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WEBVTT
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-okay so the first question is what is an
+Okay. So, the first question is, "What is an
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-example of a car
-
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-a package currently in
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+example of a package currently in
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-a non-elpa repo that does not work well
+a non-ELPA repo that does not work well
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-with Emacs
+with Emacs?"
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-well one of them is s dot el
+Well, one of them is s.el,
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and this is what made me aware that
@@ -25,7 +22,7 @@ and this is what made me aware that
there was an issue here that caused
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-problems well s.e.l
+problems. Well, s.el
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is a beautifully written package
@@ -34,67 +31,67 @@ is a beautifully written package
that appears to be very useful for
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-people
+people.
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-and there's just one thing wrong with it
+And there's just one thing wrong with it.
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-it gobbled up the name space
+It gobbled up the name space
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-of symbols starting with s dash
+of symbols starting with s dash.
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-and I was shocked to discover that
+And I was shocked to discover that
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somebody who had not coordinated with
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-the Emacs developers at all
+the Emacs developers at all,
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had implemented a package using such a
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-short prefix which
+short prefix, which
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-isn't the right way to do things oh by
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+isn't the right way to do things.
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-the way the questions have moved off the
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+Oh, by the way, the questions have moved off the
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-screen this is no good I can continue
+screen, this is no good. I can continue
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-answering this one
+answering this one,
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-but I'll be stuck when this one is over
+but I'll be stuck when this one is over.
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-anyway so uh
+Anyway, so…
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-and I was told that there was nothing I
+I was told that there was nothing I
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-could do about it
+could do about it,
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-that so many users packages were using
+that so many users, packages were using
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-swl and thus essentially using that
+s.el and thus essentially using that
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definition
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-of the s dash star symbols
+of the s-* symbols,
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that any attempt to use them
@@ -103,64 +100,61 @@ that any attempt to use them
publicly or privately for anything else
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-would lead to horrible problems
+would lead to horrible problems.
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-and I don't like that
+And I don't like that.
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-I decided I wanted to do something
+I decided, I wanted to do something
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-a so that that wouldn't happen again
+a) so that wouldn't happen again
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-and b to make it unhappen
+and b) to make it unhappen
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-in that case well the way to make it
+in that case. Well, the way to make it
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unhappen in that case is with a new
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-symbol renaming feature the idea is
+symbol renaming feature. The idea is,
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-you rename that file to something else
+you rename that file to something else,
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-and then you define an s.e.l that
+and then you define an s.el that
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sets up symbol renaming and then loads
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-the something else
+the something else.
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-so it actually runs the same code it
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+So, it actually runs the same code,
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-just
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+it just
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doesn't globally define the symbols
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-s dash whatever but they
+s dash whatever, but they
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appear to work for the programs that
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-explicitly
-
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-require that require sdl
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+explicitly require s.el
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-or the s package so this gets the same
+or the s package. So, this gets the same
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behavior for all the programs that are
@@ -169,94 +163,85 @@ behavior for all the programs that are
using that library
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-and uh doesn't interfere
+and doesn't interfere
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-with the global name space at all
+with the global name space at all.
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-however to do that we need to have a
+However, to do that we need to have a
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package
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-s.e.l that isn't the same
+s.el, that isn't the same
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-totally a short file that's totally
+totally. A short one file that's totally
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-different
+different.
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-plus we've got to have the file that
+Plus, we've got to have the file that
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normally is called
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-s.e.l available but
+s.el available, but
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-uh under another name well
+under another name. Well,
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-how are we going to do that we can't put
-
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-this into
+how are we going to do that? We can't put
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-into Emacs in a nice way that
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+this into Emacs in a nice way that
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-won't make the uh won't make the
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+won't make the maintainer angry.
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-maintainer angry
-
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-of the mate to the developer of that
-
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-package
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+(or the developer of that package.)
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-but we can do it with non-gnu
+But we can do it with NonGNU
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-elpa we can put those two things into
+ELPA. We can put those two things into
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-non-gnu elpa
+NonGNU ELPA
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-without any difficulty and this shows
+without any difficulty. And this shows
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-one of the advantages
+one of the advantages.
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-we can put files we can put packages
+We can put files, we can put packages
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-into non-gdu elpa
+into NonGNU ELPA
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-and make changes in them now in general
+and make changes in them. Now, in general
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we wouldn't
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-go to the effort of making big changes
+go to the effort of making big changes.
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-that's just too much to do
+That's just too much to do
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-unless something's really important but
+unless something's really important. But
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small changes
@@ -265,49 +250,49 @@ small changes
that help things fit in are
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-easy to do and
+easy to do.
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-uh okay oh so basically the recording
+Okay, oh, so basically the recording
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-didn't get anything until now I just saw
+didn't get anything until now. I just saw
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-a note pop up this session is now being
+a note pop up, "this session is now being
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-recorded
+recorded".
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-I hope it's been recorded all along it
+I hope it's been recorded all along. It
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would be a shame to
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-spoil oh good okay
+spoil… Oh, good okay.
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-okay good so uh that's one of the issues
+So, that's one of the issues.
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-uh does non-gnu eopa already exist
+"Does NonGNU ELPA already exist
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-or is this a sort of quote plan I don't
+or is this a sort of "plan"?" I don't
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know why you have to
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-put scare quotes around the word plan
+put scare quotes around the word plan.
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-it's sort of in between
+It's sort of in between.
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-it's the creation of it is started you
+The creation of it is started. You
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will find
@@ -316,52 +301,52 @@ will find
that there is an archive that it's
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-possible to download packages from
+possible to download packages from,
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-and there is a repository to put them in
+and there is a repository to put them in,
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but that's not the way it's really
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-supposed to work
+supposed to work.
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-uh this is not supposed to be like the
+This is not supposed to be like the
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-new elpa where there's
+GNU ELPA, where there's
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one repo for all the packages and thus
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-anyone who wants to edit any of them
+anyone who wants to edit any of them,
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anyone that we want to have edit any of
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-them
+them,
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has got to have access to the whole
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-thing for one thing
+thing for one thing.
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-some packages will make
+Some packages will make
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-an arrangement with the developers
+an arrangement with the developers,
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and they'll assure us that they will
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-do things as things should be done and
+do things as things should be done, and
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then we'll
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have their repo copied automatically
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-or in other cases say
+or in other cases, say,
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copied manually with a little checking
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-every so often
-
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-uh and then uh in
+every so often.
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-other cases we'll need to have our own
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+In other cases we'll need to have our own
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-repo for a particular package
+repo for a particular package.
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-but we shouldn't have a single repo for
+But we shouldn't have a single repo for
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-all the packages we should have a repo
+all the packages. We should have a repo
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-for each package
+for each package,
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so that the people working on that can
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-get access to modify it
+get access to modify it.
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-this has to be finished setting up
+This has to be finished setting up,
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and we're still working out the
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-procedures
+procedures.
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-for instance for making the arrangements
+For instance, for making the arrangements
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with the developers of a package so that
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-we can
+we can,
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-we hope uh entrust its development to
-
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-them and
+we hope, entrust its development to
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-rely on them directly
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+them and rely on them directly.
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-and there may be more that needs to be
+And there may be more that needs to be
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-worked on
+worked on.
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-oh there's so many questions
+Oh! There's so many questions.
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-well I hope you the third question is
+Well, I hope you… The third question is,
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-what are the benefits
+what are the benefits?
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-I hope that people now see the benefits
+I hope that people now see the benefits.
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-I've described them
+I've described them.
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-uh next question is it possible to work
+Next question, "Is it possible to work
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-with the melba team
+with the MELPA team
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-to integrate that into Emacs
+to integrate that into Emacs?"
