelation.""" start="00:11:45.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""When I'm working from home, I'm wearing pants.""" start="00:11:50.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You don't see them, but I don't need to.""" start="00:11:54.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I'm also kind of self-restricting myself in a way""" start="00:11:57.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because there's a window,""" start="00:12:00.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's dark outside, and I'm well lit.""" start="00:12:01.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And if I just stand up and have no pants on,""" start="00:12:03.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't care that much what the neighbors like 10, 20 meters across think.""" start="00:12:05.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""your mileage may vary then, right?""" start="00:12:12.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So there are restrictions that make sense""" start="00:12:15.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to get to some point in your day-to-day life.""" start="00:12:18.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And in the case of Zettelkasten,""" start="00:12:24.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I try to tell people the shortest story possible""" start="00:12:26.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to convey a story there, but also not to cage them in""" start="00:12:31.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with 20 definitions of different notes.""" start="00:12:36.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Because all that matters is try to move your thinking""" start="00:12:38.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""into an environment where you can write,""" start="00:12:42.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where you feel comfortable writing,""" 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id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I didn't do something with it.""" start="00:13:06.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean, I was reading the book probably on a commute back then, on the train.""" start="00:13:10.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I didn't take notes on the computer right away.""" start="00:13:15.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So if you feel caged in,""" start="00:13:18.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that may be a sign that you went too far on the,""" start="00:13:20.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I need to do this, I need to do that stage,""" start="00:13:24.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and lose some of the playfulness.""" start="00:13:26.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There needs to be 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Oh, combine the forums.""" start="00:14:46.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like it's a Zettelkasten anonymous group there.""" start="00:14:51.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like everyone's struggling.""" start="00:14:54.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Everyone's struggling and it's okay to like,""" start="00:14:56.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm feeling like stuck at this and that.""" start="00:14:58.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then other people will be able to relate.""" start="00:15:01.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can promise. How does it denote, question mark maybe,""" start="00:15:03.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""compared to org-roam?""" start="00:15:10.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Roam research was setting a new trend of connectiveness""" start="00:15:11.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because you could create recursive structures with links""" start="00:15:18.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and everything is linkable.""" start="00:15:21.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And it's like you put every sentence in its own org heading""" start="00:15:22.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then link to all the headings possibly""" start="00:15:25.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then transpile them so you can expand in place""" start="00:15:27.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where you would link to.""" start="00:15:31.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think this was the approach at least.""" start="00:15:32.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So this was a very interesting transclusion, not transpile.""" start="00:15:34.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Transclude the contents, like move them in right then and there""" start="00:15:38.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and not navigate to another page. 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Like this kind of personal stuff.""" start="00:16:47.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's too much of the non-useful stuff""" start="00:16:52.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in a tool that I want to use to think.""" start="00:16:55.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I do see the appeal there.""" start="00:16:58.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But anyway, the org-roam, like that's a roam part.""" start="00:17:00.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can watch a lot of videos""" start="00:17:04.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on that to get a feel for this.""" start="00:17:05.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Org-roam adopted this to make the connection easier""" start="00:17:07.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and replicate features. As I said, porting tools""" start="00:17:10.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that exist into Emacs, very nice pastime.""" start="00:17:13.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""A lot of people do this for a lot of things,""" start="00:17:16.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it's not a thinking environment.""" start="00:17:18.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's just another tool to take notes in""" start="00:17:20.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that behave weirdly with links or interestingly with links.""" start="00:17:22.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And Denote does do even less.""" start="00:17:25.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It only offers you a couple of shortcuts""" start="00:17:29.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to help you find files quickly.""" start="00:17:31.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It does, like you see in the bottom here in the mode line,""" start="00:17:33.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it does just show square brackets D""" start="00:17:37.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""instead of the whole ID, which would be rather long.""" start="00:17:40.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So you have a buffer list that is bearable and works.""" start="00:17:44.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can read this and find the title quickly.""" start="00:17:48.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Things like that, Denote does things like that.""" start="00:17:51.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oh, I closed the wrong.""" start="00:17:56.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Denote does things like that very well,""" start="00:17:58.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it gets out of your way otherwise.""" start="00:18:00.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Just a couple of conventions""" start="00:18:02.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to get stuff into your file system.""" start="00:18:04.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm not sure if Org-Roam now,""" start="00:18:06.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what's the current state there?""" start="00:18:08.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Do they do ID generation out of the box?""" start="00:18:11.