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diff --git a/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--12-one-big-ass-org-file-or-multiple-tiny-ones-finally-the-end-of-the-debate--leo-vivier-autogen.vtt b/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--12-one-big-ass-org-file-or-multiple-tiny-ones-finally-the-end-of-the-debate--leo-vivier-autogen.vtt index dbced2db..f5160bd9 100644 --- a/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--12-one-big-ass-org-file-or-multiple-tiny-ones-finally-the-end-of-the-debate--leo-vivier-autogen.vtt +++ b/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--12-one-big-ass-org-file-or-multiple-tiny-ones-finally-the-end-of-the-debate--leo-vivier-autogen.vtt @@ -1,73 +1,72 @@ WEBVTT 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:01.520 -I mean we are ahead of the schedule a +([Amin Bandali]: I mean, we are ahead of +the schedule 00:00:01.520 --> 00:00:03.679 -little bit but I mean we also was a +a little bit, but I mean we also were 00:00:03.679 --> 00:00:05.680 -little bit earlier in the day +a little bit earlier in the day. 00:00:05.680 --> 00:00:09.040 -so yeah yeah I'd say that's fine go for +Yeah, I'd say that's fine. Go for it. 00:00:09.040 --> 00:00:10.800 -it take it away +Take it away.) 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:14.240 -sure thank you so am I live already +[Leo Vivier]: Sure. Thank you. So am I live already? 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:16.640 -you are now unmuted um yep your life +[Amin]: Yep, you're live. 00:00:16.640 --> 00:00:17.359 -hello +[Leo]: Hello 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:18.880 -spell it so I'll just start the timer to +Splendid. So I'll just start the timer to 00:00:18.880 --> 00:00:20.720 -make sure that I don't go overboard +make sure that I don't go overboard. 00:00:20.720 --> 00:00:22.720 -all right so you are now muted okay good +All right. ([BBB:] you are now muted) Okay, good 00:00:22.720 --> 00:00:24.160 -to go now so +to go now. 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:26.960 -hello again everyone so I hope you had +Hello again, everyone! I hope you had, 00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:28.240 -well quite a lot of talks +well, quite a lot of talks 00:00:28.240 --> 00:00:30.880 -ever since the last one I did and all +ever since the last one I did, and all 00:00:30.880 --> 00:00:32.000 more interesting 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:35.040 -uh one after the other so um +one after the other. 00:00:35.040 --> 00:00:36.559 -you know I'm a bit in a bit of a weird +You know, I'm a bit in a bit of a weird 00:00:36.559 --> 00:00:38.239 -spot right now because I'm supposed to +spot right now, because I'm supposed to -00:00:38.239 --> 00:00:39.760 -be presenting to you as you can see on - -00:00:39.760 --> 00:00:40.239 -my screen +00:00:38.239 --> 00:00:40.239 +be presenting to you (as you can see on +my screen) 00:00:40.239 --> 00:00:42.879 -one big-ass awk file multiple tiny ones +"One big-ass Org file or multiple tiny ones: 00:00:42.879 --> 00:00:44.960 -finally the end of the debate +finally, the end of the debate," 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:48.160 and it sounds about as clickbaity @@ -76,19 +75,19 @@ and it sounds about as clickbaity as you can possibly get with those 00:00:49.760 --> 00:00:51.280 -topics and by the way +topics. By the way, 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:54.000 -uh credit where credit is due the title +credit where credit is due, the title 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:55.760 -is not mine it's actually from bastian +is not mine. It's actually from Bastien 00:00:55.760 --> 00:00:57.039 -gary the current old +Guerry, the current Org 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:00.719 -maintainer and yeah I wanted to +maintainer. Yeah, I wanted to 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:03.199 talk to you a little bit today about @@ -97,190 +96,180 @@ talk to you a little bit today about this question because 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.600 -if you are used to going on our slash - -00:01:07.600 --> 00:01:09.040 -emacs you know the subreddit that we +if you are used to going on +reddit.com/r/emacs , -00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:09.600 -have +00:01:07.600 --> 00:01:09.600 +you know the subreddit that we +have, 00:01:09.600 --> 00:01:11.840 -if you go on I can use often you know +if you go on Hacker News often, you know 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:13.200 it's a question that 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:16.000 -you see pop-up every once in a while +you see pop up every once in a while. 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:17.520 -should I be using +"Should I be using 00:01:17.520 --> 00:01:20.640 -one big file or should I be using - -00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:24.159 -a lot of tiny files and I believe you +one big file, or should I be using -00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:24.799 +00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:24.799 +a lot of tiny files?" I believe you know 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:27.600 -we've got defenders on both sides if I +we've got defenders on both sides. If I 00:01:27.600 --> 00:01:29.520 -just show you one examples +just show you one example... 00:01:29.520 --> 00:01:32.479 -so we have carl voigt okay so he's one +We have Karl Voit. He's one 00:01:32.479 --> 00:01:35.280 -of the organizers for the conference +of the organizers for the conference. 