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-no because the goal doesn't make sense
+No, because the goal doesn't make sense.
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-melba the way it's done does not belong
+MELPA the way it's done, does not belong
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-inside Emacs in any sense well first of
+inside Emacs in any sense. Well, first of
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-all it can't literally be
+all, it can't literally be
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-inside Emacs we don't have copyright
+inside Emacs. We don't have copyright
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assignments for that code
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-and to get it would be unfeasible
+and to get it would be unfeasible,
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but we're not asking for copyright
@@ -487,112 +466,103 @@ but we're not asking for copyright
assignments for
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-non-gnu elpa so that's
+NonGNU ELPA so that's
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-you might wonder could melpa be merged
+you might wonder could MELPA be merged
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-with non-venue elpa the problem is
+with NonGNU ELPA? The problem is,
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-melpa doesn't modify the packages
+MELPA doesn't modify the packages.
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-it's just a place to find releases of
+It's just a place to find releases of
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-packages wherever they happen to be
+packages wherever they happen to be,
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and they put packages in with
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-only a little bit of checking
+only a little bit of checking.
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-so no we there are a lot of packages
+So, no. There are a lot of packages
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that are
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-in melpa that we'd like to get into
+in MELPA that we'd like to get into
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-non-canoe elpa I don't know the names of
+NonGNU ELPA. I don't know the names of
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-most of them but I expect most of them
+most of them, but I expect most of them
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-would be fine to have but they've got to
+would be fine to have. But they've got to
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-be looked at one by one
+be looked at one by one.
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-there are some rules for non-glpa
+There are some rules for NonGNU ELPA,
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and the only way to check them is to
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-check them on one package at a time
+check them on one package at a time,
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-and that's going to take effort
+and that's going to take effort.
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-now with the people who work on melba
+Now, with the people who work on MELPA
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want to get involved
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-of this that would be great
+of this, that would be great.
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-I haven't tried asking them first we've
+I haven't tried asking them. First we've
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got to get this thing
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-set up I doubt they would want to
+set up. I doubt they would want to,
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-but if they said yes that would be
+but if they said yes, that would be
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-wonderful
+wonderful.
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-uh any thoughts of packages being
+"Any thoughts of packages being
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-added I'm afraid
+added…" I'm afraid.
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-um
-
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-I'm afraid any thoughts of packages
-
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-being added as
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+Any thoughts of packages being added as
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-some url I don't know anything about but
+some URL I don't know anything about, but
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-it talks about open source
-
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-which means I'm very unlikely to have
+it talks about open source,
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-much
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+which means I'm very unlikely to have much
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in common with whatever they say about
@@ -601,58 +571,49 @@ in common with whatever they say about
either licensing or
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-what's right and wrong uh
+what's right and wrong.
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-but this seems to be something about
+But this seems to be something about
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-disregarding licenses
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+disregarding licenses altogether.
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-altogether well that is basically
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+Well, that is basically
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-asking to lose there are reasons
+asking to lose. There are reasons
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-why we developed gnu licenses to release
+why we developed GNU licenses to release
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-software why we have criteria
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+software, why we have criteria for which
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-for which licenses make a program free
-
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-software
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+licenses make a program free software.
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-if the program doesn't carry a license
-
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-or if it carries a non-free license that
-
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-program
+If the program doesn't carry a license
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-is not free software now you can
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+or if it carries a non-free license,
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-maybe get away with disregarding that
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+that program is not free software.
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-fact uh unless
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+Now, you can maybe get away with
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-somebody an author or publisher stops
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+disregarding that fact unless
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-you
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+somebody, an author or publisher stops you.
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-but we're not going to take we're not
+But we're not going to take… we're not
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basically going to
@@ -664,13 +625,13 @@ disregard the question of whether the
software we
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-recommend to people really is free
+recommend to people, really is free
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-software or not
+software or not.
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-that's basically uh
+That's basically
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blindfolding yourself to the legal
@@ -678,20 +639,17 @@ blindfolding yourself to the legal
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situation of the software you're
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-distributing
-
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-it's a terrible idea uh if they
+00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:33.519
+distributing, it's a terrible idea. If they
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disregard our licenses they will hear
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-from us about it
+from us about it.
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-and if you want to contribute to the
+And if you want to contribute to the
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free world
@@ -699,26 +657,20 @@ free world
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put free licenses on your code
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-and choose good ones to get this
-
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-information
+00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:47.823
+and choose good ones.
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-look at gnu.org slash licensing
+00:10:47.823 --> 00:10:50.000
+To get this information,
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-in particular slash licenses
+00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:57.120
+look at gnu.org/licenses,
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-and one page that input that's important
-
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-is license
+and one page that's important
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-dash recommendations.html
+00:10:59.839 --> 00:11:05.040
+is license-recommendations.html,
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that's where we advise you on what
@@ -727,25 +679,25 @@ that's where we advise you on what
license we would recommend you use
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-depending on the circumstances
+depending on the circumstances.
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-there's also license dash list dot html
+There's also license-list.html
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which describes a lot of licenses and
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-says which ones are free
+says which ones are free,
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-which ones are compatible with the new
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+which ones are compatible
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-gpl
+00:11:23.957 --> 00:11:26.160
+with the GNU GPL.
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-it's really important to use only gpl
+It's really important to use only GPL
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compatible licenses
@@ -753,59 +705,53 @@ compatible licenses
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so that the various programs can be
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-combined together
-
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-or linked and
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+combined together or linked.
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-you can also get other information about
+You can also get other information about
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-gnu licenses
+GNU licenses
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and the reasons why they are written the
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-way they are
+way they are.
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-oh sorry I don't see the next question
-
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-oh why do I insist on using per and
+Oh sorry, I don't see the next question.
-00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:07.519
-purrs
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+"Why do I insist on using per and pers?"
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-uh I'm not happy with using
+I'm not happy with using
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-they which is a plural pronoun with a
+they, which is a plural pronoun with a
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-singular antecedent
+singular antecedent.
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-it's bad because it causes
+It's bad because it causes
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-confusion that is completely gratuitous
+confusion that is completely gratuitous.
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-many sentences become a lot of work
+Many sentences become a lot of work
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to parse and understand if you
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-add that ambiguity that source of him of
+add that ambiguity, that source of
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-regular ambiguity now
+regular ambiguity. Now,
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I do not accept the demands of other
@@ -814,10 +760,10 @@ I do not accept the demands of other
people
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-in regard to changing my grammar
+in regard to changing my grammar.
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-you can try to convince me but
+You can try to convince me, but
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no one is entitled to give me orders
@@ -829,58 +775,58 @@ about that
or state their desires and expect
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-obedience not for me and not from you
+obedience, not for me and not from you
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-or anyone we are all
+or anyone. We are all
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equally entitled to decide
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-how we will speak and how we won't speak
+how we will speak and how we won't speak.
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-now I've spelled out all of these points
+I've spelled out all of these points
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-in a file called stolman.org
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+in a file called
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-articles slash
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+stallman.org/articles/genderless-pronouns.html
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-genderneutrality.html
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+(corrected),
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-of course this is not a gnu project
+of course, this is not a GNU project
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-policy
+policy,
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it's my own personal ideas on the
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-subject
+subject.
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-if any of you feels offended
+If any of you feels offended
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by my referring to you with a singular
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-gender neutral pronoun feel free
+gender-neutral pronoun, feel free
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-to ex contact me privately
+to contact me privately
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-and explain to me your reasons
+and explain to me your reasons.