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Is there a standard popular convention or 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+[[!template text="""how do you do that oh I typed it""" start="00:18:45.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I typed it from yeah right i didn't""" start="00:18:47.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""i didn't paste this right yeah yeah""" start="00:18:50.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this janitorial tasks that's the umbrella term""" start="00:18:53.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how do you deal with this""" start="00:18:55.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like if you put stuff like this into into your notes""" start="00:18:56.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you hopefully get a 404 code from wikipedia""" start="00:18:59.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because the page doesn't exist""" start="00:19:05.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""let's not check um you get a 404 and then you could write a tool""" start="00:19:07.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that checks all the links periodically""" start="00:19:12.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and tells you about broken links like a broken link checker""" start="00:19:13.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that then looks up maybe automatically""" start="00:19:17.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the last good version on archive.org""" start="00:19:19.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then the Wayback Machine""" start="00:19:21.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then corrects the link with the archived version""" start="00:19:23.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because the live one is 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You need to automate this.""" start="00:19:35.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm not clicking every link manually.""" start="00:19:42.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I have like, what's it now, 11,000 notes or something.""" start="00:19:45.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This is not a thing that humans are good at.""" start="00:19:49.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm not good at this.""" start="00:19:52.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I will never finish anything else if I do this manually.""" start="00:19:52.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So write a tool, write a script,""" start="00:19:55.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""get a script from the interwebs.""" start="00:19:57.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] 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id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This could also break if you rename files or remove files""" start="00:20:18.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and don't use a denote function,""" start="00:20:21.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which I believe takes care of backlinks and forward links""" start="00:20:23.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and keeps them organized.""" start="00:20:26.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you do this manually on another device,""" start="00:20:28.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""out of denote, out of Emacs, in Vim, I don't know, then yeah, mistakes happen""" start="00:20:31.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you need to deal with mistakes""" start="00:20:38.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and heal and 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video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Find large nodes and then suggest them""" start="00:21:07.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to the user to break them up.""" start="00:21:10.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like these are tasks that you can do mechanically,""" start="00:21:11.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but also it's better if you use a tool to get started,""" start="00:21:14.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""otherwise you waste a lot of time.""" start="00:21:21.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Next question, when I complete, next long question.""" start="00:21:27.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm going to copy this over because maybe""" start="00:21:35.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""When I 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I'm doing a bad job.""" start="00:25:05.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Science, technology, engineering, mathematics.""" start="00:25:09.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, so probably technology is the computer stuff.""" start="00:25:12.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, STEM.""" start="00:25:16.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Dear audience, that's science, technology,""" start="00:25:17.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""engineering, mathematics, academic fields.""" start="00:25:19.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What should we make notes of?""" start="00:25:23.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The important bits are interconnected in a hierarchy,""" start="00:25:24.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""usually chapters of a book.""" start="00:25:27.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, someone did the job of making the order""" start="00:25:28.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""out of the chaotic findings""" start="00:25:31.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that people did over hundreds of years for you.""" start="00:25:33.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's an order. But there are also many textbooks.""" start="00:25:35.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So opinions may vary. The presentation may vary.""" start="00:25:39.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Some textbooks may click with you,""" start="00:25:42.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""while others stay opaque, and you can't get into the meat.""" start="00:25:48.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sorry, I'm just typing the answer right now.""" start="00:25:59.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Copying information to another box is not, yeah.""" start="00:26:04.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, let's see what the first answer is.""" start="00:26:13.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Someone posted that Zettelkasten is great for mathematics,""" start="00:26:17.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""incredible for computer science.""" start="00:26:21.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""With OrgBabel you can have living source code, yes,""" start="00:26:22.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you can execute from the node,""" start="00:26:25.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""also true for a formula,""" start="00:26:26.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and LaTeX in interspersing of images and SVGs.""" start="00:26:28.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can even use Agda if you want to.""" start="00:26:35.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Ah, I think I know who typed the answer.""" start="00:26:37.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hello, Oliver. 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question was how Zettelkasten is useful for these kinds of things""" start="00:28:07.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""yeah it sounds like in these kinds of fields""" start="00:28:13.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you only deal with facts""" start="00:28:16.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's also kind of sort of true for psychology where you have a lot of""" start="00:28:18.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and also law where you at least in at least in German""" start="00:28:24.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and our style of law where you have a lot of where you have thick books of law""" start="00:28:29.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and very very little records,""" start="00:28:33.