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diff --git a/2025/info/schemacs-after.md b/2025/info/schemacs-after.md index 65fe55f1..880315ee 100644 --- a/2025/info/schemacs-after.md +++ b/2025/info/schemacs-after.md @@ -407,10 +407,12 @@ Captioner: sachac <div class="transcript transcript-qanda"><a name="schemacs-qanda-transcript"></a><h1>Q&A transcript (unedited)</h1> -[[!template text="""[oops, forgot to start] object protocol has a scheme implementation.""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: I think that Kiczalez et al.'s metaobject protocol has a scheme implementation, does this mean schemacs will be metaobject-changeable in practice?""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[oops, forgot to start] [Corwin]: ... object protocol""" start="00:00:00.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""has a scheme implementation.""" start="00:00:01.092" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Does this mean schemacs will be""" start="00:00:03.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""meta object changeable in practice?""" start="00:00:07.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""So I don't actually need the meta object protocol so far.""" start="00:00:11.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: So I don't actually need the meta object protocol so far.""" start="00:00:11.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""In the reference implementation for Guile,""" start="00:00:16.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Guile has its own object-oriented system called Goops.""" start="00:00:19.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I'm sorry, I'm hearing a delay.""" start="00:00:27.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -434,8 +436,10 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""I've created that for the GUI front end.""" start="00:01:21.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And that's all the more I've needed so far.""" start="00:01:23.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So, yeah. Oh, yeah, please, next question. Sure.""" start="00:01:26.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""So how will the GUI display code be R7RS compliant?""" start="00:01:33.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""As far as I know, there's no DL open in R7RS. That's right.""" start="00:01:39.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: How will the GUI display code be r7rs compliant afaik there is no dlopen in r7rs?""" start="00:01:33.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Corwin]: So how will the GUI display code be R7RS compliant?""" start="00:01:33.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""As far as I know, there's no DL open in R7RS.""" start="00:01:39.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: That's right.""" start="00:01:44.487" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Yeah, R7RS small is extremely small""" start="00:01:45.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and does not have any features at all.""" start="00:01:48.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But it does provide a conv expand macro.""" start="00:01:50.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -454,16 +458,17 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""will your Scheme implementation""" start="00:02:27.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""support the Schemacs GUI protocol?""" start="00:02:28.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So I've kind of written my own protocol,""" start="00:02:32.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""and it's entirely R7 RSML compliant.""" start="00:02:34.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and it's entirely R7RS small compliant.""" start="00:02:34.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""It's all done with record,""" start="00:02:36.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""what are they called, record types.""" start="00:02:38.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Do you think some of the Schemacs""" start="00:02:43.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Do you think some of schemacs could be extracted into SRFIs since you have made it portable between scheme implementations?""" start="00:02:43.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Corwin]: Do you think some of the Schemacs""" start="00:02:43.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""could be extracted into SFRIs since you've made it portable""" start="00:02:46.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""between scheme implementations?""" start="00:02:50.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Yes, I would definitely like to do that.""" start="00:02:52.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: Yes, I would definitely like to do that.""" start="00:02:52.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Probably first thing I'll do is start splitting up""" start="00:02:55.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and publishing independent libraries""" start="00:02:59.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""on the Aku package manager.""" start="00:03:01.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""on the Akku package manager.""" start="00:03:01.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""This is a kind of a package manager ecosystem for Scheme,""" start="00:03:04.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and in particular R7RS Scheme.""" start="00:03:07.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And it's also mirrored on the other package manager,""" start="00:03:11.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -473,20 +478,22 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""which is based on the Haskell lens library.""" start="00:03:25.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I don't think that exists yet in Scheme,""" start="00:03:27.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""so I thought that might make a good SRFI.""" start="00:03:29.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Is there a recommended Scheme implementation?""" start="00:03:34.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Guile is the reference implementation.""" start="00:03:36.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Is there a recommended scheme implementation or does it try to be as portable as possible?""" start="00:03:34.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Corwin]: Is there a recommended Scheme implementation?""" start="00:03:34.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: Guile is the reference implementation.""" start="00:03:36.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""It's the only one that works with GUI,""" start="00:03:44.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but as I demonstrated in my presentation,""" start="00:03:47.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""the Emacs Lisp interpreter""" start="00:03:51.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""works on multiple schemes so far,""" start="00:03:52.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and I've had trouble with some of the scheme compilers.""" start="00:03:55.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But yeah, I would recommend Guile.""" start="00:04:00.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""But how would schemacs deal with""" start="00:04:04.