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diff --git a/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--answers.vtt b/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--answers.vtt index 5abfd435..0362cbc2 100644 --- a/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--answers.vtt +++ b/2025/captions/emacsconf-2025-zettelkasten--zettelkasten-for-regular-emacs-hackers--christian-tietze--answers.vtt @@ -36,6 +36,8 @@ into your Zettelkasten then. Is that what's happening? 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:49.559 Well, I can start you off. +NOTE Q: What do you use for the fancy animations? + 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:56.279 The first question is, I wonder what they use for the fancy animations. @@ -162,6 +164,8 @@ And the stack, the stack is Apple Keynote, sorry. 00:03:25.440 --> 00:03:30.079 Okay, that's enough. Thank you for capturing. +NOTE Q: Are you not a fan of using *, **, *** headings in org-mode? + 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:37.719 Are you not a fan? Okay. You saw this in the recording. @@ -196,7 +200,7 @@ It's interesting to see how people have different styles of writing org content. Am I not? What exactly? What did I do? 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:25.959 -And nodes, just open one of these. +And notes, just open one of these. 00:04:25.960 --> 00:04:33.519 Okay. I could see how you could, in examples like this, @@ -247,7 +251,7 @@ I mean, or even headings. The only heading here is the title, 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:24.279 -like in my perception of this node, +like in my perception of this note, 00:05:24.280 --> 00:05:27.159 and it's one, It's two lists. @@ -343,12 +347,12 @@ but I'm going to stop copying them in because I lose time. I want to reply to you, folks. 00:07:09.440 --> 00:07:11.479 -Didn't see a need for a rack constructor. +Didn't see a need for hierarchical structure. 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:13.719 Thank you for capturing this. Next question. -NOTE Can you use org files and all its features inside Denote? +NOTE Q: Can you use org files and all its features inside Denote? 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:17.799 Can you use org files and all its features inside Denote? @@ -369,7 +373,7 @@ And with org, you get these attributes, value attribute thingies 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:40.079 -that are then the metadata for the node. +that are then the metadata for the note. 00:07:40.080 --> 00:07:45.279 So yeah, the answer is yes. You get everything and on top, @@ -380,7 +384,7 @@ a small layer of a link, link management. 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:48.999 That's all there is. -NOTE Where or how do you like to capture fleeting notes? +NOTE Q: Where or how do you like to capture fleeting notes? 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:55.319 Next question is, where or how do you like to capture fleeting notes? @@ -419,25 +423,25 @@ isn't very descriptive. So what else do you say there? And people have said a couple of things 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:28.479 -to define non-fleeting nodes, for example, permanent nodes. +to define non-fleeting notes, for example, permanent notes. 00:08:28.480 --> 00:08:33.199 I guess that's a Sonke Ahrens, 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:35.039 -permanent nodes is the most popular. +permanent notes is the most popular. 00:08:35.040 --> 00:08:36.159 Let's stay with that, stick with that. 00:08:36.160 --> 00:08:38.279 -So if you have permanent nodes and fleeting nodes, +So if you have permanent notes and fleeting notes, 00:08:38.280 --> 00:08:41.599 -now we have two types of nodes. The thing is, in books, +now we have two types of notes. The thing is, in books, 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:46.319 -the only, when we would talk about note-taking +the only... when we would talk about note-taking 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:47.679 and you would ask me, hey Christian, @@ -458,7 +462,7 @@ I would pull out a book, this is Object-Oriented Software Engineering, 00:08:59.800 --> 00:09:03.679 -interesting book by Iva Jacobson or Iva, Iva, +interesting book by Ivar Jacobson. 00:09:03.680 --> 00:09:06.159 I'm not sure because, you know, @@ -475,26 +479,26 @@ are actual paper notes square what are these three by something inch 00:09:18.880 --> 00:09:20.999 American standard size I guess -00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:24.039 +00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:25.964 and A6 minus the tariff part -00:09:24.040 --> 00:09:29.439 -from from another notepad these are notes i took engagement notes +00:09:25.965 --> 00:09:31.174 +from another notepad. These are notes I took, engagement notes -00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.439 -if you will like engagement notes +00:09:31.175 --> 00:09:32.439 +if you will, like engagement notes, 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:34.999 -because the margins of the book don't suffice to take +because the margins of the book don't suffice to take, 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:38.799 -and this is related to i need more space so this is more space +and this is related to... I need more space, so this is more space. 00:09:38.800 --> 00:09:41.119 -these are fleeting +These are fleeting. 