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:37.920 -he hears the guy who probably has the +He is the guy who probably has the 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:40.000 -biggest augment files +biggest Org Mode files 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.000 -right now in all the people I know and +right now in all the people I know, and 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:43.759 god knows I know plenty of people use 00:01:43.759 --> 00:01:44.479 -old mode +Org Mode. 00:01:44.479 --> 00:01:46.880 -but if you just look at this line I hope +But if you just look at this line--I hope 00:01:46.880 --> 00:01:48.320 -it's not too small you just +it's not too small; you just 00:01:48.320 --> 00:01:51.360 -make it a little larger but +make it a little larger--but 00:01:51.360 --> 00:01:56.719 -carl basically has a file with 126 +Carl basically has a file with 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:01.759 -000 lines and I'm just going to pause +126,000 lines. I'm just going to pause 00:02:01.759 --> 00:02:04.560 and try to have you imagine how large a 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:06.399 -file it actually is +file it actually is. 00:02:06.399 --> 00:02:08.399 -just think about all of these lines +Just think about all of these lines 00:02:08.399 --> 00:02:10.000 -being tasked in your days +being tasks in your days. -00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.080 -think about all those lines being about - -00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:13.200 +00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:13.200 +Think about all those lines being about little thoughts 00:02:13.200 --> 00:02:14.400 you know that you've had throughout the 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:17.200 -day or project that you were working on +day or project that you were working on. 00:02:17.200 --> 00:02:19.680 -and it's massive and you know one of the - -00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:20.720 -problem that +It's massive. You know one of the -00:02:20.720 --> 00:02:23.920 -uh calvoit actually approaches on +00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:23.920 +problems that Karl Voit actually +approaches on 00:02:23.920 --> 00:02:27.680 this topic is that it takes him roughly 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:30.160 -20 seconds to get his old agenda going +20 seconds to get his Org agenda going, 00:02:30.160 --> 00:02:32.400 -which is a massive amount of time +which is a massive amount of time. 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:35.680 -I mean we have very fast computers now +I mean, we have very fast computers now. 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:37.720 -you know ever since e-max was created in - -00:02:37.720 --> 00:02:39.200 -1976 +You know, ever since Emacs was created in -00:02:39.200 --> 00:02:42.319 -computers I have no idea how much faster +00:02:37.720 --> 00:02:42.319 +1976, computers... I have no idea how much faster 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:43.440 -they've gotten +they've gotten. 00:02:43.440 --> 00:02:47.760 -and yet you know for earth 1000 lines +And yet, you know, for 100,000 lines, 00:02:47.760 --> 00:02:49.599 -emac seems to be choking and it's +Emacs seems to be choking. It's 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:51.120 -certainly not reasonable in a way to +certainly not reasonable, in a way, to 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:52.720 have to wait 20 seconds 00:02:52.720 --> 00:02:55.360 -just for your entire file to be passed +just for your entire file to be parsed. 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:57.040 -so basically what I want to do +So basically what I want to do-- 00:02:57.040 --> 00:02:58.480 -and by the way I forgot to do the +By the way, I forgot to introduce the 00:02:58.480 --> 00:03:00.879 -presentation but I'm leova I did this +presentation, but I'm Leo Vivier. I did this 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:02.879 -before for those who were around +before, for those who were around. 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:05.519 -and I um help maintain a software which +I help maintain a software which 00:03:05.519 --> 00:03:06.640 -is called orgrom +is called org-roam, 00:03:06.640 --> 00:03:08.560 and that's the expertise that I have on 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:09.840 -the topic +the topic. 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:11.760 -actually if you go online I do have a +Actually, if you go online, I do have a 00:03:11.760 --> 00:03:13.599 -github page I will make sure that you +Github page. I will make sure that you 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:15.440 -have all the links available afterwards +have all the links available afterwards. 00:03:15.440 --> 00:03:18.640 -but I do publish my init files +But I do publish my init files, 00:03:18.640 --> 00:03:20.720 -and you can see if you scroll at the +and you can see, if you scroll at the 00:03:20.720 --> 00:03:22.319 -bottom I have a little demonstration +bottom, I have a little demonstration 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:23.200 which shows you @@ -288,488 +277,465 @@ which shows you 00:03:23.200 --> 00:03:25.519 the fancy things that I can do with my -00:03:25.519 --> 00:03:27.440 -old mood setup and that might be even - -00:03:27.440 --> 00:03:28.159 +00:03:25.519 --> 00:03:28.159 +Org Mode setup. That might be even interesting 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:30.720 -in lights of the talk you've just had +in light of the talk you've just had 00:03:30.720 --> 00:03:32.319 -about gtd stuff because +about GTD stuff, because 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:34.080 -the first one is about how I end all my +the first one is about how I handle my 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:36.159 -projects the second one is about +projects, the second one is about 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.680 -the flow from a task uh as I work on it - -00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:40.000 -so +the flow from a task as I work on it... -00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:41.519 -I won't spend too much time on this but +00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:41.519 +So I won't spend too much time on +this, but 00:03:41.519 --> 00:03:43.120 -basically that's my expertise +basically that's my expertise. 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.440 -I have spent eight years working with +I have spent eight years 00:03:45.440 --> 00:03:46.959 -working with org mode +working with Org Mode, 00:03:46.959 --> 00:03:48.959 three of them actually thinking about 00:03:48.959 --> 00:03:50.720 -writing packages +writing packages. 00:03:50.720 --> 00:03:54.080 -and the thing is if I go into a little +The thing is, if I go into a little 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:55.680 -bit of details and obviously it's only a +bit of detail (and obviously it's only a 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:57.760 -lighting talk so I won't have time to +lighting talk, so I won't have time to 00:03:57.760 --> 00:04:00.720 -actually go really in depth about it but +actually go really in depth about it), but 00:04:00.720 --> 00:04:01.840 there is something 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:03.599 -in the ultimate libraries which is +in the Org Mode library which is 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:05.200 -called org elements +called org-element. 