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 [Speaker 0]: So, will you, when I'm looking at my,
 
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 the other screen, I don't see the chat,
 
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 so maybe someone can tell me.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: It's fine, don't worry about it,
 
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 and we are live. So hi again everyone.
 
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 Hi Tony, how are you doing?
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Really well, and you?
 
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 [Speaker 1]: I am doing fantastically,
 
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 as fantastically as I can be doing,
 
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 having to put out fire in the background
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Cool!
 
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 [Speaker 1]: during MaxConf. But I'm doing great! Alright,
 
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 Let me just try to set up everything so that
 
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 I can show the questions and all this.
 
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 Do you mind if I read you the question?
 
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 It might be a little more interactive and
 
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 this way you can focus on either presenting
 
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 stuff on your end.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Yes, tell me what are the questions and what
 
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 to do and I will do that.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Okay great so what I'll do,
 
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 I'll invite people to go to the pad and ask
 
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 questions because it was a very interesting
 
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 talk and I'm sure you have plenty of
 
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 questions but I only see 1 right now.
 
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 Do we have people on BigBlueButton?
 
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 Yes we do have people joining right now.
 
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 So reading the first question then.
 
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 So what's the main motivation for this new
 
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 package? I used to use org.yugo
 
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 and use GitHub Actions to build a blog.
 
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 So can you go in a little bit of details on
 
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 this?
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Yes, OK. So the main goal,
 
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 I didn't want to have,
 
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 to, I will push that here.
 
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 So my goal was to not have to rely on another
 
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 static site generator to produce my website.
 
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 So if you use a Yugo, that means that you
 
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 take, so this is the website that we've seen
 
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 in the talk, this 1. And I didn't want to
 
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 have to use a piece of software in Emacs that
 
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 translate to some other files to be feed to
 
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 another statistic generator because this way
 
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 I have 2 things to understand.
 
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 I have to understand how that software
 
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 translates my files into the other files and
 
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 then I have to understand how Hugo works.
 
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 So if I want to change something I need to
 
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 understand Hugo. So at some point I need to
 
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 work with Hugo. So if I need to work with
 
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 Hugo, maybe I can work with it directly.
 
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 And I wanted also something that was purely
 
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 Emacs-centric and working on it,
 
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 I found out about that solution.
 
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 And I wanted also something that we have only
 
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 1 file that have all the entries.
 
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 And when I thought about that,
 
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 finally I found a way that maybe we can just
 
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 use 1 or 3 to pass it the information of the
 
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 website. And if you look,
 
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 If you just try to work with Gatsby,
 
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 Ugo or all those websites,
 
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 when you start, you download 10,
 
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 20, 30, thousand for hundreds of dependencies
 
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 to do. Just to me, I'm a small guy and I just
 
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 want to have some documentation on the
 
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 website like this 1. It just,
 
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 it shouldn't need that much of a dependency.
 
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 And if you look at the website,
 
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 if you want to hack on something,
 
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 you need a lot of to understand how the
 
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 config files work. So you need to,
 
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 how does it work this config file?
 
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 But I want, it's always happened that you
 
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 want to add 1 thing or to add that things.
 
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 What do you have to do?
 
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 You have to, you can't because it's not
 
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 offered by the configuration file.
 
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 With that solution that I built for me first,
 
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 I don't care if I need something else.
 
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 I just have to go in that file.
 
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 It doesn't need to be that file because as I
 
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 am in Emacs if the render functions are
 
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 already evaluated they exist and I can use it
 
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 but I just have to change that file so if I
 
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 want something more I just I go there let's
 
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 say so does it answer the question or I
 
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 continue to show something?
 
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 [Speaker 1]: It's up to you, I think you are answering the
 
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 question. I think you veered off a little bit
 
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 from just why not you go but then you kind of
 
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 redid part of your presentation to justify
 
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 [Speaker 0]: own system. But stop me if I go because I
 
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 used to want to show more things than what
 
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 [Speaker 1]: why you had to roll your Yeah that's fine.
 
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 Just for people who do not know,
 
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 we tend to restrict speakers when they submit
 
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 a presentation. We tell them,
 
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 oh, you can do a flash talk in 10 minutes or
 
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 a bit of a longer talk in 20 minutes or 40
 
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 minutes. And usually, because we have a lot
 
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 of speakers, we have to kind of coerce people
 
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 into going to shorter formats and sometimes
 
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 it's a lot about killing your darlings.
 
