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-0:00:24.480,0:00:29.359 -shared.tech which is a comp - -0:00:26.240,0:00:30.530 -a non-profit organization developing an - -0:00:29.359,0:00:32.399 -applications to - -0:00:30.530,0:00:35.680 -[Music] - -0:00:32.399,0:00:38.960 -recover surplus food but the the - -0:00:35.680,0:00:40.079 -reason of the talk today and the reason - -0:00:38.960,0:00:42.719 -I'm here today - -0:00:40.079,0:00:44.000 -is to talk about my experience in moving - -0:00:42.719,0:00:47.200 -from jekyll uh - -0:00:44.000,0:00:49.200 -static website generator to org mode and - -0:00:47.200,0:00:52.079 -the reason - -0:00:49.200,0:00:53.039 -I move to work mode is to have better - -0:00:52.079,0:00:56.800 -support for - -0:00:53.039,0:00:58.399 -literary programming on the websites - -0:00:56.800,0:01:00.480 -at the university of trento where we - -0:00:58.399,0:01:04.720 -make available the content for the - -0:01:00.480,0:01:08.000 -the students okay so - -0:01:04.720,0:01:10.080 -first of all what is a static website - -0:01:08.000,0:01:11.360 -generator it is basically a tool which - -0:01:10.080,0:01:15.360 -allows you to - -0:01:11.360,0:01:17.439 -generate html files out of text files - -0:01:15.360,0:01:19.280 -containing basically two types of - -0:01:17.439,0:01:23.119 -information metadata - -0:01:19.280,0:01:26.159 -and content metadata is let's say a - -0:01:23.119,0:01:28.560 -set of key pairs describing the the - -0:01:26.159,0:01:30.000 -content of the file such as the title - -0:01:28.560,0:01:31.759 -author - -0:01:30.000,0:01:34.560 -tags and so on and so forth and the - -0:01:31.759,0:01:37.040 -content is what you actually want to to - -0:01:34.560,0:01:38.880 -get published on the on the internet in - -0:01:37.040,0:01:41.439 -the html file - -0:01:38.880,0:01:44.240 -and usually the content is written in - -0:01:41.439,0:01:44.240 -some kind of - -0:01:44.560,0:01:49.759 -markup language such as markdown or - -0:01:47.520,0:01:53.200 -possibly - -0:01:49.759,0:01:55.759 -org mode and well jackie is a very - -0:01:53.200,0:01:58.719 -popular website uh - -0:01:55.759,0:01:59.840 -a static website generator it is written - -0:01:58.719,0:02:03.280 -in a ruby - -0:01:59.840,0:02:06.840 -and what it does it it it systematically - -0:02:03.280,0:02:09.440 -let's say transforms all the input files - -0:02:06.840,0:02:11.599 -by making the content into - -0:02:09.440,0:02:14.000 -html and systematically applying a - -0:02:11.599,0:02:17.120 -template in order to generate the - -0:02:14.000,0:02:19.840 -html files which you can then deploy - -0:02:17.120,0:02:22.160 -on your server of choice to make them - -0:02:19.840,0:02:26.160 -available on the on the internet - -0:02:22.160,0:02:28.480 -and one of the features uh most - -0:02:26.160,0:02:30.239 -well I would say all static website - -0:02:28.480,0:02:32.560 -generators have - -0:02:30.239,0:02:34.879 -is a debt of being able to let's say - -0:02:32.560,0:02:38.400 -collect the metadata information - -0:02:34.879,0:02:39.440 -uh of the files being part of your of - -0:02:38.400,0:02:45.280 -your project - -0:02:39.440,0:02:47.840 -and the reason they do that is because - -0:02:45.280,0:02:49.280 -you sometimes want to generate pages - -0:02:47.840,0:02:53.200 -based on the content - -0:02:49.280,0:02:56.239 -of your um of your projects - -0:02:53.200,0:02:59.040 -such as for instance the the list of - -0:02:56.239,0:03:00.400 -posts you have recently published or - -0:02:59.040,0:03:03.840 -maybe the list of tags - -0:03:00.400,0:03:07.280 -uh you uh have defined for your post and - -0:03:03.840,0:03:09.760 -so on and so forth so so - -0:03:07.280,0:03:12.400 -dracula gives the possibility of - -0:03:09.760,0:03:15.760 -generating this kind of dynamic - -0:03:12.400,0:03:18.800 -content by using liquid which is a - -0:03:15.760,0:03:21.840 -templating language which - -0:03:18.800,0:03:24.879 -looks like these - -0:03:21.840,0:03:26.879 -so basically you you have all the - -0:03:24.879,0:03:29.120 -constructs you can - -0:03:26.879,0:03:29.920 -expect in a programming language this - -0:03:29.120,0:03:33.360 -for instance - -0:03:29.920,0:03:37.440 -is a fourth cycle which - -0:03:33.360,0:03:39.599 -iterates over all the post or the - -0:03:37.440,0:03:41.040 -files in a specific directory of the - -0:03:39.599,0:03:45.040 -jacket project - -0:03:41.040,0:03:48.400 -and for each post it takes the the title - -0:03:45.040,0:03:51.840 -and the url and generates a link - -0:03:48.400,0:03:55.200 -okay so dracule is - -0:03:51.840,0:03:57.760 -nice and sweet but over the years - -0:03:55.200,0:03:59.519 -I started using more and more - -0:03:57.760,0:04:02.959 -systematically - -0:03:59.519,0:04:05.439 -or mode to write all my files and I - -0:04:02.959,0:04:07.439 -moved from markdown to word mode I am a - -0:04:05.439,0:04:09.680 -long time Emacs user so I've been using - -0:04:07.439,0:04:12.799 -imax for 30 years now so - -0:04:09.680,0:04:15.280 -or mode is a more recent discovery - -0:04:12.799,0:04:16.239 -but it is a very nice uh let's say - -0:04:15.280,0:04:19.680 -discovery I - -0:04:16.239,0:04:22.320 -I made and the reason I like org mode - -0:04:19.680,0:04:23.600 -is because for instance you can write - -0:04:22.320,0:04:26.639 -formulas using - -0:04:23.600,0:04:30.320 -mac jacks and you can generate diagrams - -0:04:26.639,0:04:32.240 -or plots with new plots and - -0:04:30.320,0:04:34.080 -also important is the fact that you have - -0:04:32.240,0:04:35.919 -the possibility of let's say publishing - -0:04:34.080,0:04:39.520 -your documents - -0:04:35.919,0:04:40.400 -to multiple ends backhands such as pdf - -0:04:39.520,0:04:43.600 -or - -0:04:40.400,0:04:47.199 -maybe a review presentations or - -0:04:43.600,0:04:50.479 -or html and this is all made possible - -0:04:47.199,0:04:52.560 -by bubble which is - -0:04:50.479,0:04:54.639 -exactly what we just saw in the the - -0:04:52.560,0:04:57.440 -previous talk - -0:04:54.639,0:04:59.520 -namely the possibility of executing a - -0:04:57.440,0:05:02.560 -snippet of code - -0:04:59.520,0:05:06.400 -embedded in in your pages - -0:05:02.560,0:05:09.600 -um and our model can also be used - -0:05:06.400,0:05:10.720 -within let's say jackie and in fact - -0:05:09.600,0:05:15.199 -there is a - -0:05:10.720,0:05:18.880 -a nice gem a nice library called jackie - -0:05:15.199,0:05:19.680 -org which allows you to use org modifies - -0:05:18.880,0:05:22.880 -directly - -0:05:19.680,0:05:26.560 -into jekyll but when you start using - -0:05:22.880,0:05:30.560 -org mode when I started using - -0:05:26.560,0:05:34.240 -mode I realized I could move - -0:05:30.560,0:05:36.840 -all my workflow to or my publishing - -0:05:34.240,0:05:39.520 -workflow to image - -0:05:36.840,0:05:41.600 -and and and in fact - -0:05:39.520,0:05:42.880 -org mode is also static website - -0:05:41.600,0:05:46.240 -generator because - -0:05:42.880,0:05:50.880 -it has got the possibility of publishing - -0:05:46.240,0:05:53.840 -um projects made of org mode files - -0:05:50.880,0:05:55.759 -and one of the nice things about let's - -0:05:53.840,0:05:56.479 -say that the publishing features of work - -0:05:55.759,0:05:58.880 -mode - -0:05:56.479,0:05:59.840 -is that