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-so we can't hear you right now just to
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-make sure
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-no now we can hello
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-hello morning good morning
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-good morning all right so looks like
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-um you can hear me let's see if the um
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-stream can hear me can someone in Emacs
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-con
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-confirm that they can hear me as well
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-yes awesome yep apparently they can
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-awesome okay great um
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-alrighty let's get started do you guys
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-wanna
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-go ahead with the opening sure
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-sasha do you want to start okay hello
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-and welcome to the second day of Emacs
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-con 2020
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-and you could we've got a whole lot of
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-uh
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-of development talks and coding related
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-talks scheduled for today so you can
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-do a quick scan of the schedule again
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-all the times are very approximate
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-so if you happen to be earlier late for
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-something that you wanted to
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-see we'll figure it out uh we've got um
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-we've got
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-talks about the Emacs development itself
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-as well as
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-developing with Emacs uh and a couple of
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-things that
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-were more user talks but got moved to
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-the second day for timing reasons
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-because there's so much stuff on the
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-first day
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-that's uh that's our quick schedule
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-overview the schedule page has more
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-of course now how do you actually do all
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-that uh
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-leo you want to tell them yep so as
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-yesterday if you want to participate
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-well I suppose you're
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-watching the stream right now so I won't
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-go into detail as far as this is
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-concerned
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-but for the questions and for taking
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-notes we are using an after pad
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-where basically you just go onto the
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-page and you add your questions
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-under the topic which is being discussed
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-at the moment so I'm sure the people
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-will be putting the legs back in the
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-chat I'm just going to do this real
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-quick
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-there we go so now it's in the chat sir
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-we have on isc three rooms that you can
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-use
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-if you want to get in touch with us
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-first if you want to discuss whatever is
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-going on during this stream you can go
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-on
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-imax cont okay and that's where most of
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-the discussion happens
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-we also have #emacsconf-accessible
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-for the people who either can't see or
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-can't hear and you know they
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-we have lovely volunteers who have been
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-describing what has been going on
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-yesterday
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-uh and we really thank you for this
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-because it's really great for getting
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-you know more people giving the chance
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-to more people to follow the conference
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-so thank you so much for this
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-and also if you want to get in touch
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-with us the organizers either if you are
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-a speaker or if you have anything that
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-you'd like us to know about
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-something like a streaming problem or
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-audio problem or anything along those
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-lines you know
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-maybe other programs actually keep them
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-in imax conf we are looking at both
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-charts anyway
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-but to get in touch Emacsconf that oh
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-sorry
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-dash.org and also we had I don't believe
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-we have
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-we had all that much of this yesterday
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-but if you would like to continue the
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-discussion
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-with some of the speakers like you had a
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-topic that you really liked and you'd
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-like to continue talking with them
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-well we invite you to go on jitsi and to
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-create a room
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-uh all together and to have a direct
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-direct chat with the speaker
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-or whichever people might be interested
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-in the topic as well
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-okay I believe that's me I'm not sure to
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-whom I'm handing
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-the rest of the presentation is it to
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-you I mean um yeah sure I can take it
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-um all right so hello everyone welcome
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-to the second day of ux comp 2020 um
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-thank you for being here
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-today and for those of you who were
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-around yesterday thank you for being
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-around yesterday as well
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-um it was an awesome day and you know
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-like leo and sasha said
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-today I think is also very much gonna be
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-another awesome day of great talks
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-um yeah so I'm very much looking forward
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-to it
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-um so yeah the schedule is up um
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-at emacsconf.org/2020/schedule you
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-gotta scroll down
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-to the second day uh let's see people
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-tell me that my mic is quiet
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-um I guess I can on the stream
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-um I think so yeah let me double check
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-this
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-real quick okay I can also try
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-um like increasing the volume here a
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-little bit
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-okay it doesn't sound all that quiet to
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-me just because we are
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-I'm being very familiar right now so the
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-volume
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-must be quite high compared to you no
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-yeah it's it's fine um
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-okay I think it's better now um anyways
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-let's see awesome yeah so yesterday
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-um you know so the setup that I'm using
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-this year for streaming the desktop
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-and the talks is that I use the um
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-script a a script by the fsf forks which
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-they also used for liquor planet
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-and so the thing with this script is
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-that it only takes one audio source by
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-default
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-and so I have that set to the desktop
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-audio so yesterday on the spot I had to
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-improvise to how to get my own audio on
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-the stream and I used mumbo
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-but then that added a delay which was
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-pretty annoying um
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-but today this morning I figured I could
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-use pulse audio's um monitor system to
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-add myself
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-um right on this machine um so that the
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-delay is shorter and
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-seems to be working well so I'm very
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-happy about that um
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-but anyways yeah so let's get on we have
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-the schedule
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-um I'm thanking again the free software
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-foundation tech team
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-um for um you know
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-uh allowing us to use this very big
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-button uh instance
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-um that uh you know for live talks um
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-let's see um I'd like to thank all the
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-volunteers once again
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-um you know uh bavin david bremner
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-david dave o'toole who's been specially
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-helping out a lot
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-in the e-max imax conf dash accessible
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-channel with describing what's going on
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-at any given moment