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-I will pay attention to them I'll
+I will pay attention to them, I'll
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think about them assuming that they're
@@ -889,43 +835,43 @@ think about them assuming that they're
not something I've already
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-considered and decided to dismiss before
+considered and decided to dismiss before.
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-but you must not speak to me as if I had
+But you must not speak to me as if I had
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no business not obeying you because
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-that's
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+that's rude,
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-rude and it is not likely to convince me
+00:14:31.690 --> 00:14:34.320
+and it is not likely to convince me
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-to change my mind
+to change my mind.
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I believe it is not actually
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-of stating offense to anyone
+of stating offense to anyone,
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and the fact that somebody disagrees
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-with me does not mean I'm wrong
+with me does not mean I'm wrong,
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-but I always can be wrong
+but I always can be wrong.
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-when you wrote that you could add a
+"When you wrote that you could add a
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-package to non your new elpa
+package to NonGNU ELPA,
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are you implying that you would add
@@ -934,22 +880,19 @@ are you implying that you would add
packages with or without package
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-maintainers knowledge
+maintainer's knowledge?"
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-of course the packages we would
+Of course, the packages we would
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-we would distribute in this way are free
+distribute in this way are free
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-software
+software.
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-everyone is entitled to redistribute
-
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-them
+00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:22.720
+Everyone is entitled to redistribute them
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and everyone is also entitled to modify
@@ -958,10 +901,10 @@ and everyone is also entitled to modify
them
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-and redistribute them that's part of the
+and redistribute them, that's part of the
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-meaning of free software
+meaning of free software.
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I have been unable to understand
@@ -972,86 +915,77 @@ how there came to be an idea
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that those who redistribute packages
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-have some idea to be mere
-
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-some obligation to be near mirrors
+00:15:42.560 --> 00:15:49.360
+have some obligation to be mere mirrors
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-and not modify things themselves
+and not modify things themselves.
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-well if a package is
+Well, if a package is
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being maintained by developers who are
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-cooperating with us
+cooperating with us,
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-we'll normally just leave it to them
+we'll normally just leave it to them.
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-after all
+After all,
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-we have lots of other work to do they
+00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:09.590
+we have lots of other work to do.
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-are
+00:16:09.590 --> 00:16:12.390
+They are clearly experts on
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-clearly experts on the packages they've
-
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-developed
+00:16:12.390 --> 00:16:15.600
+the packages they've developed,
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let's leave it to them if they make that
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-sort of arrangement with us but
+sort of arrangement with us. But
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-that's up to them we can't insist that
+that's up to them, we can't insist that
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-anyone make an arrangement with us
+anyone make an arrangement with us,
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but since those programs are free
-00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.279
-software anyone c is
-
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-free to redistribute them and we will do
+00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:35.723
+software, anyone is free to redistribute them,
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-that
+00:16:35.723 --> 00:16:41.839
+and we will do that.
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-have you ever used vi or vim or
+"Have you ever used vi or vim or
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-evil mode no
+evil mode?" No.
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-are there any plans to implement
+"Are there any plans to implement
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-security considerations in non-gnu
+security considerations in NonGNU
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-elpa uh we probably
+00:16:56.800 --> 00:16:58.657
+ELPA?"
-00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:02.959
-should and this will have to be
+00:16:58.657 --> 00:17:01.890
+We probably should,
-00:17:02.959 --> 00:17:04.959
-implemented
+00:17:01.890 --> 00:17:04.959
+and this will have to be implemented,
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but at the moment
@@ -1063,7 +997,7 @@ developer Emacs maintainers will copy
packages
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-into it and so as long as they are
+into it, and so as long as they are
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verifying the packages and getting the
@@ -1071,14 +1005,14 @@ verifying the packages and getting the
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packages from the right place
-00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:25.199
-that will take care of the security once
+00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:24.690
+that will take care of the security.
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-there is
+00:17:24.690 --> 00:17:25.919
+Once there is…
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-when with automatic copying in
+When with automatic copying in,
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will have to do something to
@@ -1087,40 +1021,37 @@ will have to do something to
make sure that we're fetching the
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-packages securely
+packages securely.
-00:17:40.320 --> 00:17:43.360
-and uh some of you might be interested
-
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-in
+00:17:40.320 --> 00:17:44.000
+Some of you might be interested in
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helping to design and implement this
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-system
+system.
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-uh what distro do I use
+"What distro do I use?"
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-uh well which distro of gnu slash linux
+Well, which distro of GNU/Linux
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-do I use
+do I use?
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-I use tree scale
+I use Trisquel,
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I haven't tried most of the free distros
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-and the reason is it's not crucial that
+and the reason is, it's not crucial that
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-I do so
+I do so,
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we don't need me to rate the various
@@ -1132,13 +1063,13 @@ free distros on
practical questions because anyone can
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-do that as well as I can
+do that as well as I can.
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-and so you can tell people what
+And so you can tell people what
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-you think of using them for me what's
+you think of using them. For me, what's
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important to me
@@ -1150,16 +1081,16 @@ is to inform people of the difference
between the free distros
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-and the non-free distros making sure
+and the non-free distros, making sure
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people are aware that if you
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-install a non-free gnu slash linux
+install a non-free GNU/Linux
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-distro you'll get a free operating
+distro, you'll get a free operating
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system with
@@ -1168,28 +1099,25 @@ system with
non-free stuff in various quantities
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-added thus you will not reach freedom
+added, thus you will not reach freedom,
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-although you you'll make a lot of
+although you'll make a lot of
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progress compared
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-with using for instance windows or
+with using for instance, Windows or
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-mac os or whatever vicious thing it
+macOS or whatever vicious thing it
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-might be
-
-00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:08.559
-I'd like to I'd like to people to be
+might be.
-00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:09.760
-aware
+00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:09.760
+I'd like people to be aware
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of this next step towards
@@ -1198,31 +1126,25 @@ of this next step towards
getting freedom for yourself and your
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-own computing
+own computing,
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-so that you can do that if you want to
-
-00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:29.039
-uh
+so that you can do that if you want to.
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-so who gets to make the final decision
-
-00:19:31.360 --> 00:19:32.799
-regarding
+"Who gets to make the final decision
-00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:36.640
-non-gnu elpa the
+00:19:31.360 --> 00:19:35.157
+regarding NonGNU ELPA?"
-00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:39.200
-emax maintainers are going to be in
+00:19:35.157 --> 00:19:38.690
+The Emacs maintainers are
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-charge of this
+00:19:38.690 --> 00:19:40.960
+going to be in charge of this,
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-but because it's not
+because it's not
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just a technical decision it has with
@@ -1237,55 +1159,52 @@ but in general unless there's some
severe problem with the package we will
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-want to put it in
+want to put it in,
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-and I expect most packages won't have a
+00:20:03.600 --> 00:20:05.757
+and I expect most packages
-00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:07.440
-problem
+00:20:05.757 --> 00:20:07.440
+won't have a problem,
-00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:09.919
-and we can just put them in when we get
+00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:09.357
+and we can just put them in
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-to them
+00:20:09.357 --> 00:20:11.679
+when we get to them.
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-won't the elpa link to non-free sites
+"Won't the ELPA link to non-free sites
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-like github
+like GitHub?"
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-uh it's a mistake to talk about a
+It's a mistake to talk about a
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-non-free site
+non-free site,
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-because a site is not a program
+because a site is not a program.