00:04:05.200 --> 00:04:07.000 -and you have the name right there org +You have the name right there, 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:08.319 -element.el - -00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:11.439 -dot el being for e-lisp file and as you +org-element.el, -00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:12.319 -can see +00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:12.319 +.el being for Elisp file. As you +can see, 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:14.799 -the page it's on the work wiki so it's +the page is on the Worg wiki, so it's 00:04:14.799 --> 00:04:16.239 -accessible by everyone +accessible by everyone. 00:04:16.239 --> 00:04:19.280 -but it's basically the api that +It's basically the API that 00:04:19.280 --> 00:04:23.759 -org mode uses to pass all mode files +Org Mode uses to parse Org Mode files. 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:26.400 -so for those who don't know passing +For those who don't know, parsing 00:04:26.400 --> 00:04:27.199 means basically 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:29.360 -checking a file checking all the content +checking a file, checking all the contents 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:30.880 -of the file and extracting all the +of the file, and extracting all the 00:04:30.880 --> 00:04:32.880 -information that we need from that file +information that we need from that file. 00:04:32.880 --> 00:04:34.960 -and as you can imagine you all have +As you can imagine, you all have 00:04:34.960 --> 00:04:36.560 -augmented files in your mind +Org Mode files in your mind, 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:38.240 -well you know they can be fairly complex +well you know they can be fairly complex. 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:39.840 -you know you can have properties +You can have properties, 00:04:39.840 --> 00:04:41.759 -you can have contextual information like +you can have contextual information, like 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:43.040 if you write a line 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:45.199 -which starts at column zero which means +which starts at column zero (which means 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:46.560 -at the left +at the left), 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:48.000 -you know it doesn't have the same +it doesn't have the same 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:49.680 -meaning whether or not it is +meaning, whether or not it is 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:52.639 before the beginning of a headline or if 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:54.160 -it is after the beginning of a red line +it is after the beginning of a headline. 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:55.199 -you know it's going to be +It's going to be 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:57.759 -relatively different hierarchically +relatively different, hierarchically 00:04:57.759 --> 00:04:58.960 -speaking +speaking. -00:04:58.960 --> 00:05:01.759 -and so the problem when it comes to the - -00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:02.639 +00:04:58.960 --> 00:05:02.639 +So the problem, when it comes to the question of 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:05.759 many files versus one big file or 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:08.560 -few big files is that we always have to +few big files, is that we always have to 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:09.600 keep in mind 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:12.880 -what org elements want you to do +what org-element wants you to do. 00:05:12.880 --> 00:05:15.680 -and the thing is there are plenty of +The thing is, there are plenty of 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.440 -problems when it comes to passing file - -00:05:17.440 --> 00:05:18.400 -the first one +problems when it comes to parsing files, -00:05:18.400 --> 00:05:21.360 -being obviously that emacs is a single +00:05:17.440 --> 00:05:19.330 +the first one being obviously -00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:22.160 -thread +00:05:19.330 --> 00:05:22.160 +that Emacs is a single-thread 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:24.880 -process or has some threading +process (or has some threading 00:05:24.880 --> 00:05:26.400 -capabilities we're not going to go into +capabilities; we're not going to go into 00:05:26.400 --> 00:05:28.639 -the details right now that's not my goal +the details right now, that's not my goal). 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:32.400 -but it makes it incredibly hard to +It makes it incredibly hard to 00:05:32.400 --> 00:05:35.919 -parallelize uh passing processes as +parallelize parsing processes 00:05:35.919 --> 00:05:39.280 -we currently with the current technology +with the current technology. 00:05:39.280 --> 00:05:42.320 -and so you'd have to imagine that if you +So you'd have to imagine that if you 00:05:42.320 --> 00:05:44.080 -have a very large files if you go back +have a very large file--if you go back 00:05:44.080 --> 00:05:46.479 -to the example of carl voice from before +to the example of Karl Voit from before: 00:05:46.479 --> 00:05:49.199 -100 000 lines that means that you have +100,000 lines--that means that you have 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:50.000 to scan 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.320 -through every single line basically +through every single line, basically. 00:05:52.320 --> 00:05:53.759 -because sometimes let's just say that +Because sometimes... Let's just say that 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:56.080 -you have a property drawer for instance +you have a property drawer, for instance, 00:05:56.080 --> 00:05:59.440 -which tells you oh okay uh this tree +which tells you, oh okay, this tree 00:05:59.440 --> 00:06:03.520 -has the tag foo so the problem is there +has the tag :foo:. So the problem is, there 00:06:03.520 --> 00:06:05.120 are multiple ways for you 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.720 -to define a tag okay so you can use the +to define a tag. You can use the 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:11.840 -usual way which is about wrapping in +usual way, which is about wrapping in 00:06:11.840 --> 00:06:14.000 -columns the tag at the end of a heading +columns the :tag: at the end of a heading. 