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+um so hi i'm joe corneli
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+uh this is work i did with ray puzio and
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+cameron smith
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+um and they're the main protagonists in
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+this story they
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+are uh researchers who've been working
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+on theoretical biology um so in a
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+typical project they may use manxima
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+and julia their work for biology physics
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+and computer science
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+computer science and the latest work in
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+progress is on branching processes for
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+cancer modeling so
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+how can um emacs possibly help
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+let's let's have a look uh moving code
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+and data between these different
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+programs by hand is
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+annoying on separate workflows for
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+writing up notes and preparing
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+publications
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+is perhaps even more annoying all of
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+it's time consuming and error-prone
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+um so what about maybe using jupiter
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+uh we found something called script of
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+scripts and it solves some of those
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+problems because you can use
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+maximum and julia together but we were
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+quite happy to explore emacs based
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+solutions being emax enthusiasts and we
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+even
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+got cameron to be enthusiastic about
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+doing emacs so that
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+went nice so just here's a little
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+feature grid
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+of emacs org versus just sort of your
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+generic
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+um tools that are in a different more
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+general ecosystem so as you can see it's
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+quite
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+feature complete you've got your maximo
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+mode julia mode you can use both of them
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+inside of org mode
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+you can present things with word tree
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+slide you can set up a
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+wiki inside of orgrome this is one i
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+found
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+rather recently you can even use
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+compatibly with orgrome something called
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+log seek
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+which is in the browser um so that's
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+nice
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+um you can do real-time collaborative
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+editing um
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+either in a kind of pairing style or in
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+a more etherpad style
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+obviously you can manage your references
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+you can typeset whatever you want um you
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+can publish work in progress on a blog
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+and the fern is another one of these
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+external
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+org mode tools it's not actually any mac
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+but works with
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+org mode stuff and you know so we're
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+good to go
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+uh with all of that so what does that
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+look like well here's
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+a little example from before they were
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+doing um
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+before we started really thinking
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+seriously about this stuff so this is
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+just maxima
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+well maximo doesn't have a long running
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+process by default if you've ever used
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+python
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+uh you have something called sessions uh
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+they don't have that for maxim at least
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+not by default
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+um so how what was the workaround
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+there's this thing called uh
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+solve for you here and um
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+that shows up down below again in these
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+angle brackets which you've seen maybe
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+in someone else's talk
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+uh which means go to the previous uh
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+thing that was named soul for you
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+and do that all over again so they do
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+that over again
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+and here's the little maxima code for
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+defining you saw so you've now defined
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+you saw
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+and then you can use it in the next
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+expression you get out a nice juicy
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+zero at the end but it's a little bit a
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+little bit
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+like cartridge in a pear tree to have to
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+redefine everything every time
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+so this is clearly at the level of work
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+around um maybe just
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+one more time going looking through that
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+um
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+that stuff um
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+sorry so uh looking through that stuff
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+this is we're going to need something
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+like that probably for stitching
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+maxima and julie julia together so it's
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+good to
