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So you've - -0:00:05.839,0:00:08.880 -just had a - -0:00:06.879,0:00:10.320 -little roundup of the news, and we're - -0:00:08.880,0:00:11.120 -going to get started now with some - -0:00:10.320,0:00:13.840 -presentations. - -0:00:11.120,0:00:15.920 -We're starting with user - -0:00:13.840,0:00:18.000 -developer stories. - -0:00:15.920,0:00:19.199 -I was extremely interested in this - -0:00:18.000,0:00:21.600 -section because I - -0:00:19.199,0:00:24.160 -wanted to get a chance, basically, to tell - -0:00:21.600,0:00:27.039 -you a little more about who I am and - -0:00:24.160,0:00:28.160 -how I got from basically being a user of - -0:00:27.039,0:00:30.640 -Emacs - -0:00:28.160,0:00:31.279 -to being nowadays a package - -0:00:30.640,0:00:33.280 -maintainer, - -0:00:31.279,0:00:34.559 -and maybe more in the future. I don't - -0:00:33.280,0:00:36.160 -know. So, - -0:00:34.559,0:00:37.760 -just for the organizers, I'm planning to - -0:00:36.160,0:00:39.680 -speak for 15 minutes, and I'll have five - -0:00:37.760,0:00:41.360 -more minutes of questions at the end. - -0:00:39.680,0:00:43.440 -As I told you before, if you want to have - -0:00:41.360,0:00:44.879 -questions, you know you can use the pad, - -0:00:43.440,0:00:47.360 -and I'll be reading the questions from - -0:00:44.879,0:00:49.600 -there. Okay. So - -0:00:47.360,0:00:51.280 -hi there, as Amin introduced me before, - -0:00:49.600,0:00:53.280 -my name is Leo Vivier. - -0:00:51.280,0:00:54.800 -I'm a freelance software engineer - -0:00:54.800,0:00:59.359 -in France, and I have been using Emacs - -0:00:58.079,0:01:01.280 -now for - -0:00:59.359,0:01:03.039 -i believe close to eight years. I can't - -0:01:01.280,0:01:07.680 -believe it's been so long. - -0:01:03.039,0:01:12.000 -But yes, it's been a journey because, - -0:01:07.680,0:01:14.560 -in a way, nothing - -0:01:12.000,0:01:15.119 -made me go for Emacs. You know I'm an-- - -0:01:15.119,0:01:19.200 -sorry, I was about to say Emacs major, but - -0:01:17.280,0:01:21.280 -no, I'm an English major. I went to - -0:01:19.200,0:01:24.320 -university to study English literature - -0:01:21.280,0:01:26.159 -and linguistics, and - -0:01:24.320,0:01:28.240 -I just got started in emacs - -0:01:26.159,0:01:31.340 -because I was looking for ways to take - -0:01:28.240,0:01:32.640 -better notes. I was looking for ways to - -0:01:31.340,0:01:34.640 -[Applause] - -0:01:32.640,0:01:36.720 -structure the way I was learning, - -0:01:34.640,0:01:40.079 -structure the way I was - -0:01:36.720,0:01:42.320 -taking notes. I stumbled one day - -0:01:40.079,0:01:43.759 -upon this weird piece of software which - -0:01:42.320,0:01:46.479 -was called Emacs, - -0:01:43.759,0:01:47.920 -and I've been trapped forever since, - -0:01:46.479,0:01:49.280 -basically, because - -0:01:47.920,0:01:51.119 -eight years ago, when I discovered - -0:01:49.280,0:01:52.720 -Emacs I just couldn't let go. There was - -0:01:51.119,0:01:55.439 -just something very - -0:01:52.720,0:01:56.320 -interesting about the way you configured - -0:01:55.439,0:01:58.799 -your setup, - -0:01:56.320,0:01:59.759 -and I just wanted to dive deeper and - -0:01:58.799,0:02:04.320 -deeper. - -0:01:59.759,0:02:06.640 -So the title is of this talk exactly is - -0:02:04.320,0:02:08.000 -how I went from user to package - -0:02:06.640,0:02:09.840 -maintainer, and - -0:02:08.000,0:02:11.599 -the package now that I'm maintaining is - -0:02:09.840,0:02:12.080 -called org-roam. I'm not the only one - -0:02:11.599,0:02:14.879 -doing this. - -0:02:12.080,0:02:15.440 -I'm helped with many lovely people - -0:02:15.440,0:02:21.360 -working on org-roam. - -0:02:18.720,0:02:23.360 -I got started as a maintainer - -0:02:21.360,0:02:24.720 -only this year, so that means that for - -0:02:23.360,0:02:27.360 -the eight years I've been - -0:02:24.720,0:02:29.200 -an Emacs user, seven of those years were - -0:02:27.360,0:02:31.040 -spent merely being a user - -0:02:29.200,0:02:33.920 -trying to be a sponge for knowledge, - -0:02:31.040,0:02:36.800 -trying to learn as much as I could. - -0:02:33.920,0:02:39.040 -I believe it would be - -0:02:36.800,0:02:40.959 -interesting for me to share my story - -0:02:39.040,0:02:42.160 -because I believe that I'm far from - -0:02:40.959,0:02:43.599 -being the only user - -0:02:42.160,0:02:45.519 -who can make the jump to being a - -0:02:43.599,0:02:46.879 -maintainer. A lot of you have - -0:02:45.519,0:02:48.959 -a lot of knowledge when it comes to - -0:02:46.879,0:02:51.040 -Emacs. Some of you - -0:02:48.959,0:02:52.720 -are at different steps in your journey. - -0:02:51.040,0:02:55.680 -Some of you, for instance, are just - -0:02:52.720,0:02:57.040 -starting to copy stuff out of - -0:02:55.680,0:02:59.519 -StackExchange - -0:02:57.040,0:03:00.720 -into your Emacs configuration. let's - -0:02:59.519,0:03:01.599 -say you want to do something very - -0:03:00.720,0:03:04.480 -particular - -0:03:01.599,0:03:05.920 -and you haven't found a way to do so. - -0:03:04.480,0:03:06.640 -You go on StackExchange. You find - -0:03:05.920,0:03:09.040 -something - -0:03:06.640,0:03:10.239 -that's interesting. You add it to your - -0:03:09.040,0:03:11.680 -Emacs configuration. You - -0:03:10.239,0:03:13.519 -barely understand anything that's going - -0:03:11.680,0:03:14.800 -on. You know that it's supposed to be - -0:03:13.519,0:03:17.200 -Emacs Lisp. - -0:03:14.800,0:03:19.440 -"I hardly know Emacs and I - -0:03:17.200,0:03:21.440 -know even less what is Lisp supposed to be." - -0:03:19.440,0:03:22.800 -But you paste it in and it does what you - -0:03:21.440,0:03:26.959 -want it to do, and you say - -0:03:22.800,0:03:29.280 -"Great, I'll move on to my work now." So - -0:03:26.959,0:03:30.879 -that's how I got started. I had - -0:03:29.280,0:03:33.440 -a very spartan - -0:03:30.879,0:03:35.200 -setup for Emacs, which a lot of you must - -0:03:33.440,0:03:36.000 -know... The first time you launch Emacs, - -0:03:36.000,0:03:39.599 -you have this feeling that you're jumping 20 - -0:03:37.840,0:03:43.680 -years back in time, as far as the - -0:03:39.599,0:03:45.920 -user interface is concerned. But - -0:03:43.680,0:03:46.959 -as you get to spend more time with Emacs... - -0:03:46.959,0:03:50.959 -Some would call it Stockholm syndrome - -0:03:49.120,0:03:53.360 -insofar as you can't see - -0:03:50.959,0:03:54.640 -how spartan the entire thing is, but it - -0:03:53.360,0:03:58.400 -actually is - -0:03:54.640,0:04:00.400 -a lovely prison so to speak. - -0:03:58.400,0:04:01.680 -That's how I got started eight years - -0:04:00.400,0:04:04.319 -ago. I just wanted - -0:04:01.680,0:04:05.519 -to find a way to do my research properly. - -0:04:04.319,0:04:07.280 -I wanted to have a - -0:04:05.519,0:04:08.959 -tool that I could use to write my notes - -0:04:07.280,0:04:11.680 -in plain text, because I was already - -0:04:08.959,0:04:14.560 -fairly averse to - -0:04:11.680,0:04:16.320 -Microsoft solutions when it - -0:04:14.560,0:04:19.359 -came to taking notes. - -0:04:16.320,0:04:20.880 -So yeah, I got started in emacs. I - -0:04:19.359,0:04:23.040 -read a little bit about what plain text - -0:04:20.880,0:04:26.000 -was about. Just to be clear, - -0:04:23.040,0:04:27.120 -at the time, yes, I was very good with - -0:04:26.000,0:04:30.160 -computers, - -0:04:27.120,0:04:32.479 -but I was not a computer science student. - -0:04:30.160,0:04:33.520 -I had barely any experience with - -0:04:32.479,0:04:36.080 -programming - -0:04:33.520,0:04:36.800 -and coding, and I was even less of a - -0:04:36.080,0:04:39.919 -hacker - -0:04:36.800,0:04:42.560 -back then. - -0:04:39.919,0:04:44.479 -It just goes to show you that at the - -0:04:42.560,0:04:45.840 -beginning, I had close to no knowledge, - -0:04:44.479,0:04:47.840 -whether it be about - -0:04:45.840,0:04:48.880 -the free software world, whether it be - -0:04:47.840,0:04:50.800 -about... - -0:04:48.880,0:04:52.479 -Sacha, do you want to say something? (Sacha: just - -0:04:50.800,0:04:54.080 -confirming, you're not sharing anything - -0:04:52.479,0:04:55.360 -on the screen at the moment, right?) - -0:04:54.080,0:04:55.759 -No, I'm not sharing anything, I'm - -0:04:55.360,0:04:59.040 -just - -0:04:55.759,0:05:02.240 -presenting. - -0:04:59.040,0:05:03.680 -So when I started, I had no - -0:05:02.240,0:05:07.199 -experience whatsoever. - -0:05:03.680,0:05:10.080 -I was just a literature major - -0:05:07.199,0:05:11.039 -trying to get better at taking notes. - -0:05:11.039,0:05:15.280 -I stumbled upon LaTeX. As many people - -0:05:13.440,0:05:17.039 -who stumble upon LaTeX know, - -0:05:15.280,0:05:19.759 -you don't just stumble upon - -0:05:17.039,0:05:21.199 -LaTeX, you embroil yourself in the - -0:05:19.759,0:05:24.560 -turmoil of - -0:05:21.199,0:05:27.440 -suffering, of late nights tweaking, - -0:05:24.560,0:05:30.000 -so that your document is exactly in the - -0:05:27.440,0:05:33.440 -perfect shape you want it to be. - -0:05:33.440,0:05:36.639 -Soon after, when I got started with Emacs - -0:05:35.520,0:05:38.400 -and LaTeX, - -0:05:36.639,0:05:40.560 -I discovered something that truly - -0:05:38.400,0:05:44.479 -changed my life, and it was Org Mode. - -0:05:40.560,0:05:46.960 -As you'll get a lot of presentations - -0:05:44.479,0:05:49.360 -this afternoon about Org Mode, - -0:05:46.960,0:05:50.479 -I won't be spending too much time on it. - -0:05:49.360,0:05:53.680 -But Org Mode, - -0:05:50.479,0:05:56.880 -for me, was a revelation. It's... - -0:05:53.680,0:05:59.039 -There was something that, upon reading - -0:05:56.880,0:06:02.080 -articles on how to use