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-um of course corwin
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-carl boyd and um the two folks that
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-you're seeing right beside me right now
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-uh leon sasha
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-who's been doing so much this year um
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-thank you all very much
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-um yeah let's see oh and also of course
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-our wonderful speakers and audience um
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-which
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-are basically the main thing that this
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-conference
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-is about and is centered about us people
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-talking about their experiences
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-um sharing the things they've learned or
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-they find interesting and
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-for everyone to discussing in chat um
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-yeah so it's awesome
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-uh if you scroll down a little bit on
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-the page
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-um I just want to plug the mailing list
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-right
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-yeah so we have the emacsconf-discuss
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-mailing list
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-once again um which you know is
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-we use for discussions around the
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-conference
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-including announcements before and after
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-it's a fairly quiet list
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-um so if you do like to subscribe um you
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-know
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-you won't get bombarded with emails
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-really um
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-uh yeah so that's something to consider
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-um for example you know
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-after the conference we're gonna be
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-posting all the videos
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-and um that's where I'm gonna be
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-announcing it um at least
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-in in one place one of the places um
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-yeah and I'd also like to draw attention
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-to our
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-conduct guidelines at emacsconf.org
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-conduct
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-which is a series of guidelines and
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-suggestions to to help make the event
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-you know enjoyable and um you know an
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-awesome experience for everyone
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-involved um I think um so I wasn't
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-keeping a close eye on the chat
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-yesterday because it was super busy but
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-I think
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-uh in general you know everything was
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-going pretty well pretty smoothly
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-um so thank you so much everyone for
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-keeping these in mind
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-and um yeah that's it for me let's see
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-if lee or sasha would like to add
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-anything
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-no but if you're all good to go you've
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-said everything and we've said
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-everything
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-have a great day awesome yeah um
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-uh okay someone okay so dave is asking
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-what is the hallway track
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-uh slash on conference um do either of
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-you want to explain that or should I
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-take it
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-uh basically we're gonna have our hands
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-full keeping the keeping the main track
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-running but of course
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-people have all sorts of interesting
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-conversation ideas and sometimes it's
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-nice to do it in real time or with
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-shared screens or things like that
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-so if you're having a conversation and
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-you want to have
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-more of a webcam or screen sharing thing
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-to enrich that discussion feel free to
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-set up a web conference using any of
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-your okay
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-can you do time in practice later all
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-right feel free to
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-set up your own conference c type web
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-conference thingy
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-and um and go find the people who are
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-interested in the same thing
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-and I'll do all that stuff right
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-absolutely
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-thanks sasha yeah so basically the idea
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-is that
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-so you know because of the limited time
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-we kind of have to um keep moving along
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-uh from one talk to the next and you
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-know sometimes there's a lot of awesome
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-questions or discussions going on
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-from for example you know in Emacs con
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-for like for the questions on the pad
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-um yeah so the I guess hallway track or
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-unconference
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-is basically a suggestion for those who
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-are interested
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-to for example set up a jutsu meet room
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-and then you know I'll go join there
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-and discuss the talk if you know if the
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-speaker can join after their talk
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-wonderful
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-um but if not even um you know if if
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-only like you know the audience and
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-folks you know from the emax campfire c
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-would like to join and discuss that
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-definitely works too
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-um yeah that's it um
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-I think oh one other thing that we I
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-guess wanted to mention possibly is that
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-um yesterday I think I noticed that a
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-lot of the questions were getting added
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-um like top to bottom on the pad but um
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-I think the suggestion is to put them
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-like stack them up so like
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-um add new at the new questions on the
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-top um
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-that might make it easier both for you
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-know the people
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-to who are typing the questions um but
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-also for the speaker to
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-sort of have a fixed I guess um point
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-where they're looking at for new
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-questions
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-um so don't put your questions under
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-somebody else's question
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-put it at that top level sort of you
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-know thing
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-right get your own bullet points yeah
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-and on the same topic yesterday some
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-people were a little scared
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-when all the colors were removed it was
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-me basically
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-in order to help the speakers know which
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-is the section that should be looking at
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-at the start of every presentation what
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-I will do is that I will wipe all the
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-colors
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-so all the attributions of modifications
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-to authors
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-so that the streamer sorry the speaker
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-has a little easier time finding their
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-talk in the list
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-right yeah so yeah for for speakers just
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-keep scrolling down until you hit a
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-colorful
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-colorful section um with the author
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-colors
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-and um yeah double check that um that's
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-you know it is your talk
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-um yeah with that said I think that's
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-all of it for our opening remarks right
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-um okay awesome so in that case
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-um we will start queuing up the talks
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-next up right after this opening remark
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-we have Emacs development updates by
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-um one of the co-maintainers of Emacs
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-john weekley
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-um it is a pre-recording and um
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-I don't think john is awake yet because
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-of right he's
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-probably uh still asleep but um he will
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-be
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-um looking taking a look at the
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-questions on the pad
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-later on um so yeah please keep posting
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-your questions on the path for him to
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-later look and try to answer awesome
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-so see you guys in a bit
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