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+My name is Corwin Brust and I
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+will be talking about getting started
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+with Emacs today.
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+I have been an Emacs user for a long
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+0:00:11.200,0:00:15.360
+time. First of all, thanks and a huge
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+0:00:13.040,0:00:18.400
+welcome to the conference
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+from me and
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+and on behalf
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+and back to the other people that
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+0:00:24.720,0:00:29.920
+have been helping to organize.
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+It's been amazing just to be involved
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+with that and just, kind of, see
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+backstage.
+
+0:00:36.399,0:00:42.960
+So I've used a lot of different editors
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+in my time. That's
+
+0:00:42.960,0:00:48.399
+about 25 years as a professional
+
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+software engineer.
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+And most of that time I've been using
+
+0:00:53.920,0:01:00.960
+Emacs. I'll talk a little bit in a minute
+
+0:00:56.160,0:01:04.479
+(if I can ever find my slides)
+
+0:01:00.960,0:01:07.200
+about how I got into Emacs
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+0:01:04.479,0:01:10.240
+but I think if you've used Emacs and a
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+0:01:07.200,0:01:12.640
+lot of other editors for a long time,
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+something that you notice right away is that
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+0:01:15.200,0:01:18.560
+you get good with it in a way that stays
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+meaningful.
+
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+You learn new things. Those things
+
+0:01:20.799,0:01:27.600
+stick with you. You learn how to
+
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+make it do new tricks and then
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+keep doing those tricks.
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+I want to mention that this
+
+0:01:36.799,0:01:41.439
+conference--oops,
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+this talk isn't about
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+how to adjust your
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+0:01:45.600,0:01:50.000
+configuration specifically. I don't have
+
+0:01:47.520,0:01:51.520
+a bunch of good code samples in here.
+
+0:01:50.000,0:01:54.399
+There are other great talks at the
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+0:01:51.520,0:01:57.600
+conference, particularly Andrew's,
+
+0:01:54.399,0:01:59.920
+that I looked at, that looked
+
+0:01:57.600,0:02:01.600
+like they might be more aimed at that
+
+0:01:59.920,0:02:02.240
+"hey, I'm just getting started with Emacs,
+
+0:02:02.240,0:02:07.200
+what are some things to try to make
+
+0:02:05.280,0:02:08.879
+it more comfortable for me starting?" This
+
+0:02:07.200,0:02:09.759
+is about how to think about the problem
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+0:02:08.879,0:02:12.959
+space.
+
+0:02:09.759,0:02:14.080
+Hopefully, a good warm up as we
+
+0:02:12.959,0:02:17.200
+start thinking about some of the
+
+0:02:14.080,0:02:20.000
+lightning talks a little later on.
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+I'm just gonna quickly make sure I
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+0:02:20.000,0:02:24.080
+can see my IRC buffer in case I run into
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+0:02:22.400,0:02:25.680
+time. I didn't get my stopwatch started
+
+0:02:24.080,0:02:29.680
+for this one.
+
+0:02:25.680,0:02:32.879
+So all right, let's dive in.
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+We assume that we want to install
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+0:02:32.879,0:02:36.560
+packages
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+and maybe configure some features. This
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+is particularly from the perspective of
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+where we're working
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+with a bunch of people on a team and we
+
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+want to get something done.
+
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+Some of us probably already have mature
+
+0:02:44.800,0:02:49.280
+Emacs workflows.
+
+0:02:46.560,0:02:50.319
+Others are installing it for the first
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+0:02:49.280,0:02:53.519
+time.
+
+0:02:53.519,0:02:59.280
+So the first question is, you know,
+
+0:02:56.879,0:03:00.879
+in that context: what's the value
+
+0:02:59.280,0:03:02.840
+proposition? Why should I mess with my
+
+0:03:00.879,0:03:05.599
+machine, my mature Emacs
+
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+configuration, and impose my
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+0:03:05.599,0:03:10.239
+ideas over the way somebody else is
+
+0:03:07.440,0:03:12.800
+learning Emacs? Well,
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+it can be.. I'm off my slides here a
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+little bit.
