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+# About Blee: enveloping our own autonomy directed digital ecosystem
+Mohsen BANAN (he/him) - Pronunciation: MO-HH-SS-EN
+
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+Emacs has long been recognized as the ultimate integration platform, enabling
+the creation of an unparalleled user environment. In 2010, Tomohiro Matsuyama,
+captured this concept crisply:
+
+"The reason why Emacs platform is good is that it cooperates with OS,
+not because it is good by itself."
+
+Building on this idea, Blee (ByStar Libre-Halaal Emacs Environment) can be seen
+as yet another Emacs re-distribution, akin to Doom Emacs or Spacemacs. However,
+Blee is distinct. While Doom Emacs is multi-platform oriented, Blee is paired
+exclusively with Debian &#x2014; and on mobile, with Termux-Android. While Doom Emacs
+is Emacs-centric, Blee is digital ecosystem-centric.
+
+To further elucidate Blee, let’s break down the subtitle of this presentation:
+
+"Enveloping Our Own Autonomy Directed Digital Ecosystem With Emacs."
+
+- **"Enveloping":** Blee is designed to fully integrate and encapsulate usage of
+ an entire digital ecosystem.
+
+- **"Our Own Autonomy-Directed Digital Ecosystem":** In contrast to the
+ proprietary American ecosystems of Google, Microsoft, Meta, Apple, and Amazon,
+ Blee is part of *the Libre-Halaal ByStar Digital Ecosystem*. ByStar is ours.
+
+By\* challenges the existing proprietary American digital ecosystem while
+operating concurrently alongside it. ByStar's primary offerings are tangible
+autonomy and genuine privacy on a very large scale. ByStar represents a moral
+inversion of the proprietary American internet services model. By\* is about
+redecentralization of internet application services.
+
+Some might dismiss ByStar as an ambitious, utopian vision. In response, I’ve
+authored a book titled:
+
+------------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+<!-- <img align="right" height="230" src="https://github.com/mohsenBanan/mohsenBanan/blob/main/images/frontCover-1.jpg"> -->
+
+<p align="center"><font size="+3"><b>Nature of Polyexistentials:</font></b></p>
+
+<p align="center"><b>Basis for Abolishment of the Western Intellectual Property Rights Regime</b></p>
+
+<p align="center"><b>And Introduction of the Libre-Halaal ByStar Digital Ecosystem</b></p>
+
+
+<p align="left">On Line: &emsp; <a href="https://github.com/bxplpc/120033">PLPC-120033 at Github</a> -- <a href="https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.8003846">DOI </a>
+ --- PDF: <a href="https://github.com/bxplpc/120033/blob/main/pdf/c-120033-1_05-book-8.5x11-col-emb-pub.pdf">8.5x11</a> --
+ <a href="https://github.com/bxplpc/120033/blob/main/pdf/c-120033-1_05-book-a4-col-emb-pub.pdf">A4</a>
+<br>
+US Edition Book Prints At Amazon: &emsp; <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1960957015"> US </a> -- <a href="https://www.amazon.fr/dp/1960957015"> France </a> -- <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1960957015"> UK </a> -- <a href="https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/1960957015"> Japan </a>
+&emsp; (424 pages --- 6 x 0.96 x 9 inches)
+<br>
+International Edition Book Prints: &emsp; <a href="https://jangal.com/fa/product/252689/nature-of-polyexistentials"> Iran (Jangal Publishers) </a>
+&emsp; (406 pages --- 23.5 x 16.5 cm)
+</p>
+<p align="left">Comments, Feedback: &emsp;
+<a href="mailto:plpc-120033@mohsen.1.banan.byname.net">plpc-120033@mohsen.1.banan.byname.net</a>
+</p>
+
+------------------------------------------------------------------------
+
+Blee and Emacs are integral parts of ByStar.
+
+Analysis of digital ecosystems is inherently interdisciplinary, and so is my
+book. But, in this presenation, I won't be delving much into the philosophical,
+ethical, moral, societal, and social dimensions of the book. This presentation,
+focuses on the technical aspects of ByStar and Blee, specifically through the
+lens of Emacs users and developers.
+
+Blee’s approach to integration differs from traditional Emacs culture in three
+key ways:
+
+1. Avoiding the "Curse of Lisp": While Emacs culture emphasizes doing
+ everything in Lisp, Blee consciously avoids this pitfall.
+
+2. Cultivation of Best-of-Breeds: Emacs folklore tends to follow a laissez
+ faire approach, but Blee is disciplined around cultivation of selected best
+ of breeds.