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: How would Schemacs deal with Emacs' (re)display architecture? Would it be having its own display architecture? If so, how can it be compatible with things like overlays, images, etc.? From what I know, Emacs is extremely idiosyncratic here.""" start="00:04:04.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Corwin]: But how would schemacs deal with""" start="00:04:04.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Emacs's re-display architecture""" start="00:04:07.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""will be having its own display architecture?""" start="00:04:10.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And if so, how will you handle""" start="00:04:13.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""things like overlays and images?""" start="00:04:15.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Yeah, definitely. That's to be determined.""" start="00:04:18.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: Yeah, definitely. That's to be determined.""" start="00:04:18.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So basically, the scheme way of doing things""" start="00:04:25.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So, I've created this React-like programming framework.""" start="00:04:31.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""It's like ReactJS or Vue.js.""" start="00:04:36.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -503,16 +510,17 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""And I may have to make alterations""" start="00:05:15.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""specifically to support Emacs Lisp.""" start="00:05:17.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I don't know yet. I haven't got that far.""" start="00:05:22.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""You were saying that you would like""" start="00:05:28.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: You were saying that you'd like to get "most" of the one thousand three hundred and something Emacs packages done. Is there a technical blocker to doing them all? Or just a problem of getting enough people in to help and start writing scheme?""" start="00:05:28.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Corwin]: You were saying that you would like""" start="00:05:28.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to get the most out of the 1300""" start="00:05:30.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and something Emacs packages that exist.""" start="00:05:33.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Are there technical blockers to doing them all""" start="00:05:36.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""or just a problem of getting enough people to jump into it?""" start="00:05:38.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Yeah, it's just a matter of implementing enough""" start="00:05:44.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: Yeah, it's just a matter of implementing enough""" start="00:05:44.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""of the Emacs built-in functions.""" start="00:05:48.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Right now, there's kind of a big bug.""" start="00:05:50.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I mentioned this also in the presentation.""" start="00:05:57.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""The stacks trace that you saw during my presentation,""" start="00:05:59.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""The stacktrace that you saw during my presentation,""" start="00:05:59.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that is the biggest bug right now""" start="00:06:02.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that's preventing me from running most other code.""" start="00:06:05.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And I don't think other people""" start="00:06:08.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -531,29 +539,30 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""because there's quite a few of those APIs.""" start="00:06:47.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But I imagine, I have no idea, no way of knowing,""" start="00:06:49.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but I imagine we don't need 100% of them""" start="00:06:53.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""in order to run most of Elpa.""" start="00:06:56.460" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""We probably can get some of the important large Elpa packages""" start="00:06:58.168" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""in order to run most of ELPA.""" start="00:06:56.460" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""We probably can get some of the important large ELPA packages""" start="00:06:58.168" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""like Magit and Org mode with just enough of the Emacs Lisp""" start="00:07:05.085" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""built-in functions to handle that.""" start="00:07:12.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But we won't really know until we've tried.""" start="00:07:14.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So yeah, I'll try to get this bug fixed right away.""" start="00:07:19.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""That way we can all start working on it together, hopefully.""" start="00:07:22.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Highly relatable answer there.""" start="00:07:24.980" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Corwin]: Highly relatable answer there.""" start="00:07:24.980" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""We'll burn that bridge when we're on it or something.""" start="00:07:27.127" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""What are your thoughts on chicken scheme?""" start="00:07:31.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: What are you thoughts on Chicken Scheme? Would it be a good fit?""" start="00:07:31.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Corwin]: What are your thoughts on Chicken Scheme?""" start="00:07:31.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Will that be a good fit? Do you think?""" start="00:07:34.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""I think it will be, um, I, I did show""" start="00:07:37.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: I think it will be, um, I, I did show""" start="00:07:37.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""trying to run chicken scheme in my, um, presentation""" start="00:07:41.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and, uh, I ran up against some kind of issue,""" start="00:07:44.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which I really don't know how to debug.""" start="00:07:48.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Um, it's probably something to do with the, uh, pattern matcher.""" start="00:07:51.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Um, I'm using the pattern matcher,""" start="00:07:55.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""uh, written by Alex shin,""" start="00:07:58.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""uh, written by Alex Shinn,""" start="00:07:58.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which seems to be the most portable.""" start="00:08:00.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Pattern matcher, uh, for our seven RS scheme.""" start="00:08:02.