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-a program is either free or non-free and
+00:20:29.120 --> 00:20:32.123
+A program is either free or non-free,
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-we have
+00:20:32.123 --> 00:20:32.960
+and we have
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clearly stated criteria for that in
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-gnu.org philosophy slash
-
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-free dash sw.html we have the free
+00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:42.457
+gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
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-software definition
+00:20:42.457 --> 00:20:45.360
+we have the free software definition,
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-but a site well their programs on it
+but a site, well, there're programs on it,
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but it doesn't make sense to ask whether
@@ -1294,52 +1213,52 @@ but it doesn't make sense to ask whether
the site is
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-free or not it's too simplistic a
+free or not, it's too simplistic a
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question
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-to have a meaningful answer now one
+to have a meaningful answer. Now, one
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-thing you can ask about is does the site
+thing you can ask about is, does the site
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-send javascript to the user's machine
+send JavaScript to the user's machine,
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-to the user's browser and if so is that
+to the user's browser and if so, is that
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-javascript
+JavaScript
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-non-free well github
+non-free. Well, GitHub
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-does send non-free javascript for some
+does send non-free JavaScript for some
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-operations
+operations,
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so we consider it unsatisfactory as a
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-repository
+repository,
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-but uh that doesn't mean linking to it
+but that doesn't mean linking to it
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-for is a bad thing to do regardless of
+is a bad thing to do regardless of
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-what the purpose is
+what the purpose is.
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-for instance if the purpose is to refer
+For instance, if the purpose is to refer
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to some things
@@ -1348,34 +1267,31 @@ to some things
that you can access without running the
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-non-free javascript
+non-free JavaScript,
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-then it's okay for that purpose
+then it's okay for that purpose.
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-so if now that you understand the
+So, if now that you understand the
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-details of this issue
+details of this issue,
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you think that there is a problem with
-00:21:54.880 --> 00:21:55.919
-the
-
-00:21:55.919 --> 00:22:00.080
-link to camel there's
+00:21:54.880 --> 00:22:00.080
+the link to caml…, there's,
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-sorry a link in camel dot html
+sorry, a link in caml.html,
-00:22:03.679 --> 00:22:06.799
-well report it to
+00:22:03.679 --> 00:22:08.823
+well, report it to bug-gnu-emacs,
-00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:10.880
-uh bug gnu emax reported as an Emacs bug
+00:22:08.823 --> 00:22:10.880
+report it as an Emacs bug,
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but do think about the criteria I've
@@ -1384,49 +1300,49 @@ but do think about the criteria I've
just said because maybe it's not a
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-problem
+problem.
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-is it okay to use the gnu of pharaoh gpl
+"Is it okay to use the GNU Affero GPL
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-for emax packages
+for Emacs packages?"
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-yes it is
+Yes it is.
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-uh which is your favorite programming
+"Which is your favorite programming
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-language
+language?
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-if lisp which variant
+If Lisp, which variant?"
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-well I don't exactly have a
+Well, I don't exactly have a
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-favorite variant but
+favorite variant, but
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-when I designed Emacs lisp I
+when I designed Emacs Lisp, I
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did the best thing I could think of at
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-the time
+the time,
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-subject to the need to keep it small
+subject to the need to keep it small.
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-for the first few years it was important
+For the first few years it was important
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-for gdu Emacs
+for GNU Emacs
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to run in a machine which could only
@@ -1435,10 +1351,10 @@ to run in a machine which could only
give it half
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-a meg of user space
+a meg of user space.
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-so there are a lot of constructs that
+So, there are a lot of constructs that
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clearly were desirable to include
@@ -1459,16 +1375,16 @@ since because
it's been a long time since we needed to
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-keep Emacs so rigorously small
+keep Emacs so rigorously small.
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-um someone is
+Someone is
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asking about the
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-fsf's repository project well
+FSF's repository project. Well,
00:23:51.360 --> 00:23:54.400
we agreed that there would be another
@@ -1477,31 +1393,28 @@ we agreed that there would be another
virtual machine
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-running one of those for the gnu project
+running one of those for the GNU project,
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-but that's as far as the discussion went
+but that's as far as the discussion went.
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-question 17 is extremely insulting
+Question 17 is extremely insulting!
00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:25.600
-I have not engaged in sexual harassment
+I have not engaged in sexual harassment,
00:24:25.600 --> 00:24:28.720
don't expect me to plead guilty to such
-00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:28.960
-a
-
-00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:32.640
-nasty claim
+00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:32.640
+a nasty claim.
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-people have been accusing me of many
+People have been accusing me of many
00:24:35.600 --> 00:24:36.799
-things
+things,
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some of which are
@@ -1509,32 +1422,29 @@ some of which are
00:24:39.919 --> 00:24:43.120
basically mole hills and some of which
-00:24:43.120 --> 00:24:46.559
-are false so
+00:24:43.120 --> 00:24:44.423
+are false.
-00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:50.640
-uh I'm not going to give them
+00:24:44.423 --> 00:24:50.640
+So, I'm not going to give them
00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:53.840
-anything I have been bullied in a
-
-00:24:53.840 --> 00:24:56.400
-horrible way
+anything, I have been bullied in a
-00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:59.679
-that was wrong
+00:24:53.840 --> 00:24:59.679
+horrible way, that was wrong.
00:24:59.679 --> 00:25:02.720
I would like the bullies to apologize to
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-me
+me,
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-and when I see that they're not bullying
+and when I see that they're not bullying,
00:25:06.320 --> 00:25:08.960
-I will forgive them
+I will forgive them.
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:11.279
I would like to have conversations with
@@ -1543,94 +1453,88 @@ I would like to have conversations with
them if any of the mole hills
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:17.840
-annoyed someone I'm happy to talk
+annoyed someone, I'm happy to talk
00:25:17.840 --> 00:25:20.880
-with her and thus
+with per and thus
00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:31.120
-uh help help resolve things with peace
+help resolve things with peace.
-00:25:31.120 --> 00:25:35.120
-and my opinion on
-
-00:25:35.120 --> 00:25:39.200
-quote diversity within
+00:25:31.120 --> 00:25:39.200
+And my opinion on "diversity" within
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-Emacs well Emacs is
+Emacs. Well, Emacs is
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-never going to be diverse it is extended
-
-00:25:45.679 --> 00:25:46.480
-in
+never going to be diverse, it is extended
-00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:49.760
-one language Emacs lisp
+00:25:45.679 --> 00:25:49.760
+in one language, Emacs Lisp.
00:25:49.760 --> 00:25:53.279
-well I don't know uh we did have an idea
+Well, I don't know, we did have an idea
00:25:53.279 --> 00:25:55.840
of implementing extensibility using
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-scheme and the hope was that guile
+Scheme and the hope was that Guile
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-could be integrated with Emacs that
+could be integrated with Emacs, that
00:26:01.120 --> 00:26:02.960
-turned out to be difficult it may be
+turned out to be difficult, it may be
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:05.279
impossible but in principle
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:07.520
-it might be a good thing that would be a
+it might be a good thing, that would be a
00:26:07.520 --> 00:26:11.039
-small amount of diversity
+small amount of diversity,
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-but it's not that important
+but it's not that important.
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:16.960
-what I think is really important for
+What I think is really important for
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:18.880
developing Emacs
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-is to make it do word processing
+is to make it do word processing.
00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:27.039
-I sometimes use libra office
+I sometimes use LibreOffice,
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:30.080
-and yeah I can make it do things
+and yeah I can make it do things.
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-it has features for wysiwyg which are
+It has features for WYSIWYG which are
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-very nice
+very nice,
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:38.000
-but it's in other regards
+but it's in other regards,
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-it's not Emacs and it doesn't have the
+it's not Emacs, and it doesn't have the
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:42.400
-abilities of Emacs
+abilities of Emacs,
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-and it should
+and it should.
