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(Some are already available.) + We'll also collect the recordings from the Q&A sessions and post + them. You can subscribe to the emacsconf-discuss mailing list + (<https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacsconf-discuss>) for + updates. + - corwin - I'll jump in at this point +- Love the conversations and the community? Here's how to keep going: + - Lots of meetups both online and in person: + <https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Usergroups> + - Like the IRC conversations? There's an #emacs channel, + #org-mode, #emacs-beginners on irc.libera.chat (put #emacs in + the channel field on chat.emacsconf.org, or use an IRC client + (bandali maintains ERC =) ) ) + - If you blog about EmacsConf or Emacs, please let me know at + sacha@sachachua.com so I can include it in Emacs News + (<https://sachachua.com/emacs-news/>) . + - <https://lobste.rs/t/emacs> , <https://reddit.com/r/emacs/> , + <https://reddit.com/r/orgmode/> + - Mastodon: there's a lively community at <https://emacs.ch> +- Corwin - stop here +- Flowy - starts here +- Want to help out with EmacsConf? Please e-mail + emacsconf-org@gnu.org or emacsconf-org-private@gnu.org and we will + assimilate you. =) Volunteers get early access to the talks and end + up learning a lot about Emacs along the way. You don't need to be + very technical; all levels of experience, interest, and availability + welcome. + - Next up: copying the pads and extracting notes from IRC so that + they can be added to the wiki; adding chapter markers and + captions for Q&A; ... +- Would be great if the webpage timestamps could be localized to the + web browser's local time. +- Thanks + - Thank you to all the speakers, volunteers, and participants, and + to all the people in our lives who make this possible. + - This year's conference hosts are zaeph and bandali and our + streamer sachac (who did not go crazy managing two streams at + the same time, yay Org Mode and OBS in the cloud!) + - Flowy - stopping here + - Who next? ʕ ·ᴥ·ʔ? + - Maybe sachac? It's about the captioneers! + - Thanks to our captioning volunteers: sachac, bhavin192, Tom + Purl, Hannah Miller, triko, and anush, and also to the speakers + who captioned their own talks. Thanks to quiliro for translating + the meetups talk into Spanish subtitles, which you can find on + the talk page. + - Thanks to dto for describing things in #emacsconf-accessible. + - Thanks to everyone who added notes and questions to the pad, and + especially to publicvoit and jrootabega. + - zaeph can take care of this from here + - Thanks to bhavin192 for last-minute reencoding and captioning, + and to his brother for lending us a beefy computer for + last-minute panicky reencodes. + - Thanks to Akshay Gaikwad for design contributions (notably the + next-talk slides) + - Thanks also to other volunteers: corwin, vetrivln, dto, jman, + FlowyCoder, and vetrivln who worked on all the other things that + are needed to make this happen. + - Thanks to Zen Monk Alain M. Lafon, Alex Mihov, Phil Hofmann, and + friends from 200ok.ch and Ardeo for organizing an in-person + EmacsConf satellite in Lucerne, Switzerland in their Coworking + Hub venue + - Thanks to shoshin whose music you heard today + - Thanks to the GNU Project and the Free Software Foundation for + Emacs and the mailing lists, and libera.chat for IRC community + support. + - Thanks to Ry P for the server that we're using for OBS + streaming and for processing videos. + - Thanks so much to all the organizers and participants in + EmacsConf 2022! (All of you! =) You're all awesome.) +- From chat: + - <edgarvincent[m]> I'd be very happy to help. + - All right! Looking forward to hearing from you - please + e-mail us at emacsconf-org@gnu.org + - <minad> Seriously, an emacsconf-mode would be great. I browsed + the website from eww, started vlc from eww, irced from Emacs. + The only thing missing was this etherpad. + - <edgarvincent[m]> Yes, it may sound a bit cheesy, but it is + nonetheless very true: I think emacs conf does a great job of + bringing in very different people together and producing a great + feeling of togertherness. + +## Questions + +- Q: What did you use to make this? + - All free/libre/open source tools: + - One private Org file with speaker/volunteer/talk info + - The talks were generally run using run-at-time, + org-after-todo-state-change-hook, and some TRAMP (by the + way, TRAMP does not like being run from timers