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00:00:17.359 +hello + +00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:18.880 +spell it so I'll just start the timer to + +00:00:18.880 --> 00:00:20.720 +make sure that I don't go overboard + +00:00:20.720 --> 00:00:22.720 +all right so you are now muted okay good + +00:00:22.720 --> 00:00:24.160 +to go now so + +00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:26.960 +hello again everyone so I hope you had + +00:00:26.960 --> 00:00:28.240 +well quite a lot of talks + +00:00:28.240 --> 00:00:30.880 +ever since the last one I did and all + +00:00:30.880 --> 00:00:32.000 +more interesting + +00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:35.040 +uh one after the other so um + +00:00:35.040 --> 00:00:36.559 +you know I'm a bit in a bit of a weird + +00:00:36.559 --> 00:00:38.239 +spot right now because I'm supposed to + +00:00:38.239 --> 00:00:39.760 +be presenting to you as you can see on + +00:00:39.760 --> 00:00:40.239 +my screen + +00:00:40.239 --> 00:00:42.879 +one big-ass awk file multiple tiny ones + +00:00:42.879 --> 00:00:44.960 +finally the end of the debate + +00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:48.160 +and it sounds about as clickbaity + +00:00:48.160 --> 00:00:49.760 +as you can possibly get with those + +00:00:49.760 --> 00:00:51.280 +topics and by the way + +00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:54.000 +uh credit where credit is due the title + +00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:55.760 +is not mine it's actually from bastian + +00:00:55.760 --> 00:00:57.039 +gary the current old + +00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:00.719 +maintainer and yeah I wanted to + +00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:03.199 +talk to you a little bit today about + +00:01:03.199 --> 00:01:04.879 +this question because + +00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.600 +if you are used to going on our slash + +00:01:07.600 --> 00:01:09.040 +emacs you know the subreddit that we + +00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:09.600 +have + +00:01:09.600 --> 00:01:11.840 +if you go on I can use often you know + +00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:13.200 +it's a question that + +00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:16.000 +you see pop-up every once in a while + +00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:17.520 +should I be using + +00:01:17.520 --> 00:01:20.640 +one big file or should I be using + +00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:24.159 +a lot of tiny files and I believe you + +00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:24.799 +know + +00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:27.600 +we've got defenders on both sides if I + +00:01:27.600 --> 00:01:29.520 +just show you one examples + +00:01:29.520 --> 00:01:32.479 +so we have carl voigt okay so he's one + +00:01:32.479 --> 00:01:35.280 +of the organizers for the conference + +00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:37.920 +he hears the guy who probably has the + +00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:40.000 +biggest augment files + +00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.000 +right now in all the people I know and + +00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:43.759 +god knows I know plenty of people use + +00:01:43.759 --> 00:01:44.479 +old mode + +00:01:44.479 --> 00:01:46.880 +but if you just look at this line I hope + +00:01:46.880 --> 00:01:48.320 +it's not too small you just + +00:01:48.320 --> 00:01:51.360 +make it a little larger but + +00:01:51.360 --> 00:01:56.719 +carl basically has a file with 126 + +00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:01.759 +000 lines and I'm just going to pause + +00:02:01.759 --> 00:02:04.560 +and try to have you imagine how large a + +00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:06.399 +file it actually is + +00:02:06.399 --> 00:02:08.399 +just think about all of these lines + +00:02:08.399 --> 00:02:10.000 +being tasked in your days + +00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.080 +think about all those lines being about + +00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:13.200 +little thoughts + +00:02:13.200 --> 00:02:14.400 +you know that you've had throughout the + +00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:17.200 +day or project that you were working on + +00:02:17.200 --> 00:02:19.680 +and it's massive and you know one of the + +00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:20.720 +problem that + +00:02:20.720 --> 00:02:23.920 +uh calvoit actually approaches on + +00:02:23.920 --> 00:02:27.680 +this topic is that it takes him roughly + +00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:30.160 +20 seconds to get his old agenda going + +00:02:30.160 --> 00:02:32.400 +which is a massive amount of time + +00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:35.680 +I mean we have very fast computers now + +00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:37.720 +you know ever since e-max was created in + +00:02:37.720 --> 00:02:39.200 +1976 + +00:02:39.200 --> 00:02:42.319 +computers