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+look a little bit about how that might
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+use it again later so at the time when i
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+you can see i've got two slightly
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+different time stamps down below one's
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+the cached result and the other was the
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+um and that's
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+that's going to be useful but you know
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+that's not really the main problem the
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+main problem is
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+making maxima long running so kind of
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+the
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+core of this talk is a new observant
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+facility which is a general purpose
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+way to do that kind of thing which
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+involves a very simple
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+change to obcor uh so we'll give a quick
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+overview of that and show
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+an example um so here's the example
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+um a very simple sort of silly example
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+uh what does it mean to have a long
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+running process here i've set this
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+to be false um which just means that
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+things are going to come
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+come across in 1d and then i ask it to
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+expand
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+uh something and i get latex by default
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+so so that's what it means is i've sent
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+something in and it's going to come
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+across in one view which is great
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+um maybe you'll also notice that there's
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+no semicolon if you're a maxima fan
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+um and things are coming across as tech
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+so those were some little bonus features
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+and i'll show you how that works later
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+so
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+um the change to obcor is as follows uh
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+um we uh actually this should say uh
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+instead of stream here it should say um
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+servant
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+sorry uh we tried an experimental
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+version what's called stream so now it's
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+called servant but all it does is it
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+arbitrary laying
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+if you have um a servant
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+change that hasn't been
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+pushed out or sent as a patch to anybody
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+but it's a pretty minor change
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+um here's an overview without the code
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+of just a high level overview of
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+it can do pre-processing and
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+post-processing
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+um it does all these things it stores
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+the output
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+i mentioned here that in principle we
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+could store lots of output and have a
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+history although we don't do that
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+presently um but that's what observant
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+here's the maxima kind of um
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+on-ramp uh to get maxima brought in so
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+you have to obviously have a maximum
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+um put hash uh this is the preprocessing
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+thing i mentioned adding in some tech um
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+and adding in
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+uh or deleting rather a substring and
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+here here is why you delete the
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+once you once you run check on things
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+you've got to delete that back out to
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+get something kind of coherent out of it
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+but so this is how to set up maximal um
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+that's enough really of the demo is not
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+really a demos for
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+show and tell but uh this is an
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+experience report i wanted to talk about
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+the experience of doing this
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+so some some negatives like we tried to
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+get emacs jupiter working
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+prior to prior to working on the um
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+observant and we couldn't get it doing
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+everything we wanted despite a bit of
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+heavy lifting and debugging and stuff so
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+that's not not finished that was a bit
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+difficult
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+um on the other hand working on
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+observing was fun and pretty lightweight
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+um we got some experience co-editing
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+things with these real-time tools
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+obviously the stack is somewhat work in
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+progress um
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+so i just wanted to give a shout out to
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+crdt which was really fun
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+and champion was making bug fiction
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+bug fixes for that as we go similarly
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+for fern and log seek the maintainers
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+um and so that was nice we did try to
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+get emacs running in the browser
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+thinking it would be really nice for
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+people who
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+um didn't want to install it to get a
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+chance to just try it
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+uh but actually browsers capture things
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+like uh control n
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+and so that's that was a bit annoying