+
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+It can be a little bit
+
+0:03:16.400,0:03:20.400
+tricky
+
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+to learn Emacs. One thing that
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+helps us a lot
+
+0:03:21.440,0:03:26.239
+is if people that we're working with
+
+0:03:24.720,0:03:28.080
+can tell us, kinda, keystroke for
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+0:03:26.239,0:03:30.480
+keystroke at times, what to do and
+
+0:03:28.080,0:03:32.400
+explain what everything is doing.
+
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+Using the same packages can really
+
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+help us working together on a project.
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+Speaking from my personal
+
+0:03:39.840,0:03:42.959
+experience,
+
+0:03:40.720,0:03:45.040
+it took me decades to get to the point
+
+0:03:42.959,0:03:46.720
+where I was excited to program in Emacs
+
+0:03:45.040,0:03:47.840
+Lisp. I've programmed in a lot of programming
+
+0:03:46.720,0:03:51.200
+languages,
+
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+but Lisp wasn't on my list. I looked at
+
+0:03:51.200,0:03:56.319
+my config that I was copy-pasting around
+
+0:03:53.680,0:03:57.519
+from generation after generation of
+
+0:03:56.319,0:03:59.519
+.emacs file or
+
+0:03:57.519,0:04:00.799
+recrafting it from hand and from Internet
+
+0:03:59.519,0:04:03.519
+searches,
+
+0:04:00.799,0:04:05.680
+to get the things that I needed when
+
+0:04:03.519,0:04:07.680
+I would quickly go install Emacs at some
+
+0:04:05.680,0:04:10.959
+new job or contract,
+
+0:04:07.680,0:04:13.680
+and
+
+0:04:10.959,0:04:15.280
+be able to to quickly get through that
+
+0:04:13.680,0:04:17.440
+workflow that caused me to install the
+
+0:04:15.280,0:04:20.560
+program.
+
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+You know, just
+
+0:04:20.560,0:04:25.199
+little simple one-liners that that
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+got committed to memory over decades
+
+0:04:25.199,0:04:28.880
+eventually just led me to a sort of "hey what's going on
+
+0:04:27.120,0:04:31.680
+here." And I credit
+
+0:04:28.880,0:04:33.520
+Jeff Goff, my good friend who died
+
+0:04:31.680,0:04:37.759
+earlier in 2020,
+
+0:04:33.520,0:04:39.280
+for my lifelong love of Emacs.
+
+0:04:37.759,0:04:40.800
+Perhaps EriK and I will talk about that
+
+0:04:39.280,0:04:41.360
+a little bit more in another talk we
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+0:04:40.800,0:04:43.280
+have
+
+0:04:41.360,0:04:44.400
+scheduled, but Jeff was a huge
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+0:04:43.280,0:04:47.280
+influenceo on us
+
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+in a number of ways and a huge
+
+0:04:47.280,0:04:50.720
+contributor to the Raku programming
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+0:04:48.720,0:04:54.000
+language
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+which is very cool.
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+So, understanding how
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+0:04:58.880,0:05:03.120
+to make a good decision about splitting
+
+0:05:01.039,0:05:03.680
+up configuration in a way to share it
+
+0:05:03.120,0:05:05.600
+across
+
+0:05:03.680,0:05:07.600
+people with really different uses of
+
+0:05:05.600,0:05:09.360
+Emacs... That's actually a
+
+0:05:07.600,0:05:11.039
+complicated topic and I want to
+
+0:05:09.360,0:05:12.639
+sort of back off and stare at it for a
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+0:05:11.039,0:05:15.840
+second.
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+I think Emacs is about people, so that
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+means it's about community.
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+And community means we're going to
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+invite disagreement.
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+In fact, that disagreement
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+0:05:29.120,0:05:33.280
+isn't necessarily a road-block to our
+
+0:05:32.160,0:05:35.680
+project. In fact,
+
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+some of the work that a community
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+0:05:35.680,0:05:39.680
+project can invite us to do
+
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+is to get closer to each other by
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+0:05:39.680,0:05:42.080
+inviting those disagreements, by
+
+0:05:40.960,0:05:43.280
+learning from them--learning from
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+different people's
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+styles and from how they argue,
+
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+and thinking about why they have that
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+perspective and
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+what technical benefits that
+
+0:05:53.680,0:05:56.720
+perhaps radical point of view might
+
+0:05:55.360,0:05:59.039
+carry away. Some people are really
+
+0:05:56.720,0:06:01.919
+aggressive arguers, and others
+
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+are very passive and really
+
+0:06:01.919,0:06:06.240
+couch their ideas
+
+0:06:03.120,0:06:08.080
+in distancing terms, to say, "well
+
+0:06:06.240,0:06:12.479
+probably, this is a good idea" or
+
+0:06:08.080,0:06:15.520
+"please double check me."
