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Right now we've set up everything. So if you want to + +00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:32.119 +start answering questions with your voice, we might as + +00:00:32.120 --> 00:00:33.864 +well. So OK, so I can just do it live. + +NOTE Q: When you choose colors based on the same lightness, does it not hurt readability since the eye sees lightness most? + +00:00:33.865 --> 00:00:38.239 +So one question is, so I + +00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:41.839 +assume this is a question on the lab space, where all the + +00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:46.959 +colors are the same lightness. Does it hurt readability? So + +00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:53.679 +far, I find it to be OK. For the lab theme, I picked the colors + +00:00:53.680 --> 00:01:00.999 +manually. So like I could just fix a angle essentially so + +00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:11.759 +that no colors are similar, so I have good readability. But + +00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:18.959 +for a random theme in Monte Carlo, it's hard because like + +00:01:18.960 --> 00:01:24.639 +it's just random. But yeah, that's a really good point. And + +00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:28.959 +also that's one of the motivations I did the nothing, you + +00:01:28.960 --> 00:01:33.999 +know, the great scale theme to explore just using + +00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:39.759 +lightness. Yeah. + +00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:48.199 +So looking at other questions. + +00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:52.279 +Okay, great. Do you want to take the next question. So, okay. + +NOTE Q: For monte-carlo, are all the "random" colors picked using a colorwheel/hue rotation? + +00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:56.959 +Okay, let's go to the third first. Let's finish. Yes, for + +00:01:56.960 --> 00:01:59.999 +Monte Carlo are all the random colors that using a color + +00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:06.479 +wheel here. Yes. Well, so basically, what this theme does is + +00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:14.159 +it. It picks a saturation and lightness for me first. These + +00:02:14.160 --> 00:02:19.759 +are also random, but they are picked with some kind of range. + +00:02:19.760 --> 00:02:26.559 +And that's a parameter that I can play with, you know, the + +00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:28.959 +range of lightness and separation. + +00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:33.479 +Once those are fixed, the colors are picked by angles in the + +00:02:33.480 --> 00:02:38.399 +color wheel, or heel rotation, as you would put it. So yes, + +00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:43.719 +that's roughly the process. + +NOTE Q: One area I see emacs able to do themes that is "underused?" is changing the font + +00:02:43.720 --> 00:02:47.239 +OK, great. I think the second question is still in the + +00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:51.679 +process. Oh, well, maybe you could start fielding it. I + +00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:55.319 +think you've got already something to work on. I see one area + +00:02:55.320 --> 00:03:01.199 +I see Emacs able to do. under use is changing the font, font + +00:03:01.200 --> 00:03:09.759 +size, font type, model space based on various faces. Yeah, + +00:03:09.760 --> 00:03:13.439 +so to paraphrase the question, one thing that Emacs is + +00:03:13.440 --> 00:03:17.399 +definitely not doing a whole lot of right now is changing the + +00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:21.079 +font that is being used, be it the font size, the font family. + +00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:25.039 +Sometimes you see themes, especially old mode themes, + +00:03:25.040 --> 00:03:29.199 +fontify differently the headers of the documents versus + +00:03:29.200 --> 00:03:31.879 +the content, and usually you do have a little bit of a + +00:03:31.880 --> 00:03:34.719 +contrast that is being introduced. But is it something that + +00:03:34.720 --> 00:03:38.959 +you find value in, this type of contrast based on font? And to + +00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:45.159 +me, it's my personal preference to just use one font. I don't + +00:03:45.160 --> 00:03:51.479 +even change the font size a lot in org mode. It's just + +00:03:51.480 --> 00:03:55.319 +personal preference. + +00:03:55.320 --> 00:03:58.999 +I've seen scenes where once I applied, I opened the org doc + +00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:04.639 +and suddenly all the titles are like Serif or some fancy + +00:04:04.640 --> 00:04:12.759 +fonts. That works. And to me, again, it's a personal + +00:04:12.760 --> 00:04:16.919 +preference that I don't really like that, but I know a lot of + +00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:21.799 +people like that. So it's up to you, I guess. Yeah, I mean, + +00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:25.839 +this, as we've seen in your talk and as well as the previous + +00:04:25.840 --> 00:04:29.279 +one we had this morning, you know, themes are very personal + +00:04:29.280 --> 00:04:33.079 +and at the end, whatever you need to, you know, some people + +00:04:33.080 --> 00:04:35.799 +are going to need more contrast than others, some people are + +00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:37.999 +going to need a little more variety in the fonts that they + +00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:41.359 +use. Ultimately, it's up to you really what you want to use. + +00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:45.199 +The end point, the angle that one should be aiming for is to + +00:04:45.200 --> 00:04:49.039 +feel comfortable in what they're editing. And whether this + +00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:52.799 +comfort translates into a very barebone color theme like + +00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:56.319 +the one we saw this morning with very slight colors but still + +00:04:56.320 --> 00:04:59.079 +which has a lot of personality or perhaps something closer + +00:04:59.080 --> 00:05:04.279 +to yours which tends to use equal luminance or lightness for + +00:05:04.280 --> 00:05:07.879 +the different entries. Well, everyone needs to tune in and + +00:05:07.880 --> 00:05:13.959 +find whatever works best for them, I think. Yep. And also, I + +00:05:13.960 --> 00:05:18.479 +want to note, I actually have a personal rule. It's also in + +00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:24.479 +all my themes. It's that comments have to be italic. I just + +00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:31.999 +like the look of