00:26:45.600 --> 00:26:48.400
-so I urge people to work on extending
+So, I urge people to work on extending
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:49.039
Emacs
@@ -1639,73 +1543,70 @@ Emacs
in that direction adding the features
00:26:51.600 --> 00:27:13.600
-that a word processor has to have
+that a word processor has to have.
-00:27:13.600 --> 00:27:16.640
-the last question I can answer is
+00:27:13.600 --> 00:27:17.957
+The last question I can answer is 18.
-00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:21.679
-18 but yes it's a very sad thing
+00:27:17.957 --> 00:27:21.679
+Yes, it's a very sad thing
00:27:21.679 --> 00:27:24.960
how many companies
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:28.399
-insist on using non-free software
+insist on using non-free software.
00:27:28.399 --> 00:27:33.200
-well I would get a different kind of job
+Well, I would get a different kind of job,
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:36.799
that's a decision I made many years ago
00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:40.320
-early in the gnu project
+early in the GNU project,
00:27:40.320 --> 00:27:42.799
-I decided I would not first I would not
+I decided, I would not… first I would not
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:47.679
-get a job developing non-free software
+get a job developing non-free software.
00:27:47.679 --> 00:27:50.960
-and later on I decided
+And later on I decided,
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:54.880
once I could stop using non-free
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.120
-software that is once we had
+software, that is once we had
00:27:57.120 --> 00:28:00.799
-a gnu slash linux system that we could
+a GNU/Linux system that we could
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:08.320
-switch over to and uh
+switch over to and…
00:28:08.320 --> 00:28:11.679
-oh wait I thought I thought magic wand
+Oh, wait. I thought magic wand
00:28:11.679 --> 00:28:16.240
-time meant it was time to stop
+time meant it was time to stop,
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:21.039
-but now I rather ask the question
-
-00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:27.760
-uh
+but now I rather ask the question.
00:28:27.760 --> 00:28:32.480
-so what do you do well if I were you
+So, what do you do, well, if I were you,
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:35.679
I'd probably not work for any of those
00:28:35.679 --> 00:28:37.440
-companies
+companies.
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:39.679
-if I needed to make money I'd get a job
+If I needed to make money, I'd get a job,
00:28:39.679 --> 00:28:40.799
but I get some
@@ -1717,16 +1618,16 @@ other kind of job
that didn't involve using software
00:28:48.080 --> 00:28:51.039
-I would or that let me choose the
+or that let me choose the
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.600
-software I would use
+software I would use.
00:28:53.600 --> 00:28:56.880
-but I would live cheaply you know the
+But I would live cheaply, you know, the
00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:58.000
-less you spend
+less you spend,
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.640
the less you need to make and the more
@@ -1744,7 +1645,7 @@ and the more flexibility you have in
which paid work
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:13.039
-you can do being in a position
+you can do. Being in a position
00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:16.399
to say no to avoid being
@@ -1753,22 +1654,22 @@ to say no to avoid being
desperate to say yes
00:29:23.679 --> 00:29:27.440
-uh strengthens your position
+strengthens your position,
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:31.200
-and you need that one way you can help
+and you need that. One way you can help
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:33.279
do that is by
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:36.559
-not having children now that is a
+not having children. Now, that is a
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:38.960
-tangent but it can't be denied that
+tangent, but it can't be denied that
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:41.760
-raising children is very expensive I
+raising children is very expensive, I
00:29:41.760 --> 00:29:42.399
have heard
@@ -1777,7 +1678,7 @@ have heard
many people say that they are
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.080
-uncomfortable with their jobs
+uncomfortable with their jobs,
00:29:48.080 --> 00:29:50.880
but they have to do those jobs to make
@@ -1786,28 +1687,25 @@ but they have to do those jobs to make
enough money
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.440
-to support their children
+to support their children.
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:59.120
-well think about that be aware
+Well, think about that, be aware
00:29:59.120 --> 00:30:01.520
-that's likely to happen to you before
+that's likely to happen to you, before
00:30:01.520 --> 00:30:06.159
-you make that decision
+you make that decision.
-00:30:06.159 --> 00:30:10.000
-what would I
-
-00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:13.279
-what would I change about free software
+00:30:06.159 --> 00:30:13.279
+"What would I change about free software?"
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:16.960
-well since this is
+Well, since this is
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:20.880
-magic I would magically find
+magic, I would magically find
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:25.600
a way of showing everyone why
@@ -1816,7 +1714,7 @@ a way of showing everyone why
most free software needs to be copy
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:29.679
-lifted
+lefted,
00:30:29.679 --> 00:30:32.480
so that our community would not
@@ -1828,10 +1726,10 @@ basically
submit to abuse by proprietary software
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:45.919
-developers
+developers.
00:30:45.919 --> 00:30:49.760
-of course I could go further if I could
+Of course, I could go further if I could
00:30:49.760 --> 00:30:53.279
magically recruit a hundred thousand
@@ -1840,16 +1738,16 @@ magically recruit a hundred thousand
good programmers to do lots of work
00:30:55.760 --> 00:30:57.919
-improving free software
+improving free software.
00:30:57.919 --> 00:31:01.039
-we might well if we could do this 20
+We might… Well, if we could do this 20
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:03.279
-years ago we might have wiped out
+years ago, we might have wiped out
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:06.559
-non-free systems and then we wouldn't
+non-free systems, and then we wouldn't
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:07.200
have had
@@ -1858,7 +1756,7 @@ have had
horrible things like
00:31:10.320 --> 00:31:14.480
-world wide web drm that
+World Wide Web DRM, that
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:18.000
no one has the courage to resist
@@ -1867,100 +1765,94 @@ no one has the courage to resist
if they're desperately trying to get
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:22.640
-money for anything
+money for anything,
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.240
-and if they need approval of companies
+and if they need approval of companies,
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:29.519
-of the big companies that push for drm
+of the big companies that push for DRM,
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.960
-uh then they don't dare even resist as
+then they don't dare even resist as
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:38.240
-much as they can resist
+much as they can resist.
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.880
-and look what happened to the world wide
+And look what happened to the World Wide
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:43.200
-web consortium
+Web consortium,
00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:47.279
-uh they surrendered blatantly
+they surrendered blatantly
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:50.399
and ignominiously by
00:31:50.399 --> 00:31:55.760
-endorsing the drm system
+endorsing the DRM system.
00:31:55.760 --> 00:31:59.600
-so what can you do I don't have a magic
+So what can you do? I don't have a magic
00:31:59.600 --> 00:32:00.880
-wand
+wand,
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.720
I'm a human being with the capabilities
-00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:06.559
-I have
-
-00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.919
-but the advantage of
+00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:09.919
+I have, but the advantage of
00:32:09.919 --> 00:32:12.840
great firmness in campaigning for free
00:32:12.840 --> 00:32:14.000
-software
+software,
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:18.240
and this enables me to do things
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:27.679
-that no one else will do
+that no one else will do.
00:32:27.679 --> 00:32:30.480
-what tools from pre unix days do you
+"What tools from pre-UNIX days do you
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:31.519
-miss
+miss?"
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.240
-well I don't I don't think about them
-
-00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:34.880
-with
+Well, I don't. I don't think about them
-00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:38.640
-missing them actually but
+00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:38.640
+with missing them actually.
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:42.080
-it was sort of nice to have
+It was sort of nice to have
00:32:42.080 --> 00:32:46.240
-ddt as your login shell
+ddt as your login shell.
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:49.600
-so in using modern terminology
+So, in using modern terminology,
00:32:49.600 --> 00:32:52.640
because that meant at any time you could
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.519
-stop a program lotus debugging symbols
+stop a program, load its debugging symbols,
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:57.519
and start examining the data in the
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:58.799
-instructions
+instructions.