+
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+Those don't always necessarily indicate
+
+0:06:15.520,0:06:18.479
+how certain a person is, because we're
+
+0:06:17.120,0:06:19.520
+different. We have different ways of
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+communicating
+
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+ideas like certainty or excitement.
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+[Music]
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+When we think about a bunch of really
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+diverse programmers approaching Emacs,
+
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+probably one of our our first really big
+
+0:06:33.280,0:06:39.759
+challenges is just
+
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+to pick what we're going to go
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+after. There are a lot of
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+existing kit
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+installs and things like this.
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+My argument is that you could actually
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+get pretty far
+
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+just trading files around. Maybe the
+
+0:06:56.560,0:07:02.240
+more valuable
+
+0:07:02.240,0:07:06.080
+conversation to have is making the
+
+0:07:04.720,0:07:08.000
+hard decisions about, well,
+
+0:07:06.080,0:07:10.080
+"should we have vertical completion,"
+
+0:07:08.000,0:07:11.759
+should that be the out of the box,
+
+0:07:10.080,0:07:15.680
+and the people that want
+
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+the traditional splayed out over a
+
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+single line completion
+
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+for example in the mode line, those
+
+0:07:19.840,0:07:22.800
+people are going to
+
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+add a line of config
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+to their own setup?
+
+0:07:29.039,0:07:34.080
+The way to get there? I mean, how do we
+
+0:07:32.479,0:07:35.520
+find out what works? We don't want to
+
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+slow down the people that
+
+0:07:35.520,0:07:40.479
+are super productive with Emacs by
+
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+asking them to completely break their
+
+0:07:40.479,0:07:42.560
+workflows and make it easier for new
+
+0:07:42.080,0:07:46.240
+folks.
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+At the same time, we do
+
+0:07:46.240,0:07:51.280
+want to make sure those new people are
+
+0:07:48.960,0:07:52.720
+excited by Emacs and not turned off by
+
+0:07:51.280,0:07:56.319
+having to learn
+
+0:07:52.720,0:07:59.840
+the entire jungle of Emacs
+
+0:07:56.319,0:08:03.120
+history in the form of its
+
+0:07:59.840,0:08:06.160
+unique technical stylings for
+
+0:08:03.120,0:08:09.840
+things like frames,
+
+0:08:06.160,0:08:12.960
+buffers, and other unique
+
+0:08:09.840,0:08:16.240
+Emacs viewpoints on important
+
+0:08:12.960,0:08:18.720
+interface concepts, especially.
+
+0:08:16.240,0:08:19.520
+The encouragement here is to keep
+
+0:08:19.520,0:08:23.280
+the initialization for a project team
+
+0:08:21.680,0:08:25.280
+together as a crucible.
+
+0:08:23.280,0:08:27.680
+Rather than necessarily following our
+
+0:08:25.280,0:08:31.440
+defaults of
+
+0:08:31.440,0:08:35.120
+finding the simplest configuration
+
+0:08:33.279,0:08:37.440
+that generally work and letting people
+
+0:08:35.120,0:08:40.479
+customize it,
+
+0:08:37.440,0:08:42.560
+what if we tried to look
+
+0:08:40.479,0:08:44.159
+for fairly specific configurations that
+
+0:08:42.560,0:08:46.320
+we'll expect essentially all of our
+
+0:08:44.159,0:08:50.320
+developers to be using,
+
+0:08:46.320,0:08:50.320
+at least when they submit bug reports.
+
+0:08:52.839,0:08:58.800
+In particular, with this,
+
+0:08:55.920,0:08:59.839
+I think that degree of
+
+0:08:58.800,0:09:01.680
+experimentation
+
+0:08:59.839,0:09:03.360
+can drive back into the Emacs
+
+0:09:01.680,0:09:04.800
+development process. In the development
+
+0:09:03.360,0:09:07.760
+mailing list...
+
+0:09:04.800,0:09:09.680
+I'm hoping I'll get a timing cue
+
+0:09:07.760,0:09:14.000
+here.