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 But just to reassure you,
 
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 we're just about to go on a launch break in
 
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 about 10 minutes, so you've got the full 10
 
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 minutes to use however you want,
 
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 but I'll just tell you,
 
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 you have a lot of questions so you might want
 
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 to perhaps move on to the next 1 as soon as
 
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 you can.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Yes okay so tell me the next 1 and if people
 
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 want to stay more I can also stay more.
 
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 Right. I understand if people need to go to
 
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 lunch, they can, but people that want to
 
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 stay, if it's possible,
 
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 I'm here to answer any question.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Splendid. All right, so moving on to the next
 
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 question. Is it possible to include the
 
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 include org tag to add content from other
 
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 files. Do you see what I'm talking about?
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Yes, so it's not included.
 
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 So the idea was really to have only 1 file
 
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 and have no options. So if you look at the,
 
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 let's go into, so the answer is no,
 
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 but if you want, you can write the code that
 
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 do it. But let's just go into one.n,
 
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 so that files. So this is the files where you
 
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 have everything, and there is only 2
 
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 dependencies. Maybe we can see that at the
 
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 top so which are htmlis on the Jack and the
 
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 other are Augment. So for me,
 
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 they're not dependencies because they come
 
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 with Emacs. But the question is,
 
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 can I add other things?
 
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 If you look at that, you don't see the orange
 
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 color which are viable,
 
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 it's because I didn't want any configuration
 
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 nor option. So there is no,
 
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 if you think about, you are used to use org
 
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 export normally and to use all the options
 
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 that are possible on all the things they are
 
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 not included. You can add them because when
 
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 you are in a render function.
 
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 So this is the render function that I showed
 
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 in the theme. You have a page tree so you
 
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 have the information but in the global I
 
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 think, yes in global, you can pass anything
 
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 you want and if you want you can pass the
 
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 parse tree of the whole file.
 
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 So if you pass the parse tree of the whole
 
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 file, what you can do is that you can get it
 
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 there. So I don't have it right now,
 
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 but you might have your include stuff and you
 
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 get it with a node property that target
 
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 something in the global variable.
 
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 So if we look just to be short but those 3
 
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 parts, the first 1 is page tree.
 
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 So it's this page that you are on the right,
 
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 pages are a list of all the pages and global
 
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 is something that you can set and reset once
 
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 and you have the whole part street.
 
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 So anything that you add in your op-files
 
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 could go in global if you want,
 
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 but it's not included.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: All right. I think that's also answering the
 
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 question. Can this generate a single file
 
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 from different sources like blog.org,
 
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 videos.org? I think you've just answered
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Yes, I think yes.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: this, right? Right. Okay.
 
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 So moving on to the other question.
 
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 Do you have pre-made templates already along
 
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 with the 1.el package?
 
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 [Speaker 0]: So, yes and no. So, The answer is if we go to
 
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 1.n, so this file, so the first are blah,
 
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 blah, blah. How it works,
 
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 so, okay, so you have the 1-hocs,
 
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 which is what can translate the org parse
 
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 tree into HTML. So this is for the content of
 
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 each page. So this is very useful.
 
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 Then we have a bunch of functions that help
 
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 to render the function,
 
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 each page. And you have a bunch of...
 
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 Everything that starts with dash default is a
 
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 render function. So there's no template,
 
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 but each page that if you want,
 
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 so that 1, the home, you can use 1 default
 
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 home. So, if you want to list the page,
 
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 you have that 1. For a page with no table of
 
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 content, you use that thing.
 
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 And if you go back to be short,
 
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 if we go there, I put this like that.
 
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 So this that we see here is the first inline
 
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 of 1.org. By the way, it doesn't have to be
 
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 called 1.org. It's just as you want,
 
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 but maybe we can call it.
 
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 So default, what was the other 1?
 
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 Default with sidebar. Or is it default with
 
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 sidebar or default? Yes,
 
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 with sidebar. Sidebar,
 
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 if it's worked correctly.
 
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 Okay, so, okay, so I don't know why the CSS
 
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 is not working correctly.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: It's okay. It wouldn't be a live demo without
 
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 problems occurring at some point.
 
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 Okay.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: But so maybe we can use this 1.
 
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 Or we stuck. So we are going to use this 1,
 
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 we've talked this 1, but maybe better in this
 
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 1 that add something. So we build it again
 
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 and now, oh, come on. We have it and we have
 
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 the, sorry, if we have just default,
 
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 we rebuild and now this is the default layer
 
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 that if we do with table of content,
 
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 you have it, you have the default content.
 