it allows you to define in the - -0:05:58.880,0:06:03.199 -org publish - -0:05:59.840,0:06:06.479 -project a list of the components - -0:06:03.199,0:06:07.520 -which are part of your project and in a - -0:06:06.479,0:06:10.479 -sense it is - -0:06:07.520,0:06:12.400 -also more flexible than jackie lee's - -0:06:10.479,0:06:12.880 -because it also allows you for instance - -0:06:12.400,0:06:15.120 -to - -0:06:12.880,0:06:17.440 -let's say publish a single file rather - -0:06:15.120,0:06:20.080 -than having to recompile everything - -0:06:17.440,0:06:23.919 -every time you want to publish your - -0:06:20.080,0:06:25.840 -your project to your website however - -0:06:23.919,0:06:27.120 -there are some short comments I would - -0:06:25.840,0:06:29.520 -say or some some - -0:06:27.120,0:06:30.400 -areas of improvement improvement let me - -0:06:29.520,0:06:32.720 -say - -0:06:30.400,0:06:33.600 -the first is that let's say support for - -0:06:32.720,0:06:36.639 -templating - -0:06:33.600,0:06:39.280 -is not so obvious as it is let's say - -0:06:36.639,0:06:40.560 -in jackie or even though there are some - -0:06:39.280,0:06:44.560 -let's say - -0:06:40.560,0:06:46.160 -nice extensions such as argo t html - -0:06:44.560,0:06:48.400 -for instance which allows you to use - -0:06:46.160,0:06:51.840 -templates and - -0:06:48.400,0:06:54.080 -more important to me was the fact that - -0:06:51.840,0:06:55.520 -apparently there is little support for - -0:06:54.080,0:06:58.240 -the creation of dynamic - -0:06:55.520,0:06:59.360 -content so I was very curious and very - -0:06:58.240,0:07:02.800 -keen to use - -0:06:59.360,0:07:05.440 -or mode for let's say publishing my blog - -0:07:02.800,0:07:08.720 -and my the the courses at the university - -0:07:05.440,0:07:11.440 -but then uh I had to find a way - -0:07:08.720,0:07:13.599 -to let's say being able to publish these - -0:07:11.440,0:07:16.000 -dynamic pages finding some kind of - -0:07:13.599,0:07:16.720 -replacement so to speak for uh the - -0:07:16.000,0:07:19.759 -liquid - -0:07:16.720,0:07:20.160 -the liquid engine and and the solution - -0:07:19.759,0:07:24.160 -was - -0:07:20.160,0:07:27.280 -that at hand actually because - -0:07:24.160,0:07:30.800 -basically I realized I could use bubble - -0:07:27.280,0:07:32.720 -for exactly this purpose so rather than - -0:07:30.800,0:07:35.759 -using bubble for generating - -0:07:32.720,0:07:37.919 -plots or let's say my other computation - -0:07:35.759,0:07:41.039 -or whatever I was using them for - -0:07:37.919,0:07:42.080 -I realized they could use bubble to - -0:07:41.039,0:07:45.120 -generate - -0:07:42.080,0:07:48.960 -html which could be let's say - -0:07:45.120,0:07:52.720 -uh then published uh uh - -0:07:48.960,0:07:53.680 -in the project so uh so all I needed to - -0:07:52.720,0:07:56.240 -do then - -0:07:53.680,0:07:58.319 -was defining some kind of functions some - -0:07:56.240,0:08:01.840 -kind of code in order to read - -0:07:58.319,0:08:02.400 -all the org mode uh the metadata of all - -0:08:01.840,0:08:05.759 -the - -0:08:02.400,0:08:09.680 -opmod files of my web project so that - -0:08:05.759,0:08:13.280 -I could let's say then publish uh - -0:08:09.680,0:08:17.440 -generate the dynamic content and - -0:08:13.280,0:08:17.440 -this is a snippet taken from - -0:08:18.080,0:08:24.800 -one of my html projects - -0:08:21.759,0:08:27.599 -which basically shows the way in which - -0:08:24.800,0:08:29.360 -I generate the um the list of posts on - -0:08:27.599,0:08:32.560 -my on my page it is uh - -0:08:29.360,0:08:34.320 -exactly how the the liquid that we saw - -0:08:32.560,0:08:35.680 -in a couple