+
+0:09:15.120,0:09:18.320
+In the context of Emacs development as a
+
+0:09:17.760,0:09:20.959
+greater
+
+0:09:18.320,0:09:22.399
+entity, we see some of these struggles.
+
+0:09:20.959,0:09:24.000
+Should we change this default?
+
+0:09:22.399,0:09:26.720
+Sometimes we can have the
+
+0:09:24.000,0:09:29.279
+sense that defaults in Emacs will never
+
+0:09:26.720,0:09:30.959
+change. The conversation is too difficult.
+
+0:09:29.279,0:09:32.560
+I think one thing that can help us get
+
+0:09:30.959,0:09:36.160
+there is evidence
+
+0:09:32.560,0:09:38.880
+that says, "hey my 30- to 40-person project
+
+0:09:36.160,0:09:40.399
+is using this set of bindings and
+
+0:09:38.880,0:09:42.240
+here's what we learned about
+
+0:09:40.399,0:09:43.519
+brand new Emacs users trying to come in
+
+0:09:42.240,0:09:46.800
+and get work done with that."
+
+0:09:46.800,0:09:50.720
+(Amin: Yeah you still have
+
+0:09:49.360,0:09:52.640
+a couple more minutes)
+
+0:09:50.720,0:09:54.160
+Oh, beautiful. Okay, great. I will try to
+
+0:09:52.640,0:09:54.720
+get through my last few slides that i
+
+0:09:54.160,0:09:56.320
+cut
+
+0:09:54.720,0:09:58.320
+in my last walkthrough, but I think i'm
+
+0:09:56.320,0:10:00.640
+going quicker today thank you.
+
+0:09:58.320,0:10:00.640
+Thank you.
+
+0:10:02.000,0:10:06.800
+So let's just recap real quick:
+
+0:10:05.120,0:10:10.399
+in theory, Emacs works
+
+0:10:06.800,0:10:10.720
+out of the box. That means we're
+
+0:10:10.720,0:10:17.120
+free to experiment. We can
+
+0:10:14.079,0:10:20.399
+throw it all away and start over.
+
+0:10:17.120,0:10:23.760
+As an organizational principle...
+
+0:10:26.000,0:10:30.079
+I don't know what I was thinking on that
+
+0:10:27.360,0:10:32.240
+slide, excuse me.
+
+0:10:30.079,0:10:33.440
+Bringing it back around
+
+0:10:32.240,0:10:35.680
+to the free
+
+0:10:33.440,0:10:36.480
+and open source software community,
+
+0:10:35.680,0:10:39.519
+our goal
+
+0:10:36.480,0:10:41.440
+is to enable users
+
+0:10:39.519,0:10:43.040
+to unlock their computers, to do as much
+
+0:10:41.440,0:10:45.600
+with them as possible.
+
+0:10:43.040,0:10:47.680
+That's the context to take with project
+
+0:10:45.600,0:10:49.560
+initialization, but sometimes
+
+0:10:47.680,0:10:50.800
+it could make sense to put...
+
+0:10:49.560,0:10:53.040
+[Music]
+
+0:10:50.800,0:10:54.880
+to put some gloves on. I've thrown up on
+
+0:10:53.040,0:10:57.279
+the screen here just a couple of other
+
+0:10:54.880,0:10:57.920
+ideas, ways to maybe think outside of the
+
+0:10:57.279,0:11:00.399
+box.
+
+0:10:57.920,0:11:01.440
+As you're putting together project
+
+0:11:00.399,0:11:04.959
+nets,
+
+0:11:01.440,0:11:05.519
+my words of encouragement are to experiment
+
+0:11:04.959,0:11:09.200
+with it,
+
+0:11:05.519,0:11:10.560
+try different things, and think really
+
+0:11:09.200,0:11:14.320
+specifically about how
+
+0:11:10.560,0:11:17.760
+different the development users
+
+0:11:14.320,0:11:21.680
+might be from each other as you
+
+0:11:17.760,0:11:23.519
+define standards for configuring
+
+0:11:21.680,0:11:25.360
+the user environment of Emacs
+
+0:11:23.519,0:11:29.120
+specifically for developing
+
+0:11:25.360,0:11:30.480
+on a project. That's pretty much my talk.