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:16.160 -so for instance if I I'm not going to +For instance, if I... (I'm not going to 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:17.360 -switch to emac that's going to waste too +switch to Emacs, that's going to waste too 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:18.240 -much time - -00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:21.039 -but that's one way to say your time but +much time) -00:06:21.039 --> 00:06:21.520 -say +00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:21.520 +That's one way to say your tag. +But say, 00:06:21.520 --> 00:06:23.520 -you have tag inheritance which means +you have tag inheritance, which means 00:06:23.520 --> 00:06:25.360 -that when you have a parent with a tag +that when you have a parent with a tag, 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:28.160 you also want the child to inherit the 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:29.520 -tag so if you have +tag. If you have 00:06:29.520 --> 00:06:32.400 -first heading with the typhoo you have +first heading with the tag :foo:, you have 00:06:32.400 --> 00:06:33.680 -the first subheading +the first subheading, 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:37.520 -and the tag foo is implied now imagine +and the tag :foo: is implied. Now imagine 00:06:37.520 --> 00:06:39.680 having to do that with a file that is 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:41.039 -completely nested +completely nested, 00:06:41.039 --> 00:06:44.160 -a file that has maybe 9 10 +a file that has maybe 9, 10, 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:47.280 -11 levels of depth to it +11 levels of depth to it. 00:06:47.280 --> 00:06:49.039 -it's mind-bogglingly complicated for the +It's mind-bogglingly complicated for the 00:06:49.039 --> 00:06:51.039 -software to do that knowing that I've +software to do that, knowing that... I've 00:06:51.039 --> 00:06:52.639 -told you about tags +told you about tags, 00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:55.919 -but any property can be inheritable +but any property can be inheritable. 00:06:55.919 --> 00:06:58.639 -anything like priorities even though why +Anything like priorities, even. Though why 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:00.240 -would you do this +would you do this? 00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:03.759 -you can have groups you can all this and +You can have groups. You can have all this. 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:05.599 -as someone who went through the trouble +And as someone who went through the trouble 00:07:05.599 --> 00:07:07.199 -of optimizing his old agenda so +of optimizing his Org agenda... So 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:08.560 -basically if we go back to the +basically, if we go back to the -00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:11.280 -gifts gifs oh god we've already had this - -00:07:11.280 --> 00:07:12.160 +00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:12.160 +GIFs--oh god we've already had this discussion 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:14.479 -between the git and magit and now I've +between the "git" and "magit" and now I've 00:07:14.479 --> 00:07:16.400 -started jeff and gif and I only have one +started "gif" and "gif" and I only have one 00:07:16.400 --> 00:07:18.080 -more minute left to do so so let's just +more minute left to do so, so let's just 00:07:18.080 --> 00:07:19.599 -say I'm going to say gif +say I'm going to say "gif" 00:07:19.599 --> 00:07:23.599 -just to spice people so if you go on +just to spite people... So if you go on 00:07:23.599 --> 00:07:26.880 -the way I organize my agenda what I did +the way I organize my agenda, what I did 00:07:26.880 --> 00:07:29.120 in order to keep my agenda build time 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:30.960 -under two seconds +under two seconds, 00:07:30.960 --> 00:07:33.440 is that I've rewritten a whole lot of -00:07:33.440 --> 00:07:35.520 -codes to be able to pass my organ gender - -00:07:35.520 --> 00:07:36.560 -files +00:07:33.440 --> 00:07:36.560 +codes to be able to parse my Org agenda +files. 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:40.080 -so the thing is I'm going to be talking +So the thing is, I'm going to be talking 00:07:40.080 --> 00:07:41.360 -more about this later +more about this later. 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:43.440 -I only have let's say one minutes to +I only have, let's say, one minute to 00:07:43.440 --> 00:07:44.479 -conclude +conclude. 00:07:44.479 --> 00:07:47.440 -so as you've gathered I'm not going to +So as you've gathered, I'm not going to 00:07:47.440 --> 00:07:48.479 -be giving you the answer +be giving you the answer right now. 00:07:48.479 --> 00:07:51.039 -right now I'm going to be talking about +I'm going to be talking about 00:07:51.039 --> 00:07:53.440 -orgrum a little later which is about +org-roam a little later, which is about 00:07:53.440 --> 00:07:55.680 following the principle of having many 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:57.759 -small files +small files. 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:01.120 -but as someone who has been using +But as someone who has been using 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:02.960 -one large file to manage my life you +one large file to manage my life, 00:08:02.960 --> 00:08:04.879 -know I'm sitting on the fence +you know, I'm sitting on the fence. 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:08.319 -I do not know which one is the best +I do not know which one is the best, 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:10.560 but I hope that my presentation has 00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:12.240 -given you a little id +given you a little idea 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:15.199 -of what goes on behind the principles - -00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:15.520 -and +of what goes on behind the principles. 