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+work will shortly be working at + +0:00:24.480,0:00:29.359 +shared.tech which is a comp + +0:00:26.240,0:00:30.530 +a non-profit organization developing an + +0:00:29.359,0:00:32.399 +applications to + +0:00:30.530,0:00:35.680 +[Music] + +0:00:32.399,0:00:38.960 +recover surplus food but the the + +0:00:35.680,0:00:40.079 +reason of the talk today and the reason + +0:00:38.960,0:00:42.719 +i'm here today + +0:00:40.079,0:00:44.000 +is to talk about my experience in moving + +0:00:42.719,0:00:47.200 +from jekyll uh + +0:00:44.000,0:00:49.200 +static website generator to org mode and + +0:00:47.200,0:00:52.079 +the reason + +0:00:49.200,0:00:53.039 +i move to work mode is to have better + +0:00:52.079,0:00:56.800 +support for + +0:00:53.039,0:00:58.399 +literary programming on the websites + +0:00:56.800,0:01:00.480 +at the university of trento where we + +0:00:58.399,0:01:04.720 +make available the content for the + +0:01:00.480,0:01:08.000 +the students okay so + +0:01:04.720,0:01:10.080 +first of all what is a static website + +0:01:08.000,0:01:11.360 +generator it is basically a tool which + +0:01:10.080,0:01:15.360 +allows you to + +0:01:11.360,0:01:17.439 +generate html files out of text files + +0:01:15.360,0:01:19.280 +containing basically two types of + +0:01:17.439,0:01:23.119 +information metadata + +0:01:19.280,0:01:26.159 +and content metadata is let's say a + +0:01:23.119,0:01:28.560 +set of key pairs describing the the + +0:01:26.159,0:01:30.000 +content of the file such as the title + +0:01:28.560,0:01:31.759 +author + +0:01:30.000,0:01:34.560 +tags and so on and so forth and the + +0:01:31.759,0:01:37.040 +content is what you actually want to to + +0:01:34.560,0:01:38.880 +get published on the on the internet in + +0:01:37.040,0:01:41.439 +the html file + +0:01:38.880,0:01:44.240 +and usually the content is written in + +0:01:41.439,0:01:44.240 +some kind of + +0:01:44.560,0:01:49.759 +markup language such as markdown or + +0:01:47.520,0:01:53.200 +possibly + +0:01:49.759,0:01:55.759 +org mode and well jackie is a very + +0:01:53.200,0:01:58.719 +popular website uh + +0:01:55.759,0:01:59.840 +a static website generator it is written + +0:01:58.719,0:02:03.280 +in a ruby + +0:01:59.840,0:02:06.840 +and what it does it it it systematically + +0:02:03.280,0:02:09.440 +let's say transforms all the input files + +0:02:06.840,0:02:11.599 +by making the content into + +0:02:09.440,0:02:14.000 +html and systematically applying a + +0:02:11.599,0:02:17.120 +template in order to generate the + +0:02:14.000,0:02:19.840 +html files which you can then deploy + +0:02:17.120,0:02:22.160 +on your server of choice to make them + +0:02:19.840,0:02:26.160 +available on the on the internet + +0:02:22.160,0:02:28.480 +and one of the features uh most + +0:02:26.160,0:02:30.239 +well i would say all static website + +0:02:28.480,0:02:32.560 +generators have + +0:02:30.239,0:02:34.879 +is a debt of being able to let's say + +0:02:32.560,0:02:38.400 +collect the metadata information + +0:02:34.879,0:02:39.440 +uh of the files being part of your of + +0:02:38.400,0:02:45.280 +your project + +0:02:39.440,0:02:47.840 +and the reason they do that is because + +0:02:45.280,0:02:49.280 +you sometimes want to generate pages + +0:02:47.840,0:02:53.200 +based on the content + +0:02:49.280,0:02:56.239 +of your um of your projects + +0:02:53.200,0:02:59.040 +such as for instance the the list of + +0:02:56.239,0:03:00.400 +posts you have recently published or + +0:02:59.040,0:03:03.840 +maybe the list of tags + +0:03:00.400,0:03:07.280 +uh you uh have defined for