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's 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start="00:29:24.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can't do a lot when you're still working on the foundations.""" start="00:29:26.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like, what do you want to do there?""" start="00:29:36.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You don't innovate there. 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+[[!template text="""like you're in a, what are these called?""" start="00:32:11.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""These chambers where you're locked""" start="00:32:15.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""into very salty water, I think.""" start="00:32:18.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Floating chambers, so sensual deprivation chambers.""" start="00:32:21.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You're depriving yourself of a lot of sensual input""" start="00:32:24.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you just try to really focus""" start="00:32:29.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""into everything with your head.""" start="00:32:31.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you engage more of your body,""" start="00:32:33.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" 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and will it pay off?""" start="00:43:44.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""maybe if not, then maybe spend the time on something else""" start="00:43:48.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like don't try to exactly customize something you hate""" start="00:43:54.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""just to I don't know,""" start="00:43:57.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""do your due diligence if you don't want to""" start="00:43:59.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because then you'll hate the process""" start="00:44:04.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's worse than not using nodes a lot next questions,""" start="00:44:06.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""how are nodes structured and accessed""" start="00:44:15.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when the nodes grow from 10k to 100k nodes?""" start="00:44:17.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""yes, that's a field of exploration,""" start="00:44:20.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I mean that the lower realm there I don't know anybody""" start="00:44:22.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""who's using a hyperlinked 100k node archive.""" start="00:44:25.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I do know people who have a lot of text files""" start="00:44:32.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like the Evernote style""" start="00:44:37.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""they capture everything and put the verbatim copy into their stuff""" start="00:44:38.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then they have a lot more items of course""" start="00:44:42.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but these don't really count,""" start="00:44:47.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""these are like web clippings of websites themselves""" start="00:44:51.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I've read how many hundreds of websites today""" start="00:44:54.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I could have captured everything automatically,""" start="00:44:58.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but they wouldn't, like the files there, the clippings,""" start="00:45:02.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""they wouldn't have contributed""" start="00:45:07.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""anything meaningfully to my knowledge base,""" start="00:45:10.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because I'm not thinking about the stuff,""" start="00:45:12.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm thinking about the stuff that I'm spending time on.""" start="00:45:14.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What about that?""" start="00:45:16.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, how are nodes structured and accessed""" start="00:45:18.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when the nodes go from one to 100k?""" start="00:45:20.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I will imagine that it becomes a matter that's speculation.""" start="00:45:22.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We'll see. 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Thank you.""" start="00:45:55.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And the clue there is,""" start="00:46:03.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Eventually, you have hundreds or maybe thousands,""" start="00:46:04.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""not hundreds or thousands, of structure nodes.""" start="00:46:10.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then you have the same problem""" start="00:46:12.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you had on the lower base layer.""" start="00:46:13.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And now you will probably look for another tool.""" start="00:46:16.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But there is nothing else that's not also a structure node""" start="00:46:19.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] 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Let me check my Zettelkasten.""" start="00:49:30.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's not on screen sharing. That was stupid.""" start="00:49:34.383" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm probably not going to watch it right now with everyone here,""" start="00:49:36.216" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so my thoughts on deleting and stuff like that.""" start="00:49:48.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I do remember there was a very cleverly written, well-written post""" start="00:49:53.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the claim was, from my perspective,""" start="00:49:58.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and that's not doing the work of""" start="00:50:02.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's not doing the work of the author justice.""" start="00:50:04.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But the shortest summary is that there seems to be false contradiction,""" start="00:50:13.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where the contradiction stems from how the opposite side,""" start="00:50:19.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the note taking, the deliberate note taking,""" start="00:50:24.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""taking a lot of notes,""" start="00:50:27.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""all the notes every time, stuff, like how this is presented.""" start="00:50:28.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I would say this is more on the collecting""" start="00:50:31.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and not on the connecting side of things.""" start="00:50:34.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So like I mentioned for the, some 30 minutes ago""" start="00:50:36.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when I talked about Roam, Roam Research.""" start="00:50:42.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you start your day with a daily note,""" start="00:50:45.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""journal style, and then branch out from there,""" start="00:50:47.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you do at least have time as a structure""" start="00:50:50.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that helps you to organize what you put in.""" start="00:50:53.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But also, it can get very messy""" start="00:50:57.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and very weirdly interconnected,""" start="00:50:59.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like this meme of the with a guy""" start="00:51:01.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""standing in front of a board""" start="00:51:04.