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+# REPLs in strange places: Lua, LaTeX, LPeg, LPegRex, TikZ
+Eduardo Ochs - IRC: edrx, edrx <http://anggtwu.net/>, <mailto:eduardoochs@gmail.com>
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+Many years ago, when I started programming, my dream was to write
+games. I failed miserably in that, but I became fascinated by
+languages, and I discovered Forth - that was perfect for writing
+languages whose syntax was as simple as possible. Then I switched to
+GNU/Linux and I had a series of favorite languages; at some point I
+discovered Lua, that became not only my favorite language but also my
+favorite tool for implementing other languages. One of the main
+libraries of Lua is something called LPeg, that lets "people"
+implement complex parsers in just a few lines of code using PEGs -
+Parsing Expression Grammars.
+
+I've put the "people" in the last paragraph between quotes because for
+many years I wasn't included in the "people who can implement complex
+parsers with LPeg"&#x2026; lots of things in LPeg didn't make sense to me,
+and I couldn't visualize how it worked. Something was missing - some
+diagrams, maybe?
+
+The main tool for drawing diagrams in LaTeX is something called TikZ,
+that is HUGE - its manual has over 1000 pages. TikZ includes lots of
+libraries and extensions, and each one of these libraries and
+extensions extends TikZ's core language with some extra constructs.
+
+I don't know anyone - except for a handful of experts - who knows what
+is the "core language" of Tikz, that lies, or that should lie, below
+all these extensions&#x2026; all of my friends who use TikZ are just
+"users" of TikZ - they've learned some parts of TikZ by starting with
+exemples, and by then modifying these examples mostly by trial and
+error. In particular, no one among my friends knows how styles in TikZ
+really work; styles are implemented using "keys", that are hard to
+inspect from a running TeX - see [1] - and I found the chapter on "key
+management" in the manual very hard to understand. It feels as if
+something is missing from it&#x2026; some diagrams, maybe?
+
+In my day job I am a mathematician. I work in a federal university in
+Brazil, and besides teaching I do some research - mostly in areas in
+which the papers and theses have lots of diagrams, of many different
+kinds, and in which people use zillions of different programs to draw
+their diagrams. Every time that I see those diagrams I think "wow, I
+<span class="underline">need</span> to learn how to draw diagrams like that!", but until a few
+months ago this seemed to be impossible, or very hard, or very
+painful&#x2026;
+
+This presentation will be about a point in which all these ideas
+intersect. I am the author of an Emacs package called eev, that
+encourages using REPLs in a certain way; Lua can be used in several
+different styles, and if we use it in a certain way that most people
+hate - with lots of globals, and with an implementation of OO that
+makes everything inspectable and modifiable - then it becomes very
+REPL-friendly; there is an extension of LPeg called LPegRex ([2],
+[3]), that I found promising but hard to use, so I rewrote some parts
+of it to make them more REPL-friendly, and to make it print its ASTs
+in 2D ASCII art. The core of my presentation will be about how I am
+using REPLs written in Lua to write grammars, parsers, and tools to
+generate many kinds of diagrams, and how I am using these diagrams to
+document both my own code and other people's programs - the parts of
+them in which some diagrams seem to be missing. My hope is that people
+will find these ideas easy to port to other languages besides Lua, to
+other tools for generating diagrams besides LaTeX - SVG, maybe? - and
+to other ways to use REPLs in Emacs besides eev. Some ideas in this
+presentation were inspired by the blog post [4].
+
+[1]
+<https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/663740/alternative-to-edef-c-pgfkeys-a>
+[2] <https://github.com/edubart/lpegrex>
+[3] <https://github.com/edubart/lpegrex/blob/main/parsers/lua.lua>
+[4] <https://ianthehenry.com/posts/my-kind-of-repl/>
+
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