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-* Ongoing projects
- :PROPERTIES:
- :CUSTOM_ID: ongoing-projects
- :END:
-
-- Subtitles/transcripts: sachac, bhavin192
-- FOSSHost: mplsCorwin
-- Calendar, connecting with meetups: sachac
-- Streaming infrastructure for meetups?: bandali, sachac
-- Amin and Gopar's podcast: bandali, gopar
-- mplsCorwin's livestreaming project, working on trimming
-- Writing about Emacs: zaeph
-
-* January 7, 2020 meeting
-
-- Checking in:
- - bandali, zaeph, gopar, sachac, dto
- - bandali: fairly uneventful, things are going okay, learning more about Jami, experimenting with DSLR for webcam but aspect ratio is a little weird
- - sachac: virtual school started again; EmacsNYC meetup; emacs calendar in HTML and Org
- - dto: having fun with neural networks
- - zaeph: at his parents, can't do much work, enjoying the lull; figuring out collaborative slipboxing with org-roam; getting more into writing
- - gopar
-- Agenda:
- - Update: emacslife.com/calendar
- - Update: attended NYC meetup
- - methodology
- - bandali
- - met with organizers of EmacsNYC. They were curious about BBB and Jitsi, streaming, IRC web client
- - met with gopar last night re: podcast
- - will work on a blog post about the technical setup
- - someone wanted to set up a meetup in Mexico, too, so maybe we can make an updated starting-a-meetup guide (https://harryrschwartz.com/2015/09/14/starting-an-emacs-meetup.html)
- - how to find people and advertise
- - reddit.com/r/emacs
- - Emacs News
- - https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Usergroups
- - how to stream and record
- - what it might be like if there are no presentations (don't worry! hang out, share cool stuff, figure things out together, flip through Emacs News)
- - sharing afterwards
- - CRDT: see BBB chat if you want to try it
- - dto:
- - tutorial; (also, SystemCrafters just livestreamed an Emacs Lisp tutorial too)
- - Hmm, it's like having lab hours
- - Could be open (office hours, bring your questions; maybe a liiittle structure) or guided (here's an exercise to start with)
- - podcast
- - Upcoming workshops
- - BBB has breakout rooms, might be worth looking into if it scales up a lot; Jitsi can have multiple people sharing screens at the same time;
- - EmacsNYC said Jitsi is okay for the 20-30 people they've seen so far; EmacsBerlin said the same too (I think they self-host; want to see how they're doing it?). Sounds like it's much better now than it was last year
- - dto will figure it out and write things up =)
- - one-on-one tutorial was nice; finger memory for how to type some of these Lisp expressions
- - it's better to have that interactivity, I think, since there are plenty of lecture-type resources on the Net
- - one-on-one is fine, and then you can scale up (1-on-2, etc.) as you become more comfortable with it and see what can help you scale (ex: having them SSH into a shared server with emacsclients and then being able to quickly flip through their buffers so that you can peek over their shoulder or quickly show something?)
- - gopar: upcoming podcast recording re: EmacsConf experience
- - figuring out name
- - planning to have a little buffer
- - Hey, do you want to blend that into the Emacs Lisp / Emacs tutorial/workshop idea? Whenever you don't have any content, you can teach people a little more
-
- -
- - bhavin192: Mailing list for meetups (some common prefix or something similar).
- - *let's remember to discuss this and the next point* =)
- - bhavin192: Update to Code of Conduct (I was hoping to use the same text or page for Emacs APAC meetup)
- - zaeph: figuring out collaborating via Org Mode
- - per-project pages make sense if you think about it from the web publishing point of view
- - bandali: can be a different wiki if you want
- - zaeph is a little intimidated by the idea of working with the garage door open
- - there is already a private organizer wiki, so we can use that to incubate things if you want to collaboratively work on notes and stuff
- - also totally okay to work on things individually and not collectively if you want, and we don't have to figure out workflows that work for everyone or a name that covers everything; sounding official increases expectations and may cause problems
- -
- - Next:
-
-* January 2, 2020 meeting
- :PROPERTIES:
- :CUSTOM_ID: january-2-2020-meeting
- :END:
-
-- Conversations
- - mplsCorwin: FOSSHost: okay to experiment with being a CDN, will
- experiment with videos
- - authenticated RTMP server to support streaming meetups from Jitsi?
- - PeerTube?
- - sachac: added more events to
- [[https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Usergroups]] and the calendar
- - sachac: subed.el patches for splitting and merging subtitles, will
- continue editing subtitles
- - Podcast:
- - Thinking about name: 
- - Current: emacs.el podcast
- - Emacs Weekly? Probably okay, although includes commitment to
- actually make it weekly
- - Amin and Gopar's Wild World of Emacs?
- - ideas for making it visually interesting when there's no video
- - Suggested guest: Fermin - interesting story about how he got into
- Emacs and started making it better for PHP
- - Making these conversations more public:
- - Maybe start with just putting public meeting minutes somewhere,
- like the wiki, and then figure out if anyone actually wants to
- subscribe to it =)
- - E-mail summary to mailing list?
- - [[https://emacsconf.org/2020/meetings/]] announced on IRC
- #emacsconf
- - With long-form summary at some point?
- - dto volunteering to help Leo (it turns out dto was also an
- English major in his past life, and has done a fair bit of
- copyediting)
- - mplsCorwin can handle social media
- - bandali: avoid perfectionism
- - Lots of people have a hard time with this
- - getting things out of your head = good
- - don't let the great be the enemy of the good. Take advantage
- of the friendly community.
- - dto: story about local trails committee, which is kind of like
- this
- - Look, we can just post a rough outline, whee! =)
- - bullet-points are fine as a starting point
- - Segments of recording? Timer in the pad can help. 
- - Livestream with delay?
- - Something to grow into, maybe; let's start with text and
- possibly recording segments
- - Maybe private part and then public part, with time notes in case
- there are things we need to remove from the recording, keeping
- private segment as short as possible
- - Everyone's cool with this
- - Discussed: Separate days for private and public meeting? Might
- take too much time. 
- - Guidelines for private segments: document reasons if possible
- - Confidentiality
- - Buzz factor: vet ideas before unleashing them? preview?
- - Figuring out the persona/voice/feeling for EmacsConf, for the
- meeting
- - Hard to figure out how to communicate both excitement and
- reserve
- - Diversity and perspective: we're trying to figure out how this
- comes across from the outside, without our own knowledge
- - sachac: We could try to just dump the outline for starters, and
- can come up with quick automation for transforming the Etherpad
- =)
- - Is it because we're trying to figure out the official voice for
- EmacsConf? Is it easier to talk as individuals?
- - Sticker giveaway: mplsCorwin
-- Next week, 3PM UTC Saturday, Leo to send calendar invite and/or e-mail:
- - Leo will write a summary of what we've been doing and put it in the
- pad, for e-mailing out?
- - Braindumps welcome =)
- - Week after: public meeting/recording