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with all these lines connecting things""" start="00:51:10.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and just, you know, with the madness in his eyes""" start="00:51:14.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can do a lot of stuff in there.""" start="00:51:17.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But at a certain point, it gets hard""" start="00:51:23.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to also get out of your own head, let's say.""" start="00:51:27.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you do it in this kind of style,""" start="00:51:30.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it can get hard to get off your own head.""" start="00:51:33.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And one litmus test that you may find enjoyable""" start="00:51:35.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you struggle with this""" start="00:51:39.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is to publish more. 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That also happens.""" start="00:54:14.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But then it's more like an article,""" start="00:54:16.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a long blog post, or an essay,""" start="00:54:18.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but never just vomiting thought out onto the page,""" start="00:54:21.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because then you will get back to the note""" start="00:54:26.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you will find, hey, there's a lot of vomit.""" start="00:54:28.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But you never follow this kind of phrase with nice.""" start="00:54:31.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I enjoyed reading that. It's always me.""" start="00:54:36.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Oppressing because of its mass,""" start="00:54:40.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's also getting in the way of having new ideas""" start="00:54:43.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because whatever is there and you need to tangle it""" start="00:54:46.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then you lost your new genuine idea,""" start="00:54:48.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this can also happen.""" start="00:54:52.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I'm not sure what the Westenberg video contains,""" start="00:54:56.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but the sentiment there of deleting everything,""" start="00:55:00.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it makes sense if you find yourself in a situation""" start="00:55:03.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where you don't have a productive system.""" start="00:55:07.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the notes from 2009 in my own Zettelkasten""" start="00:55:09.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""aren't of the highest quality standards""" start="00:55:13.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I rewrite most of them when I encounter them,""" start="00:55:15.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I can still use a couple as is and sometimes they're just garbage,""" start="00:55:17.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but as Luhmann said garbage like trickles to the ground""" start="00:55:23.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and forms a nice sediment layer there in the septic tank of your thought machine,""" start="00:55:28.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""your thought thinking environment.""" start="00:55:34.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But clear water separates and then rises to the top""" start="00:55:36.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and that's what you work with.""" start="00:55:40.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""it's never going to be 100% useful. But if it's 90% garbage""" start="00:55:42.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and if the water is, if the septic tank is never clearing,""" start="00:55:47.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then you probably need to start""" start="00:55:51.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""over and rethink your approach.""" start="00:55:54.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Maybe there was just too much garbage,""" start="00:55:55.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""too much toxic waste in there, whatever that means, right?""" start="00:55:57.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I do understand this, but also I would say""" start="00:56:01.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""maybe maybe they tried to do too much with a different mindset""" start="00:56:07.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it just didn't click and then they,""" start="00:56:11.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you know next question is there a danger?""" start="00:56:24.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""also, wait a second, answer do not probably a lot of collection,""" start="00:56:27.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""not a lot of stinking in the Zettelkasten to some purpose.""" start="00:56:41.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Usually. 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+[[!template text="""that's going to be your bottleneck""" start="00:58:20.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can't find black paper""" start="00:58:21.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and put it into your typewriter and then like that's not the speed of thought""" start="00:58:24.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's the speed of, I don't know, my long deceased grandmother""" start="00:58:30.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but yeah it's not like a strive for speed of thought tools""" start="00:58:35.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""not needing a typewriter""" start="00:58:54.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then next step reduce ritual reduce rituals and ceremony""" start="00:59:00.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What I mean by 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video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I cannot give up quoting my sources""" start="00:59:35.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because then I'm plagiarizing, stealing,""" start="00:59:37.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""forgetting where I get ideas from and confuse.""" start="00:59:39.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I get out because I'm aware of the problem there.""" start="00:59:41.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm also not trusting my own notes anymore.""" start="00:59:44.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""would not be trusting my own notes anymore""" start="00:59:47.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""i need to properly cite so then i can see hey""" start="00:59:51.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this 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This is just a technical limitation""" start="01:00:57.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because you can't have the same file name twice.""" start="01:01:00.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's not going to be useful.""" start="01:01:02.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But if you give yourself the permission to take time""" start="01:01:05.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of titling your notes in one way and also changing titles,""" start="01:01:09.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because you will know from writing introductions""" start="01:01:12.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the further you get along,""" start="01:01:16.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the more and more you need to rewrite your introductions""" start="01:01:18.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because your understanding changes same for titles""" start="01:01:22.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""titles don't always stay consistent or constant""" start="01:01:24.