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:44.999 -and as you see I have them in my pile of books +As you see, I have them in my pile of books 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:46.839 right next to me in the shelf @@ -503,7 +507,7 @@ right next to me in the shelf and folded them in this piece of paper, 00:09:52.280 --> 00:09:54.879 -labeled it with the author because I lost them. +labeled it with the author because I lost them 00:09:54.880 --> 00:09:57.839 couple of times they just fell out @@ -610,6 +614,8 @@ I'm not going to talk about these 00:11:27.800 --> 00:11:29.039 unless someone asks a question. +NOTE Q: Zettelkasten feels like a very "cagey" approach to note-taking and knowledge management. Doesn't it restrict one to think in certain ways rather than what feels natural to someone? + 00:11:29.040 --> 00:11:32.119 Zettelkasten feels like a very cagey approach @@ -823,14 +829,19 @@ I'm feeling like stuck at this and that. 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:03.919 And then other people will be able to relate. -00:15:03.920 --> 00:15:10.279 -I can promise. How does it denote, question mark maybe, +00:15:03.920 --> 00:15:07.327 +I can promise. + +NOTE Q: How does denote compare to org-roam? + +00:15:07.328 --> 00:15:10.279 +How does it denote, question mark maybe, 00:15:10.280 --> 00:15:11.639 compared to org-roam? 00:15:11.640 --> 00:15:18.559 -Roam research was setting a new trend of connectiveness +Roam Research was setting a new trend of connectiveness 00:15:18.560 --> 00:15:21.119 because you could create recursive structures with links @@ -872,7 +883,7 @@ when people told their stories of how they used it. I guess you can use this tool for a lot of purposes, 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:59.199 -but the prevailing story of the Rome style note-taking tools +but the prevailing story of the Roam-style note-taking tools 00:15:59.200 --> 00:16:01.879 was like, just dump everything in it. @@ -917,15 +928,15 @@ and that many months old when you did this. So we have some reference parts. And I could put this kind 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:37.399 -of factual information, et cetera, custom, +of factual information in Zettelkasten, 00:16:37.400 --> 00:16:42.199 but also, like, what if I have a toothache or whatever, -00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:47.479 +00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:44.924 and just want to gather data for whatever reason? -00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:52.119 +00:16:44.925 --> 00:16:52.119 I don't know. Like this kind of personal stuff. 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:55.639 @@ -938,7 +949,7 @@ in a tool that I want to use to think. I do see the appeal there. 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:04.039 -But anyway, the org-roam, like that's a roam part. +But anyway, the org-roam, like that's a Roam part. 00:17:04.040 --> 00:17:05.879 You can watch a lot of videos @@ -1030,50 +1041,52 @@ but I'm very happy that org-roam still exists 00:18:21.760 --> 00:18:25.039 because I think porting tools into emacs is very cool, +NOTE Q: I noticed that the wikipedia link you wrote was typed wrongly - and it got me thinking about how to deal with broken links at scale? Do you have any thoughts on this? What about archival? + 00:18:25.040 --> 00:18:27.559 I guess next question, -00:18:27.560 --> 00:18:31.839 +00:18:27.560 --> 00:18:29.174 I noticed that the wikipedia link you wrote -00:18:31.840 --> 00:18:40.279 +00:18:29.175 --> 00:18:38.632 was typed wrongly, oh no garbage in, garbage out, -00:18:40.280 --> 00:18:45.079 -I think garbage in, garbage out, garbage well spotted +00:18:38.633 --> 00:18:45.079 +I think garbage in, garbage out, garbage well spotted. 00:18:45.080 --> 00:18:47.199 -how do you do that oh I typed it +How do you do that? Oh, I typed it 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:50.679 -I typed it from yeah right i didn't +I typed it from... Yeah, right. I didn't, 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:53.359 -i didn't paste this right yeah yeah +I didn't paste this. Right. Yeah, yeah. 00:18:53.360 --> 00:18:55.879 -this janitorial tasks that's the umbrella term +Janitorial tasks, that's the umbrella term. 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:56.839 -how do you deal with this +How do you deal with this? 00:18:56.840 --> 00:18:59.560 -like if you put stuff like this into into your notes +Like if you put stuff like this into your notes, 00:18:59.560 --> 00:19:05.759 you hopefully get a 404 code from wikipedia -00:19:05.760 --> 00:19:07.559 -because the page doesn't exist +00:19:05.760 --> 00:19:06.859 +because the page doesn't exist. -00:19:07.560 --> 00:19:11.999 -let's not check um you get a 404 and then you could write a tool +00:19:06.860 --> 00:19:11.999 +Let's now check. You get a 404, and then you could write a tool 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:13.799 that checks all the links periodically 00:19:13.800 --> 00:19:17.199 -and tells you about broken links like a broken link checker +and tells you about broken links, like a broken link checker 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.679 that then looks up maybe automatically @@ -1085,19 +1098,19 @@ the last good version on archive.org and then the Wayback Machine 00:19:23.320 --> 00:19:26.879 -and then corrects the link with the archived version +and then corrects the link with the archived version, 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:30.479 -because the live one is gone like this happens all the time on the internet +because the live one is gone. This happens all the time on the Internet. 