+
+0:11:29.120,0:11:32.959
+If there's any time, I would take a
+
+0:11:30.480,0:11:35.040
+couple questions.
+
+0:11:32.959,0:11:36.480
+Thank you for your awesome talk,
+
+0:11:35.040,0:11:38.160
+Corwin.
+
+0:11:36.480,0:11:43.839
+I think we have one or two
+
+0:11:38.160,0:11:43.839
+minutes for a few questions.
+
+0:11:49.519,0:11:53.839
+Do you have the pad open or would you
+
+0:11:52.000,0:11:56.959
+like me to read the questions for you?
+
+0:11:53.839,0:11:58.000
+Oh, I managed to close the
+
+0:11:56.959,0:12:00.560
+pad
+
+0:11:58.000,0:12:03.440
+and I am trying to open it again. All
+
+0:12:00.560,0:12:03.440
+right, there it opened.
+
+0:12:03.519,0:12:06.880
+Bringing it onto a screen where I can
+
+0:12:05.040,0:12:08.399
+see it. Will you read me the
+
+0:12:06.880,0:12:09.360
+first question while I drag windows
+
+0:12:08.399,0:12:12.720
+around, please?
+
+0:12:09.360,0:12:15.600
+(Amin: Sure. It says, "do you use Emacs as a
+
+0:12:12.720,0:12:17.680
+community building tool?")
+
+0:12:15.600,0:12:19.760
+Do I use Emacs as a community building
+
+0:12:17.680,0:12:23.519
+tool, or how do I?
+
+0:12:19.760,0:12:26.720
+(Amin: It just says do you.) Yes, absolutely.
+
+0:12:23.519,0:12:29.920
+I think Emacs is an ambassador to
+
+0:12:26.720,0:12:33.279
+the GNU tool chain.
+
+0:12:29.920,0:12:34.560
+I think that in the fullness of time, we
+
+0:12:33.279,0:12:38.240
+will see an Emacs
+
+0:12:34.560,0:12:42.000
+that makes
+
+0:12:38.240,0:12:42.800
+and that makes iOS and Android and other
+
+0:12:42.000,0:12:45.680
+closed-source
+
+0:12:42.800,0:12:46.320
+tools dream. That's why they mock us
+
+0:12:45.680,0:12:49.200
+and call
+
+0:12:46.320,0:12:51.440
+Emacs an operating system. It's because
+
+0:12:49.200,0:12:53.920
+it could be, if we cared for it to be.
+
+0:12:51.440,0:12:55.680
+It's quite a threatening product
+
+0:12:55.680,0:12:59.440
+from the perspective of how many problem
+
+0:12:57.440,0:13:01.519
+spaces it can address, how many types of
+
+0:12:59.440,0:13:04.399
+users it can satisfy,
+
+0:13:01.519,0:13:05.600
+the things that we can do to make
+
+0:13:04.399,0:13:07.839
+it robust in those
+
+0:13:05.600,0:13:09.760
+environments. I mean, we're always
+
+0:13:07.839,0:13:11.839
+thinking about the weak points, but
+
+0:13:09.760,0:13:14.079
+is Emacs a community building tool? Heck
+
+0:13:11.839,0:13:14.079
+yeah.
+
+0:13:14.639,0:13:18.480
+(Amin: There's like one or two more
+
+0:13:17.920,0:13:21.519
+questions.
+
+0:13:18.480,0:13:22.480
+I think they're more long-form so it
+
+0:13:21.519,0:13:24.000
+might be better
+
+0:13:22.480,0:13:26.880
+if you took them off stream so you
+
+0:13:24.000,0:13:28.959
+could keep the schedule on time.)
+
+0:13:26.880,0:13:31.040
+i would love to take those questions
+
+0:13:28.959,0:13:32.399
+offline. I will respond to you in
+
+0:13:31.040,0:13:33.360
+writing if we don't get to it in a
+
+0:13:32.399,0:13:35.519
+breakout room.
+
+0:13:33.360,0:13:36.639
+Thanks so much for joining us. I
+
+0:13:35.519,0:13:38.000
+can't wait to see the rest of the
+
+0:13:36.639,0:13:42.800
+conference. See you there!
+
+0:13:38.000,0:13:42.800
+(Amin: Awesome. Thank you again so much, Corwin.)
+