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+but we did get lots of great feedback
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+and interaction with people including
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+around this conference so thank you
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+to those who we've had discussions with
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+um
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+so future work okay so maybe you
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+remember i didn't
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+give a talk a few years back on arcana
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+so what what
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+might this have to do with org mode and
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+that's always the question one asks
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+about arcata
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+well so arcana one of the things it does
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+is transclusions and so that could be
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+actually very helpful
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+in connection with this combined notes
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+and write-up workflow so you might have
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+a
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+forward mode uh and some of these
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+results we got back as raw results
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+could go right into your write up in a
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+kind of
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+convenient way at a level above um
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+transparently a level above the notebook
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+so you'd have the notebook alongside the
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+write-up in that case
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+which is a sort of variation on the
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+literate programming
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+workflow this is speculative who knows
+
+0:08:19.120,0:08:22.080
+the other thought is
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+it just relates to the idea of network
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+programming so we can imagine these
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+0:08:23.520,0:08:26.639
+networks of
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+0:08:24.800,0:08:28.800
+computational nodes maybe sitting inside
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+0:08:26.639,0:08:31.199
+of orgrome calling each other
+
+0:08:28.800,0:08:32.560
+um and you would want to maintain some
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+0:08:31.199,0:08:34.959
+kind of model of that
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+0:08:32.560,0:08:36.640
+process and a sort of general question
+
+0:08:34.959,0:08:38.320
+is how do we have a remote control for
+
+0:08:36.640,0:08:40.240
+long-running processes you could do that
+
+0:08:38.320,0:08:42.479
+in lisp or closure but
+
+0:08:40.240,0:08:44.080
+maybe we could have something a little
+
+0:08:42.479,0:08:45.839
+bit like that here
+
+0:08:44.080,0:08:48.080
+um so conclusions what have we actually
+
+0:08:45.839,0:08:50.080
+addressed well uh we addressed uh
+
+0:08:48.080,0:08:51.600
+accessing any long-running process with
+
+0:08:50.080,0:08:52.959
+a simple or mode interface
+
+0:08:51.600,0:08:54.880
+obviously we're not the only people to
+
+0:08:52.959,0:08:56.880
+think about notebooks but we think that
+
+0:08:54.880,0:08:58.880
+emacs has some advantages
+
+0:08:56.880,0:09:01.120
+related to reproducible research and
+
+0:08:58.880,0:09:01.680
+interdisciplinary collaboration so let's
+
+0:09:01.120,0:09:03.120
+just
+
+0:09:01.680,0:09:04.880
+say that we think something is
+
+0:09:03.120,0:09:07.200
+reproducible if it's actually teachable
+
+0:09:04.880,0:09:09.279
+to someone new and they can do it
+
+0:09:07.200,0:09:11.680
+org mode seems very useful for that many
+
+0:09:09.279,0:09:14.399
+of the other talks have touched on this
+
+0:09:11.680,0:09:16.000
+interdisciplinary collaboration is great
+
+0:09:14.399,0:09:17.839
+this was an interdisciplinary
+
+0:09:16.000,0:09:19.680
+collaboration on some level but
+
+0:09:17.839,0:09:21.600
+what about you know future work for
+
+0:09:19.680,0:09:22.320
+bringing in scenario planners simulation
+
+0:09:21.600,0:09:24.480
+scientists
+
+0:09:22.320,0:09:25.519
+and local farmers and building something
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+0:09:24.480,0:09:27.200
+that they can all
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+0:09:25.519,0:09:29.200
+use that's more than the sum of the
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+0:09:27.200,0:09:30.720
+parts so a little
+
+0:09:29.200,0:09:32.160
+future work for everybody else here so
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+0:09:30.720,0:09:33.120
+we think science should be widely
+
+0:09:32.160,0:09:34.560
+teachable
+
+0:09:33.120,0:09:36.720
+shareable semi-automated
+
+0:09:34.560,0:09:40.399
+transdisciplinary and real time
+
+0:09:36.720,0:09:43.279
+like emacs conf so you can get in touch
+
+0:09:40.399,0:09:44.560
+uh via these methods and the code which
+
+0:09:43.279,0:09:45.200
+is very much early stage work in
+
+0:09:44.560,0:09:46.640
+progress
+
+0:09:45.200,0:09:48.800
+as this was meant to be an experience
+
+0:09:46.640,0:09:49.920
+report not a it's all done here it is
+
+0:09:48.800,0:09:51.680
+polished report
+
+0:09:49.920,0:09:53.360
+um it's also online if you'd like to
+
+0:09:51.680,0:09:54.560
+have a look so that's the end of the
+
+0:09:53.360,0:09:55.279
+talk and i don't know if there's time
+
+0:09:54.560,0:09:57.440
+for questions
+
+0:09:55.279,0:10:00.240
+or not but um i'm at your disposal now
+
+0:09:57.440,0:10:04.079
+thank you you are now unmuted
+
+0:10:00.240,0:10:07.120
+um many thanks for the tough job
+
+0:10:04.079,0:10:08.880
+uh let's see we have about i think four
+
+0:10:07.120,0:10:10.880
+minutes four questions
+
+0:10:08.880,0:10:12.320
+um and we have a couple of questions on
+
+0:10:10.880,0:10:14.240
+the pad would you like to read them
+
+0:10:12.320,0:10:16.560
+yourself or should i read them to you
+
+0:10:14.240,0:10:18.079
+uh just for sake of easy management why
+
+0:10:16.560,0:10:21.279
+don't you read them out if that's okay
+
+0:10:18.079,0:10:22.240
+yeah sure uh so they ask have you looked
+
+0:10:21.279,0:10:25.440
+into trying
+
+0:10:22.240,0:10:33.760
+sage math i've long uh long wanted
+
+0:10:25.440,0:10:36.959
+nothing org files
+
+0:10:33.760,0:10:39.279
+right and i and i wrote the answer that
+
+0:10:36.959,0:10:42.079
+we should be possible because one can
+
+0:10:39.279,0:10:42.079
+call it from a command
+
+0:10:44.839,0:10:48.640
+okay
+
+0:10:46.399,0:10:50.079
+and i see there's another sagemath
+
+0:10:48.640,0:10:52.100
+question that you seem to have answered
+
+0:10:50.079,0:10:54.880
+as well so i guess i won't repeat that
+
+0:10:52.100,0:10:56.959
+[Music]
+
+0:10:54.880,0:11:00.640
+there's let's not forget about embedded
+
+0:10:56.959,0:11:03.680
+calc in emacs
+
+0:11:00.640,0:11:05.040
+so so the first demos actually were with
+
+0:11:03.680,0:11:06.640
+calc so that's that's
+
+0:11:05.040,0:11:07.839
+useful uh although i think it was a
+
+0:11:06.640,0:11:08.240
+different kind of a different command
+
+0:11:07.839,0:11:11.839
+line
+
+0:11:08.240,0:11:13.839
+well that was the next calc yeah
+
+0:11:11.839,0:11:15.680
+so sure there is there is calc so that
+
+0:11:13.839,0:11:19.120
+would be calculus and
+
+0:11:15.680,0:11:21.839
+calc is already in org mode yeah
+
+0:11:19.120,0:11:21.839
+yeah yeah
+
+0:11:25.680,0:11:29.839
+um still looking for questions
+
+0:11:39.760,0:11:44.320
+okay i think that's about it i don't see
+
+0:11:41.760,0:11:47.440
+any questions on the ether pad
+
+0:11:44.320,0:11:50.480
+and let's see
+
+0:11:47.440,0:11:50.480
+anything on irc
+
+0:11:53.040,0:11:56.720
+um nothing but phrases and everyone
+
+0:11:55.760,0:11:59.120
+thanking you
+
+0:11:56.720,0:12:00.240
+thank you all right you're welcome
+
+0:11:59.120,0:12:02.880
+thanks a lot uh
+
+0:12:00.240,0:12:06.800
+we'll see you guys around then cheers
+
+0:12:02.880,0:12:06.800
+and see you around
+