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diff --git a/2020/info/06.md b/2020/info/06.md index b9cc0a27..98be1573 100644 --- a/2020/info/06.md +++ b/2020/info/06.md @@ -1,16 +1,15 @@ # Trivial Emacs Kits Corwin Brust -[[!template id=vid src="https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/emacsconf/2020/emacsconf-2020--06-trivial-emacs-kits--corwin-brust.webm" size="114M" duration="13:41" subtitles="/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--06-trivial-emacs-kits--corwin-brust.vtt"]] -[Download compressed .webm video (12M)](https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/emacsconf/2020/smaller/emacsconf-2020--06-trivial-emacs-kits--corwin-brust--vp9-q56-video-original-audio.webm) +[[!template id=vid vidid="mainVideo" src="https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/emacsconf/2020/emacsconf-2020--06-trivial-emacs-kits--corwin-brust.webm" size="114M" duration="13:41" subtitles="/2020/subtitles/emacsconf-2020--06-trivial-emacs-kits--corwin-brust.vtt"]] +[Download compressed .webm video (12M)](https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/emacsconf/2020/smaller/emacsconf-2020--06-trivial-emacs-kits--corwin-brust--vp9-q56-video-original-audio.webm) +[View transcript](#transcript) Techniques to help new users bootstrap a more gentle introduction to Emacs, one (short) init.el file at a time. [[!inline pages="internal(2020/info/dm-notes)" raw="yes"]] -[[!inline pages="internal(2020/info/06-transcription)" raw="yes"]] - <!-- from the pad ---> - Actual start and end time (EST): Start: 2020-11-28T10.45.48; Q&A @@ -56,184 +55,240 @@ important problem space in free software, FWIW. <a name="transcript"></a> # Transcript -Following is a somewhat hasty self-transcription of my talk. Please -don't hesitate to [mailto:corwin@bru.st](ask for clarification) or to -add any clarifications you feel helpful back into the EmacsConf wiki. - There is a visual gimmick underlaying the initial remarks. We are looking at the first (first-slide ("Welcome") showing how the org markdown looks on other editors, including cygwin emacs, Notepad++, Sublime, VS Code, and cygwin vim. As each is closed we see the next, until we reveal GUI Emacs running org-mode in a full-both frame. -My name is Corwin Brust and I will be talking about getting started -with Emacs Today. I have been an Emacs user for a long time- - -First of all thanks and a huge welcome to the conference..(_15s_) - -On behalf of and back to the other organizers. It has been cool to -have a peek backstage. - -So. I've used a lot of different editors in my time. That's about 25 -years as a professional software engineer. And most of that -time I've been using Emacs. (~54s_) - -I'll talk a little bit in a minute (if I can ever find my slides) -about how I got into Emacs, but if you've used Emacs and a lot of -other editors for a long time, something that you notice right away is -that you get good with it in a way that stays meaningful. You learn -new things, those things stick with you. You learn how to- how to -make it do new tricks and then keep doing those tricks. (~1m26s_) - -I want to mention this conference isn't about (whoops: "this talk") -how to adjust your configuration specifically. I don't have a bunch -of good code samples in here. There are a bunch of other great talks, -especially Andrew's that I think may be aimed more at that "hey, I'm -just getting started with Emacs what are some things to try to make it -more comfortable for me starting?" [subject/audience? cezb]. (~2m07s_) - -This is about how to think about the problem space more. (_2m10s_) - -Hopefully a good way to warm up as we start thinking about some of the -lightning talks later on. (I'm going to bring up my IRC buffer -[offscreen] in case I run into time- I didn't get my stopwatch started -for this one.) (_2m25s_) - -So, alright: let's dive in. (_2m30s_) - -We assume that we want to install packages, and maybe configure some -features. This is particularly from the perspective of where we're -working with a bunch of others on a team and we want to get something -done. (_2m42s_) - -Some of us probably have mature Emacs workflows, others may be -installing it for the first time. (_2m50s_) - -So the first questions is, you know- in that context: what's the value -proposition? Why should I mess with my machine, my mature Emacs -configuration, impose my way of thinking and ideas over the way -somebody else is learning Emacs? (_3m09m_) - -It can be [laugh] I'm off my slides here a little bit.. (_3m13s_) - -It can be a little tricky to learn Emacs. One thing that helps us a -lot is if people that we are working with can tell us, kinda, -keystroke-for-keystroke at times what to do and explain what -everything is doing. (_3m30s_) - -And using the same packages as others can really help us working -together on a project. (_3m36s_) - -Speaking from my personal experience, it took me decades to get to the -point where I was excited to program in Emacs Lisp. (_3m26s_) - -I've programed in a lot of programming languages, but Lisp wasn't on -my list. I looked at my config, that I was copy-pasting around from -generation after generation of .emacs file or re-crafting it by hand -and from Internet searches, to get things that I needed when I would -quickly go install Emacs to start some new job or contract, and -quickly get though that work-flow that caused me to go install the -program. (_4m15s_) - -You know, just simple little one-liners that got committed to memory -over decades eventually just lead [me] to a sort of "hey, what's going -on here". (_4m27s_) - -And I credit my good friend Jeff Goff who died earlier in 2020 for my -lifelong love of Emacs. Perhaps Erik and I will talk a little more -about that at another talk we have scheduled but Jeff was a huge -influence on us in a number of ways and a huge contributer to the Raku -programming language which is very cool. (_4m52s_) - -So, understanding how to make a good decision about splitting up -configuration in a way to share it with people with really different -uses of Emacs. That's actually a complicated topic, and I want to off -and stare at it for a second: (_5m11s_) - -I think Emacs is about people, so that means it is about community. -And community means we're going to invite disagreement. In fact that -disagreement isn't necessarily a road-block to our project, in fact -that some of the work our project