of a couple of slides - -0:08:34.320,0:08:39.200 -earlier that looks like - -0:08:35.680,0:08:42.320 -uh in inner mode - -0:08:39.200,0:08:46.720 -and basically what I'm doing I'm using I - -0:08:42.320,0:08:49.680 -wrote a ruby script which - -0:08:46.720,0:08:51.040 -reads all the metadata so this uh - -0:08:49.680,0:08:53.440 -highlighted code - -0:08:51.040,0:08:54.240 -basically loads the script which is - -0:08:53.440,0:08:56.800 -stored - -0:08:54.240,0:08:58.320 -externally and then it collects all the - -0:08:56.800,0:09:00.880 -metadata from the - -0:08:58.320,0:09:02.240 -org mode files in the current uh in the - -0:09:00.880,0:09:04.800 -current directory - -0:09:02.240,0:09:06.480 -and then the the following the the code - -0:09:04.800,0:09:09.839 -you can see here - -0:09:06.480,0:09:12.959 -basically iterate over all the - -0:09:09.839,0:09:16.399 -past red the at the previous step - -0:09:12.959,0:09:19.519 -and it generates um - -0:09:16.399,0:09:22.959 -a list with the title and uh - -0:09:19.519,0:09:27.440 -and the urls and so basically - -0:09:22.959,0:09:30.240 -replicating what jackie does so - -0:09:27.440,0:09:32.399 -okay so there are some some other things - -0:09:30.240,0:09:33.200 -I have to to deal with in order to let's - -0:09:32.399,0:09:36.480 -say - -0:09:33.200,0:09:39.200 -accommodate my workflow and but that was - -0:09:36.480,0:09:40.240 -relatively easy in the sense that one of - -0:09:39.200,0:09:43.279 -the - -0:09:40.240,0:09:45.360 -uh problem one of the issue I had to - -0:09:43.279,0:09:48.480 -solve was that of let's say having - -0:09:45.360,0:09:51.040 -a common navigation on all my - -0:09:48.480,0:09:51.920 -pages uh but that was easily solved - -0:09:51.040,0:09:54.959 -using - -0:09:51.920,0:09:56.000 -uh the include feature so I basically - -0:09:54.959,0:09:57.839 -made available - -0:09:56.000,0:10:00.560 -and include with all the navigation - -0:09:57.839,0:10:01.839 -which is uh embedded in all the pages of - -0:10:00.560,0:10:04.959 -my websites - -0:10:01.839,0:10:06.160 -uh through the could include and another - -0:10:04.959,0:10:08.560 -nice feature which - -0:10:06.160,0:10:09.760 -jackie las is the possibility of - -0:10:08.560,0:10:12.800 -previewing - -0:10:09.760,0:10:13.200 -a website before deploying it and but - -0:10:12.800,0:10:16.079 -then - -0:10:13.200,0:10:17.839 -Emacs also has got a node which allows - -0:10:16.079,0:10:21.200 -you to - -0:10:17.839,0:10:24.320 -launch a web server and in fact - -0:10:21.200,0:10:26.959 -I wrote a quick ack - -0:10:24.320,0:10:28.000 -which allows you to which allows to - -0:10:26.959,0:10:31.519 -basically - -0:10:28.000,0:10:34.720 -invoke a node on a on our - -0:10:31.519,0:10:37.920 -mode project and start a local preview - -0:10:34.720,0:10:43.680 -and then use rsync - -0:10:37.920,0:10:43.680 -in order to deploy the the website - -0:10:44.839,0:10:48.720 -um - -0:10:46.240,0:10:51.200 -five minutes left okay okay more than - -0:10:48.720,0:10:53.200 -enough okay - -0:10:51.200,0:10:55.440 -thanks thank you thank you very much I'm - -0:10:53.200,0:10:56.480 -nearly done so then I can take some some - -0:10:55.440,0:11:00.560 -questions - -0:10:56.480,0:11:03.680 -so okay just to give you maybe - -0:11:00.560,0:11:06.480 -a slightly more in-depth uh - -0:11:03.680,0:11:07.200 -view of what the pages look like so - -0:11:06.480,0:11:11.120 -these are - -0:11:07.200,0:11:14.720 -one of the pages or the source files - -0:11:11.120,0:11:18.480 -of one of the websites it is - -0:11:14.720,0:11:20.399 -in literate programming so basically uh - -0:11:18.480,0:11:22.640 -you see