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But not all scheme compilers implement, what is it called?""" start="00:08:05.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""The macro, I can't remember what it's called.""" start="00:08:13.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""There's the macro expansion system for R7 RS small.""" start="00:08:19.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There's the macro expansion system for R7RS small.""" start="00:08:19.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""All of these scheme implementations""" start="00:08:24.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""seem to have a slightly different take on how they work.""" start="00:08:27.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And so that macro expander has been, for pattern matching,""" start="00:08:29.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -564,8 +573,9 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""So I don't know, we'll see if I can,""" start="00:08:45.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""if somebody can help me get it to work on chicken team,""" start="00:08:49.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I'd really appreciate it.""" start="00:08:52.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Can this implementation be used by Guile's Emacs Lisp mode?""" start="00:08:56.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Guile's Emacs list mode. Okay. Yeah, good question.""" start="00:09:01.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Can this emacs lisp implementation be used by Guile's emacs lisp "mode"?""" start="00:08:56.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Corwin]: Can this implementation be used by Guile's Emacs Lisp mode?""" start="00:08:56.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: Guile's Emacs Lisp mode. Okay. Yeah, good question.""" start="00:09:01.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I did mention this last year in my presentation.""" start="00:09:08.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Emacs list in Guile is totally different""" start="00:09:10.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""from what I've done.""" start="00:09:13.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -585,23 +595,25 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""So yeah, because I want it to be portable,""" start="00:10:10.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""it's necessarily going to be not reliant""" start="00:10:14.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""on anything that's inside of the Guile library,""" start="00:10:16.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""including the Emacs LISP interpreter that's there.""" start="00:10:19.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Maybe I could replace the Emacs LISP interpreter in Guile""" start="00:10:21.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""including the Emacs Lisp interpreter that's there.""" start="00:10:19.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Maybe I could replace the Emacs Lisp interpreter in Guile""" start="00:10:21.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""if Andy Wingo would be interested. All right.""" start="00:10:24.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And I see we've got a few people""" start="00:10:29.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that did jump into the BBB.""" start="00:10:31.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I'm just going to quickly, oops.""" start="00:10:34.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""quickly try to make my text a little bigger""" start="00:10:37.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""so I can read a question that came here.""" start="00:10:40.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""I wonder if we can do some sort of pragmatic analysis""" start="00:10:42.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: I wonder if we could do some sort of programmatic analysis on popular Emacs packages to see what list of functions they tend to depend upon, follow function calls down to the lowest level""" start="00:10:42.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Corwin]: I wonder if we can do some sort of pragmatic analysis""" start="00:10:42.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""on popular Emacs packages""" start="00:10:48.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to see what list of functions they tend to depend on""" start="00:10:49.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""while a function calls down to the lower level.""" start="00:10:52.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Yeah, that would be good.""" start="00:10:54.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Somebody please do that for me. Awesome.""" start="00:10:57.210" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Somebody's raising their hand. Divya.""" start="00:11:02.252" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Let's see. Yeah, can you hear me?""" start="00:11:05.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Yes, I can. Yeah, go ahead. Hello, thank you.""" start="00:11:08.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: Yeah, that would be good.""" start="00:10:54.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Somebody please do that for me.""" start="00:10:57.210" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Corwin]: Awesome. Somebody's raising their hand. Divya.""" start="00:10:59.383" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Divya]: Let's see. Yeah, can you hear me?""" start="00:11:05.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Corwin]: Yes, we can. Yeah, go ahead.""" start="00:11:08.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Divya]: Hello, thank you.""" start="00:11:11.735" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Yeah, this is really awesome.""" start="00:11:12.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I use Guile, and I love Guile,""" start="00:11:14.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and I also love functional programming,""" start="00:11:16.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -611,27 +623,28 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""are you also considering Racket in the scheme group?""" start="00:11:26.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Because I know a lot of people do not consider Racket""" start="00:11:29.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""as a sort of scheme thing, because it grew out of it.""" start="00:11:32.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Do you think you'll take something from Racket?""" start="00:11:36.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Do you think there is an opportunity to use Racket?""" start="00:11:36.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Divya]: Do you think you'll take something from Racket?""" start="00:11:36.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Because I think Racket has""" start="00:11:39.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""a lot of good ideas that can be used.""" start="00:11:42.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Yeah, I briefly looked at Racket's GUI library,""" start="00:11:44.