can invite us to do is to get closer -to each other by inviting those disagreements, by learning from people -of different styles, and from how they argue, and thinking about why -they have that perspective and what technical benefits that perhaps -radical point of view might carry away. Some people are really -aggressive arguers others are very passive and really couch their -ideas in distancing terms, "well probably this is a good idea" or -"please double check me". Those don't always indicate how certain a -person is. Because we're different. We have different ways of -communicating ideas such as certainty or excitement. (_6m23s_) - -When we thinking about a bunch of really diverse programmers -approaching Emacs probably one of our first really big challenges is -just to pick what we're going to go after. There are a number of -existing kit installs and things like this. My argument is that you -can get pretty far just trading files around. And maybe the more -value conversation to have is making the hard decisions, e.g. "should -we have vertical completion", should that be out of the box and those -that want the traditional splayed-out over a sing line such as the -mode line will have to add a line to their configuration. (_7m26s) - -The way to get there? - -How do we find out what works? - -We don't want to slow down the people who are super productive with -Emacs, and ask them to completely break their workflows to make it -easier for new folks, at the same time we do want to make sure those -new people. (_7m42s_) - -At the same time, we do want to make sure those new people arre -excited by Emacs and not turned off by having to learn the entire -jungle of Emacs history in the form of it's unique technical stylings -in terms of frames, buffers, and other unique Emacs viewpoints on -interface concepts, especially. (_8m15s_) - -The encouragement here is to keep using the project team as a -crucible. Rather than following the defaults of, um, finding the -simplest customizations that generally work, what if we tried to look -for fairly specific configuration that we'll expect basically all of -our developers to be using, at least when the submit bug -reports. (_8m48s_) - -In particular with this, I think that degree of experimentation can -drive back into the Emacs development process. In the development -mailing list.. [] In the context of Emacs development as a greater -entity, we see this struggle. We have the sense that some things can -"never" be change. I think one thing that can help us get there is -evidence that says "hey, my 30-40 person team is using this set of -bindings and here is what we learned about new Emacs users coming in -and trying that". (10m) - -So let's just recap real quick: in theory Emacs works out of the -box. That means we are free to throw it all away and start over. -[trouble with slides, again] - -Our goal is to enable users- to unlock our computers, to do as much -with them as possible. My work of encouragement is experiment with it. -And think really specifically about how the development users may be -different from each other, as you are configuring the development -environment of emacs for developing on a project. - -That's my talk, etc, answer any questions.(_12m09s_) - -Do you use Emacs as a Community Building Tool? (_13m15s_) - -Do /i/ use Emacs a community building tool? Or *how* do I use Emacs as a -community building tool. [amin: "it doesn't say"] - -Yes, absolutely. I think Emacs is an ambassador to the gnu -tool-chain. in the fullness of time we will see an Emacs that will -make others, Android and iOS, dream. That's why that mock us and say -that Emacs is an operating system. It's because it could be, if cared -for it to be. It's quite a threatening product in terms of the number -of problem spaces it can address, how many types of users it can -satisfy. (_13m01s_) - -And the things that we can do to make it robust in those environments. -We're always thinking about the weak points but is Emacs a community -building tool? Heck yeah. (_13m13s_) - -[we agree that I'll write my answers to the remaining questions, I say -thanks more, and we're done. ps, I'll get to your question or -comments I can find a response to within the next week, I expect] +[[!template new="1" text="My name is Corwin Brust" start="00:00:00.399" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and I will be talking about getting started with Emacs today." start="00:00:02.683" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I have been an Emacs user for a long time." start="00:00:08.960" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="First of all, thanks and a huge welcome to the conference" start="00:00:11.448" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="from me and and on behalf" start="00:00:15.360" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and back to the other people" start="00:00:22.400" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="that have been helping to organize." start="00:00:24.368" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="It's been amazing just to be involved" start="00:00:26.080" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="with that and just, kind of, see backstage." start="00:00:30.480" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="I've used a lot of different editors in my time." start="00:00:36.399" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="That's about 25 years as a professional software engineer." start="00:00:42.281" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="And most of that time I've been using Emacs." start="00:00:52.399" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="I'll talk a little bit in a minute" start="00:00:54.247" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="(if I can ever find my slides)" start="00:00:56.160" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="about how I got into Emacs," start="00:01:00.960" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="but I think if you've used Emacs and a" start="00:01:04.479" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="lot of other editors for a long time," start="00:01:07.200" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="something that you notice right away" start="00:01:10.240" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="is that you get good with it in a way that stays meaningful." start="00:01:14.410" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="You learn new things. 