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diff --git a/2023/info/windows-after.md b/2023/info/windows-after.md index 8395f710..2a9eb0ac 100644 --- a/2023/info/windows-after.md +++ b/2023/info/windows-after.md @@ -1,6 +1,791 @@ <!-- Automatically generated by emacsconf-publish-after-page --> +<a name="windows-mainVideo-transcript"></a> +# Transcript (unedited) + +[[!template text="""Oh, wow, how exciting. Well, maybe I should share something then. Um, well, thank you very much and welcome to uh""" start="00:00:00.000" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Welcome to my talk i'm a little distracted here""" start="00:00:11.440" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I had a friend who came over and just brought me a whole bunch of peanut butter cups homemade peanut butter cups""" start="00:00:13.760" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Maybe i'll show those off. Uh""" start="00:00:20.080" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""later""" start="00:00:22.320" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, what okay here, uh, put it right there""" start="00:00:23.360" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All good stuff""" start="00:00:30.960" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, so i'm going to uh get over to my planned uh stuff i'm sharing here""" start="00:00:33.920" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""hopefully""" start="00:00:41.340" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Uh, and and we'll jump jump right in because i'm gonna need as much time as I can possibly have today""" start="00:00:42.880" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""thanks so much for uh joining me for emacs conference and for""" start="00:00:49.440" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""especially for""" start="00:00:54.620" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""um""" start="00:00:56.480" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""all of you who who participated, you know in the discussions contributing talks and""" start="00:00:57.600" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""um, you know, uh, you know, including running the copy the the and it's just so much fun to be here, um""" start="00:01:03.520" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I guess while i'm standing here and and saying stuff that's that i'm gonna have to""" start="00:01:11.040" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""transcribe because I didn't uh prepare a""" start="00:01:16.620" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""recorded version""" start="00:01:20.560" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Uh, I had a lot of trouble trimming this down so I can solve that problem by just talking a lot at the beginning""" start="00:01:22.080" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""about other stuff, um""" start="00:01:28.960" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""So in addition to the thanks I just want to say thanks also to the""" start="00:01:33.200" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Folks on the development list that helped me kind of come up to speed on this. I won't make a big list here. But""" start="00:01:37.120" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""um""" start="00:01:43.760" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""And and for all that i've learned from my previous conferences""" start="00:01:45.120" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""It's just I can't stress enough what a great opportunity volunteering for""" start="00:01:48.640" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""uh free software related things are""" start="00:01:53.520" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Uh as a way to get involved people will just totally teach you how to be helpful and i'm loving it""" start="00:01:55.920" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Sasha can you please maximize?""" start="00:02:00.720" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Hold on""" start="00:02:02.880" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I can preview the stream, but it's not super easy right now""" start="00:02:14.160" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I got all my screens kind of dedicated to other stuff""" start="00:02:17.760" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""so should I pause for a second before I get into the slides because there's""" start="00:02:20.400" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""There they'll be hard to see if i'm not full screen""" start="00:02:24.960" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Yeah, yeah, okay, well i'll keep ad-libbing then because I just have a million, uh things I can say, um""" start="00:02:28.640" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Uh, so, uh, let me just quickly talk, uh things that aren't in here. Um,""" start="00:02:37.520" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""I'm going to mention the mysis2.org and the that project which provides a port""" start="00:02:43.840" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""of the GNU""" start="00:02:51.360" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Of uh glibc and a lot of GNU""" start="00:02:53.440" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""and other free software""" start="00:02:58.640" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""um, so""" start="00:03:01.280" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Uh, I don't pushing a room to uh a dvd room to stefan""" start="00:03:03.280" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, so i'm gonna take mumble out of my uh, pardon me folks just gonna take mumble out of my speakers here""" start="00:03:12.080" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay""" start="00:03:19.620" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Okay, in fact we'll take the speakers out of play entirely and i'll just switch to some headphones""" start="00:03:22.820" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""All right, so""" start="00:03:33.620" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Gorman you're good to go""" start="00:03:35.140" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Perfect. What an amazing amount of time. All right. So thanks a lot. Uh today i've got a jam-packed talk""" start="00:03:36.820" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um, i've i've done my best to make""" start="00:03:43.860" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""To make this not too overwhelming, but overall we're going to try to try to actually build""" start="00:03:46.820" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um emacs while we're talking today and we might actually build several emacs""" start="00:03:52.900" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Uh, so let's take a look at that real quick""" start="00:03:58.100" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Um, so over here we have a screen where I am""" start="00:04:00.420" video="mainVideo-windows" id="subtitle"]] +[[!template text="""Just once a minute looking. 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