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+<a name="web-qanda-transcript"></a>
+# Q&A transcript (unedited)
+
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: 2 seconds. And I think we are live.""" start="00:00:04.740" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Hi Yuchen, how are you doing?""" start="00:00:05.980" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: I'm gonna just walk off.""" start="00:00:08.720" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I'm not sure if I... Yeah,""" start="00:00:10.840" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I mean, brain not working well at this""" start="00:00:13.440" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""moment. How about you?""" start="00:00:14.660" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: Well, mine is about to get fried because""" start="00:00:18.420" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""EmacsConf is a very taxing process and I can""" start="00:00:21.040" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""tell you we could have a race to know who's""" start="00:00:24.599" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""more more tired right now between you and""" start="00:00:26.720" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""myself but I guess we'll find out at the end""" start="00:00:29.480" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: All right, sounds good.""" start="00:00:32.080" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: of the Q&A. And thank you for...""" start="00:00:34.200" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""How late or how early I should say is it for""" start="00:00:37.760" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""you right now? It should be like 6am or""" start="00:00:39.480" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Thanks. It's 7.45 but I normally get up at""" start="00:00:43.860" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""like 8.30 or something.""" start="00:00:45.020" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: something? Right, okay.""" start="00:00:46.560" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Well, anyway, thank you for the sacrifice""" start="00:00:48.380" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""just to answer some of the questions.""" start="00:00:50.200" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""All right, so I'll be displaying the""" start="00:00:56.160" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""questions. I'll be, let me just maximize this""" start="00:00:59.180" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""on the stream so that people can read""" start="00:01:01.440" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""everything on my screen.""" start="00:01:02.280" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""So what I'm going to do,""" start="00:01:03.400" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Yuchen, as usual, I'm going to start reading""" start="00:01:05.340" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""the questions on the pad.""" start="00:01:06.540" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I'm going to ask Sasha to open the Q&A.""" start="00:01:12.160" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Yes, it's already open.""" start="00:01:13.620" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Cool. So if you want to join us,""" start="00:01:15.280" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""people, Feel free to click on the link on the""" start="00:01:19.360" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""talk or on IRC to join us on BBB and to ask""" start="00:01:21.820" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""your questions. Otherwise just leave them on""" start="00:01:23.440" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""the pad. Alright, Yuchen,""" start="00:01:24.320" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""starting with the first question.""" start="00:01:25.440" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I like the idea of using org-mode to display""" start="00:01:28.260" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""data from the web. Are there many different""" start="00:01:30.300" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""packages that do not, I assume.""" start="00:01:33.220" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I'm new to Emacs, so maybe this is obvious to""" start="00:01:35.560" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""everyone else.""" start="00:01:36.040" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Yeah, I think so. I mean...""" start="00:01:43.860" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: Yeah, I think it's a little complicated to""" start="00:01:49.240" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""specify what is it to display data from the""" start="00:01:51.480" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""web. Just reading it like this,""" start="00:01:53.360" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I'm reminded of Adam, Arthur Pappa,""" start="00:01:55.900" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I mean, Code All Capture Web,""" start="00:01:58.260" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""which technically captures the web and allows""" start="00:02:00.860" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""you to embed it in the page,""" start="00:02:02.120" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""but is it really displaying data from the""" start="00:02:04.280" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""web? Are we implying live transmission?""" start="00:02:06.340" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Do you see what I'm talking about?""" start="00:02:07.720" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Yeah, I suspect the question is asking,""" start="00:02:10.680" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""like, having Emacs as a client that's sort of""" start="00:02:17.040" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""getting data from the web and then displays""" start="00:02:19.740" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""in Emacs, like using API or using web script.""" start="00:02:25.120" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""So yeah, like the hreader package or a few""" start="00:02:35.220" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""packages mentioned in my talk.""" start="00:02:37.580" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Yeah, that's a good question.""" start="00:02:39.920" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I mean, I really don't know how many.""" start="00:02:46.220" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""So from my experience,""" start="00:02:48.060" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""maybe I use like 10, less than 10 packages""" start="00:02:55.960" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""that do these things. And among these""" start="00:03:01.220" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""packages, maybe it's half of them are org,""" start="00:03:03.840" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: So you mean half of them are org-based?""" start="00:03:09.480" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Is that what you said?""" start="00:03:10.840" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: half of them don't. Yeah,""" start="00:03:11.840" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""but that's just based on the packages I use.""" start="00:03:16.920" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I haven't done a survey about this.""" start="00:03:22.440" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: I think it's okay, you don't need to have all""" start="00:03:25.520" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""the answers. I mean, you already demonstrate""" start="00:03:26.880" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""a lot of competence and you talk about all""" start="00:03:29.380" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""the things you approach with your particular""" start="00:03:31.100" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""setup, So you don't need to have all the""" start="00:03:33.040" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""answers. Okay. All