at the + same time, so we shifted some talks =) ) + - A public Org file for processes: + <https://emacsconf.org/2022/organizers-notebook> + - An ansible repo for configuration management: + <https://git.emacsconf.org/emacsconf-ansible/> + - Lots of Emacs Lisp: + <https://git.emacsconf.org/emacsconf-el/> + - TRAMP for writing files and running commands on remote + computers + - OBS for streaming, Icecast for sharing the stream with + viewers + - VNC for letting hosts and streamers connect to the same + display for OBS streaming + - screen for naming shell commands and making them easier to + resume and kill + - BigBlueButton for video Q&A + - Mumble for speaking on the stream as well as for backstage + communications + - ERC for Internet Relay Chat within Emacs, The Lounge for + web-based IRC + - Ikiwiki for the wiki (editing through git commits) + - Etherpad for collaborative note-taking + - ffmpeg for reencoding videos to free (patent-unencumbered) + formats and compressing them + - Captioning (<https://emacsconf.org/captioning>): + - OpenAI Whisper for computer-generated transcripts to be + reflowed and edited by captioning volunteers + - Some Emacs Lisp code to help with reflowing + (emacsconf-reflow, in + <https://git.emacsconf.org/emacsconf-el/>) + - Aeneas (<https://www.readbeyond.it/aeneas/>) for + synchronizing reflowed text with the audio files + - subed.el (<https://github.com/sachac/subed>) for editing + captions within Emacs (synchronizes with MPV) + - MPV for playing videos (config tips: + <https://emacsconf.org/mpv/> + <https://git.emacsconf.org/emacsconf-ansible/tree/roles/obs/templates/mpv.conf>) +- Q: How do you have multiple font sizes, countdowns and clocks in + fundamental mode? + - A: + <https://git.emacsconf.org/emacsconf-el/tree/emacsconf-stream.el> + : see emacsconf-stream-display-clock-and-countdown. You can + propertize a string with face attributes and then insert it. +- Q: [what were the] participation rates (# of users) [this + year]? + - A: High-water mark was around 350: 240 people on Gen and ~100 + on Dev. It's not clear how these metrics compare to prior + years because we ran two streams in parallel this year. (i.e. a + given person could be watching both streams at the same time.) +- Q: + - A: +- Q: A great problem is having too many talks that we have split into + 2 tracks. What about having multiple conferences a year? + - A: Want to help organize another one? =) +- Q: "emacsconf-org.el" to elpa/core? :) + - There's a repo, it's probably very idiosyncratic, happy to + chat with whoever's interested - sachac + - A: +- Q: My streaming improved immensely once I implemented the mpv + solution. I could have benefited from a short "how to" beforehand + for the command line tool. + - A: ooh, good point, we'll recommend that more next time +- Q: Suggestion really-- a few setup videos that orient people to the + tools and conventions for participation. would be better. I think + y'all also need to load balance Leo-- turn him into an MC and + allow someone to field and queue up questions. That way Leo would + not be in a hurry to get back to the next presentation. He could + hand off the mic to someone who could facilitate. +- The number of users in the chat seem to have been around the 150 count. Is this typical-- less than normal participation? Higher participation? It would be a good data point from the organizers to note. +- are we going to get participation rates (# of users) in the closing remrks? +- quiliro: Would it be useful for next year's EmacsConf if I volunteered to set up crdt for creating pads directly from Emacs? +- Q: Is there an EmacsConf howto? + - Impressive event... I wish sachac or bandali would provide an EmacsConf howto! +- does the Emacs survey have geographic demographics on users? might use that to inform EmacsConf schedule + +## Discussion + +- Keep up the great work for EmacsConf every year +- what a great weekend. been using emacs for 30+ years and still learned a boatload. +- it's so nice the community keeps things rolling forward. thanks y'all for the work of organizing all this! +- Definitely so much new stuff +- Got stuff to tinker with for a month or two +- thanks to all organizers and presenters. everything so well done! +- And besides the organizers, thanks to everyone who gave a talk this year!! +- pretty nice talks and emacsconf in general! Thanks a lot +- I think we can all say that we enjoyed a lot of the talks +- this conf already goaded me into trying out 29 (building