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""a lot of good ideas that can be used.""" start="00:11:40.425" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: Yeah, I briefly looked at Racket's GUI library,""" start="00:11:42.091" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but it's very, very heavily dependent""" start="00:11:48.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""on Racket's macro expander,""" start="00:11:51.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which is, well, yeah, the macro expander""" start="00:11:53.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is extremely complex for Racket,""" start="00:11:57.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and I don't think it's possible to port it to any other scheme,""" start="00:11:59.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""as far as I know. But Racket is based on SheaScheme.""" start="00:12:02.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""And I am making an effort to port my code to Shea's scheme.""" start="00:12:07.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""as far as I know. But Racket is based on Chez Scheme.""" start="00:12:02.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And I am making an effort to port my code to Chez's Scheme.""" start="00:12:07.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I mentioned this earlier,""" start="00:12:14.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""but there's the Gwen Weinholdt Aku system,""" start="00:12:18.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""but there's the Gwen Weinholdt Akku system,""" start="00:12:18.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""which allows you to translate R7RS to R6RS.""" start="00:12:22.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""And since Shea is an R6RS compiler,""" start="00:12:25.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And since Chez is an R6RS compiler,""" start="00:12:25.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I did at one point get the Emacs Lisp interpreter""" start="00:12:28.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""to compile for Shea,""" start="00:12:33.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""although I think There's been a change""" start="00:12:34.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""either to Aku or somewhere in my own code base.""" start="00:12:38.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""to compile for Chez,""" start="00:12:33.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""although I think there's been a change""" start="00:12:34.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""either to Akku or somewhere in my own code base.""" start="00:12:38.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""It doesn't build anymore, and I'm not sure why.""" start="00:12:40.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""But I would also very much like to run this on Che.""" start="00:12:42.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But I would also very much like to run this on Chez.""" start="00:12:42.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And I guess in that sense, we'll be able to work on Racket as well.""" start="00:12:47.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""There's also one other option.""" start="00:12:54.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Alexis King has written an R7RS language package for Racket.""" start="00:12:56.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -639,23 +652,25 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""running my package on R7RS for Racket.""" start="00:13:05.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But that would be something interesting.""" start="00:13:08.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Yes, I would like to try that.""" start="00:13:11.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Yeah, it'll be interesting.""" start="00:13:12.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""I do have some experience with chairs.""" start="00:13:13.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Divya]: Yeah, it'll be interesting.""" start="00:13:12.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I do have some experience with Chez.""" start="00:13:13.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So, uh, if I can find some time,""" start="00:13:15.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""I'll, I'll, I'll certainly like to, I would appreciate.""" start="00:13:17.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll, I'll, I'll certainly like to,""" start="00:13:17.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: I would very much appreciate.""" start="00:13:20.007" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Yes. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah.""" start="00:13:21.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Another question I have is, like,""" start="00:13:24.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Shouldn't it be enough to just implement the builtin functions? Most of the commands are written in Emacs Lisp, right?""" start="00:13:24.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Divya]: Another question I have is, like,""" start="00:13:24.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""what exactly is sort of, like, the, the approach is that""" start="00:13:26.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""you'll 1st want to do the interpreter""" start="00:13:29.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""and then have enough list functions.""" start="00:13:31.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Uh, getting the max list functions""" start="00:13:33.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""interpreted or interpretable.""" start="00:13:36.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""And then go for GUI or do you want""" start="00:13:38.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""you'll first want to do the interpreter""" start="00:13:29.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then have enough Elisp functions,""" start="00:13:31.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text=""" getting the GNU Emacs Lisp functions""" start="00:13:33.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""interpreted or interpretable,""" start="00:13:36.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and then go for GUI, or do you want""" start="00:13:38.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to sort of like go hand in hand""" start="00:13:41.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is like we have the interpreter working on""" start="00:13:42.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and we have also the GUI""" start="00:13:45.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""and we sort of use one for the other.""" start="00:13:46.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Yeah, I consider the two tasks to be parallel.""" start="00:13:53.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and we sort of use one for the other?""" start="00:13:46.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: Yeah, I consider the two tasks to be parallel.""" start="00:13:53.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So I'm actually doing the GUI separately.""" start="00:13:56.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""The reason why is because the GUI for Schemacs""" start="00:13:59.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is really just a clone of the look and feel of Emacs.""" start="00:14:05.