Org Mode, - -0:05:59.039,0:06:04.160 -especially one of the key - -0:06:02.080,0:06:06.000 -article that I'd read which really made - -0:06:04.160,0:06:09.199 -a huge impact on me - -0:06:06.000,0:06:10.720 -was the "Organize Your Life in Plain Text" one - -0:06:09.199,0:06:12.240 -which i'm sure many of you must have - -0:06:10.720,0:06:15.919 -stumbled upon - -0:06:12.240,0:06:18.720 -in your Emacs journey... - -0:06:15.919,0:06:19.680 -For me, when I stumbled upon - -0:06:18.720,0:06:21.840 -this - -0:06:19.680,0:06:23.440 -document, I was starting to get - -0:06:21.840,0:06:24.240 -interested in Getting Things - -0:06:23.440,0:06:26.560 -Done and - -0:06:24.240,0:06:29.199 -all the nitty-gritty stuff about - -0:06:26.560,0:06:31.919 -organization and self-organization. - -0:06:29.199,0:06:32.960 -It just felt like everything was under - -0:06:31.919,0:06:36.960 -my fingertips - -0:06:32.960,0:06:40.880 -to make the perfect workflow. - -0:06:36.960,0:06:44.080 -There was something incredibly - -0:06:40.880,0:06:46.319 -satisfying about - -0:06:44.080,0:06:48.319 -having a system that gave you so many - -0:06:46.319,0:06:50.160 -options to configure your experience - -0:06:48.319,0:06:54.479 -exactly how you wanted. - -0:06:50.160,0:06:57.199 -You had this feeling that - -0:06:54.479,0:06:57.599 -the people behind Org Mode had thought - -0:06:57.199,0:07:00.479 -of everything, - -0:06:57.599,0:07:02.000 -whichever small adjustment - -0:07:00.479,0:07:04.800 -that you needed in workflow - -0:07:02.000,0:07:05.440 -whether it be more states for your - -0:07:04.800,0:07:07.520 -TODOs, - -0:07:05.440,0:07:09.360 -whether it be, oh, I want my weeks to - -0:07:07.520,0:07:13.039 -start on Monday and not on Saturday, - -0:07:09.360,0:07:13.520 -oh, it's half past one and I need - -0:07:13.039,0:07:15.280 -to... - -0:07:13.520,0:07:17.039 -in the morning, I mean, and I need to make - -0:07:15.280,0:07:17.680 -sure that the item that i'm marking as done - -0:07:17.680,0:07:21.199 -is done for the day before and not for - -0:07:19.199,0:07:21.919 -the current day. You see what I'm talking about. - -0:07:21.919,0:07:28.800 -So many details that were already - -0:07:25.280,0:07:31.039 -present in Org Mode. At first you're - -0:07:28.800,0:07:34.080 -really impressed, because you think, - -0:07:31.039,0:07:35.599 -wow, they thought of everything, but then - -0:07:34.080,0:07:38.080 -you realize that it's just a matter of - -0:07:35.599,0:07:40.800 -experience, just a matter of people - -0:07:38.080,0:07:42.400 -contributing code, because the - -0:07:40.800,0:07:43.520 -development of Org Mode, Emacs, and - -0:07:42.400,0:07:45.440 -everything is just - -0:07:43.520,0:07:46.879 -open to the public. You know, it's like - -0:07:45.440,0:07:48.560 -everything is being done with the garage - -0:07:46.879,0:07:50.960 -door opened. You can just - -0:07:48.560,0:07:51.680 -go on Org Mode on Savannah and see - -0:07:50.960,0:07:54.800 -everything that is being developed. - -0:07:54.800,0:08:02.639 -For me, the shift that occurred - -0:07:58.639,0:08:04.240 -in my mind was when - -0:08:02.639,0:08:06.240 -I was reading all the options, I - -0:08:04.240,0:08:08.160 -was looking at all the variables that i - -0:08:06.240,0:08:11.440 -could modify for Org Mode, - -0:08:08.160,0:08:12.560 -and there came a time, maybe two to three - -0:08:11.440,0:08:15.599 -years ago, - -0:08:12.560,0:08:17.759 -where I thought, oh wow, - -0:08:15.599,0:08:19.599 -maybe for the first time in a while, - -0:08:17.759,0:08:21.440 -there is no option for me to do what I - -0:08:19.599,0:08:24.479 -want to be doing with Org Mode. - -0:08:21.440,0:08:26.400 -I believe at the time the the key - -0:08:24.479,0:08:29.199 -issue that triggered this reflex for me was - -0:08:29.199,0:08:33.599 -I wanted to do something with the agenda. - -0:08:31.039,0:08:34.159 -I wanted to have a super category so, you - -0:08:33.599,0:08:36.320 -know, in the... - -0:08:34.159,0:08:38.000 -for those of you who know, in your - -0:08:36.320,0:08:39.440 -agenda, you have the ability to have many - -0:08:38.000,0:08:41.200 -files, and you have the ability to have - -0:08:39.440,0:08:44.560 -categories. - -0:08:41.200,0:08:47.920 -I wanted somehow to group my - -0:08:47.920,0:08:52.560 -TODOs in smaller groups, or bigger - -0:08:51.680,0:08:53.920 -groups, I should say, - -0:08:52.560,0:08:55.440 -so that, for instance, I could have one - -0:08:53.920,0:08:56.000 -group for my professional life, I could - -0:08:55.440,0:08:59.120 -have a group - -0:08:56.000,0:08:59.600 -for one work, the second - -0:08:59.120,0:09:00.800 -work... - -0:08:59.600,0:09:02.800 -I could have something for - -0:09:00.800,0:09:06.000 -university and all this. - -0:09:02.800,0:09:08.240 -I thought, yeah, - -0:09:06.000,0:09:09.600 -I