00:08:15.520 --> 00:08:16.560 -you also need to think about the +You also need to think about the 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:18.560 philosophy behind the organization of 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:19.120 -your notes +your notes. 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:21.039 -but I hope to be approaching this topic +I hope to be approaching this topic 00:08:21.039 --> 00:08:23.280 with you in about 00:08:23.280 --> 00:08:25.360 -two hours or so maybe one hour actually +two hours or so (maybe one hour actually). 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:27.520 -so I'm actually finished I've decided to +I'm actually finished. I've decided to 00:08:27.520 --> 00:08:28.960 -leave you two minutes of questions +leave you two minutes of questions. 00:08:28.960 --> 00:08:31.520 -so uh if someone could feed me the +If someone could feed me the 00:08:31.520 --> 00:08:32.880 -question that might be best +questions, that might be best, 00:08:32.880 --> 00:08:34.399 -because I don't want oh actually I can +because I don't want... oh actually I can 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:36.240 -just open the year +just open the pad. 00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:39.919 -I can just open it give me a second okay - -00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:40.800 -ah +I can just open it. Give me a second, okay. 00:08:40.800 --> 00:08:43.039 -just loading up huh I might stop showing +Just loading up. I might stop showing 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:43.839 -my screen +my screen. 00:08:43.839 --> 00:08:46.959 -that might make it easier so I mean if +That might make it easier. So I mean if 00:08:46.959 --> 00:08:47.519 you can make 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:49.360 -myself big now on the screen that would +myself big now on the screen, that would 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:52.000 -be splendid yeah sure +be splendid. ([Amin]: yeah sure) 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:55.839 -thank you so uh where are we +Thank you. Where are we... 00:08:55.839 --> 00:08:58.720 -question 12. okay so what's better one +Question 12. Okay, so what's better, one 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:00.160 -big file +big file or...? 00:09:00.160 --> 00:09:02.160 -I did is it did a job to tell me that I +Is it a jab to tell me that I 00:09:02.160 --> 00:09:03.120 haven't answered the question because @@ -778,40 +744,35 @@ haven't answered the question because someone just 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:06.320 -asked me the question well personally if +asked me the question? Well, personally, if 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:08.080 I were to give you a quick answer in -00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:08.560 -like - 00:09:08.560 --> 00:09:11.600 -20 seconds personally I think it's a +20 seconds, personally, I think it's a 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:13.920 -question that is contextually based +question that is contextually based. 00:09:13.920 --> 00:09:15.680 -do you want something that is efficient +Do you want something that is efficient 00:09:15.680 --> 00:09:17.839 -as far as optimization is concerned +as far as optimization is concerned? 00:09:17.839 --> 00:09:21.200 -then you need to think about +Then you need to think about 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:23.440 -this and personally for all the +this. Personally, for all the 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:24.640 -organization that I do - -00:09:24.640 --> 00:09:26.640 -all this stuff all the to-do's that I +organization that I do, -00:09:26.640 --> 00:09:27.760 -handle +00:09:24.640 --> 00:09:27.760 +all this stuff, all the TODOs that I +handle, 00:09:27.760 --> 00:09:30.080 I like to do this in one simple big file @@ -820,118 +781,103 @@ I like to do this in one simple big file because you benefit from all the 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:33.760 -refiling capabilities of log mode +refiling capabilities of Org Mode, -00:09:33.760 --> 00:09:36.320 -so I would do that but for knowledge - -00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:37.200 -management +00:09:33.760 --> 00:09:37.200 +so I would do that. But for knowledge +management, 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:40.080 -for note-taking and all this well I'd +for note-taking and all this, well I'd 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:41.279 much rather follow the 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:42.959 -orgrom way of doing things which is +org-roam way of doing things, which is 00:09:42.959 --> 00:09:44.480 about having many 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:48.240 -small files okay I'm not getting any +small files. I'm not getting any 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.000 -more questions I'm not sure if there is +more questions. I'm not sure if there is 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:52.080 -one on ise that could be fed to me - -00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:53.040 -otherwise I'm - -00:09:53.040 --> 00:09:56.399 -happy to to uh pass over to the next uh +one on IRC that could be fed to me. -00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:57.040 -speaker +00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:57.040 +Otherwise, I'm happy to pass over to +the next speaker. 00:09:57.040 --> 00:09:59.360 -and by the way just before I finish your +By the way, just before I finish, your 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:01.360 -world is a lie it's not a three-piece +world is a lie. It's not a three-piece 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:04.399 -suit I'm wearing jeans below so I hope +suit. I'm wearing jeans below, so I hope 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:06.520 -that satisfies your curiosity - -00:10:06.520 --> 00:10:10.640 -[Music] +that satisfies your curiosity. 00:10:10.640 --> 00:10:12.640 -okay there's one more question appearing +Okay, there's one more question appearing. 00:10:12.640 --> 00:10:15.040 -but otherwise one big file to have +"but otherwise one big file to have 00:10:15.040 --> 00:10:17.680 -everything so I'm putting you on the +everything..." So I'm putting you on the 00:10:17.680 --> 00:10:19.760 -spot I believe it was such a short talk +spot, I believe. It was such a short talk. 00:10:19.760 --> 00:10:21.040 -you know the problem is +You know the problem is, -00:10:21.040 --> 00:10:23.600 +00:10:21.040 --> 00:10:24.720 I just wanted to give you a little - -00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:24.720 -answer +answer. 