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:31.919 -and even if you don't mistype +Even if you don't mistype, 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:35.879 -you could you know things go out of out of order so +you could... you know things go out of order so 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:42.599 -What do you do with that? You need to automate this. +what do you do with that? You need to automate this. 00:19:42.600 --> 00:19:45.119 I'm not clicking every link manually. @@ -1108,10 +1121,10 @@ I have like, what's it now, 11,000 notes or something. 00:19:49.280 --> 00:19:51.999 This is not a thing that humans are good at. -00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:52.919 +00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:52.279 I'm not good at this. -00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:55.359 +00:19:52.280 --> 00:19:55.359 I will never finish anything else if I do this manually. 00:19:55.360 --> 00:19:57.079 @@ -1133,7 +1146,7 @@ and that should help. You could automate this in Emacs, of course, right? 00:20:09.760 --> 00:20:12.479 -For every file in my node directory, +For every file in my note directory, 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:14.359 look if there's a link inside @@ -1142,7 +1155,7 @@ look if there's a link inside and then check the URL or whatever. 00:20:16.120 --> 00:20:18.319 -Also works for inter-node connections. +Also works for inter-note connections. 00:20:18.320 --> 00:20:21.239 This could also break if you rename files or remove files @@ -1169,13 +1182,13 @@ and you need to deal with mistakes and heal and create scar tissue there in some way 00:20:44.360 --> 00:20:48.279 -so write janitorial tools to do that it's also, +so write janitorial tools to do that. It's also, 00:20:48.280 --> 00:20:50.679 -i'm mentioning the term janitorial tools +I'm mentioning the term janitorial tools 00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:51.679 -a couple of times now +a couple of times now, 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:55.439 because that's the term that we in the forums at least @@ -1187,10 +1200,10 @@ usually talk about things like find orphaned notes, notes that no one links to find broken links, 00:21:02.120 --> 00:21:07.479 -clean up references reformat nodes, stuff like this. +clean up references reformat notes, stuff like this. 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:10.039 -Find large nodes and then suggest them +Find large notes and then suggest them 00:21:10.040 --> 00:21:11.799 to the user to break them up. @@ -1198,23 +1211,25 @@ to the user to break them up. 00:21:11.800 --> 00:21:14.180 Like these are tasks that you can do mechanically, -00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:21.719 +00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:16.382 but also it's better if you use a tool to get started, -00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:27.519 +00:21:16.383 --> 00:21:20.590 otherwise you waste a lot of time. -00:21:27.520 --> 00:21:35.199 +NOTE Comment: When I completely re-worked my config some two years ago, I also tried out some of these packages for making notes in Emacs... + +00:21:20.591 --> 00:21:26.632 Next question, when I complete, next long question. -00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:39.239 -I'm going to copy this over because maybe +00:21:26.633 --> 00:21:34.964 +I'm going to copy this over because maybe... -00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:42.399 -When I completely reworked my configs from two years ago, +00:21:34.965 --> 00:21:42.399 +"when I completely reworked my configs from two years ago, 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:44.839 -I also tried some of these packages for making nodes, +I also tried some of these packages for making notes, 00:21:44.840 --> 00:21:47.119 but none of them actually fit my purpose, @@ -1256,19 +1271,25 @@ when I took them time structures my thought and my notes but they would get lost if I split them up in a network 00:22:20.360 --> 00:22:22.799 -like structure like a wiki etc custom my two cents +like structure like a wiki, Zettelkasten my two cents -00:22:22.800 --> 00:22:32.239 +00:22:22.800 --> 00:22:24.715 by the way I work on legal sociological topics -00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:37.439 -i'm a lawyer by training you know Luhmann was a german german style +00:22:24.716 --> 00:22:29.452 +I'm a lawyer by training." + +00:22:29.453 --> 00:22:34.590 +You know, Luhmann was a German-style + +00:22:34.591 --> 00:22:35.632 +weird sociologist, -00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:40.999 -weird sociologist +00:22:35.633 --> 00:22:41.048 +and sociology studies are -00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:43.999 -and sociology studies are like the first four semesters at university, +00:22:41.049 --> 00:22:43.999 +like the first four semesters at university, 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:48.639 where a lot of, I don't know any of the terms in English, @@ -1289,7 +1310,7 @@ but nobody knew because they were not empirically backed. Some were empirically backed, 00:23:00.120 --> 00:23:01.959 -and then also there was some sense making. +and then also there was some sense-making. 