think I'd like this. - -0:09:09.600,0:09:15.519 -After having spent so long working - -0:09:12.959,0:09:17.200 -with Emacs and working with Org Mode, - -0:09:15.519,0:09:18.800 -I had some ideas about what was - -0:09:17.200,0:09:21.120 -within the realm of possibility and what - -0:09:18.800,0:09:23.040 -wasn't. Here I thought to myself, - -0:09:21.120,0:09:24.320 -this is definitely something that I can do. - -0:09:24.320,0:09:31.360 -And so thus started my journey - -0:09:27.839,0:09:33.040 -into the Org Mode libraries. - -0:09:31.360,0:09:34.959 -I won't go too much into details right - -0:09:33.040,0:09:37.040 -now, because right now, the main objective - -0:09:34.959,0:09:40.240 -that I have is just to show you - -0:09:37.040,0:09:41.600 -how simple it is to become a maintainer, - -0:09:40.240,0:09:42.800 -how to become more involved with the - -0:09:41.600,0:09:46.320 -development. - -0:09:42.800,0:09:48.839 -The libraries in Org Mode, - -0:09:46.320,0:09:50.320 -they're written in Elisp, which is a very... - -0:09:50.320,0:09:54.080 -It might seem like an obscure language, - -0:09:52.080,0:09:56.399 -and it certainly is, - -0:09:54.080,0:09:57.279 -but as soon as you get the logic of the - -0:09:56.399,0:09:59.360 -language--and - -0:09:57.279,0:10:00.560 -what i'm telling you - -0:09:59.360,0:10:01.760 -is coming from someone who's never - -0:10:00.560,0:10:04.399 -studied programming-- - -0:10:01.760,0:10:06.079 -it made sense. - -0:10:04.399,0:10:07.279 -Everything is so verbose when you get - -0:10:06.079,0:10:10.399 -into the code. - -0:10:07.279,0:10:13.360 -When you learn the rudiments - -0:10:10.399,0:10:14.079 -of Elisp, you start getting to the code, - -0:10:13.360,0:10:17.120 -and you start - -0:10:14.079,0:10:19.519 -thinking, wow, okay that makes sense, - -0:10:17.120,0:10:21.360 -and you start developing a logic - -0:10:19.519,0:10:24.720 -for all this. - -0:10:21.360,0:10:26.959 -So, equipped as I was with this - -0:10:24.720,0:10:27.760 -new knowledge, I went on my project, - -0:10:27.760,0:10:30.880 -i went into the Org agenda code, - -0:10:30.000,0:10:33.440 -and I thought, okay, - -0:10:30.880,0:10:34.640 -is there anything that I can use to do - -0:10:33.440,0:10:37.760 -my bidding? - -0:10:34.640,0:10:38.560 -Fast forward maybe two to three weeks of - -0:10:38.560,0:10:42.720 -intense turmoil and many nights which - -0:10:41.600,0:10:45.279 -were spent - -0:10:42.720,0:10:46.079 -single-mindedly working on this project, - -0:10:46.079,0:10:51.680 -two weeks after, I had something that was - -0:10:48.079,0:10:54.640 -working, and I was pretty happy about it. - -0:10:51.680,0:10:56.800 -That was a key landmark for - -0:10:54.640,0:11:00.320 -me, because when that happened, - -0:10:56.800,0:11:02.160 -it just felt like, okay, I can contribute - -0:11:00.320,0:11:03.120 -something to Org Mode, and I can do - -0:11:02.160,0:11:06.000 -something that would benefit as many people - -0:11:06.000,0:11:09.519 -as possible. - -0:11:07.600,0:11:11.440 -And to me, that was the click. That's when - -0:11:09.519,0:11:13.680 -it occurred. That's when I - -0:11:11.440,0:11:14.640 -went on my first project and I did something - -0:11:14.640,0:11:18.079 -that felt useful to the community. - -0:11:18.079,0:11:21.760 -And nowadays, as I told you, I - -0:11:20.079,0:11:22.640 -maintain packages, but really, nothing - -0:11:21.760,0:11:24.399 -has changed. - -0:11:22.640,0:11:26.880 -The only thing, maybe, that has changed - -0:11:24.399,0:11:28.320 -that I've turned my mind onto other problems. - -0:11:28.320,0:11:35.279 -Maybe I've got three more minutes - -0:11:32.000,0:11:38.399 -and I'd like to finish by - -0:11:35.279,0:11:39.600 -maybe something a little different. - -0:11:38.399,0:11:42.079 -I've told you my Emacs story and - -0:11:39.600,0:11:43.600 -I hope I've stressed how little effort - -0:11:42.079,0:11:46.560 -it took me to - -0:11:43.600,0:11:48.399 -move from steps to steps on the ladder. - -0:11:46.560,0:11:48.959 -The ladder implies a sense of hierarchy, - -0:11:48.399,0:11:52.240 -but it really isn't. - -0:11:48.959,0:11:53.920 -Whatever your step on the - -0:11:52.240,0:11:55.600 -journey of Emacs is... - -0:11:53.920,0:11:57.440 -Some of you might be at the - -0:11:55.600,0:11:59.360 -step where you're really worried - -0:11:57.440,0:12:01.440 -about learning Elisp because it feels - -0:11:59.360,0:12:02.399 -like such a monumental task to be - -0:12:01.440,0:12:04.720 -undertaking - -0:12:02.399,0:12:06.079 -and you have no experience whatsoever, - -0:12:04.720,0:12:07.839 -but the thing is, - -0:12:06.079,0:12:09.600 -maybe you could try climbing this first - -0:12:07.839,0:12:11.200 -step on the ladder. Maybe you could try, - -0:12:09.600,0:12:13.120 -if you have any project, - -0:12:11.200,0:12:14.880 -if