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:26.959 -a little you know path of thinking on +A little, you know, path of thinking on 00:10:26.959 --> 00:10:27.920 -this topic +this topic. 00:10:27.920 --> 00:10:29.839 -but obviously it's a topic I could be +Obviously it's a topic I could be 00:10:29.839 --> 00:10:31.600 -spending 40 minutes on but +spending 40 minutes on, 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:33.200 -I'm going to be drained you're going to +but I'm going to be drained, you're going to 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:35.120 -be drained nobody's going to be happy if +be drained, nobody's going to be happy 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:35.680 -I do this - -00:10:35.680 --> 00:10:39.440 -so +if I do this. 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:41.200 -and someone asked me if I switch between +Someone asked me if I switch between 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:42.880 -british and french accents +British and French accents. 00:10:42.880 --> 00:10:46.560 -so a little a little secret for you um +A little secret for you: 00:10:46.560 --> 00:10:48.480 -when I'm stressed I tend to relate to a +when I'm stressed, I tend to revert to a 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:49.760 -french accent +French accent, 00:10:49.760 --> 00:10:53.760 so you can measure the amount of stress @@ -942,92 +888,85 @@ that I'm feeling during this talk 00:10:56.160 --> 00:10:58.880 with the amount of h's that I drop and -00:10:58.880 --> 00:11:00.560 -the amount of uh - -00:11:00.560 --> 00:11:02.720 -sheer fright that you can see sometimes +00:10:58.880 --> 00:11:02.720 +the amount of sheer fright that you can +see sometimes 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:04.399 -in my eyes when I'm thinking about what +in my eyes, when I'm thinking about what 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:08.240 -to say next +to say next. 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:10.880 -all right sir so I mean do you believe - -00:11:10.880 --> 00:11:11.360 -we can +All right sir. So, Amin, do you believe -00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:14.240 -leave it at that and uh I'll be you +00:11:10.880 --> 00:11:14.240 +we can leave it at that? I'll be... 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:15.519 -people will see plenty more with me +People will see plenty more of me 00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:17.040 -later on anyway +later on, anyway. -00:11:17.040 --> 00:11:20.000 -right um so looking at the schedule I - -00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:20.640 -think +00:11:17.040 --> 00:11:20.640 +([Amin:] So, looking at the schedule, +I think 00:11:20.640 --> 00:11:23.920 -your talk has until like 202 meaning +your talk has until like 2:02, meaning 00:11:23.920 --> 00:11:27.120 -like five or six minutes from now oh +like five or six minutes from now.) 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:28.000 -right +Oh, right. 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:30.000 -yeah so if you do like to take like one +([Amin:] So if you do like to take one 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:31.680 -or two questions to add two more +or two questions, to add two more 00:11:31.680 --> 00:11:33.920 -questions by all means +questions, by all means.) 00:11:33.920 --> 00:11:37.040 -okay so uh someone has asked me what is +So someone has asked me what is 00:11:37.040 --> 00:11:38.320 -the emacs icon +the Emacs 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:40.640 -icon sorry see another french accent +icon (sorry, see, another French accent) 00:11:40.640 --> 00:11:42.880 -here uh in my status bar +here in my status bar... 00:11:42.880 --> 00:11:44.880 -uh oh sorry I'm not sharing anymore uh I +Oh sorry, I'm not sharing any more. 00:11:44.880 --> 00:11:46.640 -might just share again just so that +I might just share again just so that 00:11:46.640 --> 00:11:49.200 -everyone can catch a glimpse of that +everyone can catch a glimpse of that. 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:53.120 -uh there we go allow +There we go. Allow... 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:54.880 -so it should be so if you could make me +So it should be... So if you could make me 00:11:54.880 --> 00:11:56.240 -small again I'm in I'm not sure if it's +small again, Amin, I'm not sure if it's 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:56.959 going to do it 00:11:56.959 --> 00:12:00.480 -by itself but I do have a little icon +by itself, but I do have a little icon 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:01.839 here in my status bar @@ -1036,16 +975,13 @@ here in my status bar which is basically a way to interact 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:05.760 -with all protocol - -00:12:05.760 --> 00:12:07.279 -uh I'm not going to look for it right +with org-protocol. -00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:09.120 -now but it's uh +00:12:05.760 --> 00:12:09.120 +I'm not going to look for it right now, 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:10.800 -it's a browser extension that is +but it's a browser extension that is 00:12:10.800 --> 00:12:12.399 developed by one of my friends @@ -1053,50 +989,38 @@ developed by one of my friends 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:15.680 over at ranger whose name is v phone and -00:12:15.680 --> 00:12:16.160 -uh - 00:12:16.160 --> 00:12:18.240 -it's very useful I'm someone who uses a +it's very useful. I'm someone who uses a -00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:19.680 -lot of uh +00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:22.320 +lot of Org protocols. And by the way, -00:12:19.680 --> 00:12:22.320 -of uh all protocols and by the way I - -00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:23.040 -used to teach - -00:12:23.040 --> 00:12:25.279 -english okay to high schoolers and they +00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:25.279 +I used to teach English to high +schoolers, and they 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:27.279 were supremely worried 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:29.600 -when I show them my status line and they - -00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:30.800 -so kill +when I showed them my status line and they -00:12:30.800 --> 00:12:34.000 -and explore in my status line so as +00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:34.000 +saw "kill" and "explore" in my status +line. 