00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:03.599 And then also in sociology, @@ -1328,7 +1349,7 @@ or whatever it was called where she just dumped everything inside 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:44.759 -for her next project like an idea box, +for her next project, like an idea box, 00:23:44.760 --> 00:23:47.279 like real physical things like oh, I want to, I don't know, @@ -1369,6 +1390,8 @@ Sorry, I jumped. So my answer is, this was not a question, 00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.799 and I'm happy for you. So that's still an answer. +NOTE Q: How Zettelkasten is useful for highly mathematical STEM academic fields like computer science or engineering fields? + 00:24:34.800 --> 00:24:38.639 Next question. How Zettelkasten is useful @@ -1432,35 +1455,35 @@ that people did over hundreds of years for you. 00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:39.479 That's an order. But there are also many textbooks. -00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:42.759 +00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:42.059 So opinions may vary. The presentation may vary. -00:25:42.760 --> 00:25:48.279 +00:25:42.060 --> 00:25:43.674 Some textbooks may click with you, -00:25:48.280 --> 00:25:59.359 +00:25:43.675 --> 00:26:04.559 while others stay opaque, and you can't get into the meat. -00:25:59.360 --> 00:26:04.599 +00:26:04.560 --> 00:26:12.919 Sorry, I'm just typing the answer right now. -00:26:04.600 --> 00:26:13.319 +00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:17.379 Copying information to another box is not, yeah. -00:26:13.320 --> 00:26:17.719 +00:26:17.380 --> 00:26:19.090 Yeah, let's see what the first answer is. -00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:21.559 +00:26:19.091 --> 00:26:21.559 Someone posted that Zettelkasten is great for mathematics, 00:26:21.560 --> 00:26:22.919 incredible for computer science. 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:25.439 -With OrgBabel you can have living source code, yes, +With Org-Babel you can have living source code, yes, 00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:26.719 -that you can execute from the node, +that you can execute from the note, 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:28.479 also true for a formula, @@ -1475,7 +1498,7 @@ You can even use Agda if you want to. Ah, I think I know who typed the answer. 00:26:39.280 --> 00:26:42.999 -Hello, Oliver. If you want to have living proofs in your nodes, +Hello, Oliver. If you want to have living proofs in your notes, 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:47.719 even inline LaTeX is in here. That's, yeah, yeah, yeah. @@ -1490,13 +1513,13 @@ maybe your own summary. I would suggest add your own summary 00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:11.299 -because we're looking at the etherpad, right? +because we're looking at the Etherpad, right? 00:27:11.300 --> 00:27:14.639 -Maybe I just copy this over so you can all the either +Maybe I just copy this over so you can all... 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:30.879 -pets indentation is missing with what Org is doing. +The Etherpad's indentation is missing with what Org is doing. 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:36.999 And the answer was probably submitted by Oliver @@ -1505,40 +1528,43 @@ And the answer was probably submitted by Oliver just in case someone wants to see 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:47.679 -who that could have been with the Acta reference +who that could have been with the Agda reference 00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:49.799 -because nobody uses Acta, +because nobody uses Agda, 00:27:49.800 --> 00:27:55.999 -nobody in the world maybe so Acta is just a yeah +nobody in the world maybe. So Agda is just a, yeah, 00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:01.319 let's say it's good for proofing the code that you type 00:28:01.320 --> 00:28:04.399 -as you type it in the compilation set very weird +as you type it in the compilation set, very weird 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.199 -if you've never heard of this so check that out +if you've never heard of this, so check that out. 00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:13.839 -so question was how Zettelkasten is useful for these kinds of things +So question was how Zettelkasten is useful for these kinds of things 00:28:13.840 --> 00:28:16.119 yeah it sounds like in these kinds of fields 00:28:16.120 --> 00:28:18.359 -that you only deal with facts +that you only deal with facts. 00:28:18.360 --> 00:28:24.719 -that's also kind of sort of true for psychology where you have a lot of +That's also kind of sort of true for psychology where you have a lot of, 00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:29.639 -and also law where you at least in at least in German +and also law, where you at least in German + +00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.011 +and our style of law where you have a lot of, -00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.759 -and our style of law where you have a lot of where you have thick books of law +00:28:32.012 --> 00:28:33.759 +where you have thick books of law 00:28:33.760 --> 00:28:38.599 and very very little records, @@ -1546,11 +1572,17 @@ and very very little records, 00:28:38.600 --> 00:28:41.479 that's not the right phrasing, -00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:48.239 -where you don't rely on the ruling as much as you do in, for example, the USA, +00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:44.540 +where you don't rely on the ruling + +00:28:44.541 --> 00:28:48.239 +as much as you do in, for example, the USA, -00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:53.919 -where you need to be aware of every court ruling to then put stuff into context +00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:52.674 +where you need to be aware of every court ruling + +00:28:52.675 --> 00:28:53.919 +to then put stuff into context 00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:58.999 and all of this is like the current how you do law. @@ -1862,13 +1894,13 @@ and you still have access to this later when you need to check your personal inventory 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:30.519 -of mathematical proofs so my answer would be +of mathematical proofs so my answer would be... 00:34:30.520 --> 00:34:33.119 -let's type in my answer +Let's type in my answer 00:34:33.120 --> 00:34:46.199 -on either pad would be I'm not able to type. +on Etherpad would be... I'm not able to type. 00:34:46.200 --> 00:34:52.599 Sorry. My answer would be this. @@ -1972,11 +2004,11 @@ and it's not just copying the thing into a box, 00:36:50.640 --> 00:36:51.759 like from one box into another, -00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:53.879 +00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:54.019 from the public internet box into my own buffer, -00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:56.399 -that's a custom that's closer to me, +00:36:54.020 --> 00:36:56.399 +that Zettelkasten that's closer to me, 00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:58.559 like a fridge is closer to my kitchen @@ -2101,26 +2133,28 @@ Just check it out for yourself. I'm not sure. 00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:40.959 Next question, sorry. +NOTE Q: In your experience, would you say that you re-use most of your notes? + 00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:45.639 -In your experience, would you say that you reuse most of your nodes? +In your experience, would you say that you reuse most of your notes? 00:39:45.640 --> 00:39:47.959 -Watching your demo, I thought that more nodes you create, +Watching your demo, I thought that more notes you create, 00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:51.279 the less you might reuse them. Yes, that's true. 00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:54.879 -I have 11,000 nodes or something, +I have 11,000 notes or something, 00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.239 -and I don't use 11,000 nodes every day. +and I don't use 11,000 notes every day. 00:39:57.240 --> 00:39:59.879 I can only use a fraction of them. 00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:06.439 -But let's say you have the Feynman Darling nodes, +But let's say you have the Feynman Darling notes, 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:08.479 then you would probably use these. @@ -2132,7 +2166,7 @@ Imagine you have the same 12 Darlings for a year. Then you use these 12 thingies for one year more often. 00:40:15.560 --> 00:40:17.919 -than most of your other nodes, +than most of your other notes, 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:19.999 because these become your entry points @@ -2167,11 +2201,11 @@ maybe these 12 Feynman darlings were your darlings 00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.719 during university studies for STEM field, -00:40:47.720 --> 00:40:49.479 +00:40:47.720 --> 00:40:49.339 where you had a hard time figuring out -00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.479 -how the technical system works for your benefit. +00:40:49.340 --> 00:40:52.479 +how the Zettelkasten works for your benefit. 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:56.279 And then five years later, you're in a job and you don't need all of them @@ -2342,7 +2376,7 @@ where do you want to put the effort? and will it pay off? maybe if not, then maybe spend the time on something else 00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:57.119 -like don't try to exactly customize something you hate +like don't try to Zettelkastenify something you hate 00:43:57.120 --> 00:43:59.519 just to I don't know, @@ -2354,13 +2388,15 @@ do your due diligence if you don't want to because then you'll hate the process 00:44:06.720 --> 00:44:15.279 -that's worse than not using nodes a lot next questions, +that's worse than not using notes a lot. Next question. + +NOTE Q: How are notes structured and accessed when the notes grow from 10K to 100K notes? 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.719 -how are nodes structured and accessed +How are notes structured and accessed 00:44:17.720 --> 00:44:20.639 -when the nodes grow from 10k to 100k nodes? +when the notes grow from 10k to 100k notes? 00:44:20.640 --> 00:44:22.119 yes, that's a field of exploration, @@ -2369,7 +2405,7 @@ yes, that's a field of exploration, I mean that the lower realm there I don't know anybody 00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:32.359 -who's using a hyperlinked 100k node archive. +who's using a hyperlinked 100k note archive. 00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:37.239 I do know people who have a lot of text files @@ -2414,10 +2450,10 @@ I'm thinking about the stuff that I'm spending time on. What about that? 00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:20.639 -Yeah, how are nodes structured and accessed +Yeah, how are notes structured and accessed 00:45:20.640 --> 00:45:22.919 -when the nodes go from one to 100k? +when the notes go from one to 100k? 00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:31.399 I will imagine that it becomes a matter that's speculation. @@ -2432,7 +2468,7 @@ it's going to be self-similar, like Mandelbrot images, where you have recursive patterns. 