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diff --git a/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--39-nongnu-elpa--richard-stallman-autogen.sbv b/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--39-nongnu-elpa--richard-stallman-autogen.sbv deleted file mode 100644 index be32dcc3..00000000 --- a/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--39-nongnu-elpa--richard-stallman-autogen.sbv +++ /dev/null @@ -1,471 +0,0 @@ -0:00:00.320,0:00:08.080 -hello I'm richard stallman - -0:00:03.280,0:00:09.200 -founder of the gnu project in 1976 I - -0:00:08.080,0:00:12.000 -developed the first - -0:00:09.200,0:00:13.440 -Emacs editor with some help from guy - -0:00:12.000,0:00:15.839 -steele - -0:00:13.440,0:00:19.119 -then shortly after starting to develop - -0:00:15.839,0:00:22.240 -the gnu operating system in 1984 - -0:00:19.119,0:00:24.640 -I wanted an Emacs editor for it - -0:00:22.240,0:00:25.560 -so I started writing gnu Emacs in - -0:00:24.640,0:00:28.560 -september - -0:00:25.560,0:00:28.560 -1984. - -0:00:29.519,0:00:35.920 -several years ago we decided to move - -0:00:32.640,0:00:36.559 -many of the Emacs list packages outside - -0:00:35.920,0:00:39.760 -the core - -0:00:36.559,0:00:42.960 -Emacs distribution into a separate - -0:00:39.760,0:00:43.280 -package archive that we call the e-max - -0:00:42.960,0:00:46.480 -list - -0:00:43.280,0:00:48.719 -package arc elpa - -0:00:46.480,0:00:51.520 -there were two main reasons for this one - -0:00:48.719,0:00:54.320 -is to make the emax distribution smaller - -0:00:51.520,0:00:55.680 -so every user wouldn't have to get all - -0:00:54.320,0:00:58.320 -the packages - -0:00:55.680,0:01:00.480 -and install all the packages and the - -0:00:58.320,0:01:01.520 -other reason was to make it possible to - -0:01:00.480,0:01:04.559 -release - -0:01:01.520,0:01:08.320 -individual packages separately - -0:01:04.559,0:01:08.320 -from Emacs releases - -0:01:08.880,0:01:17.040 -now at that point somehow we decided to - -0:01:13.119,0:01:19.520 -support loading packages from - -0:01:17.040,0:01:21.119 -a variety of different Emacs list - -0:01:19.520,0:01:25.520 -package archives - -0:01:21.119,0:01:29.280 -and ours would be called the gnu elpa - -0:01:25.520,0:01:32.079 -but elpa could be any other - -0:01:29.280,0:01:32.799 -now I think that naming was a mistake we - -0:01:32.079,0:01:35.119 -should have - -0:01:32.799,0:01:37.759 -meant we should have decided that elpa - -0:01:35.119,0:01:39.759 -referred to our package archive - -0:01:37.759,0:01:42.479 -and any other package archive should be - -0:01:39.759,0:01:46.079 -called some other name - -0:01:42.479,0:01:48.320 -oh well uh this - -0:01:46.079,0:01:50.240 -is a mistake I believe because it leads - -0:01:48.320,0:01:51.119 -to a lot of confusion it would have been - -0:01:50.240,0:01:55.759 -clearer - -0:01:51.119,0:01:59.600 -if we had uh used the other naming - -0:01:55.759,0:02:00.399 -because the difference between having a - -0:01:59.600,0:02:04.159 -package in - -0:02:00.399,0:02:07.840 -core Emacs and having it in gnu elpa - -0:02:04.159,0:02:09.679 -is purely a practical convenience matter - -0:02:07.840,0:02:12.000 -convenience of distribution and - -0:02:09.679,0:02:14.879 -convenience of maintenance - -0:02:12.000,0:02:16.800 -we wanted to be able to move packages - -0:02:14.879,0:02:20.160 -between the two - -0:02:16.800,0:02:21.200 -whenever that was convenient so to make - -0:02:20.160,0:02:23.200 -that possible - -0:02:21.200,0:02:26.319 -we insisted on getting copyright - -0:02:23.200,0:02:28.800 -assignments for packages in gnu elpa - -0:02:26.319,0:02:31.360 -just the same way we do for packages in - -0:02:28.800,0:02:33.760 -core Emacs - -0:02:31.360,0:02:36.239 -having the facility for installing - -0:02:33.760,0:02:39.440 -packages from package archives - -0:02:36.239,0:02:42.239 -led to a tremendous boost in the - -0:02:39.440,0:02:44.879 -development and release of emax packages - -0:02:42.239,0:02:46.560 -unfortunately there was a problem with - -0:02:44.879,0:02:49.120 -the way that was done - -0:02:46.560,0:02:50.000 -for the most part the developers of - -0:02:49.120,0:02:52.480 -these packages - -0:02:50.000,0:02:53.599 -wouldn't even tell us about them they - -0:02:52.480,0:02:56.720 -posted them - -0:02:53.599,0:02:58.480 -in another package archive where we - -0:02:56.720,0:03:02.000 -didn't know about them - -0:02:58.480,0:03:03.120 -and where they no attempt was made to - -0:03:02.000,0:03:06.560 -try to fit them - -0:03:03.120,0:03:10.879 -into Emacs so that they could make sense - -0:03:06.560,0:03:14.480 -as