+
+3. Digital Ecosystem Orientation: Unlike traditional Emacs, which is
+ component-focused, Blee is designed in the context of the entirety of our
+ own digital ecosystem.
+
+In ByStar, much of the integration occurs outside of Emacs, through a framework
+called BISOS (By\* Internet Services OS). BISOS builds on Debian to provide a
+unified platform for developing both internet services and software-service
+continuums. BISOS and Blee are intertwined.
+
+Now, in 2024, I am advancing Matsuyama concept with specificity:
+
+"The reason why Emacs platform is good is that it facilitates creation of
+ integrated usage environments like Blee, which cooperate with Debian, BISOS
+ and ByStar."
+
+An early version of BISOS and Blee is available for public use and
+experimentation. To get started with BISOS, Blee, and ByStar, visit
+<https://github.com/bxgenesis/start>. From a virgin Debian 12 installation
+("Fresh-Debian"), you can bootstrap BISOS and Blee in one step by running the
+raw-bisos.sh script. It produces "Raw-BISOS" which includes "Raw-Blee". You
+can then customize Raw-Blee to create different parts and aspects of your own
+ByStar DE.
+
+I welcome your thoughts and feedback, especially if you experiment with Blee,
+BISOS, ByStar, and the model and the concept of Libre-Halaal Polyexistentials.
+
+About the speaker:
+
+Mohsen Banan is a software and internet engineer. He was one of the principal
+architects of the Cellular Digital Packet Data (CDPD) network specifications. He
+is the primary author of two Internet RFCs. He is the principal architect of the
+ByStar Digital Ecosystem and BISOS and Blee. The software and internet services
+that he publicly offers all conform to the definition of Libre-Halaal Software
+and Libre-Halaal Internet Services. All of his public writings are web published
+and unrestricted. He has never applied for a patent. As an expert witness he has
+assisted in legal efforts involving invalidation of a number of patents. He has
+been using Emacs since 1986.
+
+Previous Talks: <https://emacsconf.org/2021/talks/bidi> and
+ <https://emacsconf.org/2022/talks/mail>
+
+# Discussion
+
+## Questions and answers
+
+- Q: You mentioned that there's two editions: one aimed at
+ westerners, and one for worldwide readers. I'm from Brazil, which
+ edition would you recommend? It's a western country, but you
+ didn't make the distinction exclusive for the second edition, so I
+ thought it would be better to ask.
+ - A: For everybody listening to this conference, the
+ **international** edition is the right choice.
+ - It features more aggressive stances against intellectual property
+ (being linked specifically to the American culture)
+ - There are pieces in the book where the typical American audience
+ might be offended
+ - ...But if your skin is thick enough to deal with reasonable
+ criticism, the international edition is for you.
+- Q:Thank you for this talk! How does your perspective interface with
+ works such as Yanis Varoufakis' Technofeudalism?
+ - A: Not familiar with the book.
+ - There is a lot of global growth and collective understanding
+ towards the notion that the direction we're headed in (i.e.
+ American digital ecosystems) is dangerous.
+ - We should revisit the entirety of the strategy.
+ - \[For the questioner\] Can you clarify? (I'll write to you :) )
+- Q:To what extent do you agree that the introduction of proprietary
+ systems in education creates an environment for exploitation while
+ at the same time diluting the learning value of the curriculum? My
+ computing education at school amounted to learning how to use the MS
+ Office suite - ie, the opposite of lasting, open knowledge.
+ - A: The idea is that teaching and learning should be
+ unrestricted, such as the Muslim/Iranian saying: "Passing along
+ the learning is the tax on having learnt".
+ [ The "tax" on knowledge is sharing it with others. زكات علم، آموختن آن به ديگران است. ]
+- Q:As a specific example of how "ownership is not clean", look at the
+ Star Trek Picard series: they continuously asked Patrick Stewart to
+ come do another Star Trek series but he wouldn't because Star Trek
+ changed from what it used to be, at least until it they came up with
+ a series that honored what Star Trek used to be. Does this
+ intersect?
+ - A: Not sure if I fully get the point.
+ - On my criticism of the FOSS movement:
+ - The idea is that we have jumped on the FOSS movement and
+ recognized it as an alternative, but we haven't looked
+ deeply enough to see if our own philosophy and movement have
+ problems.
+ - The problems that I note is that the FOSS movement does not
+ recognize clearly and explictly that the entirity of the
+ intellectual property system is flawed.
+ - It's only now that we are seeing the FOSS movement is
+ broader than the Western world.