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's why I don't link by title, because I would then need""" start="01:01:28.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to go through my node archive and also need to go to""" start="01:01:31.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""my node archive and need to correct all the links""" start="01:01:34.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's a janitorial task I like to not do, if I can""" start="01:01:40.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So answer here, less ceremony, fewer ceremonies, plural.""" start="01:01:44.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Try to only do the minimum possible, minimum viable thing.""" start="01:01:49.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And using Emacs and D-Node, you get a lot of defaults.""" start="01:01:54.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then you need to worry""" start="01:01:57.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""not about IDs and tags that much,""" start="01:01:58.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or where to put them and how to put them.""" start="01:02:01.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can omit keywords. You can leave keywords out.""" start="01:02:04.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""They don't scale anyway.""" start="01:02:06.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But they may be interesting as a way to group,""" start="01:02:08.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but also Sascha from zettelkasten.de, from our website,""" start="01:02:12.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sascha also found that, I believe, he,""" start="01:02:19.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""structures win in the long term.""" start="01:02:23.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Manual created hubs and overviews""" start="01:02:28.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""win over machine generated lumps.""" start="01:02:30.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Because you need to reorient yourself""" start="01:02:34.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in the search results all the time.""" start="01:02:37.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's not as useful as having a pathway""" start="01:02:42.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""through your nodes that you can follow.""" start="01:02:45.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It may not be a pathway through all of your nodes, of course,""" start="01:02:49.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but it may be a pathway from entry point into some topic.""" start="01:02:52.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's why some things are essential and others aren't.""" start="01:02:56.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And the essential stuff, try to do it quickly, get better at it,""" start="01:03:01.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""practice the movements, then they get out of the way,""" start="01:03:06.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then you can focus on having ideas""" start="01:03:08.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and typing them at speed of thought,""" start="01:03:10.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""more or less, and then you're good.""" start="01:03:12.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I hope. Wishing you all the best. Next and last question.""" start="01:03:15.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""How do you navigate looking at all posts with a certain text?""" start="01:03:20.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""This might be an emacs, already new to emacs.""" start="01:03:24.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I just may have answered this.""" start="01:03:26.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""How do you navigate looking at all posts with a certain text?""" start="01:03:28.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let me go to my actual node archive.""" start="01:03:40.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then php no language learning ah""" start="01:03:42.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this is not my setup I'm very clumsy""" start="01:03:55.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm sorry, I don't know swift language learning""" start="01:03:59.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""ah that's that's a boring one php By this time, I could have also,""" start="01:04:03.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""ah, there's the model. This would be an entry point""" start="01:04:28.466" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""into my PHP atom molecule organism learning journey""" start="01:04:35.300" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where I tried to practice, what's visual line mode, sorry,""" start="01:04:39.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where I tried to practice this atom molecule thing on something new.""" start="01:04:43.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I haven't used PHP in a long time""" start="01:04:48.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and found that I wasn't, yeah, you can see it on the screen also""" start="01:04:51.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like language primitives are the atoms,""" start="01:04:59.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think molecules are more like idioms or patterns that are PHP special in PHP""" start="01:05:01.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and different in other languages in Python""" start="01:05:08.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""would be list comprehension that's in a molecule""" start="01:05:10.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and but also you can make a point for hey,""" start="01:05:13.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this comprehension is more like a syntactical thing,""" start="01:05:16.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""no no get out of here, like the for loop is the syntactical atom""" start="01:05:18.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the molecule is using the for loop""" start="01:05:23.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with weird other stuff""" start="01:05:25.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to then make the list comprehension happen.""" start="01:05:26.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's my argument there, okay? So what do we do with this?""" start="01:05:28.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I use this as an entry point if I want to see,""" start="01:05:33.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""hey, what kind of stuff did I take notes on""" start="01:05:38.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to get a better understanding""" start="01:05:41.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on multiple levels of the language.""" start="01:05:43.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And project structure conventions""" start="01:05:45.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and usually another language""" start="01:05:47.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that I use more here would be, but I can't remember now.""" start="01:05:49.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Funny, right? I can't remember how I would need to look,""" start="01:05:53.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I think I'm too clumsy in Emacs""" start="01:05:57.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to do it live on camera, sorry.""" start="01:05:58.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But the organisms part here would also be like my own inventions,""" start="01:06:00.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""let's say in code,""" start="01:06:05.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like my own discoveries where I found that in Swift, for example,""" start="01:06:06.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can express things on the type level""" start="01:06:11.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in a very sexy way sometimes.""" start="01:06:13.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then I would put these there as well.""" start="01:06:15.