00:45:43.200 --> 00:45:46.519 -First, you have a couple of nodes. +First, you have a couple of notes. 00:45:46.520 --> 00:45:49.759 You can leave through them digitally or physically easily. @@ -2456,7 +2492,7 @@ And the clue there is, Eventually, you have hundreds or maybe thousands, 00:46:10.160 --> 00:46:12.359 -not hundreds or thousands, of structure nodes. +not hundreds or thousands, of structure notes. 00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:13.959 And then you have the same problem @@ -2468,13 +2504,13 @@ that you had on the lower base layer. And now you will probably look for another tool. 00:46:19.200 --> 00:46:22.759 -But there is nothing else that's not also a structure node +But there is nothing else that's not also a structure note 00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:25.799 but is structuring other structures mostly 00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:28.119 -instead of structuring the low-level nodes. +instead of structuring the low-level notes. 00:46:28.120 --> 00:46:31.719 But this distinction, I want to point out, doesn't pay off. @@ -2483,25 +2519,25 @@ But this distinction, I want to point out, doesn't pay off. it seems like it doesn't pay off 00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.319 -to say hey i have these foundational permanent nodes +to say hey I have these foundational permanent notes 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:38.759 -and then i have these meta nodes +And then I have these meta notes, 00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:40.519 -these these maps and structures +these maps and structures 00:46:40.520 --> 00:46:42.759 -and then i have these super mega structures +and then I have these super mega structures 00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:44.159 -which are not permanent +which are not permanent, 00:46:44.160 --> 00:46:45.519 -which are not structures which are not +which are not structures, which are not... 00:46:45.520 --> 00:46:47.919 -I don't know this doesn't seem to pay off +I don't know... This doesn't seem to pay off, 00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:51.079 because eventually there is another level and another level @@ -2626,6 +2662,8 @@ and then see how people transparently evolve 00:48:50.040 --> 00:48:55.159 their gardens, their processes, their note-taking systems +NOTE Q: I would be very interested in your thought on this video by Westenberg - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjSWwmg-JRM (Why I Deleted My Second Brain: A Journey Back to Real Thinking) + 00:48:55.160 --> 00:49:00.319 next question not a question but i would be very interested @@ -2633,16 +2671,16 @@ next question not a question but i would be very interested in your thoughts on this video 00:49:01.560 --> 00:49:07.039 -by westenberg okay it's it's this is not spam +by Westenberg. Okay. This is not spam. 00:49:07.040 --> 00:49:13.959 -i i don't uh there's joe westenberg's uh youtube channel +I don't... Uh, there's Joe Westenberg's Youtube channel, 00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:15.319 -why i deleted my second brain +"Why I Deleted My Second Brain: 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:22.679 -a journey back to real thinking uh +A Journey Back to Real Thinking." 00:49:22.680 --> 00:49:30.319 I think I didn't watch the video but read an article. @@ -2656,17 +2694,17 @@ It's not on screen sharing. That was stupid. 00:49:36.216 --> 00:49:48.239 I'm probably not going to watch it right now with everyone here, -00:49:48.240 --> 00:49:53.479 +00:49:48.240 --> 00:49:51.659 so my thoughts on deleting and stuff like that. -00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:58.679 +00:49:51.660 --> 00:49:58.679 I do remember there was a very cleverly written, well-written post 00:49:58.680 --> 00:50:02.719 and the claim was, from my perspective, 00:50:02.720 --> 00:50:04.919 -and that's not doing the work of +and that's not doing the work of... 00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:13.199 It's not doing the work of the author justice. @@ -2894,7 +2932,7 @@ Now we come back to one of the earlier questions, like, why do I not use outlines? 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:03.039 -Because OrgNode allows me to do outlines. +Because Org-node allows me to do outlines. 00:54:03.040 --> 00:54:06.319 Well, I try to write my notes as blog posts, @@ -3013,14 +3051,14 @@ maybe maybe they tried to do too much with a different mindset 00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:24.839 and it just didn't click and then they, -00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.199 +00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:25.519 you know next question is there a danger? -00:56:27.200 --> 00:56:41.959 +00:56:25.520 --> 00:56:34.340 also, wait a second, answer do not probably a lot of collection, -00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:52.359 -not a lot of stinking in the Zettelkasten to some purpose. +00:56:34.341 --> 00:56:52.359 +not a lot of thinking in the Zettelkasten to some purpose. 