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going to add a line of config to their own setup?" start="00:07:19.428" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="The way to get there?" start="00:07:29.039" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I mean, how do we find out what works?" start="00:07:30.979" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="We don't want to slow down the people that are super productive with Emacs" start="00:07:33.344" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="by asking them to completely break their workflows" start="00:07:38.587" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and make it easier for new folks." start="00:07:40.879" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="At the same time, we do want to make sure those new people" start="00:07:42.560" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="are excited by Emacs and not turned off by having to learn" start="00:07:48.673" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="the entire jungle of Emacs history in the form of its unique" start="00:07:52.720" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="technical stylings for things like frames, buffers," start="00:08:00.363" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and other unique Emacs viewpoints" start="00:08:07.610" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="on important interface concepts, especially." start="00:08:11.668" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="The encouragement here is to keep" start="00:08:16.240" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="the initialization for a project team" start="00:08:19.520" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="together as a crucible." start="00:08:21.680" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Rather than necessarily following" start="00:08:23.280" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="our defaults of finding the simplest configurations" start="00:08:25.117" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="that generally work and letting people customize it," start="00:08:33.279" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="what if we tried to look" start="00:08:37.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="for fairly specific configurations" start="00:08:40.479" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="that we'll expect essentially all of our" start="00:08:42.346" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="developers to be using," start="00:08:44.159" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="at least when they submit bug reports." start="00:08:46.320" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="In particular, with this," start="00:08:52.839" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I think that degree of experimentation" start="00:08:55.920" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="can drive back into the Emacs development process." start="00:08:59.839" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="In the development mailing list..." start="00:09:02.584" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I'm hoping I'll get a timing cue here." start="00:09:04.800" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="In the context of Emacs development as a greater entity," start="00:09:15.120" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="we see some of these struggles." start="00:09:18.835" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Should we change this default?" start="00:09:20.959" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Sometimes we can have the sense that defaults in Emacs will never change." start="00:09:22.399" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="The conversation is too difficult." start="00:09:27.146" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I think one thing that can help us get there is evidence" start="00:09:29.279" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="that says, "hey my 30- to 40-person project" start="00:09:32.560" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="is using this set of bindings," start="00:09:36.160" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and here's what we learned" start="00:09:38.560" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="about brand new Emacs users trying to come in" start="00:09:40.111" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and get work done with that."" start="00:09:42.240" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="(Amin: Yeah you still have" start="00:09:46.800" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="a couple more minutes.)" start="00:09:49.360" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Oh, beautiful. Okay, great." start="00:09:50.720" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I will try to get through my last few slides that I cut" start="00:09:51.984" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="in my last walkthrough, but I think I'm" start="00:09:54.720" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="going quicker today, thank you." start="00:09:56.320" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Thank you." start="00:09:58.320" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="So let's just recap real quick:" start="00:10:02.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="in theory, Emacs works out of the box." start="00:10:05.120" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="That means we're free to experiment." start="00:10:08.760" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="We can throw it all away and start over." start="00:10:12.853" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="As an organizational principle..." start="00:10:17.120" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I don't know what I was thinking on that slide, excuse me." start="00:10:26.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="Bringing it back around to the free" start="00:10:30.079" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and open source software community," start="00:10:33.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="our goal is to enable users" start="00:10:35.680" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="to unlock their computers, to do as much" start="00:10:39.