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So these are also,""" start="01:06:19.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There are organisms to discover in the language reference,""" start="01:06:20.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but there are also organisms to discover in the world,""" start="01:06:26.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then they are your own inventions,""" start="01:06:30.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""discoveries, more or less. And that's a sign of mastery.""" start="01:06:32.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""If you work more on these things,""" start="01:06:36.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then you don't need to worry""" start="01:06:38.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about the basics of the language anymore.""" start="01:06:40.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I can use this as an entry point""" start="01:06:42.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to get into things that are very PHP-esque.""" start="01:06:46.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""When do I need this? When I want to talk about PHP,""" start="01:06:51.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like I do now.""" start="01:06:54.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Why do I show this when the question is about tags?""" start="01:06:55.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Because if I search for... Which one do I take?""" start="01:06:59.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's try grep. php. Yep, grep exited the anomaly.""" start="01:07:10.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Dang, why? Option requires an argument.""" start="01:07:22.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yes, eshell is there.""" start="01:07:28.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So let's just use rg, ripgrep and then ripgrep for php.""" start="01:07:36.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And you see I get, I can do filenames only, right?""" start="01:07:43.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Let's not worry. I get a lot of, let's just scroll up.""" start="01:07:50.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I get a lot more hits here for the PHP tech,""" start="01:07:56.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which is only about PHP specific things,""" start="01:08:03.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""not about anything that I do in PHP.""" start="01:08:06.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like, I don't know, I don't take Laravel or Filament,""" start="01:08:09.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which are frameworks, libraries in PHP,""" start="01:08:15.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the Zend library or whatever, I don't know many.""" start="01:08:17.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like I wouldn't take everything""" start="01:08:21.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and anything that is related to the php ecosystem""" start="01:08:23.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with the php hashtag.""" start="01:08:27.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Why? Because then the tag becomes useless.""" start="01:08:28.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I only tag things that are about the language.""" start="01:08:30.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like how do I pass variables to php includes that's php related.""" start="01:08:33.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And you see these are... I'm still not at the top.""" start="01:08:39.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""now i'm at the top these are a lot more findings than you could""" start="01:08:44.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""these don't fit on the screen""" start="01:08:48.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""these are three pages i believe""" start="01:08:49.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the note about my language learning journey was""" start="01:08:51.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""wasn't even one full page here's white space""" start="01:08:55.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""there wasn't okay right but still there's much more stuff""" start="01:08:59.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""the hashtag I don't use for navigating.""" start="01:09:02.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I only use this, let's say, the shotgun approach.""" start="01:09:07.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think Sascha on our Zettelkasten blog post,""" start="01:09:10.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""don't remember which post, mentioned this as well.""" start="01:09:14.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sometimes you need a sniper rifle.""" start="01:09:16.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sometimes you need a shotgun.""" start="01:09:18.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And the hashtag-based search would be I don't know what I'm looking for.""" start="01:09:21.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It was PHP related. I hope I use the hashtag correctly""" start="01:09:27.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then kill all these nodes from my archive.""" start="01:09:32.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The metaphor doesn't work that way,""" start="01:09:36.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but still you get a lot of results here""" start="01:09:38.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and you could use this as a way to filter from 11,000 nodes""" start="01:09:41.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""down to 50 or so, maybe less.""" start="01:09:45.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And if you got this far, then you can start to do it in a mechanical way again.""" start="01:09:53.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But wait, if you have 100 or 1000 nodes in the results there,""" start="01:09:59.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then you can't mechanically go through all the nodes again.""" start="01:10:05.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can maybe skim and look""" start="01:10:08.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for something that catches your eye,""" start="01:10:09.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you're lucky, and if that's the thing""" start="01:10:11.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that works for you.""" start="01:10:14.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but usually no, like usually the text become useless""" start="01:10:15.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then maybe tag groups become more useful""" start="01:10:21.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like PHP and LSP which is on screen here""" start="01:10:24.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like then maybe the combination of two tags""" start="01:10:28.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that reduces the search terms enough""" start="01:10:30.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""like this is basically glorified full text search""" start="01:10:32.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""where you highlight certain terms of importance that's it,""" start="01:10:36.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I wouldn't use I wouldn't put more effort in there""" start="01:10:41.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's also maybe useful to group things by topic.""" start="01:10:45.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""For example, study notes like, I don't know,""" start="01:10:48.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""this is my undergrad, third semester,""" start="01:10:52.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what do you do in the third semester, I don't know,""" start="01:10:56.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""history of philosophy of science of birds,""" start="01:11:01.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""very long course name, and then week 10.""" start="01:11:06.