00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:58.700 Usually. Conflation was the word I was fishing for. @@ -3028,14 +3066,14 @@ Usually. Conflation was the word I was fishing for. 00:56:58.701 --> 00:57:02.840 Usually posts videos like this. -00:57:02.841 --> 00:57:10.090 -Conflate note taking as a dumping ground +00:57:02.841 --> 00:57:15.049 +Conflate note taking as a dumping ground for stuff -00:57:10.091 --> 00:57:22.174 -for stuff with something that is valuable in the long term. +00:57:15.050 --> 00:57:22.174 +with something that is valuable in the long term. 00:57:22.175 --> 00:57:27.599 -Also if this was our dear friend Westenberg +Also, if this was our dear friend Westenberg 00:57:27.600 --> 00:57:30.439 I think the note count also was higher, @@ -3070,8 +3108,10 @@ you really want to solve in the long term. 00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:59.159 So next question. +NOTE Q: Is there a danger that with the Zettelkasten process, that the process gets a bit in the way of the content? + 00:57:59.160 --> 00:58:02.359 -Is there a danger that with the settled custom process, +Is there a danger that with the Zettelkasten process, 00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:05.679 that the process gets a bit in the way of the content? @@ -3134,7 +3174,7 @@ having a title, hashtags, and content, and also being very, very careful about quoting my sources. 00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:35.639 -I don't do much with my et cetera. +I don't do much with my Zettelkasten. 00:59:35.640 --> 00:59:37.679 I cannot give up quoting my sources @@ -3148,56 +3188,56 @@ forgetting where I get ideas from and confuse. 00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:44.599 And I get out because I'm aware of the problem there. -00:59:44.600 --> 00:59:47.599 +00:59:44.600 --> 00:59:49.439 I'm also not trusting my own notes anymore. -00:59:47.600 --> 00:59:51.159 -would not be trusting my own notes anymore +00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:51.159 +I would not be trusting my own notes anymore. 00:59:51.160 --> 00:59:53.919 -i need to properly cite so then i can see hey +I need to properly cite so then I can see, hey, 00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:56.559 -this block has no quotations that's mine +this block has no quotations, that's mine, 00:59:56.560 --> 01:00:00.559 -and i can trust this it's not like hey this is maybe mine +and I can trust this. It's not like, hey, this is maybe mine, 01:00:00.560 --> 01:00:04.039 -maybe this is a verbatim quote from a book like this +maybe this is a verbatim quote from a book. Like this 01:00:04.040 --> 01:00:05.799 -is not helping that's a ceremony +is not helping. That's a ceremony 01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:09.039 -that's paying off in the long term also +that's paying off in the long term also, 01:00:09.040 --> 01:00:11.319 -so that when you write something +so that when you write something, 01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:15.159 -you have all the sources at hand +you have all the sources at hand. -01:00:15.160 --> 01:00:17.279 -that's a useful ceremony title +01:00:15.160 --> 01:00:16.882 +That's a useful ceremony. -01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:20.799 -is just a way of summarizing the content +01:00:16.883 --> 01:00:20.799 +Title is just a way of summarizing the content. 01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:25.119 -do it like an excerpt, right? +Do it like an excerpt, right? 01:00:25.120 --> 01:00:26.919 -you have the whole content, that's your etc. +You have the whole content, that's your Zettel. 01:00:26.920 --> 01:00:29.879 -do a short summary, that may be your introduction. +Do a short summary, that may be your introduction. 01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:33.239 So have a way to quickly get a glimpse of the relevance 01:00:33.240 --> 01:00:35.919 -before having to read the whole settle +before having to read the whole Zettel 01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.719 when you encounter it years from now. @@ -3212,7 +3252,7 @@ and then have an even more condensed form that's a title. The title is basically your API, 01:00:45.680 --> 01:00:49.359 -the interface for you and your nodes. +the interface for you and your notes. 01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:54.879 And it needs to uphold some kind of contract. @@ -3253,14 +3293,14 @@ titles don't always stay consistent or constant 01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:31.079 that's why I don't link by title, because I would then need -01:01:31.080 --> 01:01:34.279 -to go through my node archive and also need to go to +01:01:31.080 --> 01:01:39.299 +to go through my note archive and also need to go to -01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:39.999 -my node archive and need to correct all the links +01:01:39.300 --> 01:01:41.090 +my note archive and need to correct all the links. -01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:44.039 -that's a janitorial task I like to not do, if I can +01:01:41.091 --> 01:01:44.039 +That's a janitorial task I like to not do, if I can. 01:01:44.040 --> 01:01:49.759 So answer here, less ceremony, fewer ceremonies, plural. @@ -3269,7 +3309,7 @@ So answer here, less ceremony, fewer ceremonies, plural. Try to only do the minimum possible, minimum viable thing. 01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:57.599 -And using Emacs and D-Node, you get a lot of defaults. +And using Emacs and Denote, you get a lot of defaults. 01:01:57.600 --> 01:01:58.719 And then you need to worry @@ -3314,10 +3354,10 @@ in the search results all the time. That's not as useful as having a pathway 01:02:45.680 --> 01:02:49.559 -through your nodes that you can follow. +through your notes that you can follow. 