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:36.560 -fellow emacs users you know that +As fellow Emacs users, you know that -00:12:36.560 --> 00:12:37.839 -obviously kill - -00:12:37.839 --> 00:12:40.880 -means to kill a selection of text and +00:12:36.560 --> 00:12:40.880 +obviously kill means to kill a selection +of text and 00:12:40.880 --> 00:12:44.320 -keep it inside your clipboard +keep it inside your clipboard, 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:47.279 -but for my students who you know they +but for my students, they 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:48.320 were very worried @@ -1105,148 +1029,132 @@ were very worried about what their professor was up to 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:53.600 -doing his nights +during his nights. 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:55.120 -so let's see if we've got more questions +So let's see if we've got more questions. 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:56.560 -so I'm showing you the questions on the +I'm showing you the questions on the 00:12:56.560 --> 00:12:57.920 -rainbow so let's see if +rainbow. Let's see if 00:12:57.920 --> 00:13:00.560 -we've got more so people are posting a +we've got more. People are posting a 00:13:00.560 --> 00:13:01.920 -lot of questions now +lot of questions now. 00:13:01.920 --> 00:13:03.920 -so how do you feel about archiving files +So how do you feel about archiving files 00:13:03.920 --> 00:13:06.399 -in old mode and how can that work in +in Org Mode and how can that work? 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:09.360 -so one of the thing when we think about - -00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:10.240 -optimization +So one of the things when we think about -00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:13.920 -is yes archiving done trees +00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.920 +optimization is: yes, archiving done trees 00:13:13.920 --> 00:13:16.240 is a good idea because it means that if 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:17.920 -we go back to the org element the way it +we go back to the org-element, the way it -00:13:17.920 --> 00:13:18.720 -works - -00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:20.399 -and we'll get into technical details +00:13:17.920 --> 00:13:20.399 +works (and we'll get into technical details 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:22.079 -afterwards I'm giving a presentation +afterwards; I'm giving a presentation 00:13:22.079 --> 00:13:24.079 -about all grown technical suspect +about org-roam technical 00:13:24.079 --> 00:13:26.880 -aspects sorry so I'll have a chance to +aspects, sorry, so I'll have a chance to 00:13:26.880 --> 00:13:28.399 -expand a little more on this +expand a little more on this) 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.360 -but basically all elements need to uh - -00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:32.160 -every time +but basically, org-element needs to... -00:13:32.160 --> 00:13:35.279 -it sees a to do it has to consider it +00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:35.279 +Every time it sees a TODO, it has to +consider it, 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:38.320 -even though it is a done to do why +even though it is a done TODO. Why? 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:40.000 -because let's say for instance that in +Because let's say, for instance, that in 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:41.839 your agenda you want to activate 00:13:41.839 --> 00:13:45.519 -log mode which is going to show the +log mode, which is going to show the 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:48.959 -tasks which are done now you could be - -00:13:48.959 --> 00:13:49.519 -clever +tasks which are done... Now you could be -00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:51.440 -and say oh okay the old agenda does not +00:13:48.959 --> 00:13:51.440 +clever and say, oh okay, the Org agenda does not 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:53.360 -need to show don items so it's not going +need to show done items, so it's not going 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:54.880 -to look for them +to look for them, 00:13:54.880 --> 00:13:56.959 -but the problem is that all elements is +but the problem is that org-element is -00:13:56.959 --> 00:13:58.720 -always called it always needs to pass - -00:13:58.720 --> 00:13:59.519 -the buffer +00:13:56.959 --> 00:13:59.519 +always called. It always needs to parse +the buffer. 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:01.839 -you know uh nicodego as you who is the +You know, Nicolas Goaziou, who is the 00:14:01.839 --> 00:14:03.519 -french developer who's worked a whole +French developer who's worked a whole 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:05.040 -lot on all elements +lot on org-element 00:14:05.040 --> 00:14:07.440 has gone through a lot of trouble to -00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:08.399 -optimize all - -00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:11.600 -elements but the problem is +00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:11.600 +optimize org-element, but the problem is 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:13.279 there's just so much that we can do with 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:14.720 -a concurrent process +a concurrent process. 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:18.560 -and right now it leaves somewhat +Right now it leaves somewhat 00:14:18.560 --> 00:14:21.120 -uh you know things to be desired but +things to be desired, but 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:22.079 -we're working on it +we're working on it. 00:14:22.079 --> 00:14:24.800 -and one more time I feel like I spent +One more time... I feel like I spent 00:14:24.800 --> 00:14:25.839 half of this talk 00:14:25.839 --> 00:14:28.000 -teasing my next talks but I'll be +teasing my next talks, but I'll be 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:29.360 talking more about this @@ -1255,55 +1163,53 @@ talking more about this in my future talks in about one to two 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:32.639 -hours +hours. 