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -674,8 +689,8 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""similar in Schemacs, similar to GNU Emacs.""" start="00:14:46.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""In Schemacs, using the Emacs programming language,""" start="00:14:50.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I think that's something that we should worried about""" start="00:14:54.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""after we have enough of the Emacs list implemented.""" start="00:14:59.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Yeah, that makes sense.""" start="00:15:03.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""after we have enough of the Emacs Lisp implemented.""" start="00:14:59.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Divya]: Yeah, that makes sense.""" start="00:15:03.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""There are sort of, I'm a bit worried.""" start="00:15:04.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So, I don't know if, so one of my presentations""" start="00:15:06.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is going to be tomorrow.""" start="00:15:10.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -683,18 +698,18 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""It's a document viewer in Emacs.""" start="00:15:13.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And essentially one of the issues that I'm up against""" start="00:15:15.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is that Emacs's display system""" start="00:15:17.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""is sort of very let's say, not flexible.""" start="00:15:20.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""is sort of very... let's say, not flexible.""" start="00:15:20.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""When trying to analyze where this inflexibility comes from,""" start="00:15:25.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I don't think it's just the display architecture.""" start="00:15:31.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""I think parts of eLISP itself""" start="00:15:35.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think parts of Elisp itself""" start="00:15:35.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""are connected to the display architecture.""" start="00:15:38.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""The notion of a cell in a buffer,""" start="00:15:43.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""itself is connected tightly to""" start="00:15:48.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""how the re-display architecture works.""" start="00:15:52.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So I think you'll have to sort of figure out""" start="00:15:54.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""what exactly you can salvage from ELISP""" start="00:15:57.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""what exactly you can salvage from Elisp""" start="00:15:57.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""without taking the display architecture baggage.""" start="00:16:00.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""That's right. I do anticipate""" start="00:16:05.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: That's right. I do anticipate""" start="00:16:05.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that's going to be fairly challenging.""" start="00:16:08.002" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""It's all Turing-complete,""" start="00:16:09.877" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""so I imagine we're probably going to end up""" start="00:16:14.585" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -702,20 +717,22 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""for the Emacs Lisp display architecture in Scheme""" start="00:16:21.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that will somehow translate down""" start="00:16:24.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to the React-like protocol that I've written.""" start="00:16:27.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""But yeah, I don't I haven't that's nice.""" start="00:16:30.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""No, this is this is very exciting. Yeah. Oh Yes, it is.""" start="00:16:32.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Yeah, I'm glad so like a lot of people have told me""" start="00:16:36.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""that they really Are excited to see this project""" start="00:16:39.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""But yeah, I don't... I haven't... That's nice.""" start="00:16:30.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Divya]: No, this is this is very exciting. Yeah.""" start="00:16:32.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: Oh, yes, it is.""" start="00:16:35.257" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, I'm glad. A lot of people have told me""" start="00:16:36.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that they really are excited to see this project,""" start="00:16:39.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and this really helps me""" start="00:16:41.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""You know keep focused on this project""" start="00:16:42.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""keep focused on this project,""" start="00:16:42.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""because a lot of people are very interested.""" start="00:16:46.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""So It's so I'd like to move on""" start="00:16:48.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Corwin]: I'd like to move on""" start="00:16:48.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to a couple of questions from the past.""" start="00:16:50.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""We're starting to build up a good backlog.""" start="00:16:52.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Thank you for that. Yeah Next question from the pad I have.""" start="00:16:54.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Can you tell us more about the show stopping bug?""" start="00:16:59.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Thank you for that, Divya. Next question from the pad I have.""" start="00:16:54.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Tell us more about this show-stopping bug! How to squash it? Can people help?""" start="00:16:59.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Corwin]: Can you tell us more about the show stopping bug?""" start="00:16:59.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""How to squash it? How can people help?""" start="00:17:02.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""OK, well, that one, unfortunately, I think,""" start="00:17:04.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: OK, well, that one, unfortunately, I think,""" start="00:17:04.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""unless you're really a scheme genius""" start="00:17:08.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and you can really read my code""" start="00:17:11.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and immediately understand how it all works,""" start="00:17:13.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -760,15 +777,16 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""I hope anyway that's going to work.""" start="00:19:12.