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 So how to change, and they are not template.
 
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 They are render functions that takes your
 
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 page as a tree and render HTML string.
 
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 So you can build any function that you want.
 
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 So yes, I think that answers the question.
 
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 There is no template like in other systems.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Cool, that makes sense.
 
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 We have 2 more questions and then we'll need
 
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 to go on a lunch break.
 
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 I don't see anyone join the room.
 
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 Remember, Tony has said that he would be
 
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 willing to answer more questions during the
 
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 lunch break, perhaps because it's not lunch
 
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 break for you. Are you in Europe right now?
 
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 So that's why for us, also for me it's very
 
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 dark, but it's not lunch break for us,
 
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 it's going to be dinner break soon actually.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Yes. Yes, exactly, so I'm just,
 
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 I'm okay.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Right, Okay, so moving on to 1 of the last 2
 
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 questions. What additional features are there
 
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 that you would like to add to 1.EL
 
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 in the future?
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Yes, there's only 1, which is a full text
 
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 search done in a simple way.
 
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 So I don't meet what simple way means,
 
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 but when I see something complicated,
 
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 it doesn't enter in 1 to me.
 
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 So, but really, if you see that,
 
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 I would like to have some way.
 
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 So, this is the documentation and I would
 
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 like to have some way to just have another
 
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 function because we are not talking about
 
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 those websites on the 1.L.
 
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 It's not made for a big company or of your
 
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 things, it's just for a random guy that have
 
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 a blog or a few blogs and If you are a great
 
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 blogger, maybe you are going to write 100 or
 
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 200 or 300 pages in many years.
 
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 So this enter in that category.
 
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 So it's small. So I think it can,
 
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 we could find a way to make a full text
 
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 search. And that is simple.
 
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 I don't need to, to go with,
 
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 with solution like Algolia that is,
 
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 that works super fine.
 
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 But this is something that I don't control
 
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 and I have to give them the data and I'm not
 
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 against that but it's just that I think with
 
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 a bit of work something can be done with full
 
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 textile. But this is the only thing that I
 
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 would like to add.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Very clear answer. Next question.
 
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 Can you create navbars on a website and fancy
 
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 things like carousels using 1.EL?
 
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 Now carousels is just,
 
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 I think, a fancy way to display pictures and
 
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 please correct me whoever asked this
 
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 question. Otherwise I see you taking notes
 
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 for the answers, thank you very much.
 
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 But if you could specify maybe carousels so
 
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 that Tony and I may get a better idea.
 
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 But still, first part of the question,
 
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 can you create navbars on a website?
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Yes. So if, for instance,
 
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 you see there, to me, it's not a,
 
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 it's a navbar. So you already have it.
 
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 I didn't show that in the talk,
 
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 but the CSS for the default function that
 
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 works is responsive. So,
 
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 out of the box, if you are using something,
 
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 you will have an app bar done for you with
 
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 all the pages that you have.
 
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 So, if we go to install,
 
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 we have that. And if we no longer have that,
 
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 we have that sidebar there.
 
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 And how it's done. So,
 
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 the same way. I like simple fields that are
 
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 flexible and I didn't want configuration
 
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 because if you want to write the code to
 
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 change something you just have to write code.
 
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 So any function, render function,
 
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 is yours. So you can do whatever you want and
 
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 you enter the html that you want to render.
 
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 So let's see how do we get that navigation
 
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 bar that we have when we do that this is a
 
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 CSS stuff. But when we click,
 
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 this is a JS stuff that,
 
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 so let's go to one.l And maybe this is a
 
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 sidebar. Why that function because,
 
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 okay. So when that function,
 
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 so 1 default sidebar is 1 that is used to do
 
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 some of the things at some point,
 
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 what we return is a JackHTML that take a data
 
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 structure and return a string.
 
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 So this is your HTML. So you can see at the
 
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 top you have the end, then you have the body,
 
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 and if we go at the end we can add a script
 
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 thing. So what we've seen with the sidebar
 
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 it's just that much line of JavaScript.
 
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 So this is the only JavaScript that there is
 
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 to get what we have here when we do that.
 
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 So you can add whatever you want.
 
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 It's code and you're the master of that code.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Splendid, great. So to specify the carousel
 
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 stuff that we mentioned before,
 
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 it's pictures rolling or sliding from 1 to
 
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 the other. It's kind of like having a
 
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 gallery, imagine a fancy dynamic gallery
 
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 where you can scroll pictures.
 