you've been using Org Mode, - -0:12:13.120,0:12:15.600 -maybe one day you thought, "oh, yes, - -0:12:15.600,0:12:19.920 -I wish I could do this but I can't," - -0:12:18.160,0:12:21.680 -or maybe do try to do this, - -0:12:19.920,0:12:23.279 -maybe do try to change something in a - -0:12:21.680,0:12:26.560 -major mode that you're using - -0:12:23.279,0:12:29.760 -and which you feel might be better. - -0:12:26.560,0:12:31.040 -I think Emacs, Org Mode, and all free - -0:12:29.760,0:12:34.240 -software in general - -0:12:31.040,0:12:34.720 -has this tendency to give you this idea - -0:12:34.720,0:12:41.360 -that I can be a hacker - -0:12:38.720,0:12:43.200 -in the sense of the term - -0:12:41.360,0:12:46.320 -that you're modifying things - -0:12:43.200,0:12:48.399 -to do your bidding. - -0:12:46.320,0:12:50.320 -For me, I believe this to be a very - -0:12:48.399,0:12:52.959 -healthy attitude towards software. - -0:12:50.320,0:12:54.079 -As Amin said in the very beginning, - -0:12:54.079,0:12:59.360 -we are doing this entire presentation-- - -0:12:57.279,0:13:00.800 -sorry, this entire conference with free software. - -0:13:00.800,0:13:03.920 -Just see all the things we've been able - -0:13:02.240,0:13:07.360 -to do in free software. - -0:13:03.920,0:13:10.399 -For me, Emacs - -0:13:07.360,0:13:14.399 -was my gateway, so to speak, - -0:13:10.399,0:13:17.200 -into how to contribute to free software, - -0:13:14.399,0:13:18.639 -about the philosophy that surrounds it. - -0:13:18.639,0:13:22.000 -What I would like to do... I'll finish - -0:13:20.560,0:13:23.360 -on this note and then I'll be taking - -0:13:22.000,0:13:26.480 -your questions. - -0:13:23.360,0:13:29.360 -Just try. - -0:13:26.480,0:13:31.279 -You've read on Reddit that you - -0:13:29.360,0:13:33.040 -need to go through the Elisp manual - -0:13:31.279,0:13:35.920 -in Emacs. You might be scared, - -0:13:33.040,0:13:38.560 -but just do it. Just give it a shot. - -0:13:35.920,0:13:39.199 -Just give it maybe one afternoon. - -0:13:38.560,0:13:42.160 -Try to read it. - -0:13:39.199,0:13:43.120 -Try to see if this appeals to your mind. - -0:13:43.120,0:13:45.680 -If you've been interested enough in my - -0:13:44.399,0:13:47.199 -presentation right now, and if you're - -0:13:45.680,0:13:48.560 -interested enough in any of the talks - -0:13:47.199,0:13:49.519 -you're going to have during the entire - -0:13:48.560,0:13:51.839 -conference, - -0:13:49.519,0:13:52.959 -do give it a shot. I'm pretty sure - -0:13:51.839,0:13:55.760 -you will like the journey - -0:13:52.959,0:13:57.120 -on which you will be embarking upon. So i - -0:13:55.760,0:13:57.680 -believe i'm finishing one minute early - -0:13:57.120,0:14:00.000 -but I see quite a bit of questions already. - -0:14:01.040,0:14:06.000 -I'm not sure. Sacha, should I - -0:14:04.320,0:14:07.120 -just be reading the questions, or - -0:14:06.000,0:14:08.639 -do you want to be feeding me the - -0:14:07.120,0:14:11.120 -questions? - -0:14:08.639,0:14:12.320 -(Amin: It's really up to you. it's - -0:14:11.120,0:14:13.600 -completely up to you. - -0:14:12.320,0:14:15.839 -If you've got the questions - -0:14:13.600,0:14:18.320 -open and can take them or read them, - -0:14:15.839,0:14:19.680 -by all means please.) - -0:14:18.320,0:14:20.880 -Okay, well, I'm going to read them because - -0:14:19.680,0:14:22.800 -I've got them on the side. I'm going - -0:14:20.880,0:14:24.959 -to start with the one at the bottom. - -0:14:22.800,0:14:26.959 -"Do you feel that being a white male - -0:14:24.959,0:14:29.680 -contributed to your experience?" - -0:14:26.959,0:14:31.360 -Yeah. I mean, I do believe... There's - -0:14:29.680,0:14:34.639 -an idea of privilege. I mean, I'm - -0:14:31.360,0:14:35.279 -french. I live in... I'm lucky enough to - -0:14:34.639,0:14:38.560 -be here - -0:14:35.279,0:14:39.120 -at university, okay, and I'm fairly aware - -0:14:38.560,0:14:41.600 -of the - -0:14:39.120,0:14:42.880 -discrepancies that happen, even in France, - -0:14:41.600,0:14:46.320 -according to this... - -0:14:42.880,0:14:51.040 -So, yes, I believe my journey - -0:14:46.320,0:14:51.040 -was heavily influenced by this. - -0:14:51.199,0:14:54.320 -If you would like to specify the - -0:14:52.639,0:14:56.560 -question, please do, but I don't have - -0:14:54.320,0:14:59.199 -really all that much to ask on this. - -0:14:56.560,0:14:59.839 -"What is your advice to start learning - -0:14:59.839,0:15:04.160 -Elisp language? Any particularly good - -0:15:01.279,0:15:06.880 -resource or any other tips?" I finished - -0:15:04.160,0:15:07.760 -um my presentation by telling you about - -0:15:07.760,0:15:11.519 -the Elisp introduction which is built into - -0:15:10.560,0:15:13.519 -Emacs. What I might do... I'm going to share my - -0:15:13.519,0:15:19.519 -screen just to show you - -0:15:15.120,0:15:22.880 -how this works. I will be sharing - -0:15:19.519,0:15:24.399 -this window. - -0:15:22.880,0:15:27.199 -I believe it's frozen on my end, so I - -0:15:24.399,0:15:28.959 -can't see anything. - -0:15:27.199,0:15:31.680 -i'm not sure if you can see me or if my - -0:15:28.959,0:15:31.680 -camera is moving. - -0:15:32.560,0:15:36.000 -Okay, so my Firefox is frozen. So i'll - -0:15:34.800,0:15:36.800 -answer the question, but I won't be able - -0:15:36.000,0:15:40.000 -to show you - -0:15:36.800,0:15:42.639 -what I wanted to show you. - -0:15:40.000,0:15:44.320 -There's a built-in guide inside Emacs to - -0:15:42.639,0:15:46.880 -learn Elisp. - -0:15:44.320,0:15:49.040 -Maybe the best chance that you have - -0:15:46.880,0:15:50.959 -is just to go open these info pages. - -0:15:49.040,0:15:53.839 -I'm sure someone will be kind enough to - -0:15:50.959,0:15:54.880 -mention this to you in the #emacsconf channel - -0:15:53.839,0:15:56.880 -on IRC - -0:15:54.880,0:15:59.040 -but it's probably the best way - -0:15:56.880,0:16:01.279 -to get started with Elisp. - -0:15:59.040,0:16:03.360 -You know, we tend to get obsessed, with - -0:16:01.279,0:16:04.880 -software and with programming, about - -0:16:03.360,0:16:06.959 -what's the best way to get started. - -0:16:04.880,0:16:08.399 -You see so many people who are - -0:16:06.959,0:16:10.639 -heavily interested - -0:16:08.399,0:16:12.320 -in getting started with programming but - -0:16:10.639,0:16:14.320 -they never managed to get started - -0:16:12.320,0:16:16.320 -because there's so much choice. - -0:16:14.320,0:16:17.920 -My advice would be to just get started. - -0:16:16.320,0:16:18.800 -Don't get so worried about the first step. - -0:16:18.800,0:16:23.920 -Well, if I may still recommend the - -0:16:21.839,0:16:26.480 -first step, even after saying this, - -0:16:23.920,0:16:28.000 -do try to start with the - -0:16:26.480,0:16:29.600 -built-in guides. I believe they're pretty - -0:16:28.000,0:16:32.079 -pretty good. - -0:16:29.600,0:16:33.199 -There was another question. It's - -0:16:32.079,0:16:34.800 -the last question that I can read and - -0:16:33.199,0:16:36.000 -after that, you will have to read - -0:16:34.800,0:16:37.920 -the questions for me because everything - -0:16:36.000,0:16:41.600 -is frozen on my end. - -0:16:37.920,0:16:44.240 -I hope I'm not frozen - -0:16:41.600,0:16:45.680 -in a very bad position so - -0:16:44.240,0:16:48.240 -please excuse me if - -0:16:45.680,0:16:49.759 -my mouth is open or anything. (Amin: no, we - -0:16:48.240,0:16:51.120 -just completely lost the video feed, so - -0:16:49.759,0:16:52.720 -no worries.) - -0:16:51.120,0:16:54.800 -Oh, splendid, so I won't have to make a - -0:16:52.720,0:16:56.800 -fool out of myself. - -0:16:54.800,0:16:58.320 -So the last question I wanted to answer was - -0:16:56.800,0:16:59.199 -"Have you read Dirk Gently's Holistic - -0:16:58.320,0:17:02.079 -Detective Agency?" - -0:16:59.199,0:17:03.519 -No, I haven't. I hope it's not - -0:17:03.519,0:17:06.559 -a jab at the way i'm dressing for the - -0:17:05.199,0:17:08.559 -conference, but yeah, - -0:17:06.559,0:17:10.559 -I haven't read it. Was there any - -0:17:08.559,0:17:13.919 -other question? - -0:17:10.559,0:17:15.919 -(Amin: I see one other question. - -0:17:15.919,0:17:19.679 -"Any recommendation for good packaging - -0:17:17.919,0:17:23.199 -guides or places to start? - -0:17:19.679,0:17:24.959 -i get a bit overwhelmed by some things. - -0:17:23.199,0:17:26.799 -For example, the choice of different test - -0:17:24.959,0:17:28.240 -frameworks.") - -0:17:26.799,0:17:30.400 -Right. Okay. So that's a very good - -0:17:28.240,0:17:33.840 -question. I believe - -0:17:30.400,0:17:35.840 -alphapapa is in the chat right now. - -0:17:33.840,0:17:37.760 -As myself a new lisp developer for - -0:17:35.840,0:17:38.320 -org-roam, i'd really recommend you to look into - -0:17:38.320,0:17:42.799 -his package developers' guide because you - -0:17:40.640,0:17:44.559 -have a list of all the softwares that - -0:17:42.799,0:17:45.760 -are extremely useful to be using when - -0:17:44.559,0:17:48.000 -you're getting started. - -0:17:45.760,0:17:50.000 -If you're looking into a first - -0:17:48.000,0:17:52.640 -step for how to develop - -0:17:50.000,0:17:53.520 -elast package, i'd really advise you to - -0:17:52.640,0:17:56.559 -look into edebug. - -0:17:53.520,0:17:58.000 -It's one word, edebug, - -0:17:56.559,0:17:58.400 -and you have a section in the manual for this, - -0:17:58.400,0:18:01.919 -because for me, it was the key step to - -0:18:00.799,0:18:04.320 -getting to - -0:18:01.919,0:18:05.679 -develop good packages. It was - -0:18:04.320,0:18:06.160 -understanding basically what the code did - -0:18:06.160,0:18:09.919 -and having us something like a - -0:18:08.960,0:18:11.760 -REPL (read-evaluate-print-loop) - -0:18:09.919,0:18:13.360 -that allows you to step through the code - -0:18:11.760,0:18:13.919 -and see exactly which states the - -0:18:13.360,0:18:16.000 -variables are at which at this point in the - -0:18:16.000,0:18:20.080 -program. That's really my biggest advice - -0:18:18.400,0:18:21.200 -to you - -0:18:20.080,0:18:24.400 -[Music] - -0:18:21.200,0:18:26.160 -Any other question? Thanks. Yeah, I see one - -0:18:24.400,0:18:28.240 -or two more. - -0:18:26.160,0:18:30.080 -So there's one. They ask, "How did the - -0:18:28.240,0:18:33.120 -freedom of Emacs help you on - -0:18:30.080,0:18:36.480 -your way?" - -0:18:33.120,0:18:38.080 -So the freedom of Emacs... I mentioned - -0:18:36.480,0:18:40.320 -that Emacs, for me, was my gateway - -0:18:38.080,0:18:41.360 -into free software and the freedom of - -0:18:40.320,0:18:43.840 -Emacs was that - -0:18:41.360,0:18:44.960 -you could maybe... First and foremost, - -0:18:43.840,0:18:47.840 -compared to - -0:18:44.960,0:18:48.400 -other software, was that you had - -0:18:47.840,0:18:51.039 -behind Emacs, - -0:18:48.400,0:18:52.400 -Elisp, which allows you to read the code, - -0:18:51.039,0:18:53.039 -read whatever is going on in the - -0:18:52.400,0:18:54.640 -background. - -0:18:53.039,0:18:56.160 -Surely, if you go deep enough, you'll - -0:18:54.640,0:18:58.000 -end up on - -0:18:56.160,0:18:59.679 -C functions that you might not be able to - -0:18:58.000,0:19:02.000 -read if you do not have the experience. - -0:18:59.679,0:19:03.520 -But for Org Mode, which was my gateway - -0:19:02.000,0:19:06.400 -into Emacs, - -0:19:03.520,0:19:08.240 -most of it is written in Elisp, and all - -0:19:06.400,0:19:10.080 -the commands have a very verbose - -0:19:08.240,0:19:13.440 -name, like something simple as - -0:19:10.080,0:19:15.840 -org go to next subtree or - -0:19:13.440,0:19:16.880 -org go to a parent subtree. You know, things - -0:19:15.840,0:19:20.240 -like this. - -0:19:16.880,0:19:22.799 -It's so elegant. It's verbose. - -0:19:20.240,0:19:24.320 -That's a sense of freedom - -0:19:22.799,0:19:26.160 -insofar as you can go into the code and - -0:19:24.320,0:19:28.640 -see, oh, okay, that's how it's implemented. - -0:19:26.160,0:19:30.400 -I believe in a way that's the freedom - -0:19:28.640,0:19:31.600 -and the liberty that is given to you to - -0:19:30.400,0:19:33.039 -look into the code - -0:19:31.600,0:19:34.640 -is something that invites you to do the - -0:19:33.039,0:19:35.200 -same with your life. As - -0:19:34.640,0:19:36.559 -someone who - -0:19:35.200,0:19:38.080 -does a little bit of philosophy on the - -0:19:36.559,0:19:38.799 -side, I believe it's a very healthy - -0:19:38.080,0:19:42.320 -message - -0:19:38.799,0:19:45.440 -to be gathering from a piece of software. - -0:19:42.320,0:19:50.720 -(Amin: Awesome, thank you. - -0:19:45.440,0:19:50.720 -Let's see... So we have... - -0:19:50.960,0:19:55.200 -I think I saw another question pop up.) - -0:19:57.200,0:19:59.760 -I'm not sure how we're doing as far - -0:19:58.559,0:20:02.080 -as time is concerned... I believe we - -0:19:59.760,0:20:04.240 -have like one or two minutes more. - -0:20:02.080,0:20:05.679 -(Amin: Yeah, actually, we're quite a bit - -0:20:04.240,0:20:07.840 -ahead of the schedule, so if we take a - -0:20:05.679,0:20:09.440 -little bit longer, we're fine. - -0:20:07.840,0:20:11.280 -If you do have more - -0:20:09.440,0:20:12.880 -questions, please do.) I'm just sorry that - -0:20:11.280,0:20:16.000 -my video is not working anymore. - -0:20:12.880,0:20:17.120 -(Amin: No problem. Someone was - -0:20:16.000,0:20:21.120 -actually saying... - -0:20:17.120,0:20:24.159 -What's the most recent... - -0:20:21.120,0:20:25.919 -Actually, yeah well before that. - -0:20:24.159,0:20:27.440 -"Please show off your three-piece suit - -0:20:25.919,0:20:30.080 -before you end your talk, - -0:20:27.440,0:20:31.919 -which requires fixing your frozen camera. - -0:20:30.080,0:20:34.000 -if this is not possible, please post - -0:20:31.919,0:20:36.240 -suit selfies in an easily accessible - -0:20:34.000,0:20:38.720 -location." - -0:20:36.240,0:20:40.559 -Okay, I'll make sure to do this. But yes, I - -0:20:38.720,0:20:41.200 -wanted to hype things up for the - -0:20:40.559,0:20:43.039 -conference, - -0:20:41.200,0:20:44.400 -so yes I did get the three-piece suit out. - -0:20:43.039,0:20:45.919 -I'm very glad - -0:20:44.400,0:20:47.760 -you like it. By the way when you get - -0:20:45.919,0:20:50.080 -a chance to see me live again, - -0:20:47.760,0:20:51.280 -do appreciate that my tie has both the - -0:20:50.080,0:20:53.679 -colors of Emacs purple - -0:20:51.280,0:20:54.960 -and also Org Mode green. - -0:20:53.679,0:20:55.760 -It took me a while to find this one, so I - -0:20:55.760,0:20:58.880 -hope you will appreciate