right,""" start="00:03:36.040" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""moving on to the next question.""" start="00:03:37.160" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Have you tried EAF, i.e.""" start="00:03:39.340" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""The Emacs application framework and its""" start="00:03:41.680" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""browser? If yes, what is your opinion about""" start="00:03:43.940" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""it?""" start="00:03:44.120" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Oh, I haven't tried it.""" start="00:03:47.520" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I try to remember why I haven't tried it.""" start="00:03:53.760" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""It has a browser. I assume the browser""" start="00:04:03.520" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""executes JavaScript by default.""" start="00:04:06.840" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I have to check. Emacs.daf""" start="00:04:12.320" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""slash daf browser.""" start="00:04:15.820" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: It's also OK if you want to have a look later""" start="00:04:25.520" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and you know whenever you want to report to""" start="00:04:27.380" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""the pad you know you write a little blurb""" start="00:04:28.940" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Yeah sure yeah so yeah I know about EAF but I""" start="00:04:34.700" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""haven't tried it.""" start="00:04:35.460" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: about it. Okay well that's already an answer""" start="00:04:38.060" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""that's cool. We're gonna move on to a""" start="00:04:41.400" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""question that is a little bit off topic,""" start="00:04:42.720" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""but I've also been interested about your""" start="00:04:44.700" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""nickname on IRC. This is not really relevant""" start="00:04:47.420" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""to the talk, quoting the question,""" start="00:04:48.900" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""but I'm curious about your nickname.""" start="00:04:50.400" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""You have some connection to Norway.""" start="00:04:52.020" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Your nick indicates an interest in the""" start="00:04:54.480" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""architectural style inspired by the""" start="00:04:56.040" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""decoration on Viking ships that was popular""" start="00:04:58.280" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""in the early 20th century because""" start="00:05:00.460" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Dragonsteel, I assume in Norwegian,""" start="00:05:01.880" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""is Dragon style. Are you familiar with this?""" start="00:05:04.860" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Yeah, it's just my favorite architecture""" start="00:05:10.760" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""style, I think. I mean,""" start="00:05:15.560" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I lived in Sweden for like 2,""" start="00:05:19.040" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""1 half years and yeah I went to Norway once""" start="00:05:25.900" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and I saw like this church in Lofoten Island,""" start="00:05:32.520" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: was amazing. In Luton Island,""" start="00:05:36.766" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""on Luton Island. Right.""" start="00:05:36.820" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: on Lofoten Island. Yeah it Yeah,""" start="00:05:36.833" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""it was amazing. So, yeah,""" start="00:05:40.280" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""that's exactly why I chose that as my""" start="00:05:43.780" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""nickname, because it's my favorite""" start="00:05:46.520" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""architecture style.""" start="00:05:47.540" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: Okay, well, that was a very astute remark by""" start="00:05:51.940" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""the viewers, so I hope you feel validated in""" start="00:05:54.760" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 0]: assumptions. Moving on""" start="00:05:58.480" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: your to another question.""" start="00:05:58.980" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Yuchen, do you have any thoughts about Nixed,""" start="00:06:01.960" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""about its name, its approach,""" start="00:06:03.880" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""its relevance? About Nixed,""" start="00:06:08.560" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""the browser, N-Y-X-T. Oh,""" start="00:06:11.500" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Nixed.""" start="00:06:11.720" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: About what? Yeah, I have tried it.""" start="00:06:17.220" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Well, I mean, it's not Emacs.""" start="00:06:21.360" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""It's kind of similar. I think it tries to do""" start="00:06:26.140" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""something similar to Emacs,""" start="00:06:27.440" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""So what was the problem?""" start="00:06:51.200" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""So yeah, I couldn't even do that.""" start="00:06:53.040" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""There shouldn't be any issues with setting up""" start="00:07:02.660" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""whatever key binding you want.""" start="00:07:03.960" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""do when I tried to bind Ctrl S Ctrl R to the""" start="00:07:15.400" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""So when I do both these prompt mode binding""" start="00:08:33.320" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""Yeah, the prompt no longer works.""" start="00:08:39.960" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""And I reported the bug to Nixt.""" start="00:08:43.840" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""And yeah, and there was response but there""" start="00:08:50.500" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""and I don't think that bug is very high""" start="00:08:55.640" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: Right, but, sorry, please finish.""" start="00:09:07.600" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: me. Yeah, so I mean, yeah,""" start="00:09:15.620" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""without key bindings I can't like,""" start="00:09:17.320" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I won't. So, okay, I feel this is a very""" start="00:09:23.940" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: Without key bindings, they are.""" start="00:09:31.220" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: continue trying what These are pieces.""" start="00:09:32.020" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: It reminds me of 2 points.""" start="00:09:34.200" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""So yesterday with Stefan we were talking""" start="00:09:35.840" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""about sane defaults and when he was sleeping""" start="00:09:37.540" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""today we talked about it again with a""" start="00:09:39.440" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""speaker. We