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then you assemble everything""" start="01:11:10.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with this very technical tagging.""" start="01:11:13.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Then you can use these folders""" start="01:11:15.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to loosely group stuff together""" start="01:11:18.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that happened during that week.""" start="01:11:21.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And if you have 10 required readings and then do five of them,""" start="01:11:23.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but they're also not closely interrelated,""" start="01:11:26.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you will have read five to 10 different sources that you could process.""" start="01:11:28.880" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You could maybe then also create an overview node""" start="01:11:33.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as a preparation for the seminar""" start="01:11:36.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""whatever happens at university.""" start="01:11:38.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Then the hashtag becomes just a way to group things.""" start="01:11:44.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But once you create the structure node,""" start="01:11:51.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you don't need the hashtags to navigate anymore.""" start="01:11:52.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You could then maybe use the hashtags not to navigate""" start="01:11:55.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but to to clump, to create collections,""" start="01:11:57.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""pre-assembled to some degree collections of things that exist already,""" start="01:12:02.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""get them out there and then review them.""" start="01:12:07.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Like Twyla Tharp again, dumping all the notes on a table,""" start="01:12:09.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""all the stuff on the table,""" start="01:12:13.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""not just notes, all the clippings and so on and so on,""" start="01:12:15.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then making sense of them.""" start="01:12:17.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""That's what you can use a hashtag search for in the longterm.""" start="01:12:18.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I'm not convinced about navigational use in the longterm.""" start="01:12:21.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""which doesn't mean that it won't work for you,""" start="01:12:27.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but I can't recommend it.""" start="01:12:31.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can't recommend trying to do it that way.""" start="01:12:32.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So my answer is going to be, how do you navigate""" start="01:12:34.900" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""looking at all posts with certain tags? I don't.""" start="01:12:37.883" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Tags are just a way to loosely group notes and stuff in general""" start="01:12:45.508" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so that you can find potentially, PP, why doesn't P work?""" start="01:12:53.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Potentially relevant pieces of information more quickly.""" start="01:13:05.520" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Navigational aids. Create navigational aids""" start="01:13:14.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""things that help you navigate like this is for a week""" start="01:13:34.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what did I say 10 of semester three""" start="01:13:38.050" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""uh the history of the sociology""" start="01:13:42.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the philosophy of science of birds""" start="01:13:44.633" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or something lump things together there then you have a""" start="01:13:46.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""then you have a scratch pad to think on you do this""" start="01:13:51.560" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""did do this when you went to university with paper anyway, right?""" start="01:13:54.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You would get your college book or whatever""" start="01:13:59.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then you would take notes and these like that location""" start="01:14:01.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of that piece of paper in your college book""" start="01:14:04.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in your whatever notes folder""" start="01:14:07.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that's the important piece of information""" start="01:14:09.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and the scratchpad, the thinking environment for this course""" start="01:14:15.040" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and if you have all the other things""" start="01:14:20.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you ever did at your disposal as well""" start="01:14:22.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""maybe pull them in maybe pull them in""" start="01:14:24.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then bring them to the discussion""" start="01:14:26.840" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with your professor or your teaching assistant""" start="01:14:28.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and asking about, well, I read these five books""" start="01:14:31.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that you recommended for this week.""" start="01:14:35.200" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you for recommending five whole books""" start="01:14:37.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""for one week of reading. I really enjoyed that. Long pause.""" start="01:14:40.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And then you say, I also thought about other topics""" start="01:14:45.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and brought them into a, I don't know, dialectic or position.""" start="01:14:50.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""What do you think about foxes in that regard""" start="01:14:54.360" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and their own history and subjectivity""" start="01:14:58.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""when it comes to the bird's point of view or something, right?""" start="01:15:01.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""You can only do this if you either know this by heart""" start="01:15:08.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because you do this a lot,""" start="01:15:11.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""think a lot about this stuff or you do this,""" start="01:15:13.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you stumble upon this and then look for oppositions,""" start="01:15:15.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""look for certain patterns in your notes""" start="01:15:18.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then try to pull them in and represent them again""" start="01:15:19.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so they actually do exist and then you can work with this,""" start="01:15:22.480" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can get on people's nerves""" start="01:15:26.240" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you can write weird papers, essays""" start="01:15:27.400" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then get through your university studies quickly""" start="01:15:30.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""maybe also become an interesting columnist,""" start="01:15:33.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't know, I've never been a columnist Right.""" start="01:15:35.960" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think these are all the questions.""" start="01:15:39.