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.519
-you could debug it that way and then you
+You could debug it that way, and then you
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:03.039
could even
@@ -1969,28 +1861,28 @@ could even
patch in instructions to continue
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:09.760
-running that job with the bug fixed
+running that job with the bug fixed,
00:33:09.760 --> 00:33:11.600
-in fact you could even do this with the
+in fact, you could even do this with the
00:33:11.600 --> 00:33:13.919
-system kernel
+system kernel,
-00:33:13.919 --> 00:33:16.640
-so that your jobs wouldn't get lost I
+00:33:13.919 --> 00:33:16.423
+so that your jobs wouldn't get lost.
-00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:17.840
-did that
+00:33:16.423 --> 00:33:17.840
+I did that
00:33:17.840 --> 00:33:20.559
-quite a few times of course sometimes I
+quite a few times, of course, sometimes I
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:22.720
-saw what was wrong and I just had to
+saw what was wrong, and I just had to
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.919
-fix a piece of data but sometimes
+fix a piece of data, but sometimes
00:33:25.919 --> 00:33:28.240
it took me a long time to figure out how
@@ -1999,67 +1891,67 @@ it took me a long time to figure out how
to get the system to
00:33:29.679 --> 00:33:32.480
-keep on going but with the work I had
+keep on going. But with the work I had
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:34.240
-done
+done,
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:39.279
-I didn't want to lose that work
+I didn't want to lose that work,
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.600
-and so one of the first features I put
+and, so one of the first features I put
00:33:41.600 --> 00:33:43.039
-into gdu Emacs was
+into GNU Emacs was
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:47.760
-auto save
+auto save.
00:33:47.760 --> 00:33:50.640
-uh I'm not going to try to figure out
+I'm not going to try to figure out
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:54.320
-which packages I re I actually used
+which packages I actually used.
00:33:54.320 --> 00:33:56.480
-uh if I knew I would get hit by a bus
+"If I knew, I would get hit by a bus
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:59.039
-tomorrow
+tomorrow,
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:02.320
-uh say because of a fortune teller
+say because of a fortune-teller."
00:34:02.320 --> 00:34:05.039
-no a fortune teller doesn't give you any
+No, a fortune-teller doesn't give you any
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:06.240
-knowledge it's just
+knowledge, it's just
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:10.159
-superstitious uh hand waving
+superstitious hand waving.
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:13.760
-so assuming that I
+So, assuming that I
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.480
-talked that I got a reading from a
+talked… that I got a reading from a
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:18.879
-fortune teller which is
+fortune-teller, which is
00:34:18.879 --> 00:34:23.119
-implausible enough to begin with uh
+implausible enough to begin with,
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:25.040
that wouldn't give me any knowledge
00:34:25.040 --> 00:34:28.320
-about what was going to happen to me
+about what was going to happen to me.
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:32.879
-oh by the way fortune tellers generally
+Oh, by the way fortune-tellers generally
00:34:32.879 --> 00:34:34.960
play back to you facts that they've
@@ -2068,7 +1960,7 @@ play back to you facts that they've
discovered about you
00:34:36.879 --> 00:34:40.480
-together with cold reading which means
+together with cold reading, which means,
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:43.440
they say things calculated to make it
@@ -2077,40 +1969,34 @@ they say things calculated to make it
appear that they know
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:49.119
-more than they do or things that are
+more than they do or things that
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.399
-uh that sound wise to anyone
+sound wise to anyone,
00:34:52.399 --> 00:34:55.679
-so you can say the same thing to
+so you can say the same thing to,
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:58.800
-uh say 100 people
+say, 100 people
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:02.000
-and 80 or 90 of them will say boy that
+and 80 or 90 of them will say, "boy that
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:06.480
-was really accurate
+was really accurate".
-00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:10.400
-but what if for some reason
-
-00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:15.119
-uh about
+00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:15.119
+But what if for some reason…
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.440
-what what advice would I give for
+"What advice would I give for
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:18.560
stewardship of
-00:35:18.560 --> 00:35:22.079
-Emacs well basically
-
-00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:25.359
-focus on
+00:35:18.560 --> 00:35:25.359
+Emacs?" Well, basically focus on
00:35:25.359 --> 00:35:28.480
keeping the community strong in
@@ -2119,7 +2005,7 @@ keeping the community strong in
defending
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:32.640
-freedom if you have a choice between
+freedom, if you have a choice between
00:35:32.640 --> 00:35:34.400
keeping the community strong in
@@ -2131,52 +2017,52 @@ defending freedom
and getting more people to participate
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:40.720
-in the development
+in the development,
-00:35:40.720 --> 00:35:43.839
-you've got to choose the freedom it is
+00:35:40.720 --> 00:35:42.890
+you've got to choose the freedom.
-00:35:43.839 --> 00:35:44.400
-very
+00:35:42.890 --> 00:35:44.400
+It is very
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:48.400
easy for free software projects to
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:52.320
-subordinate freedom to other criteria
+subordinate freedom to other criteria,
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.359
-and once that happens it's
+and once that happens, it's
00:35:55.359 --> 00:35:58.079
easy for those who don't care much about
00:35:58.079 --> 00:35:58.720
-freedom
+freedom,
00:35:58.720 --> 00:36:00.800
-such as sometimes companies that might
+such as, sometimes companies that might
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:02.640
offer you some money
00:36:02.640 --> 00:36:08.160
-to purchase your soul
+to purchase your soul,
00:36:08.160 --> 00:36:10.560
not that there are really things that
00:36:10.560 --> 00:36:14.240
-exist called souls it's a metaphor but
+exist called souls, it's a metaphor, but
00:36:14.240 --> 00:36:16.560
it's an important metaphor for something
00:36:16.560 --> 00:36:18.800
-important
+important.
00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:20.880
-people in the community have to be
+People in the community have to be
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:24.320
thinking about freedom
@@ -2185,37 +2071,37 @@ thinking about freedom
when they make decisions about what is
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:31.839
-wise to do
+wise to do.
00:36:31.839 --> 00:36:36.480
-the decision to devel to set up non-glpa
+The decision to set up NonGNU ELPA
-00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.839
-has a drawback it was a compromise now a
+00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.357
+has a drawback, it was a compromise.
-00:36:39.839 --> 00:36:41.520
-lot of people will
+00:36:39.357 --> 00:36:41.520
+Now, a lot of people will
00:36:41.520 --> 00:36:44.560
tell you that I am uncompromising and
00:36:44.560 --> 00:36:46.240
-say that that's a flaw
+say that, that's a flaw.
00:36:46.240 --> 00:36:48.720
-well they're wrong I make little
+Well, they're wrong. I make little
00:36:48.720 --> 00:36:50.320
compromises
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.040
-very often and occasionally I make a
+very often, and occasionally I make a
00:36:53.040 --> 00:36:55.359
-medium-sized compromise
+medium-sized compromise.
00:36:55.359 --> 00:36:58.880
-the compromise is in the past we wanted
+The compromise is, in the past we wanted
00:36:58.880 --> 00:36:59.359
to get
@@ -2223,80 +2109,80 @@ to get
00:36:59.359 --> 00:37:01.599
copyright assignments for the packages
-00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:02.400
-in gnu
+00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:03.823
+in GNU ELPA,
-00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:06.240
-elpa so that we could move them into
+00:37:03.823 --> 00:37:06.240
+so that we could move them into
00:37:06.240 --> 00:37:09.119
-core Emacs and of course sometimes we
+core Emacs, and of course, sometimes we
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:11.200
-move packages in the other direction
+move packages in the other direction,
00:37:11.200 --> 00:37:14.480
-that way we are where we distribute a
+that way where we distribute a
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:16.160
-given package
+given package,
00:37:16.160 --> 00:37:18.160
is something we can decide purely
00:37:18.160 --> 00:37:20.880
-technically
+technically.