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:34.959 -so continuing with questions how big are +So, continuing with questions, how big are 00:14:34.959 --> 00:14:36.079 -my org files +my Org files? 00:14:36.079 --> 00:14:37.760 -so in the background I'm just going to +So in the background, I'm just going to -00:14:37.760 --> 00:14:39.839 +00:14:37.760 --> 00:14:40.720 check how many lines I have in my main - -00:14:39.839 --> 00:14:40.720 -file +file. 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:42.959 -so in my own file so the one I told you +In my own file, so the one I told you 00:14:42.959 --> 00:14:44.079 about where I keep all 00:14:44.079 --> 00:14:47.279 -my to do gtd stuff I have +my TODO GTD stuff, I have 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:50.720 -38 000 lines which is +38,000 lines, which is... 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.000 -you know it's sizable definitely +It's sizable, definitely. 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:57.040 -but I do archive a lot of stuff +But I do archive a lot of stuff, 00:14:57.040 --> 00:14:58.480 so that might be a slight difference 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:00.880 -between uh my myself and carl voight +between myself and Karl Voit, 00:15:00.880 --> 00:15:02.079 even though I don't remember if they 00:15:02.079 --> 00:15:04.880 -actually archive stuff +actually archive stuff. 00:15:04.880 --> 00:15:06.639 -so does it not consume more resources +So does it not consume more resources 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:08.480 and time to load multiple files @@ -1312,136 +1218,125 @@ and time to load multiple files files than a large file or the same 00:15:10.839 --> 00:15:12.560 -content now +content now? 00:15:12.560 --> 00:15:15.839 -theoretically yes having many files +Theoretically, yes, having many files 00:15:15.839 --> 00:15:19.279 open concurrently is slightly slower 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:22.240 -than having one main file opened +than having one main file opened. 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.160 -now the problem is for those of you who +Now the problem is for those of you who 00:15:24.160 --> 00:15:25.279 -have large files +have large files, 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:27.199 you may have noticed that when you are 00:15:27.199 --> 00:15:29.360 -scrolling in a very large file +scrolling in a very large file, 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:32.560 -it starts taking quite a bit of time why +it starts taking quite a bit of time. Why? 00:15:32.560 --> 00:15:34.480 -it's because you know in old mode you +It's because in Org Mode, 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:35.920 -have a lot of content +you have a lot of content 00:15:35.920 --> 00:15:38.959 -that is hidden so when you have +that is hidden, so when you have 00:15:38.959 --> 00:15:40.959 the view mode which hides as much stuff -00:15:40.959 --> 00:15:43.040 -as possible means meaning that you only - -00:15:43.040 --> 00:15:43.600 -see +00:15:40.959 --> 00:15:43.600 +as possible, meaning that you only see 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:45.360 -the top heading and I'm checking the +the top heading--and I'm checking the 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:46.880 -time I mean don't worry I'm I'm finished +time, Amin, don't worry, I'm finished 00:15:46.880 --> 00:15:50.240 -on this one +on this one-- 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:52.160 -when you're hiding a whole lot of stuff - -00:15:52.160 --> 00:15:53.360 -you know orgmo +when you're hiding a whole lot of stuff, -00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:54.720 -needs to keep track or I should say +00:15:52.160 --> 00:15:54.720 +Org Mode needs to keep track, or I +should say, 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:56.959 -emacs needs to keep track of which areas +Emacs needs to keep track of which areas 00:15:56.959 --> 00:15:58.160 of text to show 00:15:58.160 --> 00:16:00.560 -and which areas of text to hide and the +and which areas of text to hide. 00:16:00.560 --> 00:16:02.320 -problem is that when you're hiding stuff +The problem is that when you're hiding stuff-- 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:04.480 -let's say you're moving from line the +let's say you're moving from the 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:06.320 -first heading to the second heading +first heading to the second heading, 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:08.639 -but you've got like 10 000 lines between +but you've got like 10,000 lines between 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:09.839 -those two headings +those two headings-- 00:16:09.839 --> 00:16:11.519 -well he max needs to compute the +well, Emacs needs to compute the 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:13.680 -difference between the two passages +difference between the two passages, 00:16:13.680 --> 00:16:15.680 -and that takes quite a lot of time and - -00:16:15.680 --> 00:16:17.040 -in that that's my +and that takes quite a lot of time. -00:16:17.040 --> 00:16:18.560 -why you might realize that it's a little +00:16:15.680 --> 00:16:18.560 +That's why you might realize that it's +a little -00:16:18.560 --> 00:16:20.560 +00:16:18.560 --> 00:16:21.199 choppy when you start scrolling in large - -00:16:20.560 --> 00:16:21.199 -files +files. 00:16:21.199 --> 00:16:22.560 -anyway I could be answering questions - -00:16:22.560 --> 00:16:24.480 -about org mode for literally two hours +Anyway I could be answering questions -00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:25.120 -straight +00:16:22.560 --> 00:16:25.120 +about Org Mode for literally two hours +straight, 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:26.720 -so I'm gonna end it over to the next +so I'm gonna hand it over to the next 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:28.639 -speakers and I'll be seeing +speakers. I'll be seeing 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:31.759 -seeing you guys a little later thank you +you guys a little later. ([Amin]: Thank you 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:33.440 -very much leo +very much, Leo.) 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:36.959 -oh thank you yes bye +Oh, thank you. ([Amin:] Yes. Bye.) 00:16:36.959 --> 00:16:39.839 -bye +Bye. |