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm going to delete the leftover ones.""" start="01:15:44.080" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I hope you enjoyed some of the answers.""" start="01:15:47.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you so much. Thank you. That's a lot.""" start="01:15:52.440" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We'll go back and get everything transcribed as well""" start="01:15:58.160" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then you can turn that into other articles in the future""" start="01:16:02.760" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""because that's how this all works, right?""" start="01:16:08.600" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It all turns into writing. It all does.""" start="01:16:10.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All the rest is garbage.""" start="01:16:14.320" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I don't know why we invented anything else.""" start="01:16:16.000" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's only useful to transfer language before writing,""" start="01:16:20.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but now you can just read.""" start="01:16:23.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We have two people in the big blue button room""" start="01:16:26.280" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""who are still around, but I think they've got their, like,""" start="01:16:29.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""they don't have microphones set up.""" start="01:16:33.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So I don't know if you want to just, like, CryptKNFL,""" start="01:16:35.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""if you want to just follow up through the etherpad,""" start="01:16:40.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""or email, I guess, in case you have further questions.""" start="01:16:44.340" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yeah, if you want to wrap up,""" start="01:16:47.640" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I know it's getting a little bit late over there,""" start="01:16:50.120" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you're in your time zone. Thank you so much.""" start="01:16:52.800" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, all right. Thank you. You're welcome.""" start="01:16:55.920" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thanks for joining and listening.""" start="01:16:59.680" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, I'll wrap it up here then.""" start="01:17:02.720" video="qanda-zettelkasten" id="subtitle"]] + +</div>Questions or comments? 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y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 4 PM</text></g> <g transform="translate(658,3)"> <line stroke="darkgray" x1="0" y1="0" x2="0" y2="120"></line> <text fill="black" x="0" y="140" font-size="10" text-anchor="left"> 5 PM</text></g></svg> -</div> - [[!toc ]] -Format: 24-min talk ; Q&A: BigBlueButton conference room <https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-zettelkasten.html> Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-zettelkasten> +Format: 24-min talk ; Q&A: BigBlueButton conference room Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-zettelkasten> Etherpad: <https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-zettelkasten> -Discuss on IRC: [#emacsconf-gen](https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf,emacsconf-gen) -Status: Q&A open for participation -<div>Times in different time zones:</div><div class="times" start="2025-12-07T18:00:00Z" end="2025-12-07T18:25:00Z"><div class="conf-time">Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~1:00 PM - 1:25 PM EST (US/Eastern)</div><div class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~12:00 PM - 12:25 PM CST (US/Central)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~11:00 AM - 11:25 AM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~10:00 AM - 10:25 AM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~6:00 PM - 6:25 PM UTC <br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~7:00 PM - 7:25 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~8:00 PM - 8:25 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~11:30 PM - 11:55 PM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~2:00 AM - 2:25 AM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Monday, Dec 8 2025, ~3:00 AM - 3:25 AM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><strong><a href="/2025/watch/gen/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></strong></div> +Status: TO_INDEX_QA + +# Talk + <div class="vid mainVideo"><video controls preload="none" id="mainVideo-zettelkasten"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--main.vtt" default />"""<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--main--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="mainVideo-zettelkasten" data=""" 00:01.400 Introduction 01:25.534 Advocating Freedoms @@ -31,6 +27,10 @@ Status: Q&A open for participation 20:39.068 Learn, Share, Grow 22:45.297 Outro -"""]]<div></div>Duration: 23:18 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-zettelkasten">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/current/bbb-zettelkasten.html">Open public Q&A</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--main.opus">Download --main.opus (20MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--main.webm">Download --main.webm (41MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--script.org">Download --script.org</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/wE8vCWyr1Eo">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> +"""]]<div></div>Duration: 23:18 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-zettelkasten">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--main.opus">Download --main.opus (20MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--main.webm">Download --main.webm (41MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--script.org">Download --script.org</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/wE8vCWyr1Eo">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> + +# Q&A + +<div class="vid qanda"><video controls preload="none" id="qanda-zettelkasten"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--answers.m4v" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--answers.vtt" default />"""<p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video><div>Listen to just the audio:<br /><audio controls preload="none" id="qanda-zettelkasten-audio" src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--answers.opus"></audio></div><div></div>Duration: 1:17:07 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://pad.emacsconf.org/2025-zettelkasten">Open Etherpad</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--answers.json">Download --answers.json (1.5MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--answers.m4v">Download --answers.m4v (152MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--answers.opus">Download --answers.opus (39MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--answers.tsv">Download --answers.tsv</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--answers.txt">Download --answers.txt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--answers.vtt">Download --answers.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2025/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--answers.webm">Download --answers.webm (166MB)</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/2025/info/zettelkasten-nav.md b/2025/info/zettelkasten-nav.md index 900421db..bfc20b3a 100644 --- a/2025/info/zettelkasten-nav.md +++ b/2025/info/zettelkasten-nav.md @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ <div class="talk-nav"> Back to the [[talks]] -Previous by time: <a href="/2025/talks/completion">corfu+yasnippet: Easier than I thought</a> -Next by time: <a href="/2025/talks/hyperboleqa">Questions and answers to help you fly with Hyperbole</a> -Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> - <strong><a href="https://emacsconf.org/2025/watch/gen">Watch</a></strong> +Previous by track: <a href="/2025/talks/completion">corfu+yasnippet: Easier than I thought</a> +Next by track: <a href="/2025/talks/hyperboleqa">Questions and answers to help you fly with Hyperbole</a> +Track: <span class="sched-track General">General</span> </div> |