I have no idea how much faster + +00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:43.440 +they've gotten + +00:02:43.440 --> 00:02:47.760 +and yet you know for earth 1000 lines + +00:02:47.760 --> 00:02:49.599 +emac seems to be choking and it's + +00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:51.120 +certainly not reasonable in a way to + +00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:52.720 +have to wait 20 seconds + +00:02:52.720 --> 00:02:55.360 +just for your entire file to be passed + +00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:57.040 +so basically what I want to do + +00:02:57.040 --> 00:02:58.480 +and by the way I forgot to do the + +00:02:58.480 --> 00:03:00.879 +presentation but I'm leova I did this + +00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:02.879 +before for those who were around + +00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:05.519 +and I um help maintain a software which + +00:03:05.519 --> 00:03:06.640 +is called orgrom + +00:03:06.640 --> 00:03:08.560 +and that's the expertise that I have on + +00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:09.840 +the topic + +00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:11.760 +actually if you go online I do have a + +00:03:11.760 --> 00:03:13.599 +github page I will make sure that you + +00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:15.440 +have all the links available afterwards + +00:03:15.440 --> 00:03:18.640 +but I do publish my init files + +00:03:18.640 --> 00:03:20.720 +and you can see if you scroll at the + +00:03:20.720 --> 00:03:22.319 +bottom I have a little demonstration + +00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:23.200 +which shows you + +00:03:23.200 --> 00:03:25.519 +the fancy things that I can do with my + +00:03:25.519 --> 00:03:27.440 +old mood setup and that might be even + +00:03:27.440 --> 00:03:28.159 +interesting + +00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:30.720 +in lights of the talk you've just had + +00:03:30.720 --> 00:03:32.319 +about gtd stuff because + +00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:34.080 +the first one is about how I end all my + +00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:36.159 +projects the second one is about + +00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.680 +the flow from a task uh as I work on it + +00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:40.000 +so + +00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:41.519 +I won't spend too much time on this but + +00:03:41.519 --> 00:03:43.120 +basically that's my expertise + +00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.440 +I have spent eight years working with + +00:03:45.440 --> 00:03:46.959 +working with org mode + +00:03:46.959 --> 00:03:48.959 +three of them actually thinking about + +00:03:48.959 --> 00:03:50.720 +writing packages + +00:03:50.720 --> 00:03:54.080 +and the thing is if I go into a little + +00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:55.680 +bit of details and obviously it's only a + +00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:57.760 +lighting talk so I won't have time to + +00:03:57.760 --> 00:04:00.720 +actually go really in depth about it but + +00:04:00.720 --> 00:04:01.840 +there is something + +00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:03.599 +in the ultimate libraries which is + +00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:05.200 +called org elements + +00:04:05.200 --> 00:04:07.000 +and you have the name right there org + +00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:08.319 +element.el + +00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:11.439 +dot el being for e-lisp file and as you + +00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:12.319 +can see + +00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:14.799 +the page it's on the work wiki so it's + +00:04:14.799 --> 00:04:16.239 +accessible by everyone + +00:04:16.239 --> 00:04:19.280 +but it's basically the api that + +00:04:19.280 --> 00:04:23.759 +org mode uses to pass all mode files + +00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:26.400 +so for those who don't know passing + +00:04:26.400 --> 00:04:27.199 +means basically + +00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:29.360 +checking a file checking all the content + +00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:30.880 +of the file and extracting all the + +00:04:30.880 --> 00:04:32.880 +information that we need from that file + +00:04:32.880 --> 00:04:34.960 +and as you can imagine you all have + +00:04:34.960 --> 00:04:36.560 +augmented files in your mind + +00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:38.240 +well you know they can be fairly complex + +00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:39.840 +you know you can have properties + +00:04:39.840 --> 00:04:41.759 +you can have contextual information like + +00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:43.040 +if you write a line + +00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:45.199 +which starts at column zero which means + +00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:46.560 +at the left + +00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:48.000 +you know it doesn't have the same + +00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:49.680 +meaning whether or not it is + +00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:52.639 +before the beginning of a headline or if + +00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:54.160 +it is after the beginning of a red line + +00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:55.199 +you know it's going to be + +00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:57.759 +relatively different hierarchically + +00:04:57.759 --> 00:04:58.960 +speaking + +00:04:58.960 --> 00:05:01.759 +and so the problem when it comes to the + +00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:02.639 +question of + +00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:05.759 +many files versus one big file or + +00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:08.560 +few big files is that we always have to + +00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:09.600 +keep in mind + +00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:12.880 +what org elements want you to do + +00:05:12.880 --> 00:05:15.680 +and the thing is there are plenty of + +00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.440 +problems when it comes to passing file + +00:05:17.440 --> 00:05:18.400 +the first one + +00:05:18.400 --> 00:05:21.360 +being obviously that emacs is a single + +00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:22.160 +thread + +00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:24.880 +process or has some threading + +00:05:24.880 --> 00:05:26.400 +capabilities we're not going to go into + +00:05:26.400 --> 00:05:28.639 +the details right now that's not my goal + +00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:32.400 +but it makes it incredibly hard to + +00:05:32.400 --> 00:05:35.919 +parallelize uh passing processes as + +00:05:35.919 --> 00:05:39.280 +we currently with the current technology + +00:05:39.280 --> 00:05:42.320 +and so you'd have to imagine that if you + +00:05:42.320 --> 00:05:44.080 +have a very large files if you go back + +00:05:44.080 --> 00:05:46.479 +to the example of carl voice from before + +00:05:46.479 --> 00:05:49.199 +100 000 lines that means that you have + +00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:50.000 +to scan + +00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.320 +through every single line basically + +00:05:52.320 --> 00:05:53.759 +because sometimes let's just say that + +00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:56.080 +you have a property drawer for instance + +00:05:56.080 --> 00:05:59.440 +which tells you oh okay uh this tree + +00:05:59.440 --> 00:06:03.520 +has the tag foo so the problem is there + +00:06:03.520 --> 00:06:05.120 +are multiple ways for you + +00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.720 +to define a tag okay so you can use the + +00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:11.840 +usual way which is about wrapping in + +00:06:11.840 --> 00:06:14.000 +columns the tag at the end of a heading + +00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:16.160 +so for instance if I I'm not going to + +00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:17.360 +switch to emac that's going to waste too + +00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:18.240 +much time + +00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:21.039 +but that's one way to say your time but + +00:06:21.039 --> 00:06:21.520 +say + +00:06:21.520 --> 00:06:23.520 +you have tag inheritance which means + +00:06:23.520 --> 00:06:25.360 +that when you have a parent with a tag + +00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:28.160 +you also want the child to inherit the + +00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:29.520 +tag so if you have + +00:06:29.520 --> 00:06:32.400 +first heading with the typhoo you have + +00:06:32.400 --> 00:06:33.680 +the first subheading + +00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:37.520 +and the tag foo is implied now imagine + +00:06:37.520 --> 00:06:39.680 +having to do that with a file that is + +00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:41.039 +completely nested + +00:06:41.039 --> 00:06:44.160 +a file that has maybe 9 10 + +00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:47.280 +11 levels of depth to it + +00:06:47.280 --> 00:06:49.039 +it's mind-bogglingly complicated for the + +00:06:49.039 --> 00:06:51.039 +software to do that knowing that I've + +00:06:51.039 --> 00:06:52.639 +told you about tags + +00:06:52.639 --> 00:06:55.919 +but any property can be inheritable + +00:06:55.919 --> 00:06:58.639 +anything like priorities even though why + +00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:00.240 +would you do this + +00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:03.759 +you can have groups you can all this and + +00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:05.599 +as someone who went through the trouble + +00:07:05.599 --> 00:07:07.199 +of optimizing his old agenda so + +00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:08.560 +basically if we go back