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 Do you see what I'm talking about?
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Yes, so that things would just be I think
 
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 some javascript added somewhere and I can
 
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 show you another website.
 
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 So for instance if we go because there are
 
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 not all the data of the website are not all
 
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 public, but the website they are.
 
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 So for instance, a mini-buffer,
 
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 it's not a carousel, but at the home page,
 
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 we can do whatever we want.
 
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 Still those pages, still,
 
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 this is only 1 file for each page.
 
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 So if we click, we can get those things.
 
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 It's just that when we,
 
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 for the home page for instance,
 
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 when we go back on that home page,
 
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 we have the list at that point.
 
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 So let's go back to that function that we're,
 
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 so not that 1, maybe the 1,
 
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 1 different, it's better because that 1 is
 
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 simpler. So almost nothing happened.
 
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 We have the list of the pages.
 
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 So I can do whatever I want with that list.
 
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 I can loop over and we can see that 1,
 
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 that default home list of pages,
 
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 so that list of the pages,
 
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 and we see where is the list.
 
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 Okay, so this is a, here we have a function
 
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 that just, we want the pages,
 
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 but I think we, but the home page,
 
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 and we have that list,
 
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 and then here we do that.
 
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 And we get something listed,
 
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 But then as you control everything that you
 
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 do, you can pass any CSS class that you want
 
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 to do those things. So,
 
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 for instance, that div,
 
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 add the class either. Yes,
 
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 you can do. I don't remember the question,
 
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 but I think I was answering the right 1.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: No, no, you were answering it.
 
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 It was about carousels and about having fancy
 
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 display for image galleries.
 
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 And I think you've answered.
 
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 Basically, you just put your JavaScript,
 
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 you embed it inside the code.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Exactly.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: So, other question. Would there be an
 
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 automated way to convert an existing HTML
 
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 document into a JackHTML form?
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Okay, so that 1, I don't have 1.
 
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 It's another topic, but maybe there are some
 
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 kind of session because some people that
 
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 know, that are used to Lisp,
 
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 common Lisp or Clojure or other,
 
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 Jack-html, that function,
 
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 is something classic, but I didn't find,
 
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 So I wrote it because I didn't find it
 
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 already done the way I want for Emacs.
 
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 And this is something for E-cup closure.
 
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 So really I take, it's not that I take my
 
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 impression, just that when you have something
 
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 that exists and you look at how it's done.
 
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 So you have a eCup for Crusher,
 
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 does the same thing that HTML.
 
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 It's more that I do a Jack HTML do what eCup
 
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 does, but maybe they do it a better way.
 
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 So I think maybe in that community,
 
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 it might already exist something that go from
 
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 HTML to Jack. So you can see,
 
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 is it big enough? I will make it big enough.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: It's good enough, don't worry.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: So if you see- So you have the hash HTML and
 
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 you see those things. There are things that I
 
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 couldn't do, for instance,
 
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 for the ID, I couldn't use the hash in the
 
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 name of, of how do we name that,
 
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 of the keywords, because it's used for
 
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 something else in a Emacs Lisp.
 
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 So, I use... Anyway, so you see that you have
 
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 that things but in Emacs we don't have the
 
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 map with that syntax. We have a hash map but
 
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 they are not with that syntax and I wanted
 
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 that syntax so we use only list and Here we
 
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 have an array with a hash map.
 
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 So let me just say, so the question was,
 
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 does it exist something?
 
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 I think not, but it could be built or maybe
 
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 exist for E-Cups, you are interested.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Okay, great. I think that answers the
 
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 question perfectly. And our final question,
 
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 does this or you use any other Emacs packages
 
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 for your packages slash website,
 
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 example, or publish? Like,
 
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 rephrasing the question,
 
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 do you use it for your own personal usage or
 
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 do you interact with other packages?
 
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 [Speaker 0]: I'm not sure I understand the question.
 
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 Can you please repeat the question?
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Yes, I will reread it as it is written and I
 
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 will leave you interpret it however you want.
 
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 Thank you. Does this or you use any other
 
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 Emacs packages for your package slash website
 
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 like org-publish?
 
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 [Speaker 0]: No, no, no. I don't use nothing.
 
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 I just accept dependency of 1.n.
 
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 So, we are in 1.n and we go at the top and we
 
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 see that those are the dependencies.
 