parts of the Emacs distribution - -0:03:10.879,0:03:16.959 -this led to both moral problems - -0:03:14.480,0:03:19.599 -packages that depended on non-free - -0:03:16.959,0:03:22.159 -software in order to be usable - -0:03:19.599,0:03:24.319 -and technical problems because the - -0:03:22.159,0:03:26.159 -developers of those packages didn't - -0:03:24.319,0:03:29.519 -coordinate with us - -0:03:26.159,0:03:33.040 -about how to make it useful and - -0:03:29.519,0:03:36.000 -convenient and clean to have them - -0:03:33.040,0:03:36.000 -in Emacs - -0:03:36.560,0:03:44.840 -so the idea of non-gdu elpa - -0:03:41.120,0:03:48.319 -is an effort to smooth these things - -0:03:44.840,0:03:51.680 -out the fundamental plan of - -0:03:48.319,0:03:54.480 -non-gnu eopa is that - -0:03:51.680,0:03:56.159 -we won't ask for copyright assignments - -0:03:54.480,0:03:58.560 -for those packages - -0:03:56.159,0:04:00.000 -so we won't be able to put them into - -0:03:58.560,0:04:04.080 -core Emacs - -0:04:00.000,0:04:06.959 -at least not easily but we will - -0:04:04.080,0:04:09.200 -have some control over how we distribute - -0:04:06.959,0:04:09.200 -them - -0:04:09.519,0:04:15.439 -we can put any package into - -0:04:12.640,0:04:16.320 -non-gnu elpa as long as it's free - -0:04:15.439,0:04:19.440 -software - -0:04:16.320,0:04:23.360 -if we like it we can - -0:04:19.440,0:04:25.919 -set up that way for users to get it - -0:04:23.360,0:04:26.720 -we could put the package in exactly as - -0:04:25.919,0:04:29.919 -it is - -0:04:26.720,0:04:32.160 -if there's no problem at all with it - -0:04:29.919,0:04:34.160 -we can make an arrangement with the - -0:04:32.160,0:04:38.000 -packages developers - -0:04:34.160,0:04:40.880 -to work on it with us and maintain it - -0:04:38.000,0:04:42.560 -directly for distribution by non-gdu - -0:04:40.880,0:04:45.280 -elpa - -0:04:42.560,0:04:46.080 -but if they are not interested we can - -0:04:45.280,0:04:49.680 -put it in - -0:04:46.080,0:04:52.000 -ourselves and if we need to make any - -0:04:49.680,0:04:55.120 -changes we can do so - -0:04:52.000,0:04:59.040 -so non-gnu elpa - -0:04:55.120,0:05:01.360 -is not meant to be just a way - -0:04:59.040,0:05:02.720 -that others can distribute their - -0:05:01.360,0:05:05.039 -packages - -0:05:02.720,0:05:06.000 -it's meant at least in a minimal - -0:05:05.039,0:05:10.479 -technical - -0:05:06.000,0:05:12.800 -sense to work with gnu Emacs and we'll - -0:05:10.479,0:05:14.240 -make changes if necessary so that it - -0:05:12.800,0:05:18.080 -works smoothly with - -0:05:14.240,0:05:18.080 -Emacs and - -0:05:18.720,0:05:23.280 -this means that we're going to maintain - -0:05:22.160,0:05:27.600 -it differently - -0:05:23.280,0:05:29.759 -from gnu elpa well gnu elpa - -0:05:27.600,0:05:31.520 -is hosted in a way that is actually - -0:05:29.759,0:05:35.600 -rather inconvenient - -0:05:31.520,0:05:38.639 -it is one single git repository - -0:05:35.600,0:05:39.039 -and so anybody that has access to write - -0:05:38.639,0:05:42.560 -it - -0:05:39.039,0:05:44.639 -can write any part of it there are many - -0:05:42.560,0:05:46.080 -different packages in there maintained - -0:05:44.639,0:05:48.080 -by different people - -0:05:46.080,0:05:50.960 -and we have no way to give each one of - -0:05:48.080,0:05:54.720 -them access to per own package - -0:05:50.960,0:05:58.400 -and not to the others well with non-gnu - -0:05:54.720,0:05:59.440 -elpa we plan to fix that the idea is to - -0:05:58.400,0:06:02.479 -have - -0:05:59.440,0:06:05.600 -a single git repository where you can - -0:06:02.479,0:06:08.800 -download various packages from - -0:06:05.600,0:06:10.800 -but they won't be maintained there each - -0:06:08.800,0:06:14.080 -of those packages will be - -0:06:10.800,0:06:15.280 -copied automatically from some other - -0:06:14.080,0:06:18.800 -place - -0:06:15.280,0:06:21.759 -probably some other repository where - -0:06:18.800,0:06:22.960 -the right people have access to work on - -0:06:21.759,0:06:26.479 -it - -0:06:22.960,0:06:28.160 -and this way we can avoid giving a - -0:06:26.479,0:06:32.000 -gigantic number of people - -0:06:28.160,0:06:32.000 -access to every part of it - -0:06:32.240,0:06:40.479 -so far non-gnu elpa is just a plan - -0:06:37.039,0:06:43.280 -we need people to implement the plan - -0:06:40.479,0:06:45.120 -so if you would like to help please - -0:06:43.280,0:06:47.759 -write to me - -0:06:45.120,0:06:49.520 -I think this is a very important step - -0:06:47.759,0:06:52.639 -for progress - -0:06:49.520,0:06:57.919 -and it's got to be implemented - -0:06:52.639,0:06:57.919 -thanks and happy hacking - |