this. - -0:21:00.840,0:21:06.880 -(Amin: Awesome. Let's see. We have - -0:21:03.679,0:21:08.960 -one other question. "What's the - -0:21:06.880,0:21:10.159 -most recent Emacs package or tool that - -0:21:08.960,0:21:14.480 -you've discovered - -0:21:10.159,0:21:17.600 -that you've added to your repertoire?") - -0:21:14.480,0:21:20.320 -Very interesting question. - -0:21:17.600,0:21:20.799 -The thing is, - -0:21:20.799,0:21:23.919 -when you've spent as long as I have on - -0:21:22.320,0:21:25.120 -Emacs--and I know that I've only spent - -0:21:23.919,0:21:28.799 -eight years and some of you - -0:21:25.120,0:21:30.000 -might have spent maybe 10, 20, maybe even - -0:21:28.799,0:21:32.799 -more years on Emacs-- - -0:21:30.000,0:21:35.120 -but for me, I believe the the coolest - -0:21:32.799,0:21:38.200 -neat trick that I found in Emacs was - -0:21:35.120,0:21:40.080 -a mode which is called beacon-mode. - -0:21:40.080,0:21:43.679 -It's something that allows - -0:21:42.559,0:21:45.120 -you to show - -0:21:43.679,0:21:46.960 -when you're jumping between buffers or - -0:21:45.120,0:21:49.760 -when you're dropping between windows, - -0:21:46.960,0:21:51.520 -it shows exactly where your point is in - -0:21:49.760,0:21:53.840 -that buffer by making - -0:21:51.520,0:21:55.440 -a slight ray of light which looks like a - -0:21:53.840,0:21:57.760 -beacon, hence the name. - -0:21:55.440,0:21:59.520 -It really helps you navigate buffers - -0:21:57.760,0:22:01.760 -because it always shows in a very - -0:21:59.520,0:22:03.520 -visual way where your point is. - -0:22:01.760,0:22:04.640 -I'll get a chance to show this to - -0:22:03.520,0:22:08.720 -you later today - -0:22:04.640,0:22:08.720 -when i'll be presenting my other talks. - -0:22:10.159,0:22:16.880 -(Amin: AWesome. - -0:22:13.840,0:22:20.159 -We have one question - -0:22:16.880,0:22:20.880 -from Jonas, the maintainer - -0:22:20.159,0:22:24.720 -from Magit. - -0:22:20.880,0:22:26.880 -He asks, "When you touched your - -0:22:24.720,0:22:29.600 -webcam, that blew a fuse at my place. - -0:22:26.880,0:22:29.600 -How did you do that?") - -0:22:29.760,0:22:32.960 -Well, I'm very sorry, Jonas, that it - -0:22:31.600,0:22:36.000 -happened to you, but i'll make sure not - -0:22:32.960,0:22:36.000 -to touch my webcam again. - -0:22:36.960,0:22:43.919 -(Amin: Do we have any other questions?) - -0:22:41.600,0:22:45.840 -I have to trust you on this one. - -0:22:43.919,0:22:46.960 -I'm really sorry. Everything is frozen - -0:22:45.840,0:22:48.720 -on my end. - -0:22:46.960,0:22:49.940 -(Amin: No problem. Yeah i'm more talking to the - -0:22:48.720,0:22:51.520 -audience, I guess.) - -0:22:49.940,0:22:55.120 -[Music] - -0:22:51.520,0:22:56.960 -I hope my lack of - -0:22:55.120,0:22:58.159 -slides didn't bother you. I really - -0:22:56.960,0:23:01.039 -wanted to have this - -0:22:58.159,0:23:01.600 -verbose time with people, to be - -0:23:01.039,0:23:04.880 -able to... - -0:23:01.600,0:23:05.280 -it's a message that i've been trying - -0:23:04.880,0:23:06.960 -to share with as many people as possible. - -0:23:08.640,0:23:14.159 -In france we do have an Emacs workshop - -0:23:11.760,0:23:16.000 -that we have on a monthly basis. - -0:23:14.159,0:23:18.960 -I've been learning a lot - -0:23:16.000,0:23:20.400 -with those people and I felt like - -0:23:18.960,0:23:22.480 -doing the same with Emacs conference - -0:23:20.400,0:23:24.000 -would be good. That's why i'm really - -0:23:22.480,0:23:25.120 -happy, and I'm really lucky to have had - -0:23:24.000,0:23:27.919 -the chance to - -0:23:25.120,0:23:29.200 -do this today. I hope some of you - -0:23:27.919,0:23:31.679 -I've convinced you - -0:23:29.200,0:23:34.480 -of climbing up a step on a ladder or - -0:23:31.679,0:23:37.280 -making a step in a journey. - -0:23:34.480,0:23:38.080 -(Amin: Absolutely. Thank you so much, Leo. - -0:23:38.080,0:23:41.279 -I happen to completely agree - -0:23:41.279,0:23:45.600 -with your not necessarily using a slide - -0:23:43.600,0:23:48.480 -when it's not really needed - -0:23:45.600,0:23:49.200 -and to help give some face-to-face time - -0:23:49.200,0:23:53.520 -with the audience. Unfortunately - -0:23:51.840,0:23:55.200 -your webcam cut out, but I mean - -0:23:53.520,0:23:57.279 -before that.) - -0:23:55.200,0:23:59.679 -Yes, I'll make sure to fix the problems - -0:23:57.279,0:24:02.240 -later on, so don't worry about it. - -0:23:59.679,0:24:03.200 -(Amin: Awesome. Alrighty. I guess we're - -0:24:02.240,0:24:06.400 -wrapping up - -0:24:03.200,0:24:08.000 -for your talk and getting ready for the - -0:24:06.400,0:24:10.000 -next talk.) - -0:24:08.000,0:24:11.760 -Sure. Well, thank you so much. I'll see - -0:24:10.000,0:24:16.799 -you all later, I suppose! - -0:24:11.760,0:24:16.799 -(Amin: Sounds good. Thank you again, Leo. Bye-bye) - |