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 I use nothing. So what I do is that I
 
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 publish, I just generate the public
 
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 directory. So if we go to public,
 
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 this 1, no, I don't want this 1.
 
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 I want to go to the website of the video.
 
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 If we see here, everything is rendered in the
 
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 public. Any services, if you use your own
 
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 server and you save those files,
 
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 you have your website.
 
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 So I don't use anything else.
 
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 I just git push and I'm using Netlify as a
 
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 service to run to save my files,
 
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 but you can use anything you want.
 
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 Because your website is really what is into a
 
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 public. So, this is another,
 
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 It's not the concern of 1.L
 
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 to answer. I'm not using org.publish.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Cool, great. Well, thank you.
 
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 I think the question was also about other
 
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 things, but I think If the person wants a
 
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 more clear answer to their question,
 
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 feel free to clarify the question and Tony
 
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 might be able to answer it later on.
 
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 Alright Tony, I think that's all the
 
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 questions we had. Thank you so much for
 
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 taking the time not only to present Adimax
 
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 Kant, but also for answering all the
 
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 questions people had.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Thank you to everybody participating,
 
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 organizing and thank you for all those
 
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 questions and you can send me any emails if
 
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 you have a question and open the issues if
 
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 it's not working the way it should work for
 
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 you. Please send me those things.
 
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 Thank you, everybody.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Splendid, thank you. And before,
 
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 so right now we're gonna go on a lunch break.
 
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 We'll be back in about 40 minutes for the
 
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 talk called Emacs Turbocharges My Writing.
 
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 And I will not tell you more.
 
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 You can look at the talk page to see a little
 
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 bit of a synopsis but otherwise keep the
 
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 surprise. So have a good lunch or have a good
 
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 dinner if you are in dinner-friendly times
 
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 and I will see you afterwards.
 
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 Thank you again, Tony.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: See you.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: All right. Let me just close everything.
 
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 All right, got it. OK,
 
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 so thank you so much, Tony.
 
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 I just had to clear everything up on the
 
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 stream. I'm going to need to...
 
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 Sorry. I'm going to stop.
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 [Speaker 0]: Again, second only live Q&A of the day.
 
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 So, things are still a bit rusty,
 
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 but believe me, by the end of the morning,
 
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 we will be well-oiled machinery.
 
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 So, hi Marcus, how are you doing?
 
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 [Speaker 1]: I'm fine, Thank you.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: I really liked, most people might have
 
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 forgotten, but you started your presentation
 
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 with the, in a very dark room and with this
 
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 typical note of dry German humor that I
 
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 particularly liked.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Whereas I told you we're born without humour
 
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 so any sense of humour is the result of very
 
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 hard work.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Well I can confirm therefore that your work
 
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 is evident in this particular remark.
 
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 So as we did before and perhaps this time
 
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 more punctiliously, terrible adverb,
 
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 that's why I'm an English major we will be
 
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 taking questions first from the pad and then
 
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 we'll be moving on to people in the BBV room.
 
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 Let me just check if we have some people.
 
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 We do have some people.
 
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 All right, so Markus, I'm gonna ask you the
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Yes, oh no, no, I don't have nothing to
 
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 end of the term here, and I think in the
 
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 paper that I wrote, I expressed doubt that
 
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 Emacs was good for beginners,
 
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 but I've now gone back to an interactive
 
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 notebook in the class without Emacs,
 
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 and I've just missed it terribly the whole
 
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 term. And I think I saw you walk too,
 
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 so that's kind of interesting.
 
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 That's it.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Right. All right, well,
 
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 let's get started with the questions because
 
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 I'm a little worried that we might acquire
 
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 debt because of the time that we have.
 
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 And just to be clear, so that you also know
 
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 the time at which we're supposed to be
 
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 finishing, the next talk here on this track
 
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 is supposed to be at 10.40,
 
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 which is in 13 minutes from now.
 
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 All right, with that said,
 
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 starting with the first questions.
 
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 What tools do you use for making your slides?
 
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 They are very nice and I concur.
 
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 OrgReveal?
 
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 [Speaker 1]: I use OrgReveal. It's a package,
 
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 OrgReveal. I don't have the link right now,
 
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 but it's an org mode package where You create
 
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 some meta information and I think it's
 
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 basically JavaScript, JavaScript package that
 
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 platforms, but it works particularly well
 
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 from Emacs. So you use that a lot.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Right, yeah, I think it is definitely
 
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 interacting with JavaScript in the background
 
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 and it makes for a very clean presentation
 
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 right from Emacs. I mean,
 
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 it's not opened in Emacs unless you use a web
 
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 browser in Emacs that supports such
 
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 compositing but it's pretty convenient and I
 
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 recommend looking into it.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: I'm just going to share the URL here.
 