to the + +00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:11.280 +gifts gifs oh god we've already had this + +00:07:11.280 --> 00:07:12.160 +discussion + +00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:14.479 +between the git and magit and now I've + +00:07:14.479 --> 00:07:16.400 +started jeff and gif and I only have one + +00:07:16.400 --> 00:07:18.080 +more minute left to do so so let's just + +00:07:18.080 --> 00:07:19.599 +say I'm going to say gif + +00:07:19.599 --> 00:07:23.599 +just to spice people so if you go on + +00:07:23.599 --> 00:07:26.880 +the way I organize my agenda what I did + +00:07:26.880 --> 00:07:29.120 +in order to keep my agenda build time + +00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:30.960 +under two seconds + +00:07:30.960 --> 00:07:33.440 +is that I've rewritten a whole lot of + +00:07:33.440 --> 00:07:35.520 +codes to be able to pass my organ gender + +00:07:35.520 --> 00:07:36.560 +files + +00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:40.080 +so the thing is I'm going to be talking + +00:07:40.080 --> 00:07:41.360 +more about this later + +00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:43.440 +I only have let's say one minutes to + +00:07:43.440 --> 00:07:44.479 +conclude + +00:07:44.479 --> 00:07:47.440 +so as you've gathered I'm not going to + +00:07:47.440 --> 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+00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:21.039 +but I hope to be approaching this topic + +00:08:21.039 --> 00:08:23.280 +with you in about + +00:08:23.280 --> 00:08:25.360 +two hours or so maybe one hour actually + +00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:27.520 +so I'm actually finished I've decided to + +00:08:27.520 --> 00:08:28.960 +leave you two minutes of questions + +00:08:28.960 --> 00:08:31.520 +so uh if someone could feed me the + +00:08:31.520 --> 00:08:32.880 +question that might be best + +00:08:32.880 --> 00:08:34.399 +because I don't want oh actually I can + +00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:36.240 +just open the year + +00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:39.919 +I can just open it give me a second okay + +00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:40.800 +ah + +00:08:40.800 --> 00:08:43.039 +just loading up huh I might stop showing + +00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:43.839 +my screen + +00:08:43.839 --> 00:08:46.959 +that might make it easier so I mean if + +00:08:46.959 --> 00:08:47.519 +you can make + +00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:49.360 +myself big now on the screen that would + +00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:52.000 +be splendid yeah sure + +00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:55.839 +thank you so uh where are we + +00:08:55.839 --> 00:08:58.720 +question 12. okay so what's better one + +00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:00.160 +big file + +00:09:00.160 --> 00:09:02.160 +I did is it did a job to tell me that I + +00:09:02.160 --> 00:09:03.120 +haven't answered the question because + +00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:04.240 +someone just + +00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:06.320 +asked me the question well personally if + +00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:08.080 +I were to give you a quick answer in + +00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:08.560 +like + +00:09:08.560 --> 00:09:11.600 +20 seconds personally I think it's a + +00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:13.920 +question that is contextually based + +00:09:13.920 --> 00:09:15.680 +do you want something that is efficient + +00:09:15.680 --> 00:09:17.839 +as far as optimization is concerned + +00:09:17.839 --> 00:09:21.200 +then you need to think about + +00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:23.440 +this and personally for all the + +00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:24.640 +organization that I do + +00:09:24.640 --> 00:09:26.640 +all this stuff all the to-do's that I + +00:09:26.640 --> 00:09:27.760 +handle + +00:09:27.760 --> 00:09:30.080 +I like to do this in one simple big file + +00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:31.519 +because you benefit from all the + +00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:33.760 +refiling capabilities of log mode + +00:09:33.760 --> 00:09:36.320 +so I would do that but for knowledge + +00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:37.200 +management + +00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:40.080 +for note-taking and all this well I'd + +00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:41.279 +much rather follow the + +00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:42.959 +orgrom way of doing things which is + +00:09:42.959 --> 00:09:44.480 +about having many + +00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:48.240 +small files okay I'm not getting any + +00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.000 +more questions I'm not sure if there is + +00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:52.080 +one on ise that could be fed to me + +00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:53.040 +otherwise I'm + +00:09:53.040 --> 00:09:56.399 +happy to to uh pass over to the next uh + +00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:57.040 +speaker + +00:09:57.040 --> 00:09:59.360 +and by the way just before I finish your + +00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:01.360 +world is a lie it's not a three-piece + +00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:04.399 +suit I'm wearing jeans below so I hope + +00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:06.520 +that satisfies your curiosity + +00:10:06.520 --> 00:10:10.640 +[Music] + +00:10:10.640 --> 00:10:12.640 +okay there's one more question appearing + +00:10:12.640 --> 00:10:15.040 +but otherwise one big file to have + +00:10:15.040 --> 00:10:17.680 +everything so I'm putting you on the + +00:10:17.680 --> 00:10:19.760 +spot I believe it was such a short talk + +00:10:19.760 --> 00:10:21.040 +you know the problem is + +00:10:21.040 --> 00:10:23.600 +I just wanted to give you a little + +00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:24.720 +answer + +00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:26.959 +a little you know path of thinking on + +00:10:26.959 --> 00:10:27.920 +this topic + +00:10:27.920 --> 00:10:29.839 +but obviously it's a topic I could be + +00:10:29.839 --> 00:10:31.600 +spending 40 minutes on but + +00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:33.200 +I'm going to be drained you're going to + +00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:35.120 +be drained nobody's going to be happy if + +00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:35.680 +I do this + +00:10:35.680 --> 00:10:39.440 +so + +00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:41.200 +and someone asked me if I switch between + +00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:42.880 +british and french accents + +00:10:42.880 --> 00:10:46.560 +so a little a little secret for you um + +00:10:46.560 --> 00:10:48.480 +when I'm stressed I tend to relate to a + +00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:49.760 +french accent + +00:10:49.760 --> 00:10:53.760 +so you can measure the amount of stress + +00:10:53.760 --> 00:10:56.160 +that I'm feeling during this talk + +00:10:56.160 --> 00:10:58.880 +with the amount of h's that I drop and + +00:10:58.880 --> 00:11:00.560 +the amount of uh + +00:11:00.560 --> 00:11:02.720 +sheer fright that you can see sometimes + +00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:04.399 +in my eyes when I'm thinking about what + +00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:08.240 +to say next + +00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:10.880 +all right sir so I mean do you believe + +00:11:10.880 --> 00:11:11.360 +we can + +00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:14.240 +leave it at that and uh I'll be you + +00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:15.519 +people will see plenty more with me + +00:11:15.519 --> 00:11:17.040 +later on anyway + +00:11:17.040 --> 00:11:20.000 +right um so looking at the schedule I + +00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:20.640 +think + +00:11:20.640 --> 00:11:23.920 +your talk has until like 202 meaning + +00:11:23.920 --> 00:11:27.120 +like five or six minutes from now oh + +00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:28.000 +right + +00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:30.000 +yeah so if you do like to take like one + +00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:31.680 +or two questions to add two more + +00:11:31.680 --> 00:11:33.920 +questions by all means + +00:11:33.920 --> 00:11:37.040 +okay so uh someone has asked me what is + +00:11:37.040 --> 00:11:38.320 +the emacs icon + +00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:40.640 +icon sorry see another french accent + +00:11:40.640 --> 00:11:42.880 +here uh in my status bar + +00:11:42.880 --> 00:11:44.880 +uh oh sorry I'm not sharing anymore uh I + +00:11:44.880 --> 00:11:46.640 +might just share again just so that + +00:11:46.640 --> 00:11:49.200 +everyone can catch a glimpse of that + +00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:53.120 +uh there we go allow + +00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:54.880 +so it should be so if you could make me + +00:11:54.880 --> 00:11:56.240 +small again I'm in I'm not sure if it's + +00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:56.959 +going to do it + +00:11:56.959 --> 00:12:00.480 +by itself but I do have a little icon + +00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:01.839 +here in my status bar + +00:12:01.839 --> 00:12:04.480 +which is basically a way to interact + +00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:05.760 +with all protocol + +00:12:05.760 --> 00:12:07.279 +uh I'm not going to look for it right + +00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:09.120 +now but it's uh + +00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:10.800 +it's a browser extension that is + +00:12:10.800 --> 00:12:12.399 +developed by one of my friends + +00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:15.680 +over at ranger whose