00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:25.200
-and however make insisting on getting
+And however make insisting on getting
00:37:25.200 --> 00:37:26.800
copyright assignments for all the
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:28.640
-packages in gnu elpa
+packages in GNU ELPA
00:37:28.640 --> 00:37:32.079
-meant that we had to say sorry no
+meant that we had to say "sorry, no,
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:35.119
-we will not install that packages in
+we will not install that
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:38.560
-packaging dewey lpa unless the
+package in GNU ELPA, unless the
-00:37:38.560 --> 00:37:41.520
-authors sign copyright assignments and
+00:37:38.560 --> 00:37:40.957
+authors sign copyright assignments".
-00:37:41.520 --> 00:37:44.079
-sometimes that's a lot of trouble
+00:37:40.957 --> 00:37:44.079
+And sometimes that's a lot of trouble.
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:47.520
-well non-glpa
+Well, NonGNU ELPA
-00:37:47.520 --> 00:37:50.160
-won't require copyright assignments if
+00:37:47.520 --> 00:37:50.123
+won't require copyright assignments.
-00:37:50.160 --> 00:37:51.520
-there's a free package
+00:37:50.123 --> 00:37:51.520
+If there's a free package,
00:37:51.520 --> 00:37:54.560
-we can make whatever changes presumably
+we can make whatever changes, presumably
00:37:54.560 --> 00:37:57.200
-small otherwise we would probably say
+small, otherwise, we would probably say
00:37:57.200 --> 00:38:00.560
-we don't have time but and then
+we don't have time, and then
00:38:00.560 --> 00:38:04.560
-put it in but it does have the drawback
+put it in. But it does have the drawback
00:38:04.560 --> 00:38:05.599
-that
+that,
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:07.680
-we in general we won't be able to move
+in general we won't be able to move
00:38:07.680 --> 00:38:09.119
those packages
@@ -2308,49 +2194,49 @@ into core Emacs without
getting the legal papers then that we
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:20.160
-didn't get before
+didn't get before.
00:38:20.160 --> 00:38:24.320
-how do you see the future of gdu Emacs
+"How do you see the future of GNU Emacs?"
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.599
-uh I don't see the future
+I don't see the future.
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.839
I used to say that my crystal ball is
00:38:29.839 --> 00:38:31.680
-cloudy today
+cloudy today,
00:38:31.680 --> 00:38:35.680
-unfortunately that has another
+unfortunately, that has another
-00:38:35.680 --> 00:38:39.040
-meaning which is quite ironic uh we
+00:38:35.680 --> 00:38:38.423
+meaning which is quite ironic.
-00:38:39.040 --> 00:38:41.200
-certainly don't want
+00:38:38.423 --> 00:38:41.200
+We certainly don't want
00:38:41.200 --> 00:38:44.800
our lives to be
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:48.480
-somewhere in a cloud because
+somewhere in a cloud, because
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:51.119
-that clouds your mind and then people
+that clouds remind, and then people
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:51.599
start
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.240
-cheating you and taking advantage of you
+cheating you and taking advantage of you,
00:38:54.240 --> 00:38:56.880
-and it's horrible
+and it's horrible.
00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:00.160
-but uh I don't see the future I just
+But I don't see the future, I just
00:39:00.160 --> 00:39:02.720
can be sure from the past that there
@@ -2365,28 +2251,28 @@ challenges where some of the people
involved want to make a big compromise
00:39:10.720 --> 00:39:12.960
-that isn't worth it
+that isn't worth it,
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:16.880
-and they some they may even get the
+and they may even get the
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.079
impression that it's
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:21.200
-up to them well actually
+up to them. Well, actually
00:39:21.200 --> 00:39:24.480
Emacs has appointed maintainers just as
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:27.440
-every gdu package does and they are the
+every GNU package does, and they are the
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:29.280
ones in charge of developing that
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:30.480
-package
+package,
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:34.400
and this is for a good reason
@@ -2398,7 +2284,7 @@ because the appointed maintainers take
responsibility
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:42.240
-to carry out the gnu project policies
+to carry out the GNU project policies,
00:39:42.240 --> 00:39:44.079
and most important of all
@@ -2407,124 +2293,124 @@ and most important of all
are the ones that make the whole system
00:39:46.160 --> 00:39:47.520
-work together
+work together,
00:39:47.520 --> 00:39:52.640
and the ethical standards
00:39:52.640 --> 00:39:59.920
-to respect freedom and defend freedom
+to respect freedom and defend freedom.
00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:02.240
-is there any plan to move more packages
+"Is there any plan to move more packages
00:40:02.240 --> 00:40:04.960
-from core Emacs into elpa
+from core Emacs into ELPA?"
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.480
-uh I don't know uh
+I don't know
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.440
-whether there is a plan I suppose if
+whether there is a plan, I suppose if
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:12.720
-there's a plan
+there's a plan,
00:40:12.720 --> 00:40:15.680
-we probably would have done it if there
+we probably would have done it. If there
00:40:15.680 --> 00:40:16.960
-had been a plan
+had been a plan,
-00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:19.839
-some have been moved I don't see this as
+00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:18.657
+some have been moved.
-00:40:19.839 --> 00:40:20.319
-a
+00:40:18.657 --> 00:40:20.319
+I don't see this as a
00:40:20.319 --> 00:40:22.400
-fundamentally important issue it's a
+fundamentally important issue, it's a
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:24.160
matter of what's convenient for
00:40:24.160 --> 00:40:26.640
-the users and their advantages and
+the users, and their advantages and
00:40:26.640 --> 00:40:29.599
-disadvantages to each choice
+disadvantages to each choice.
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:32.800
-what is your opinion on higher education
+"What is your opinion on higher education
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:35.760
-uh requiring non-free software for
+requiring non-free software, for
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:36.720
-instance
+instance…"
00:40:36.720 --> 00:40:40.400
-well I wouldn't I wouldn't
+Well, I wouldn't
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:43.440
-matriculate in a school which did that
+matriculate in a school which did that,
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:50.960
-unless I saw a way I could refuse
+unless I saw a way I could refuse.
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:54.960
-now of course I do this
+Now, of course, I do this
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:57.760
-because I can get away with it and
+because I can get away with it, and
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.240
therefore my doing it is extremely
00:41:00.240 --> 00:41:04.960
-important to show somebody does resist
+important to show somebody does resist.
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:08.400
I don't expect most people who support
00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:09.359
-free school
+free school,
00:41:09.359 --> 00:41:12.319
who advocate free software to go that
00:41:12.319 --> 00:41:13.599
-far
+far.
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:17.760
-uh I published an article in the spring
+I published an article in the spring
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:21.040
entitled saying no even once
00:41:21.040 --> 00:41:24.640
-is helping saying no to non-free
+is helping, saying no to non-free
00:41:24.640 --> 00:41:25.359
software
00:41:25.359 --> 00:41:29.040
-even once because
+even once, because
00:41:29.040 --> 00:41:32.240
-the more you do it the more you help but
+the more you do it, the more you help, but
00:41:32.240 --> 00:41:34.640
even doing it a little in a way that
00:41:34.640 --> 00:41:36.640
-other people notice
+other people notice,
00:41:36.640 --> 00:41:39.920
-is starting to help so
+is starting to help. So,
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:43.440
-uh please don't think that your choices
+please don't think that your choices
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.119
are either
@@ -2536,13 +2422,13 @@ be as firm and stubborn as I am
or just give up and let yourself drift
00:41:52.240 --> 00:41:56.240
-helplessly as if you had no volition
+helplessly as if you had no volition.