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""You never know with bugs.""" start="00:19:16.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""They're always a little bit tricky. Okay, next question.""" start="00:19:17.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Are there performance concerns""" start="00:19:21.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""with implementing certain C primitives in PeerScheme?""" start="00:19:23.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""So who is it? The famous computer scientist that said""" start="00:19:28.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Are there performance concerns with implementing certain C primitives in pure scheme?""" start="00:19:21.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Corwin]: Are there performance concerns""" start="00:19:21.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""with implementing certain C primitives in pure Scheme?""" start="00:19:23.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: So who is it? The famous computer scientist that said""" start="00:19:28.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""premature optimization is the root of all evil.""" start="00:19:32.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""I think it was the guy who invented the A star algorithm.""" start="00:19:35.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I think it was the guy who invented the A\* algorithm.""" start="00:19:35.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""His name escapes me at the minute.""" start="00:19:39.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But yeah, I'm not concerned about performance yet,""" start="00:19:42.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""although most of the scheme compilers that I have seen,""" start="00:19:49.360" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""especially Shea and Gambit""" start="00:19:52.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""especially Chez and Gambit""" start="00:19:52.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""have extremely good performance characteristics.""" start="00:19:57.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And so I think there won't be""" start="00:20:02.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""too much difficulty with performance,""" start="00:20:03.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -780,24 +798,26 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""that painted to a canvas,""" start="00:20:16.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""maybe for a Wayland implementation or something.""" start="00:20:18.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""But I don't know. It's not a concern for me, performance.""" start="00:20:21.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Okay, there are a few more questions. I do want to mention""" start="00:20:29.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Corwin]: Okay, there are a few more questions. I do want to mention""" start="00:20:29.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that the stream has cut away at this point,""" start="00:20:32.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but we're still recording live.""" start="00:20:33.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""All of this will be put up on the website""" start="00:20:36.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and so on like that.""" start="00:20:38.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So, I appreciate all the enthusiastic questions""" start="00:20:40.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and you're kind of tanking through them all.""" start="00:20:44.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Me too. I love how many questions I'm getting.""" start="00:20:47.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: Me too. I love how many questions I'm getting.""" start="00:20:47.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""This is very encouraging""" start="00:20:52.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and it really makes me want to keep on working on it.""" start="00:20:54.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So it's great.""" start="00:20:56.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I'm so glad to hear that because that's exactly the message""" start="00:20:56.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I think you should be receiving.""" start="00:21:00.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""This is a fantastic project. Thank you so much.""" start="00:21:01.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""I'll just say so myself. If the project is successful,""" start="00:21:04.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'll just say so myself.""" start="00:21:04.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: If this project is successful, are you worried about a possible split in the community between Schemacs and GNU Emacs users?""" start="00:21:07.052" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Corwin]: If the project is successful,""" start="00:21:07.052" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""are you worried about a possible split in the community""" start="00:21:08.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""between Schemacs and GNU Emacs?""" start="00:21:11.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Oh, I have thought about that.""" start="00:21:15.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: Oh, I have thought about that.""" start="00:21:15.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And I really don't know what's going to happen.""" start="00:21:18.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""There seems to be already a huge demand""" start="00:21:24.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""for a scheme-based, a modern scheme-based editor.""" start="00:21:26.240" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -831,14 +851,16 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""I'm sorry, what was the name of the library you mentioned?""" start="00:22:55.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Oh, Cairo, like Cairo.""" start="00:22:57.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Oh, Cairo, yeah. Absolutely. I spelled that poorly.""" start="00:23:01.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""The dream of never needing to change to the web browser.""" start="00:23:07.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Would schemacs bring us closer to that? I hope so.""" start="00:23:12.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: The dream of never even needing to change to the web browser - would schemacs bring us closer to that?""" start="00:23:07.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Corwin]: The dream of never needing to change to the web browser.""" start="00:23:07.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Would schemacs bring us closer to that?""" start="00:23:12.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: I hope so.""" start="00:23:17.819" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""That's also a dream of mine.""" start="00:23:18.377" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""The part of the reason why I wanted to work, you know,""" start="00:23:21.710" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""make sure I had a really good workable GUI framework""" start="00:23:26.