there is some metadata here I - -0:11:20.399,0:11:26.640 -mean this is a regular old mod file - -0:11:22.640,0:11:29.920 -and this part here - -0:11:26.640,0:11:31.519 -basically defines some common options - -0:11:29.920,0:11:35.920 -for publication - -0:11:31.519,0:11:41.120 -and these two includes here - -0:11:35.920,0:11:44.480 -put some extra html in the head part and - -0:11:41.120,0:11:48.079 -the navigation and here as you can see - -0:11:44.480,0:11:50.160 -is the code generating the - -0:11:48.079,0:11:52.240 -the list in chronological order it is - -0:11:50.160,0:11:53.839 -slightly more complex than the example I - -0:11:52.240,0:11:56.240 -made in the slide - -0:11:53.839,0:11:57.839 -because uh there is some more - -0:11:56.240,0:11:59.760 -elaboration to - -0:11:57.839,0:12:01.839 -uh to do including putting some - -0:11:59.760,0:12:05.120 -javascript to identify - -0:12:01.839,0:12:08.160 -according to let's say the the tags - -0:12:05.120,0:12:11.200 -so to go back to the to the presentation - -0:12:08.160,0:12:13.600 -um so the okay so - -0:12:11.200,0:12:14.560 -I I managed this migration uh a few - -0:12:13.600,0:12:17.680 -months ago - -0:12:14.560,0:12:20.399 -and then uh all my workflow is within - -0:12:17.680,0:12:23.079 -with old mode and within imax and um - -0:12:20.399,0:12:24.240 -I'm very happy with it because it's - -0:12:23.079,0:12:26.800 -simplified - -0:12:24.240,0:12:28.480 -uh quite a bit let's say my public - -0:12:26.800,0:12:31.839 -publication process - -0:12:28.480,0:12:34.240 -and uh one of the advantages so another - -0:12:31.839,0:12:36.959 -advantage so the first advantage is that - -0:12:34.240,0:12:38.160 -everything is in ork mode and dmax - -0:12:36.959,0:12:41.680 -second advantage - -0:12:38.160,0:12:44.880 -is that everything is based on the - -0:12:41.680,0:12:47.760 -standard machinery provided by orb mode - -0:12:44.880,0:12:50.079 -so in a sense it is kind of let's say - -0:12:47.760,0:12:53.040 -more robust with respect to - -0:12:50.079,0:12:54.320 -dependencies and possible errors and so - -0:12:53.040,0:12:56.639 -on and so forth - -0:12:54.320,0:12:58.240 -and um and the fact that the old mode - -0:12:56.639,0:13:00.880 -allows you to publish - -0:12:58.240,0:13:03.839 -a single file in a project is is also - -0:13:00.880,0:13:07.839 -very interesting because - -0:13:03.839,0:13:11.040 -it allows to let's say be more robust to - -0:13:07.839,0:13:14.079 -problems you might introduce when - -0:13:11.040,0:13:14.959 -you're changing when I'm changing the - -0:13:14.079,0:13:16.880 -setup - -0:13:14.959,0:13:18.320 -and another interesting thing which I - -0:13:16.880,0:13:21.519 -realized that I - -0:13:18.320,0:13:23.600 -uh I could have is that - -0:13:21.519,0:13:24.880 -in a sense the specification of the - -0:13:23.600,0:13:27.360 -website - -0:13:24.880,0:13:28.480 -is uh can be embedded in the website - -0:13:27.360,0:13:30.800 -itself - -0:13:28.480,0:13:31.839 -so in a sense this is some kind of let's - -0:13:30.800,0:13:35.120 -say self - -0:13:31.839,0:13:37.200 -the command it's a real set documenting - -0:13:35.120,0:13:38.560 -uh what I'm actually doing so for - -0:13:37.200,0:13:42.800 -instance - -0:13:38.560,0:13:42.800 -uh here on my - -0:13:43.199,0:13:48.240 -website you can see let's say the - -0:13:46.399,0:13:51.519 -specification of the - -0:13:48.240,0:13:52.320 -of the of the project which is uh loaded - -0:13:51.519,0:13:55.519 -from my - -0:13:52.320,0:13:56.320 -initialization file but then it is also - -0:13:55.519,0:13:59.440 -published - -0:13:56.320,0:14:01.360 -together with my home page and it