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He will not be able to answer questions right now, but you can post questions in the pad and he can +follow up after the event. + + +# Discussion + +## Questions and answers + +- Q: Which changes in recent Emacs releases are you enjoying using? + - A: I have really liked the visual-line-mode. I'm not sure how + recent that is. Some of these features I've discovered quite + late. The new display-line-number-mode, much faster. Native + compilation. I do a lot of stuff in Emacs. Native compilation + has brought the experience much closer to a modern app. +- Q: What do you think the future in the area of artificial + intelligence from the developer point of view? + - A: I do use xinside Emacs quite a bit when doing development in + other languages. Ex: working on ledger, haven't done a lot of + C++ lately. Ex: comparing strings only up to the length of the + shortest string. I think in terms of developer assistance, not + having to keep all the libraries in memory... Like Rosetta Code + (<https://rosettacode.org/wiki/Rosetta_Code>). That's a great + database - code in different languages. +- Q: What is the future of Emacs on macOS? I understand that there are + too few developers for the platform. Is that still true? + - A: I do not know exactly what the state of Emacs development on + macOS is, but I have never suffered in any way, using Emacs on + the Mac for decades. +- Q:Why aren't you contributing to Emacs anymore? Lack of time, I + guess? + - A: Lack of free time + - Draft? (story about describing what he wanted, and then someone + ran it through ChatGPT and sent him Emacs Lisp code) <- ChatGPT + example, may increase the efficiency of my free time + - What was the language that you code in now? +- Q: One of the tricky things about running emacs on android is do you + use anything that requires extra packages ex, pdf-tools with + mupdf? - org-roam with a database - playing music or video with mpd + or mpv and bonga, elfeed. Do you run emacs turmux, Emacs apk, emacs + in virtaul machine??? This is also the case on Emacs for windows but + to a lesser degree + - A: (zaeph) We'll put a pin in this for Stefan afterwards. +- Q: Will AUCTeX some day become the default TeX mode in Emacs? And, + if so, when? :) + - A: The downside of moving to core is that your release cycle is + slowed down because you have to go through emacs-devel and the + devel team. So it seems to be up to AUCTeX developers. This can + be troublesome if a package develops rapidly. +- Q: Do you use other IDEs for theorem proving work, notably VS Code + for LEAN? Which languages and provers can/do you use Emacs for? + - A: I have always used Emacs. +- Q: Can we see that AI-generated "Drafts"-like code anywhere? + - A: + <https://github.com/jwiegley/dot-emacs/commit/ab27998dee4cb92c6f660b434b32582e3d2842f9#r113795175> +- Q: Wait, just a quick search over "Draft". Does that mean you're + not using Org anymore? + - okay, I am good now :) +- Q: Speaking of which, do you ever hit the walls in terms of + multithreading issues, and if so when doing what / in what cases? +- Q: was [perl-mode] just abandonned or did cperl bring a new design ? + - Not the speaker: I think someone just started a separate cperl-mode (based on c-mode) and many of us found it worked better, so switched to it. + +## Notes + +- Emacs 29 has been quite a success so far, 29.2 to be released soon +- Thinking about starting Emacs 30 release cycle (emacs-30 will be cut + and development will be frozen with only bugfixes going in); could + take some time +- Not a huge number of changing features, but still some interesting + things +- Android support - native Emacs on a tablet, etc. +- Much better support for touchscreen devices (laptops and tablets) + Interesting, the original design of Hyperbole anticipated iPad-like + devices with each node of information represented by a rounded + square and interconnected in a knowledge graph like Org-roam does, + so maybe we'll do some work in that direction. +- There will be some support for LL(?) +- perl-mode -> cperl-mode +- byte-compiler will warn about more questionable constructs: empty + macro bodies, etc. +- Stefan Kangas is a new co-maintainer (and he'll be giving the next + talk live) +- Thanks John for all the news on Emacs and informative answers. + + +[[!inline pages="internal(2023/info/devel-after)" raw="yes"]] + +[[!inline pages="internal(2023/info/devel-nav)" raw="yes"]] + + |