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4:50 PM EST (US/Eastern)</div><div class="others"><div>which is the same as:</div>Sunday, Dec 8 2024, ~3:20 PM - 3:50 PM CST (US/Central)<br />Sunday, Dec 8 2024, ~2:20 PM - 2:50 PM MST (US/Mountain)<br />Sunday, Dec 8 2024, ~1:20 PM - 1:50 PM PST (US/Pacific)<br />Sunday, Dec 8 2024, ~9:20 PM - 9:50 PM UTC <br />Sunday, Dec 8 2024, ~10:20 PM - 10:50 PM CET (Europe/Paris)<br />Sunday, Dec 8 2024, ~11:20 PM - 11:50 PM EET (Europe/Athens)<br />Monday, Dec 9 2024, ~2:50 AM - 3:20 AM IST (Asia/Kolkata)<br />Monday, Dec 9 2024, ~5:20 AM - 5:50 AM +08 (Asia/Singapore)<br />Monday, Dec 9 2024, ~6:20 AM - 6:50 AM JST (Asia/Tokyo)</div></div><div><strong><a href="/2024/watch/gen/">Find out how to watch and participate</a></strong></div> +# Talk + +<div class="vid mainVideo"><video controls preload="none" id="mainVideo-transducers"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--main.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2024/captions/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--main.vtt" default />"""<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2024/captions/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--main--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="mainVideo-transducers" data=""" +00:00.000 Intro +00:41.520 What are transducers? +03:27.590 Common issues +05:47.280 Transducers +07:35.280 Using transducers +09:52.625 A more involved example with comp +11:49.333 In Emacs +14:29.469 Hash tables +14:58.040 Clarity +15:55.800 How do transducers work? +20:00.520 Transducers in the wild - CSV +26:03.240 Issues and next steps + +"""]]<div></div>Duration: 26:51 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--intro.vtt">Download --intro.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--intro.webm">Download --intro.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--main--chapters.vtt">Download --main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--main.json">Download --main.json</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--main.vtt">Download --main.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--main.webm">Download --main.webm (52MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--silence.webm">Download --silence.webm</a></li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/0FTBMyLkPFw">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> + +# Q&A +<div class="vid qanda"><video controls preload="none" id="qanda-transducers"><source src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--answers.webm" />captions="""<track label="English" kind="captions" srclang="en" src="/2024/captions/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--answers.vtt" default />"""<track kind="chapters" label="Chapters" src="/2024/captions/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--answers--chapters.vtt" /><p><em>Your browser does not support the video tag. Please download the video instead.</em></p></video>[[!template id="chapters" vidid="qanda-transducers" data=""" +01:09.920 Q: When I tried comparing transducers.el to cl-lib and dash (benchmark-compiled), I got the following results +05:40.840 Q: Do you know of any theoretical texts on transducers? +07:04.720 Q: Did you think about [compiler features, macros] viz your cl, fennel, elisp, porting of your transducers? +08:16.579 Q: Does t-buffer-read provide a lazy stream that's linewise, or charwise, or do something else entirely? +09:09.424 Q: Can the Elisp library be combined with the stream.el API or seq in general? +11:47.543 Q: How does one debug a t-comp expression? Can you single step and see intermediate results of the different statements you declare? +14:42.495 Q: Is there a path for transducers to enable elisp processing of otherwise overly large datasets as if just normal Emacs \"buffers\" (i.e. just pulling one thing at a time so essentially stream-like under the hood but buffer-like in interface), with none of the usual perf issues with a traditional buffer structure? +16:51.200 Q: Is there an option to read a csv/json and produce an alist or plist instead of a hash table for an entry? +17:50.520 Q: Is the common lisp version ready for 'production' use? Is it complete enough and the API stable enough? +18:17.477 Q: Do we need a pre-written \"t-\" version for every already existing reducing function like + or is there a function to construct them from already defined reducer 2-arg functions? +20:26.320 Q: Is the compelling argument for transducers is that it's a better abstraction? +22:31.960 Q: Question about how the transducers video was made? Did you use Reveal.js? Do you have a pointer to the html hosted presentation? How did you generate the content for Reveal? +24:20.160 Q: From your investigations and tests so far, do you think there would be the necessity of transducers to eventually go down into the C level code for things like using them to solve "infinitely-big" buffer-like interfaces and such? +"""]]<div>Listen to just the audio:<br /><audio controls preload="none" id="qanda-transducers-audio" src="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--answers.opus"></audio></div><div></div>Duration: 25:24 minutes<div class="files resources"><ul><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--answers--chapters.vtt">Download --answers--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--answers--main--chapters.vtt">Download --answers--main--chapters.vtt</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--answers--main.vtt">Download --answers--main.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--answers.opus">Download --answers.opus (13MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--answers.vtt">Download --answers.vtt</a> (unedited)</li><li><a href="https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/emacsconf-2024-transducers--transducers-finally-ergonomic-data-processing-for-emacs--colin-woodbury--answers.webm">Download --answers.webm (57MB)</a></li><li><a href="https://toobnix.org/w/24KYPBvSmvYmsCUC9vAW7A">View on Toobnix</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiYXvm7pPuc">View on Youtube</a></li></ul></div></div> # Description <!-- End of emacsconf-publish-before-page -->
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