name is v phone and + +00:12:15.680 --> 00:12:16.160 +uh + +00:12:16.160 --> 00:12:18.240 +it's very useful I'm someone who uses a + +00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:19.680 +lot of uh + +00:12:19.680 --> 00:12:22.320 +of uh all protocols and by the way I + +00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:23.040 +used to teach + +00:12:23.040 --> 00:12:25.279 +english okay to high schoolers and they + +00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:27.279 +were supremely worried + +00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:29.600 +when I show them my status line and they + +00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:30.800 +so kill + +00:12:30.800 --> 00:12:34.000 +and explore in my status line so as + +00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:36.560 +fellow emacs users you know that + +00:12:36.560 --> 00:12:37.839 +obviously kill + +00:12:37.839 --> 00:12:40.880 +means to kill a selection of text and + +00:12:40.880 --> 00:12:44.320 +keep it inside your clipboard + +00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:47.279 +but for my students who you know they + +00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:48.320 +were very worried + +00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:51.600 +about what their professor was up to + +00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:53.600 +doing his nights + +00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:55.120 +so let's see if we've got more questions + +00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:56.560 +so I'm showing you the questions on the + +00:12:56.560 --> 00:12:57.920 +rainbow so let's see if + +00:12:57.920 --> 00:13:00.560 +we've got more so people are posting a + +00:13:00.560 --> 00:13:01.920 +lot of questions now + +00:13:01.920 --> 00:13:03.920 +so how do you feel about archiving files + +00:13:03.920 --> 00:13:06.399 +in old mode and how can that work in + +00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:09.360 +so one of the thing when we think about + +00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:10.240 +optimization + +00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:13.920 +is yes archiving done trees + +00:13:13.920 --> 00:13:16.240 +is a good idea because it means that if + +00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:17.920 +we go back to the org element the way it + +00:13:17.920 --> 00:13:18.720 +works + +00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:20.399 +and we'll get into technical details + +00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:22.079 +afterwards I'm giving a presentation + +00:13:22.079 --> 00:13:24.079 +about all grown technical suspect + +00:13:24.079 --> 00:13:26.880 +aspects sorry so I'll have a chance to + +00:13:26.880 --> 00:13:28.399 +expand a little more on this + +00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:31.360 +but basically all elements need to uh + +00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:32.160 +every time + +00:13:32.160 --> 00:13:35.279 +it sees a to do it has to consider it + +00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:38.320 +even though it is a done to do why + +00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:40.000 +because let's say for instance that in + +00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:41.839 +your agenda you want to activate + +00:13:41.839 --> 00:13:45.519 +log mode which is going to show the + +00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:48.959 +tasks which are done now you could be + +00:13:48.959 --> 00:13:49.519 +clever + +00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:51.440 +and say oh okay the old agenda does not + +00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:53.360 +need to show don items so it's not going + +00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:54.880 +to look for them + +00:13:54.880 --> 00:13:56.959 +but the problem is that all elements is + +00:13:56.959 --> 00:13:58.720 +always called it always needs to pass + +00:13:58.720 --> 00:13:59.519 +the buffer + +00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:01.839 +you know uh nicodego as you who is the + +00:14:01.839 --> 00:14:03.519 +french developer who's worked a whole + +00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:05.040 +lot on all elements + +00:14:05.040 --> 00:14:07.440 +has gone through a lot of trouble to + +00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:08.399 +optimize all + +00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:11.600 +elements but the problem is + +00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:13.279 +there's just so much that we can do with + +00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:14.720 +a concurrent process + +00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:18.560 +and right now it leaves somewhat + +00:14:18.560 --> 00:14:21.120 +uh you know things to be desired but + +00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:22.079 +we're working on it + +00:14:22.079 --> 00:14:24.800 +and one more time I feel like I spent + +00:14:24.800 --> 00:14:25.839 +half of this talk + +00:14:25.839 --> 00:14:28.000 +teasing