leaves - -0:13:59.440,0:14:05.360 -with the repository where - -0:14:01.360,0:14:08.079 -I keep all the sources of my website - -0:14:05.360,0:14:09.839 -which is kind of nice because it - -0:14:08.079,0:14:14.079 -basically isolates - -0:14:09.839,0:14:16.880 -everything in a single in a single place - -0:14:14.079,0:14:18.000 -okay so there are some examples I'm - -0:14:16.880,0:14:20.320 -showing them - -0:14:18.000,0:14:21.760 -more because of the let's say source - -0:14:20.320,0:14:25.519 -code which - -0:14:21.760,0:14:26.160 -you can grab from the git repositories - -0:14:25.519,0:14:28.399 -if you are - -0:14:26.160,0:14:30.079 -interested of course I'm also available - -0:14:28.399,0:14:32.959 -to provide some - -0:14:30.079,0:14:34.480 -support and help if you are interested - -0:14:32.959,0:14:37.760 -in this kind of stuff - -0:14:34.480,0:14:38.560 -the the next step for me will be that of - -0:14:37.760,0:14:41.600 -let's say trying - -0:14:38.560,0:14:45.199 -making this kind of machinery available - -0:14:41.600,0:14:47.120 -for more general use at the moment - -0:14:45.199,0:14:48.800 -if you are interested in trying out my - -0:14:47.120,0:14:49.839 -suggestion is let's say grabbing the - -0:14:48.800,0:14:52.959 -sources - -0:14:49.839,0:14:56.000 -or one of the let's say websites to see - -0:14:52.959,0:14:56.720 -what how they look like and maybe try - -0:14:56.000,0:15:00.160 -and - -0:14:56.720,0:15:02.720 -customize it for your purposes - -0:15:00.160,0:15:03.839 -and this is basically the content of my - -0:15:02.720,0:15:06.959 -talk so - -0:15:03.839,0:15:07.279 -I'm open to two questions and thank you - -0:15:06.959,0:15:10.880 -for - -0:15:07.279,0:15:12.880 -your attention you are now unmuted uh - -0:15:10.880,0:15:14.480 -thank you very much adolfo for your - -0:15:12.880,0:15:17.360 -awesome presentation - -0:15:14.480,0:15:19.360 -um I think we have time for maybe like - -0:15:17.360,0:15:21.279 -one or two questions - -0:15:19.360,0:15:22.880 -um and then the rest maybe you could - -0:15:21.279,0:15:26.639 -take up um - -0:15:22.880,0:15:30.000 -after the stream after sure - -0:15:26.639,0:15:31.839 -uh I we should do um would you like me - -0:15:30.000,0:15:35.199 -to read you the questions - -0:15:31.839,0:15:40.399 -uh yeah probably better because - -0:15:35.199,0:15:42.480 -I kind of lost there okay no problem um - -0:15:40.399,0:15:45.440 -okay so someone asks do you have any - -0:15:42.480,0:15:48.639 -opinion on fern - -0:15:45.440,0:15:51.839 -fan I I don't know fans - -0:15:48.639,0:15:55.040 -so I'll give it a try and uh and uh - -0:15:51.839,0:15:57.839 -and check it out okay - -0:15:55.040,0:15:59.680 -thanks and um people are also asking do - -0:15:57.839,0:16:01.279 -you discuss this for example in a blog - -0:15:59.680,0:16:02.800 -or anywhere else they could find more - -0:16:01.279,0:16:05.600 -about it - -0:16:02.800,0:16:08.560 -oh yes I'm going to publish the let's - -0:16:05.600,0:16:11.120 -say the talk and the content on the - -0:16:08.560,0:16:12.320 -on my website and then I'll link it from - -0:16:11.120,0:16:14.720 -the max conf - -0:16:12.320,0:16:15.680 -conference so that it will be easier for - -0:16:14.720,0:16:19.040 -people to - -0:16:15.680,0:16:22.880 -to reach it so I will shortly make it - -0:16:19.040,0:16:25.440 -available right after the conference - -0:16:22.880,0:16:26.160 -wonderful and I think that's all for the - -0:16:25.440,0:16:28.560 -questions - -0:16:26.160,0:16:29.600 -thank you very much okay thank you very - -0:16:28.560,0:16:34.800 -much thank you - -0:16:29.600,0:16:34.800 -and cheers bye cheers bye - |