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="with them as possible." start="00:10:41.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="That's the context to take with project initialization, but sometimes" start="00:10:43.040" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="it could make sense" start="00:10:47.680" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="to put some gloves on." start="00:10:50.800" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I've thrown up on the screen here" start="00:10:52.032" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="just a couple of other ideas," start="00:10:53.766" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="ways to maybe think outside of the box." start="00:10:55.276" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="As you're putting together project nets," start="00:10:57.920" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="my words of encouragement are to experiment with it," start="00:11:01.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="try different things, and think really specifically" start="00:11:05.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="about how different the development users might be from each other" start="00:11:09.941" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="as you define standards for configuring" start="00:11:17.010" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="the user environment of Emacs" start="00:11:21.680" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="specifically for developing on a project." start="00:11:23.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="That's pretty much my talk." start="00:11:26.552" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="If there's any time, I would take a couple questions." start="00:11:29.120" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="(Amin: Thank you for your awesome talk, Corwin." start="00:11:32.959" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I think we have one or two minutes for a few questions." start="00:11:36.480" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Do you have the pad open or would you" start="00:11:49.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="like me to read the questions for you?)" start="00:11:52.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Corwin: Oh, I managed to close the pad" start="00:11:53.839" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="and I am trying to open it again." start="00:11:58.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="All right, there it opened." start="00:12:00.352" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Bringing it onto a screen where I can see it." start="00:12:03.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Will you read me the first question while I drag windows around, please?" start="00:12:05.500" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="(Amin: Sure. It says, "do you use Emacs as a community building tool?")" start="00:12:09.360" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Do I use Emacs as a community building tool, or how do I?" start="00:12:15.600" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="(Amin: It just says do you.) Yes, absolutely." start="00:12:19.760" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I think Emacs is an ambassador to the GNU tool chain." start="00:12:23.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I think that in the fullness of time," start="00:12:29.920" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="we will see an Emacs" start="00:12:33.027" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="that makes iOS and Android and other closed-source tools dream." start="00:12:36.558" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="That's why they mock us and call Emacs" start="00:12:43.760" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="an operating system. It's because" start="00:12:46.689" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="it could be, if we cared for it to be." start="00:12:49.200" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="It's quite a threatening product" start="00:12:51.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="from the perspective of how many problem" start="00:12:55.680" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="spaces it can address," start="00:12:57.440" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="how many types of users it can satisfy," start="00:12:58.540" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="the things that we can do to make" start="00:13:01.519" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="it robust in those environments." start="00:13:04.399" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I mean, we're always thinking about the weak points," start="00:13:06.456" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="but is Emacs a community building tool? Heck yeah." start="00:13:09.524" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template new="1" text="(Amin: There's like one or two more questions." start="00:13:14.639" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I think they're more long-form so it might be better" start="00:13:18.480" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="if you took them off stream so you could keep the schedule on time.)" start="00:13:22.480" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I would love to take those questions offline." start="00:13:26.880" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I will respond to you" start="00:13:29.463" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="in writing if we don't get to it" start="00:13:30.908" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="in a breakout room." start="00:13:32.237" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="Thanks so much for joining us." start="00:13:33.360" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="I can't wait to see the rest of the" start="00:13:35.451" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="conference. See you there!" start="00:13:36.639" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] +[[!template text="(Amin: Awesome. Thank you again so much, Corwin.)" start="00:13:38.000" video="mainVideo" id=subtitle]] |