your post and + +0:03:03.840,0:03:09.760 +so on and so forth so so + +0:03:07.280,0:03:12.400 +dracula gives the possibility of + +0:03:09.760,0:03:15.760 +generating this kind of dynamic + +0:03:12.400,0:03:18.800 +content by using liquid which is a + +0:03:15.760,0:03:21.840 +templating language which + +0:03:18.800,0:03:24.879 +looks like these + +0:03:21.840,0:03:26.879 +so basically you you have all the + +0:03:24.879,0:03:29.120 +constructs you can + +0:03:26.879,0:03:29.920 +expect in a programming language this + +0:03:29.120,0:03:33.360 +for instance + +0:03:29.920,0:03:37.440 +is a fourth cycle which + +0:03:33.360,0:03:39.599 +iterates over all the post or the + +0:03:37.440,0:03:41.040 +files in a specific directory of the + +0:03:39.599,0:03:45.040 +jacket project + +0:03:41.040,0:03:48.400 +and for each post it takes the the title + +0:03:45.040,0:03:51.840 +and the url and generates a link + +0:03:48.400,0:03:55.200 +okay so dracule is + +0:03:51.840,0:03:57.760 +nice and sweet but over the years + +0:03:55.200,0:03:59.519 +i started using more and more + +0:03:57.760,0:04:02.959 +systematically + +0:03:59.519,0:04:05.439 +or mode to write all my files and i + +0:04:02.959,0:04:07.439 +moved from markdown to word mode i am a + +0:04:05.439,0:04:09.680 +long time emacs user so i've been using + +0:04:07.439,0:04:12.799 +imax for 30 years now so + +0:04:09.680,0:04:15.280 +or mode is a more recent discovery + +0:04:12.799,0:04:16.239 +but it is a very nice uh let's say + +0:04:15.280,0:04:19.680 +discovery i + +0:04:16.239,0:04:22.320 +i made and the reason i like org mode + +0:04:19.680,0:04:23.600 +is because for instance you can write + +0:04:22.320,0:04:26.639 +formulas using + +0:04:23.600,0:04:30.320 +mac jacks and you can generate diagrams + +0:04:26.639,0:04:32.240 +or plots with new plots and + +0:04:30.320,0:04:34.080 +also important is the fact that you have + +0:04:32.240,0:04:35.919 +the possibility of let's say publishing + +0:04:34.080,0:04:39.520 +your documents + +0:04:35.919,0:04:40.400 +to multiple ends backhands such as pdf + +0:04:39.520,0:04:43.600 +or + +0:04:40.400,0:04:47.199 +maybe a review presentations or + +0:04:43.600,0:04:50.479 +or html and this is all made possible + +0:04:47.199,0:04:52.560 +by bubble which is + +0:04:50.479,0:04:54.639 +exactly what we just saw in the the + +0:04:52.560,0:04:57.440 +previous talk + +0:04:54.639,0:04:59.520 +namely the possibility of executing a + +0:04:57.440,0:05:02.560 +snippet of code + +0:04:59.520,0:05:06.400 +embedded in in your pages + +0:05:02.560,0:05:09.600 +um and our model can also be used + +0:05:06.400,0:05:10.720 +within let's say jackie and in fact + +0:05:09.600,0:05:15.199 +there is a + +0:05:10.720,0:05:18.880 +a nice gem a nice library called jackie + +0:05:15.199,0:05:19.680 +org which allows you to use org modifies + +0:05:18.880,0:05:22.880 +directly + +0:05:19.680,0:05:26.560 +into jekyll but when you start using + +0:05:22.880,0:05:30.560 +org mode when i started using + +0:05:26.560,0:05:34.240 +mode i realized i could move + +0:05:30.560,0:05:36.840 +all my workflow to or my publishing + +0:05:34.240,0:05:39.520 +workflow to image + +0:05:36.840,0:05:41.600 +and and and in fact + +0:05:39.520,0:05:42.880 +org mode is also static website + +0:05:41.600,0:05:46.240 +generator because + +0:05:42.880,0:05:50.880 +it has got the possibility of publishing + +0:05:46.240,0:05:53.840 +um projects made of org mode files + +0:05:50.880,0:05:55.759 +and one of the nice things about let's + +0:05:53.840,0:05:56.479 +say that the publishing features of work + +0:05:55.759,0:05:58.880 +mode + +0:05:56.479,0:05:59.840 +is that it allows you to define in the + +0:05:58.880,0:06:03.199 +org publish + +0:05:59.840,0:06:06.479 +project a list of the components + +0:06:03.199,0:06:07.520 +which are part of your project and in a + +0:06:06.479,0:06:10.479 +sense it is + +0:06:07.520,0:06:12.400 +also more flexible than jackie lee's + +0:06:10.479,0:06:12.880 +because it also allows you for instance + +0:06:12.400,0:06:15.120 +to + +0:06:12.880,0:06:17.440 +let's say publish a single file rather + +0:06:15.120,0:06:20.080 +than having to recompile everything + +0:06:17.440,0:06:23.919 +every time you want to publish your + +0:06:20.080,0:06:25.840 +your project to your website however + +0:06:23.919,0:06:27.120 +there are some short comments i would + +0:06:25.840,0:06:29.520 +say or some some + +0:06:27.120,0:06:30.400 +areas of improvement improvement let me + +0:06:29.520,0:06:32.720 +say + +0:06:30.400,0:06:33.600 +the first is that let's say support for + +0:06:32.720,0:06:36.639 +templating + +0:06:33.600,0:06:39.280 +is not so obvious as it is let's say + +0:06:36.639,0:06:40.560 +in jackie or even though there are some + +0:06:39.280,0:06:44.560 +let's say + +0:06:40.560,0:06:46.160 +nice extensions such as argo t html + +0:06:44.560,0:06:48.400 +for instance which allows you to use + +0:06:46.160,0:06:51.840 +templates and + +0:06:48.400,0:06:54.080 +more important to me was the fact that + +0:06:51.840,0:06:55.520 +apparently there is little support for + +0:06:54.080,0:06:58.240 +the creation of dynamic + +0:06:55.520,0:06:59.360 +content so i was very curious and very + +0:06:58.240,0:07:02.800 +keen to use + +0:06:59.360,0:07:05.440 +or mode for let's say publishing my blog + +0:07:02.800,0:07:08.720 +and my the the courses at the university + +0:07:05.440,0:07:11.440 +but then uh i had to find a way + +0:07:08.720,0:07:13.599 +to let's say being able to publish these + +0:07:11.440,0:07:16.000 +dynamic pages finding some kind of + +0:07:13.599,0:07:16.720 +replacement so to speak for uh the + +0:07:16.000,0:07:19.759 +liquid + +0:07:16.720,0:07:20.160 +the liquid engine and and the solution + +0:07:19.759,0:07:24.160 +was + +0:07:20.160,0:07:27.280 +that at hand actually because + +0:07:24.160,0:07:30.800 +basically i realized i could use bubble + +0:07:27.280,0:07:32.720 +for exactly this purpose so rather than + +0:07:30.800,0:07:35.759 +using bubble for generating + +0:07:32.720,0:07:37.919 +plots or let's say my other computation + +0:07:35.759,0:07:41.039 +or whatever i was using them for + +0:07:37.919,0:07:42.080 +i realized they could use bubble to + +0:07:41.039,0:07:45.120 +generate + +0:07:42.080,0:07:48.960 +html which could be let's say + +0:07:45.120,0:07:52.720 +uh then published uh uh + +0:07:48.960,0:07:53.680 +in the project so uh so all i needed to + +0:07:52.720,0:07:56.240 +do then + +0:07:53.680,0:07:58.319 +was defining some kind of functions some + +0:07:56.240,0:08:01.840 +kind of code in order to read + +0:07:58.319,0:08:02.400 +all the org mode uh the metadata of all + +0:08:01.840,0:08:05.759 +the + +0:08:02.400,0:08:09.680 +opmod files of my web project so that + +0:08:05.759,0:08:13.280 +i could let's say then publish uh + +0:08:09.680,0:08:17.440 +generate the dynamic content and + +0:08:13.280,0:08:17.440 +this is a snippet taken from + +0:08:18.080,0:08:24.800 +one of my html projects + +0:08:21.759,0:08:27.599 +which basically shows the way in which + +0:08:24.800,0:08:29.360 +i generate the um the list of posts on + +0:08:27.599,0:08:32.560 +my on my page it is uh + +0:08:29.360,0:08:34.320 +exactly how the the liquid that we saw + +0:08:32.560,0:08:35.680 +in a couple of a couple of slides + +0:08:34.320,0:08:39.200 +earlier that looks like + +0:08:35.680,0:08:42.320 +uh in inner mode + +0:08:39.200,0:08:46.720 +and basically what i'm doing i'm using i + +0:08:42.320,0:08:49.680 +wrote a ruby script which + +0:08:46.720,0:08:51.040 +reads all the metadata so this uh + +0:08:49.680,0:08:53.440 +highlighted code + +0:08:51.040,0:08:54.240 +basically loads the script which is + +0:08:53.440,0:08:56.800 +stored + +0:08:54.240,0:08:58.320 +externally and then it collects all the + +0:08:56.800,0:09:00.880 +metadata from the + +0:08:58.320,0:09:02.240 +org mode files in the current uh in the + +0:09:00.880,0:09:04.800 +current directory + +0:09:02.240,0:09:06.480 +and then the the following the the code + +0:09:04.800,0:09:09.839 +you can see here + +0:09:06.480,0:09:12.959 +basically iterate over all the + +0:09:09.839,0:09:16.399 +past red the at the previous step + +0:09:12.959,0:09:19.519 +and it generates um + +0:09:16.399,0:09:22.959 +a list with the title and uh + +0:09:19.519,0:09:27.440 +and the urls and so basically + +0:09:22.959,0:09:30.240 +replicating what jackie does so + +0:09:27.440,0:09:32.399 +okay so there are some some other things + +0:09:30.240,0:09:33.200 +i have to to deal with in order to let's + +0:09:32.399,0:09:36.480 +say + +0:09:33.200,0:09:39.200 +accommodate my workflow and but that was + +0:09:36.480,0:09:40.240 +relatively easy in the sense that one of + +0:09:39.200,0:09:43.279 +the + +0:09:40.240,0:09:45.360 +uh problem one of the issue i had to + +0:09:43.279,0:09:48.480 +solve was that of let's say having + +0:09:45.360,0:09:51.040 +a common navigation on all my + +0:09:48.480,0:09:51.920 +pages uh but that was easily solved + +0:09:51.040,0:09:54.959 +using + +0:09:51.920,0:09:56.000 +uh the include feature so i basically + +0:09:54.959,0:09:57.839 +made available + +0:09:56.000,0:10:00.560 +and include with all the navigation + +0:09:57.839,0:10:01.839 +which is uh embedded in all the pages of + +0:10:00.560,0:10:04.959 +my websites + +0:10:01.839,0:10:06.160 +uh through the could include and another + +0:10:04.959,0:10:08.560 +nice feature which + +0:10:06.160,0:10:09.760 +jackie las is the possibility of + +0:10:08.560,0:10:12.800 +previewing + +0:10:09.760,0:10:13.200 +a website before deploying it and but + +0:10:12.800,0:10:16.079 +then + +0:10:13.200,0:10:17.839 +emacs also has got a node which allows + +0:10:16.079,0:10:21.200 +you to + +0:10:17.839,0:10:24.320 +launch a web server and in fact + +0:10:21.200,0:10:26.959 +i wrote a quick ack + +0:10:24.320,0:10:28.000 +which allows you to which allows to + +0:10:26.959,0:10:31.519 +basically + +0:10:28.000,0:10:34.720 +invoke a node on a on our + +0:10:31.519,0:10:37.920 +mode project and start a local preview + +0:10:34.720,0:10:43.680 +and then use rsync + +0:10:37.920,0:10:43.680 +in order to deploy the the website + +0:10:44.839,0:10:48.720 +um + +0:10:46.240,0:10:51.200 +five minutes left okay okay more than + +0:10:48.720,0:10:53.200 +enough okay + +0:10:51.200,0:10:55.440 +thanks thank you thank you very much i'm + +0:10:53.200,0:10:56.480 +nearly done so then i can take some some + +0:10:55.440,0:11:00.560 +questions + +0:10:56.480,0:11:03.680 +so okay just to give you maybe + +0:11:00.560,0:11:06.480 +a slightly more in-depth uh + +0:11:03.680,0:11:07.200 +view of what the pages look like so + +0:11:06.480,0:11:11.120 +these are + +0:11:07.200,0:11:14.720 +one of the pages or the source files + +0:11:11.120,0:11:18.480 +of one of the websites it is + +0:11:14.720,0:11:20.399 +in literate programming so basically uh + +0:11:18.480,0:11:22.640 +you see there is some metadata here i + +0:11:20.399,0:11:26.640 +mean this is a regular old mod file + +0:11:22.640,0:11:29.920 +and this part here + +0:11:26.640,0:11:31.519 +basically defines some common options + +0:11:29.920,0:11:35.920 +for publication + +0:11:31.519,0:11:41.120 +and these two includes here + +0:11:35.920,0:11:44.480 +put some extra html in the head part and + +0:11:41.120,0:11:48.079 +the navigation and here as you can see + +0:11:44.480,0:11:50.160 +is the code generating the + +0:11:48.079,0:11:52.240 +the list in chronological order it is + +0:11:50.160,0:11:53.839 +slightly more complex than the example i + +0:11:52.240,0:11:56.240 +made in the slide + +0:11:53.839,0:11:57.839 +because uh there is some more + +0:11:56.240,0:11:59.760 +elaboration to + +0:11:57.839,0:12:01.839 +uh to do including putting some + +0:11:59.760,0:12:05.120 +javascript to identify + +0:12:01.839,0:12:08.160 +according to let's say the the tags + +0:12:05.120,0:12:11.200 +so to go back to the to the presentation + +0:12:08.160,0:12:13.600 +um so the okay so + +0:12:11.200,0:12:14.560 +i i managed this migration uh a few + +0:12:13.600,0:12:17.680 +months ago + +0:12:14.560,0:12:20.399 +and then uh all my workflow is within + +0:12:17.680,0:12:23.079 +with old mode and within imax and um + +0:12:20.399,0:12:24.240 +i'm very happy with it because it's + +0:12:23.079,0:12:26.800 +simplified + +0:12:24.240,0:12:28.480 +uh quite a bit let's say my public + +0:12:26.800,0:12:31.839 +publication process + +0:12:28.480,0:12:34.240 +and uh one of the advantages so another + +0:12:31.839,0:12:36.959 +advantage so the first advantage is that + +0:12:34.240,0:12:38.160 +everything is in ork mode and dmax + +0:12:36.959,0:12:41.680 +second advantage + +0:12:38.160,0:12:44.880 +is that everything is based on the + +0:12:41.680,0:12:47.760 +standard machinery provided by orb mode + +0:12:44.880,0:12:50.079 +so in a sense it is kind of let's say + +0:12:47.760,0:12:53.040 +more robust with respect to + +0:12:50.079,0:12:54.320 +dependencies and possible errors and so + +0:12:53.040,0:12:56.639 +on and so forth + +0:12:54.320,0:12:58.240 +and um and the fact that the old mode + +0:12:56.639,0:13:00.880 +allows you to publish + +0:12:58.240,0:13:03.839 +a single file in a project is is also + +0:13:00.880,0:13:07.839 +very interesting because + +0:13:03.839,0:13:11.040 +it allows to let's say be more robust to + +0:13:07.839,0:13:14.079 +problems you might introduce when + +0:13:11.040,0:13:14.959 +you're changing when i'm changing the + +0:13:14.079,0:13:16.880 +setup + +0:13:14.959,0:13:18.320 +and another interesting thing which i + +0:13:16.880,0:13:21.519 +realized that i + +0:13:18.320,0:13:23.600 +uh i could have is that + +0:13:21.519,0:13:24.880 +in a sense the specification of the + +0:13:23.600,0:13:27.360 +website + +0:13:24.880,0:13:28.480 +is uh can be embedded in the website + +0:13:27.360,0:13:30.800 +itself + +0:13:28.480,0:13:31.839 +so in a sense this is some kind of let's + +0:13:30.800,0:13:35.120 +say self + +0:13:31.839,0:13:37.200 +the command it's a real set documenting + +0:13:35.120,0:13:38.560 +uh what i'm actually doing so for + +0:13:37.200,0:13:42.800 +instance + +0:13:38.560,0:13:42.800 +uh here on my + +0:13:43.199,0:13:48.240 +website you can see let's say the + +0:13:46.399,0:13:51.519 +specification of the + +0:13:48.240,0:13:52.320 +of the of the project which is uh loaded + +0:13:51.519,0:13:55.519 +from my + +0:13:52.320,0:13:56.320 +initialization file but then it is also + +0:13:55.519,0:13:59.440 +published + +0:13:56.320,0:14:01.360 +together with my home page and