01:02:49.560 --> 01:02:52.039 -It may not be a pathway through all of your nodes, of course, +It may not be a pathway through all of your notes, of course, 01:02:52.040 --> 01:02:56.159 but it may be a pathway from entry point into some topic. @@ -3343,8 +3383,10 @@ more or less, and then you're good. 01:03:15.240 --> 01:03:20.639 I hope. Wishing you all the best. Next and last question. +NOTE Q: How do you navigate looking at all posts with certain tags + 01:03:20.640 --> 01:03:24.519 -How do you navigate looking at all posts with a certain text? +How do you navigate looking at all posts with certain tags? 01:03:24.520 --> 01:03:26.679 This might be an emacs, already new to emacs. @@ -3352,23 +3394,23 @@ This might be an emacs, already new to emacs. 01:03:26.680 --> 01:03:28.679 I just may have answered this. -01:03:28.680 --> 01:03:40.159 -How do you navigate looking at all posts with a certain text? +01:03:28.680 --> 01:03:31.799 +How do you navigate looking at all posts with certain tags? -01:03:40.160 --> 01:03:42.959 -Let me go to my actual node archive. +01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:43.215 +Let me go to my actual note archive, -01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:55.919 -and then php no language learning ah +01:03:43.216 --> 01:03:55.919 +and then php, no, language learning, ah, 01:03:55.920 --> 01:03:59.319 -this is not my setup I'm very clumsy +this is not a nice setup. I'm very clumsy. 01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:03.119 -I'm sorry, I don't know swift language learning +I'm sorry, I don't know, swift, language learning, 01:04:03.120 --> 01:04:28.465 -ah that's that's a boring one php By this time, I could have also, +ah that's a boring one, php. By this time, I could have also, 01:04:28.466 --> 01:04:35.299 ah, there's the model. This would be an entry point @@ -3512,7 +3554,7 @@ Why do I show this when the question is about tags? Because if I search for... Which one do I take? 01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:22.719 -Let's try grep. php. Yep, grep exited the anomaly. +Let's try grep. php. Yep, grep exited abnormally. 01:07:22.720 --> 01:07:28.039 Dang, why? Option requires an argument. @@ -3611,7 +3653,7 @@ And the hashtag-based search would be I don't know what I'm looking for. It was PHP related. I hope I use the hashtag correctly 01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:36.879 -and then kill all these nodes from my archive. +and then kill all these notes from my archive. 01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:38.959 The metaphor doesn't work that way, @@ -3620,7 +3662,7 @@ The metaphor doesn't work that way, but still you get a lot of results here 01:09:41.280 --> 01:09:45.959 -and you could use this as a way to filter from 11,000 nodes +and you could use this as a way to filter from 11,000 notes 01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:53.559 down to 50 or so, maybe less. @@ -3629,10 +3671,10 @@ down to 50 or so, maybe less. And if you got this far, then you can start to do it in a mechanical way again. 01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:05.279 -But wait, if you have 100 or 1000 nodes in the results there, +But wait, if you have 100 or 1000 notes in the results there, 01:10:05.280 --> 01:10:08.279 -then you can't mechanically go through all the nodes again. +then you can't mechanically go through all the notes again. 01:10:08.280 --> 01:10:09.919 You can maybe skim and look @@ -3713,7 +3755,7 @@ but they're also not closely interrelated, you will have read five to 10 different sources that you could process. 01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:36.319 -You could maybe then also create an overview node +You could maybe then also create an overview note 01:11:36.320 --> 01:11:38.359 as a preparation for the seminar @@ -3725,7 +3767,7 @@ whatever happens at university. Then the hashtag becomes just a way to group things. 01:11:51.200 --> 01:11:52.479 -But once you create the structure node, +But once you create the structure note, 01:11:52.480 --> 01:11:55.039 you don't need the hashtags to navigate anymore. @@ -3910,17 +3952,17 @@ I think these are all the questions. 01:15:44.080 --> 01:15:47.159 I'm going to delete the leftover ones. -01:15:47.160 --> 01:15:52.439 +01:15:47.160 --> 01:15:54.719 I hope you enjoyed some of the answers. -01:15:52.440 --> 01:15:58.159 +01:15:54.720 --> 01:16:01.174 Thank you so much. Thank you. That's a lot. -01:15:58.160 --> 01:16:02.759 -We'll go back and get everything transcribed as well +01:16:01.175 --> 01:16:04.674 +We'll go back and get everything transcribed as well, -01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:08.599 -and then you can turn that into other articles in the future +01:16:04.675 --> 01:16:08.599 +and then you can turn that into other articles in the future, 01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:10.119 because that's how this all works, right? @@ -3941,7 +3983,7 @@ It's only useful to transfer language before writing, but now you can just read. 01:16:26.280 --> 01:16:29.719 -We have two people in the big blue button room +We have two people in the Big Blue Button room 01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:33.799 who are still around, but I think they've got their, like, @@ -3953,7 +3995,7 @@ they don't have microphones set up. So I don't know if you want to just, like, CryptKNFL, 01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:44.339 -if you want to just follow up through the etherpad, +if you want to just follow up through the Etherpadmp, 01:16:44.340 --> 01:16:47.639 or email, I guess, in case you have further questions. |