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""is so that I could, you know,""" start="00:23:31.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""we could write apps like, you know,""" start="00:23:32.627" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""they have a mastodon client written in Emacs Lisp.""" start="00:23:34.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""they have a Mastodon client written in Emacs Lisp.""" start="00:23:34.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that would be so nice to have this, you know,""" start="00:23:38.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""a really nice Mastodon client""" start="00:23:42.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""that was right inside of, you know, our scheme environment""" start="00:23:43.440" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -853,12 +875,13 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""that's a dream of mine as well.""" start="00:24:14.760" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And so I hope that that's where we end up in a couple of years.""" start="00:24:16.920" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""The sooner the better. Anything, just double checking.""" start="00:24:20.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Anything specific other than minimalism""" start="00:24:30.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""that made you choose Scheme over Commonwealth?""" start="00:24:33.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Q: Anything specific other than minimalism that made you choose Scheme over Common Lisp?""" start="00:24:30.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""Anything specific other than minimalism""" start="00:24:30.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""that made you choose Scheme over Common Lisp?""" start="00:24:33.320" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""Oh, yeah, it's kind of a philosophical question.""" start="00:24:35.800" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So a couple of things. First of all, it was a conversation""" start="00:24:40.200" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I had with William Byrd,""" start="00:24:45.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""and he's a guy who makes the Mini Conran framework for Scheme.""" start="00:24:47.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and he's a guy who makes the miniKanren framework for Scheme.""" start="00:24:47.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""It was his PhD thesis.""" start="00:24:50.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""He worked with, I'm sorry, I just can't remember his name.""" start="00:24:52.880" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""He worked at the University of Indiana.""" start="00:24:57.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -889,15 +912,16 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""And I think we haven't even seen""" start="00:26:13.000" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""a fraction of what it can do.""" start="00:26:14.480" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""That's why I've chosen scheme.""" start="00:26:16.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Divya, I see you've got a bunch more comments.""" start="00:26:22.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Corwin]: Divya, I see you've got a bunch more comments.""" start="00:26:22.400" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I think we're just about close to our time here,""" start="00:26:24.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""but if you wanted to jump back in,""" start="00:26:26.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I'm sorry, I had to cut you off a little before.""" start="00:26:28.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""No, it's fine. No, it's fine.""" start="00:26:30.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Divya]: No, it's fine. No, it's fine.""" start="00:26:30.520" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I think I agree with most of what he said.""" start="00:26:33.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""So, yeah, thank you so much.""" start="00:26:36.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Um, closing thoughts, Ramin.""" start="00:26:40.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Yeah, I guess everybody, please, if you're interested,""" start="00:26:45.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] + +<div class="transcript-heading">[[!template new="1" text="""Closing thoughts""" start="00:26:40.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]]</div>[[!template text="""[Corwin]: Um, closing thoughts, Ramin.""" start="00:26:40.680" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: Yeah, I guess everybody, please, if you're interested,""" start="00:26:45.160" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""keep watching my Mastodon and keep watching my Codeberg.""" start="00:26:51.640" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I'm going to try and squash this bug as quickly as I can.""" start="00:26:56.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""I hope early next year,""" start="00:27:01.560" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] @@ -908,14 +932,14 @@ Captioner: sachac [[!template text="""has increased pretty rapidly recently,""" start="00:27:21.960" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and I think we're pretty close""" start="00:27:24.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""to getting something that we can all use together.""" start="00:27:25.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Thank you once again for your amazing talk,""" start="00:27:29.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Corwin]: Thank you once again for your amazing talk,""" start="00:27:29.120" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""for your exceptional work,""" start="00:27:31.720" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and for jumping in, doing the live Q&A,""" start="00:27:34.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""rolling with us here as we have yet another""" start="00:27:36.600" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""We'll See How It Goes conference.""" start="00:27:40.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text=""""we'll see how it goes" conference.""" start="00:27:40.040" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""It's been just amazing so far,""" start="00:27:42.080" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""and this talk is no small part of that. Thank you.""" start="00:27:44.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] -[[!template text="""Oh, thank you so much. Yeah. OK, cool.""" start="00:27:46.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""[Ramin]: Oh, thank you so much. Yeah. OK, cool.""" start="00:27:46.840" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] [[!template text="""And thanks for all the questions, everyone.""" start="00:27:50.280" video="qanda-schemacs" id="subtitle"]] </div>Questions or comments? Please e-mail [emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org](mailto:emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org?subject=Comment%20for%20EmacsConf%202023%20schemacs%3A%20One%20year%20progress%20update%20Schemacs%20%28formerly%20Gypsum%29) |