on a mac, so far. Linux boxen are next) to try the core tree sitter stuff. I need to go back and watch talks I miss and follow up on notes I already have. Love all this content! +- thanks a lot organizers! emacs, emacs people, emacsconf - all are outstanding 8-) +- Great emacsconf, as always! Thank you all that have been involved making it happen! +- As a longtime Emacs user, it was great to stumble on this conference. Thanks +- bandali sachac zaeph & team : What a treat this yearly EmacsConf, many thanks to you for your outstanding work... once again! +- 07:25] <bandali> <3 +- some notes on how we did it in the pad +- Meeting or rather seing yu all reinforces the belive in me that Emacs is the better computing thing. It can archive this! Thank you. +- I had to make some decisions on which track to listen to, but that comes with the territory, I suppose. The two traks worked great. +- Me too. It went very well! +- emacsconf.org -- It's a domain name! It's an org-mode file! It's a domain name and an org-mode file! +- Tracks + - Yeah, there were some points where I wanted to watch 2 talks at the same time as well + - But I really liked the 2 tracks + - But, I liked the fact that it gave more time for Q&As and we were more relaxed + - Last year was much more of a hurry + - This edition went extremely smoothly. + - I don't think that many people watched both talks at the same time. + - I'm not sure, I think people who watched dev would probably be interested in gen also. + - most people would find their preference and not jump-room +- Stack: + - //git.emacsconf.org looks to be interesting! + - Yes! Our wiki is git based (which I think is really cool) +- Timezones: + - I am in Europe and I personally like the time in which the talk is for me more than the American timezone + - I try to schedule all the talks based on speaker availability + - I wouldnt like waking up at 9 am in the weekend + - But I think its good both for Americans and Europeans + - for me it was great because I wake up 4 hours before start and go to sleep 1 hour after closing +- I think that previewing the talks would be great to be able to make more or better questions + - volunteer again next year! =) + - sure, sachac .... it has been a great experience...even better than giving a talk! more relaxed at least +- I loved sameer's talk even with the problems +- I loved that 95% of the talkes had captions. that is why i could follow up with the Sameer talk +- i was impressed about the feedback the organizers had before and during the event +- this organization was impressive +- thanks to you for being so active during the two days of conference! +- even being active in chat helps make the conference feel more alive +- wanting to experience more of the conference in Emacs + - I found it a bit hard to switch between Emacs, IRC, VLC and the Etherpad. Something like crdt.el would be great. + - Impressive techsetup and execution. Amazing that you did this with that much polish and utility. I think next thing would be an Emacs mode :P + - Seriously, an emacsconf-mode would be great. I browsed the website from eww, started vlc from eww, irced from Emacs. The only thing missing was this etherpad. + - and even my mpv was running inside Emacs....in EXWM + - I have top half taken by emacs split into a bunch of irc windows and the bottom split into two with etherpad on the left and the mpv on the right + - Yes Emacs collaboration is missing. But maybe next? I too had most in emacs. Beste. + - I absolutely agree. Actually, I was unconsciously expecting to access the conf from within Emacs, for some reason (well, to some extent, I did, by using empv for the videos and ement for the chat :) + - I had the schedule in Agenda. You could download a localized org schedule. + - Yes this could be more visible #feedback + - https://github.com/isamert/empv.el (a package which allows one to use mpv from within Emacs) + - Organizing and running, and attending, an online conference about Emacs, all in Emacs - take that VS Code +- jman, FlowyCoder, bandali : I did not see you.... were you in the back end? + - quiliro, i was a bit more present this year actually, but mainly on the dev track rather than gen + - bandali was hosting the dev track so on screen here and there and various voice overs;jman and FlowyCoder were indeed running different backstage things + +[[!inline pages="internal(2022/info/sun-close-after)" raw="yes"]] + +[[!inline pages="internal(2022/info/sun-close-nav)" raw="yes"]] + + |