it leaves + +0:13:59.440,0:14:05.360 +with the repository where + +0:14:01.360,0:14:08.079 +i keep all the sources of my website + +0:14:05.360,0:14:09.839 +which is kind of nice because it + +0:14:08.079,0:14:14.079 +basically isolates + +0:14:09.839,0:14:16.880 +everything in a single in a single place + +0:14:14.079,0:14:18.000 +okay so there are some examples i'm + +0:14:16.880,0:14:20.320 +showing them + +0:14:18.000,0:14:21.760 +more because of the let's say source + +0:14:20.320,0:14:25.519 +code which + +0:14:21.760,0:14:26.160 +you can grab from the git repositories + +0:14:25.519,0:14:28.399 +if you are + +0:14:26.160,0:14:30.079 +interested of course i'm also available + +0:14:28.399,0:14:32.959 +to provide some + +0:14:30.079,0:14:34.480 +support and help if you are interested + +0:14:32.959,0:14:37.760 +in this kind of stuff + +0:14:34.480,0:14:38.560 +the the next step for me will be that of + +0:14:37.760,0:14:41.600 +let's say trying + +0:14:38.560,0:14:45.199 +making this kind of machinery available + +0:14:41.600,0:14:47.120 +for more general use at the moment + +0:14:45.199,0:14:48.800 +if you are interested in trying out my + +0:14:47.120,0:14:49.839 +suggestion is let's say grabbing the + +0:14:48.800,0:14:52.959 +sources + +0:14:49.839,0:14:56.000 +or one of the let's say websites to see + +0:14:52.959,0:14:56.720 +what how they look like and maybe try + +0:14:56.000,0:15:00.160 +and + +0:14:56.720,0:15:02.720 +customize it for your purposes + +0:15:00.160,0:15:03.839 +and this is basically the content of my + +0:15:02.720,0:15:06.959 +talk so + +0:15:03.839,0:15:07.279 +i'm open to two questions and thank you + +0:15:06.959,0:15:10.880 +for + +0:15:07.279,0:15:12.880 +your attention you are now unmuted uh + +0:15:10.880,0:15:14.480 +thank you very much adolfo for your + +0:15:12.880,0:15:17.360 +awesome presentation + +0:15:14.480,0:15:19.360 +um i think we have time for maybe like + +0:15:17.360,0:15:21.279 +one or two questions + +0:15:19.360,0:15:22.880 +um and then the rest maybe you could + +0:15:21.279,0:15:26.639 +take up um + +0:15:22.880,0:15:30.000 +after the stream after sure + +0:15:26.639,0:15:31.839 +uh i we should do um would you like me + +0:15:30.000,0:15:35.199 +to read you the questions + +0:15:31.839,0:15:40.399 +uh yeah probably better because + +0:15:35.199,0:15:42.480 +i kind of lost there okay no problem um + +0:15:40.399,0:15:45.440 +okay so someone asks do you have any + +0:15:42.480,0:15:48.639 +opinion on fern + +0:15:45.440,0:15:51.839 +fan i i don't know fans + +0:15:48.639,0:15:55.040 +so i'll give it a try and uh and uh + +0:15:51.839,0:15:57.839 +and check it out okay + +0:15:55.040,0:15:59.680 +thanks and um people are also asking do + +0:15:57.839,0:16:01.279 +you discuss this for example in a blog + +0:15:59.680,0:16:02.800 +or anywhere else they could find more + +0:16:01.279,0:16:05.600 +about it + +0:16:02.800,0:16:08.560 +oh yes i'm going to publish the let's + +0:16:05.600,0:16:11.120 +say the talk and the content on the + +0:16:08.560,0:16:12.320 +on my website and then i'll link it from + +0:16:11.120,0:16:14.720 +the max conf + +0:16:12.320,0:16:15.680 +conference so that it will be easier for + +0:16:14.720,0:16:19.040 +people to + +0:16:15.680,0:16:22.880 +to reach it so i will shortly make it + +0:16:19.040,0:16:25.440 +available right after the conference + +0:16:22.880,0:16:26.160 +wonderful and i think that's all for the + +0:16:25.440,0:16:28.560 +questions + +0:16:26.160,0:16:29.600 +thank you very much okay thank you very + +0:16:28.560,0:16:34.800 +much thank you + +0:16:29.600,0:16:34.800 +and cheers bye cheers bye + |