my next talks but I'll be + +00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:29.360 +talking more about this + +00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:31.279 +in my future talks in about one to two + +00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:32.639 +hours + +00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:34.959 +so continuing with questions how big are + +00:14:34.959 --> 00:14:36.079 +my org files + +00:14:36.079 --> 00:14:37.760 +so in the background I'm just going to + +00:14:37.760 --> 00:14:39.839 +check how many lines I have in my main + +00:14:39.839 --> 00:14:40.720 +file + +00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:42.959 +so in my own file so the one I told you + +00:14:42.959 --> 00:14:44.079 +about where I keep all + +00:14:44.079 --> 00:14:47.279 +my to do gtd stuff I have + +00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:50.720 +38 000 lines which is + +00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.000 +you know it's sizable definitely + +00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:57.040 +but I do archive a lot of stuff + +00:14:57.040 --> 00:14:58.480 +so that might be a slight difference + +00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:00.880 +between uh my myself and carl voight + +00:15:00.880 --> 00:15:02.079 +even though I don't remember if they + +00:15:02.079 --> 00:15:04.880 +actually archive stuff + +00:15:04.880 --> 00:15:06.639 +so does it not consume more resources + +00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:08.480 +and time to load multiple files + +00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:10.839 +files than a large file or the same + +00:15:10.839 --> 00:15:12.560 +content now + +00:15:12.560 --> 00:15:15.839 +theoretically yes having many files + +00:15:15.839 --> 00:15:19.279 +open concurrently is slightly slower + +00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:22.240 +than having one main file opened + +00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.160 +now the problem is for those of you who + +00:15:24.160 --> 00:15:25.279 +have large files + +00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:27.199 +you may have noticed that when you are + +00:15:27.199 --> 00:15:29.360 +scrolling in a very large file + +00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:32.560 +it starts taking quite a bit of time why + +00:15:32.560 --> 00:15:34.480 +it's because you know in old mode you + +00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:35.920 +have a lot of content + +00:15:35.920 --> 00:15:38.959 +that is hidden so when you have + +00:15:38.959 --> 00:15:40.959 +the view mode which hides as much stuff + +00:15:40.959 --> 00:15:43.040 +as possible means meaning that you only + +00:15:43.040 --> 00:15:43.600 +see + +00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:45.360 +the top heading and I'm checking the + +00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:46.880 +time I mean don't worry I'm I'm finished + +00:15:46.880 --> 00:15:50.240 +on this one + +00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:52.160 +when you're hiding a whole lot of stuff + +00:15:52.160 --> 00:15:53.360 +you know orgmo + +00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:54.720 +needs to keep track or I should say + +00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:56.959 +emacs needs to keep track of which areas + +00:15:56.959 --> 00:15:58.160 +of text to show + +00:15:58.160 --> 00:16:00.560 +and which areas of text to hide and the + +00:16:00.560 --> 00:16:02.320 +problem is that when you're hiding stuff + +00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:04.480 +let's say you're moving from line the + +00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:06.320 +first heading to the second heading + +00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:08.639 +but you've got like 10 000 lines between + +00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:09.839 +those two headings + +00:16:09.839 --> 00:16:11.519 +well he max needs to compute the + +00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:13.680 +difference between the two passages + +00:16:13.680 --> 00:16:15.680 +and that takes quite a lot of time and + +00:16:15.680 --> 00:16:17.040 +in that that's my + +00:16:17.040 --> 00:16:18.560 +why you might realize that it's a little + +00:16:18.560 --> 00:16:20.560 +choppy when you start scrolling in large + +00:16:20.560 --> 00:16:21.199 +files + +00:16:21.199 --> 00:16:22.560 +anyway I could be answering questions + +00:16:22.560 --> 00:16:24.480 +about org mode for literally two hours + +00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:25.120 +straight + +00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:26.720 +so I'm gonna end it over to the next + +00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:28.639 +speakers and I'll be seeing + +00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:31.759 +seeing you guys a little later thank you + +00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:33.440 +very much leo + +00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:36.959 +oh thank you yes bye + +00:16:36.959 --> 00:16:39.839 +bye |