did the mentor talk.""" start="00:09:41.400" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Feel free to re-watch it afterwards.""" start="00:09:43.020" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""But it's funny how, you know,""" start="00:09:48.320" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""obviously, it's built with a Vim mentality""" start="00:09:58.620" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and modality of key bindings.""" start="00:10:02.020" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""And for us, we are more used to the Emacs way""" start="00:10:05.860" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""of doing things. It's a complete blocker.""" start="00:10:08.040" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""No matter how great the pieces of""" start="00:10:10.320" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""just the fact that UX-wise we cannot get into""" start="00:10:15.060" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""it or we cannot have it behave nicely with""" start="00:10:18.220" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""what we do. It's a massive block that is""" start="00:10:20.280" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""preventing appropriation of such tools.""" start="00:10:22.040" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""So it might seem very basic to bounce a""" start="00:10:25.940" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""package at the level of key bindings but""" start="00:10:28.300" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""that's what we all do.""" start="00:10:29.620" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Yeah, I totally agree.""" start="00:10:32.800" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: Right, if I can just interrupt,""" start="00:10:36.180" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""we have about 2 more minutes of questions and""" start="00:10:38.520" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I see people are writing more questions.""" start="00:10:40.940" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Did you want to add something,""" start="00:10:42.180" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Yucheng? On what we're saying?""" start="00:10:43.780" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: No, no, no, Let's continue.""" start="00:10:47.620" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: had plenty of time. Okay,""" start="00:10:51.340" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I'm going to ask you to be quick about this""" start="00:10:53.100" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""1. I'm going to read the question,""" start="00:10:53.860" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""which is slightly long,""" start="00:10:54.620" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""and you're going to have about 30 seconds to""" start="00:10:56.320" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""answer it. Do you feel capable of this?""" start="00:10:57.720" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: I thought we Yeah, let's try it.""" start="00:10:59.860" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: Let's try it. At least try it.""" start="00:11:02.860" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Okay, so quoting, I find the JavaScript trap""" start="00:11:05.208" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""almost impossible to avoid since I like to""" start="00:11:06.680" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""buy used stuff online and use my online bank.""" start="00:11:10.360" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""How do you deal with a JavaScript trap?""" start="00:11:13.140" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I use NoScript and compromise on a few things""" start="00:11:15.400" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I really feel I cannot live without.""" start="00:11:16.760" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""EWW is nice for a lot of things,""" start="00:11:19.080" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""especially with R for less noise,""" start="00:11:21.260" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""but I need Firefox for those GS and trapped""" start="00:11:23.760" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""pages. So do you have a quick answer to this?""" start="00:11:25.760" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Yeah, I don't have a good answer,""" start="00:11:29.500" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""but I have a quick answer.""" start="00:11:30.640" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""So I use VPN and like a more,""" start="00:11:38.140" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""what do you call it, move out the Swedish VPN""" start="00:11:41.680" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""browser, move out browser.""" start="00:11:43.480" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Yeah, so I unfortunately I have to use""" start="00:11:48.960" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""JavaScript in these cases as well,""" start="00:11:50.660" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""but I try to minimize the use of these""" start="00:11:53.800" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""things.""" start="00:11:54.020" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: How long do you think it will take for us to""" start="00:11:56.920" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""save the world with Emacs,""" start="00:11:58.140" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""or save the web at least?""" start="00:11:59.340" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""5 years, 10 years, maybe a little less than""" start="00:12:01.360" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""this?""" start="00:12:01.560" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Well I think it's, unfortunately it's""" start="00:12:06.600" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""probably independent of Emacs,""" start="00:12:08.300" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""like it will only be saved when,""" start="00:12:12.180" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""like it's saved on like the normal,""" start="00:12:14.860" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""the more popular browsers like Firefox.""" start="00:12:18.960" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I have no clue how long it will take for,""" start="00:12:23.680" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""I don't know, for example,""" start="00:12:25.120" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""Tala to pick up so that you can buy things""" start="00:12:28.660" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""without running JavaScript.""" start="00:12:30.020" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: Right. Well, I guess we'll have to cross our""" start="00:12:33.220" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""fingers then for Firefox to save the world.""" start="00:12:35.380" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""All right Yuchen, we're about out of time,""" start="00:12:37.260" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""we're moving on to the next talk in 20""" start="00:12:38.800" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""seconds. Thank you so much for your""" start="00:12:40.200" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""presentation and for waking up early and""" start="00:12:41.940" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""definitely more energetic than I was.""" start="00:12:47.020" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""All right, see you later.""" start="00:12:52.600" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 1]: Thank you. See you.""" start="00:12:53.940" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+[[!template text="""[Speaker 2]: Bye. And we go to the next talk right now.""" start="00:12:58.400" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
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+[[!template text="""you""" start="00:13:15.260" video="qanda-web" id="subtitle"]]
+
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