italic comments. So, I actually... So, if + +00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:37.799 +you... In one of the section in the video, I mentioned I have + +00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:41.959 +hooks. Maybe I didn't mention, but I have hooks when using + +00:05:41.960 --> 00:05:47.359 +the picking the random theme setup. One of the purpose of + +00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:52.359 +that hook is I can add italic to all the themes on the comment + +00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:58.999 +face. Which I don't think it works actually right now, but + +00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:02.679 +that's the intention. Yeah, but I think it answers the + +00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:05.879 +question we started on originally. Because changing the + +00:06:05.880 --> 00:06:11.559 +font, I mean, using the italic variant of the font, it's + +00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:14.119 +literally a different font. And so, being able to have this + +00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:17.479 +type of contrast is actually important for you. So, it's + +00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:20.839 +nice that you managed to find this particular bit of + +00:06:20.840 --> 00:06:25.519 +knowledge through experimentation. And also I want to add + +00:06:25.520 --> 00:06:30.719 +that if you pick a monospace font like I do, usually there's + +00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:37.439 +not a lot of... Creativity? No, that's not the word. It's a + +00:06:37.440 --> 00:06:45.639 +lot of personality in the regular font part. But people do + +00:06:45.640 --> 00:06:51.799 +put a lot of different things in the italic. So yeah, if you + +00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:55.999 +can find a way to utilize the italic face, you could see some + +00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:01.239 +interesting results. Yeah, definitely. Again, I think + +00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.719 +it's important to consider all the things you can play with + +00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.519 +in terms of contrast. Because at the end of the day, you know, + +00:07:06.520 --> 00:07:08.839 +some people are going to be more receptive to a change of font + +00:07:08.840 --> 00:07:11.639 +than change of color. You know, just considering the amount + +00:07:11.640 --> 00:07:14.439 +of people who are colorblind and who are using software like + +00:07:14.440 --> 00:07:19.279 +this. You know, sometimes your vision optimizes for + +00:07:19.280 --> 00:07:22.039 +particular kind of changes and some people are going to be + +00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:26.279 +more sensitive to a slanted eye than they would be to an eye + +00:07:26.280 --> 00:07:31.479 +that is red or an eye that is blue. So, But it's not for + +00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:31.999 +everyone. + +00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:37.519 +So I'm looking at the time and we have about eight minutes + +00:07:37.520 --> 00:07:38.839 +until we go into the next talk. + +00:07:38.840 --> 00:07:44.519 +To be frank, I don't think I've got any more questions on my + +00:07:44.520 --> 00:07:46.879 +end. I'm not sure if we've got any people on BBB who has joined + +00:07:46.880 --> 00:07:49.119 +us and would like to ask a question. Let me check on IRC + +00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:53.799 +quickly if we've got any questions coming our way. I don't + +00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:57.199 +see any. Do you see any on your end? + +00:07:57.200 --> 00:08:06.479 +Not really. Well, then I suggest we just leave it at that and + +00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:08.679 +enjoy a little break before the next chat. So, thank you so + +00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:11.559 +much Metrowind for coming to EmacsConf and talking about + +00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:14.399 +colors because, as you saw, many people are interested + +00:08:14.400 --> 00:08:17.199 +about them, so much that another person decided to have a + +00:08:17.200 --> 00:08:20.639 +chat about theme. We didn't plan for this, but it's nice to + +00:08:20.640 --> 00:08:23.959 +see. And, well, perhaps you could collaborate in the future + +00:08:23.960 --> 00:08:26.919 +and both find the mutual confidence that you need to push + +00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:29.799 +your stuff to Melpa. Because I did hear that you weren't + +00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:33.119 +feeling too confident about your random color theme + +00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:37.439 +package. But, you know, you've done the first step, which is + +00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:40.559 +talking about it and sharing it with all of us. And perhaps + +00:08:40.560 --> 00:08:42.759 +the next step is to actually clean up the code to your + +00:08:42.760 --> 00:08:47.959 +satisfaction and publish it eventually. Oh, I can see + +00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:53.460 +another question. Should we go to that? Sure. + +NOTE Q: Have you ever kept any of the random themes that were thrown up? + +00:08:53.461 --> 00:08:54.079 +Have you ever + +00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:59.719 +kept any of the random themes that were thrown up? So I assume + +00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:05.119 +this is for the Monte Carlo setup. The answer is no. The + +00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:09.999 +reason is, like I mentioned, I'm using the randomly picking + +00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:15.079 +a theme setup right now. And Monte Carlo is one of them. Now, + +00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:18.639 +when Emacs picks Monte Carlo by chance, I wouldn't know + +00:09:18.640 --> 00:09:23.239 +about it. So I wouldn't know this is my random theme. That's + +00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:28.839 +the reason I never kept any, like, good color schemes + +00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:34.959 +generated. So, no. Right, okay. Well, considering we don't + +00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:37.359 +have any further questions, what I suggest now is that we'll + +00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:40.239 +leave it at that. So, again, Metrowind, thank you so much. + +00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:43.079 +Thank you. And hopefully we'll hear more of your themes in + +00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:51.120 +the future. Cool. Thanks. All right. Bye bye. Bye bye. |