+ - The labels of Free Software and Open Source are not
+ necessarily correct.
+ - We are not paying enough attention to establishing
+ relationship with society.
+ - There's a whole chapter in the book dedicated to this topic.
+ - \[To the questioner\] Clarification please
+ - The point of the question was even though a media company
+ owned Star Trek they couldn't do what they wanted with the
+ series if you involve other people. The question was also
+ open ended so you did answer it by taking it where you
+ wanted it to go.
+- Q: I am involved in Politics in my country, my party is very
+ sympathetic to FOSS ideals and I've been pushing for better policy
+ with regards to public procurement. Do you have any recommended
+ reading materials designed for such an audience?
+ - A: The idea is that my own book would be an excellent resource. I'd say the bibliography in the book contains various other pointers that could be quite useful.
+- Q: How can we promote a culture of more active thought with regard to
+ the societal impacts of ethical and philosphical choices made in the
+ wider FOSS community?
+ - A:
+
+## Notes
+
+- Am I too young to understand? Maybe I need to read the book
+ - Aah I get it!! IPR forces single ownership of what are
+ polyexistentials
+- From YouTube: ​​gnome is not halal. ​​gnome is western
+ - Did he elaborate on how GNOME is haram by his
+ definition? Oh, sorry, nevermind, the quote on GNOME isn't from
+ the speaker.
+- interesting. and - obviously - radical thoughts. not sure
+ about if Americanism critique is the core, but moreover a general
+ critique of (extreme) capitalism mechanism. but that's certainly
+ not merely a "Western" issue. imo
+- Okay, I have to admit, I love this
+ political/philosophical dissection of software's impact on
+ society.   Very interesting.
+ - It's like an extension of the GNU (free software)
+ thought. I think I need more literature on that topic\...
+ - Essentially a free, open-source and
+ privacy-respecting ecosystem akin to those provided by the big
+ tech companies (Google, Microsoft, Apple).
+- Great talk on Polyexistentials. Awesome to see
+ EmacsConf including international voices .
+- He hit the nail on the head:  This point has been on
+ my mind: Capitalism creates artificial scarcity and then
+ manufactures junk to fill it.  How can that be overcome?  So that we
+ get software that is actually needed \...
+ - I don't know if this is a problem
+ with Capitalism which can be many things to different people to
+ the point the term might not mean much. I have a problem with
+ people competing through corrosion rather than compition. For
+ example google is restricting access to google drive api making
+ everybodys app but googles worse. Capitilism "not fake
+ Capitalism" predospes a free market which would limit this
+- The blee panel actually is cool!
+- Very thought-provoking talk!
+- Dovetailing nicely / with other talks from EmacsConf 2024
+ - Working **on** Emacs vs working **for** Emacs
+ - Peter mentioned "too much choice"
+ - Mixing org-mode with programming languages
+ - org-babel has successfully integrated org-mode with all
+ kinds of languages
+ - Has happened within the context of literature programming
+ - cf. Literate Programming for the 21st Century (EmacsConf
+ 2024)
+ - Traditional programming mixed with org-mode
+ - polymode is key to that
+- Several concepts which were introduced like "dynamic blocks
+ everywhere" and "COMEEGA" would probably require other talks
+- Probably my favourite talk of the event
+- Wonderful talk!
+- This presentation gets better and better.
+- going to go checkout the book later as half way
+ thorugh the talk i got term overload
+- Great talk, great software.
+- Thank you for the presentation Mohsen.
+- while this heavy topic is certainly a major critique of
+ capitalism as such, i certainly would not mix in here any sort of
+ religion-related things. hence leveraging "Halaal" for this is
+ quite disturbing.
+- I skipped the whole thing because I suspected it would just annoy me for no other reason than that one term. (Maybe this was excessively prejudicial of me, but seriously, not my religion, I suspect I'd be unwelcome.) (maybe this is an English-specific thing, Do Not Mention Religion, because last time we mentioned it we had centuries of religious wars.)
+- Mohsen's response to the above two bullets.
+ Halaal is a very sensitive and potent word.
+ There is an entire chapter titled: "Introducing Halaal and Haraam into Globish" in the book.
+ In those 10 pages, I clarify that my use of Halaal is philosphical not religious.
+ Unfortunately the equivalent word for halaal does not exist in English.
+ Americanists, should first try to understand what halaal really means.
+- Hard topic, it feels like we are in an era of closing open-source software, eg redhat
+
+- YouTube comment: Phenomenal thinking. I will be reading the Nature of Polyexistentials
+- YouTube comment: Dude was cooking with this one 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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