00:41:56.240 --> 00:41:58.079
-there are a lot of points in between
+There are a lot of points in between
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:00.720
-there and you can surely
+there, and you can surely
00:42:00.720 --> 00:42:04.079
manage to say no some of the time
@@ -2551,109 +2437,109 @@ manage to say no some of the time
and show people an example of saying no
00:42:07.839 --> 00:42:11.040
-some of the time for instance you could
+some of the time, for instance, you could
00:42:11.040 --> 00:42:12.720
-say to people
+say to people,
00:42:12.720 --> 00:42:15.520
-you know I hate the fact that my school
+"You know I hate the fact that my school
00:42:15.520 --> 00:42:16.000
makes me
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:20.400
-use zoom uh so whenever
+use Zoom, so whenever
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:22.240
-I'm not being forced I'm not going to
+I'm not being forced, I'm not going to
00:42:22.240 --> 00:42:25.760
-use it
+use it".
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:29.200
-or I hate the fact that the only way I
+Or "I hate the fact that the only way I
00:42:29.200 --> 00:42:31.200
can talk to that group of people
00:42:31.200 --> 00:42:35.200
-is resume but when
+is with Zoom,
00:42:35.200 --> 00:42:38.400
but for anything else I will feel better
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:40.079
-about myself if I don't
+about myself if I don't".
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:42.880
-see lots of ways to say no some of the
+See, lots of ways to say no some of the
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:44.000
-time
+time,
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:47.040
-and yield some of the time
+and yield some of the time,
00:42:47.040 --> 00:42:50.960
-and when you try saying no occasionally
+and when you try saying no occasionally,
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.920
you may just develop the ability to say
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:56.400
-no more often
+no more often.
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:58.800
-now whether you would ever get to be as
+Now, whether you would ever get to be as
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:00.640
-stubborn as I am
+stubborn as I am?
00:43:00.640 --> 00:43:04.480
-I don't know but what I find is that
+I don't know, but what I find is that
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:08.480
I like the fact that I've never made
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:12.480
-this kind of compromise
+this kind of compromise.
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.839
-I feel I have a reputation to maintain
+I feel I have a reputation to maintain,
00:43:15.839 --> 00:43:19.319
-nobody's forcing me but I get
+nobody's forcing me, but I get
00:43:19.319 --> 00:43:21.119
satisfaction
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:24.319
-out of maintaining out of being able to
+out of maintaining…, out of being able to
00:43:24.319 --> 00:43:26.400
continue to say
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:30.880
-I will not
+I will not.
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:34.480
-you are now unmuted and that also
+And that also
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:40.480
-can happen at various different levels
+can happen at various different levels,
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:43.520
-so you can get that satisfaction
+so, you can get that satisfaction
00:43:43.520 --> 00:43:46.640
of fully maintaining a refusal
00:43:46.640 --> 00:43:54.400
-that applies only to certain areas
+that applies only to certain areas.
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:57.040
-citizens uh noon already let's maybe
+(Amin: since it's noon already, let's maybe
00:43:57.040 --> 00:43:58.880
take one or two more questions and then
@@ -2662,124 +2548,115 @@ take one or two more questions and then
break for
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:03.200
-the lunch break okay thank you
-
-00:44:03.200 --> 00:44:06.000
-how often do you personally use Emacs as
+the lunch break) Okay. (Amin: Thank you).
-00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:07.440
-the
+00:44:03.200 --> 00:44:05.757
+"How often do you personally use Emacs?"
-00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.640
-lowest question now uh
+00:44:05.757 --> 00:44:10.640
+is the lowest question now.
00:44:10.640 --> 00:44:16.640
-well I use it most of the day
+Well, I use it most of the day.
00:44:16.640 --> 00:44:18.880
-I occasionally do use other things in
+I occasionally do use other things, in
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:20.160
-fact I occasionally edit with
+fact, I occasionally edit with
00:44:20.160 --> 00:44:21.599
-libreoffice
+LibreOffice,
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.240
-I occasionally use media players I
-
-00:44:24.240 --> 00:44:25.280
-occasionally
+I occasionally use media players,
-00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:29.040
-uh
-
-00:44:29.040 --> 00:44:32.480
+00:44:24.240 --> 00:44:32.480
I occasionally ssh to a machine and type
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:34.000
-some commands on it
+some commands on it,
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:35.440
which occasionally includes running
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:42.319
-Emacs on it
+Emacs on it.
00:44:42.319 --> 00:44:45.760
-I read pdf files a lot
+I read PDF files a lot,
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:47.520
would be nice if you could get those
00:44:47.520 --> 00:44:49.599
-into Emacs so that I could read them
+into Emacs, so that I could read them
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.240
-with Emacs commands
+with Emacs commands,
00:44:52.240 --> 00:44:55.040
-and I maybe even edit them with the max
+and I maybe even edit them with the Emacs
00:44:55.040 --> 00:44:56.160
commands
00:44:56.160 --> 00:44:59.440
-when they can be edited I use
+when they can be edited. I use
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.960
-uh journal sometimes
+Xournal sometimes
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:10.079
-to write on a pdf file
+to write on a PDF file.
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.160
-are there any more interesting projects
+"Are there any more interesting projects
00:45:12.160 --> 00:45:13.760
you have in mind over and above
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:18.400
-non-gnu elpa uh
+NonGNU ELPA?"
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:22.079
-I can't think of one right now well
+I can't think of one right now, well,
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:25.520
-there are things there are things that
+there are things that
00:45:25.520 --> 00:45:27.119
-the gnu project needs
+the GNU project needs
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.560
-doing there are packages that don't have
+doing, there are packages that don't have
00:45:30.560 --> 00:45:32.319
maintainers or could use
00:45:32.319 --> 00:45:35.839
-more maintainers uh
+more maintainers.
00:45:35.839 --> 00:45:38.880
-talk with maintainers at canoe.org
+Talk with maintainers@gnu.org,
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:42.000
-and the assistant candusences will
+and the assistant GNUisances will
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:44.960
help you find a package where you can do
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:48.400
-good
+good.
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.560
-not for beginners though you got to get
+Not for beginners though,
00:45:50.560 --> 00:45:52.079
you got to learn
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:55.599
-uh a substantive substantial level of
+a substantive substantial level of
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.160
capacity to develop and debug programs
@@ -2787,14 +2664,14 @@ capacity to develop and debug programs
00:45:58.160 --> 00:45:59.440
before you can
-00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:02.800
-be a maintainer uh have I ever looked at
+00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:00.823
+be a maintainer.
-00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:04.480
-maggot
+00:46:00.823 --> 00:46:04.480
+"Have I ever looked at Magit?"
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:08.400
-uh no I haven't
+No, I haven't,
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:11.920
but I believe
@@ -2803,31 +2680,28 @@ but I believe
work is being done to get it put into
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-Emacs
+Emacs,
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-and at that point I'll give it a try
+and at that point I'll give it a try.
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I do not want to share my configuration
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-files
-
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-they're personal but
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+files they're personal.
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-how about if we end this now
+How about if we end this now?
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-you are now unmuted sounds good to me
+(Amin: sounds good to me,
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-thank you very much richard for joining
+thank you very much Richard for joining
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-in for live questions
+in for live questions.)
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-okay
+Okay.