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 So if anybody's interested.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Right, and we'll be putting all the links
 
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 right now. So obviously right now,
 
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 Marcus is writing inside of his own Emacs,
 
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 but we also have the pad.
 
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 We'll make sure that you have all the links
 
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 accessible a little bit later.
 
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 Okay, moving on to the next question,
 
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 why MDPI?
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Oh yeah, well that's a little bit of a longer
 
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 answer, kind of boring I suppose.
 
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 So when I came here to the US,
 
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 I used to teach a lot of graduate courses and
 
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 I had to suddenly teach a lot of
 
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 which partly motivated this move because it
 
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 made me realize, as I said in the
 
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 presentation, how little the students
 
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 and how important it is for them to work with
 
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 an IDE that doesn't make coding especially
 
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 convenient, but that teaches them a lot of
 
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 the stuff on the side,
 
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 you know, while still presenting a very
 
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 smooth environment, which developers
 
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 appreciate as well. So I came here and I used
 
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 to publish like 4 or 5 research papers per
 
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 year, but I didn't have the time.
 
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 So I was contacted by MDPI.
 
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 And it's 1 of those research paper mills,
 
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 which seem to be springing up where authors
 
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 can, really the institutions of the authors
 
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 have to pay so that they can publish,
 
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 right? So it's not really,
 
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 and I checked them out and they seem to be
 
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 proper peer review publishing,
 
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 but to be absolutely sure I said,
 
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 well, you can have my article,
 
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 but of course for free,
 
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 I'm not going to pay for you to publish it.
 
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 And so that's what they did.
 
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 They invited me and I submitted the paper and
 
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 it was a very good process.
 
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 That was a very, it was a good peer review
 
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 critique. So I changed the paper quite a bit.
 
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 It's still not a great paper.
 
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 It's just a small case study.
 
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 That's the kind of thing that you have a lot
 
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 in medical research where also people don't
 
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 have a lot of time to do research,
 
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 proper research, which takes a very long
 
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 time. And so that's why MDPI.
 
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 And they are in the most of the relevant
 
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 citation indices. So they are reputable
 
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 enough. I mean, normally I would say for
 
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 anybody who does anything like this,
 
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 you might not even want to bother with the
 
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 journal these days anymore.
 
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 You just go straight to ArcSci,
 
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 put out your preprint.
 
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 And in fact, what will happen if you're on
 
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 ArcSci, if somebody finds it interesting,
 
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 they're going to reach out to you to capture
 
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 your paper and have it published under their
 
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 heading. Oh yeah, actually the other reason
 
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 why I wanted MDPI is because there were open
 
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 access from the start.
 
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 And I really like, if you go to the paper,
 
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 I really like the way it's presented.
 
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 So I looked at a few papers and I thought
 
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 it's a really nice online access,
 
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 online open access solution.
 
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 That's the long answer,
 
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 sorry.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: No, that was perfectly fine and you provided
 
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 many details so it was far from a boring
 
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 answer, let me reassure you.
 
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 Moving on to the question,
 
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 we only have about 8 minutes left so I'd like
 
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 to finish those 2 questions and let people in
 
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 the audience speak. So do you think immersion
 
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 can be achieved on teaching other students
 
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 with different backgrounds?
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Oh yeah, that's a really good question.
 
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 I had actually a discussion last night with
 
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 my wife in bed about this,
 
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 about the use of textbooks which are famously
 
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 non-immersive because they're consumed away
 
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 from the class. Very rarely you sit in class
 
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 like people used to do and read something
 
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 together. Maybe they did that in English.
 
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 And that is of course instantly immersive.
 
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 But in computer science,
 
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 many other topics, psychology,
 
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 you know, biology and so on,
 
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 you cannot get immersion,
 
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 at least not in a lecture theater.
 
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 You get it in a lab because people solve the
 
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 problem and then they're immersed in it.
 
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 So, but my answer would be,
 
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 yes, I can think totally immersion can be
 
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 achieved anywhere, but what you have to do is
 
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 you have to not lecture and you have to let
 
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 students do work as you go along.
 
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 So I used to lecture quite a bit because I
 
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 was an insecure young professor and just read
 
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 all my slides and my notes as I used to use,
 
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 as everybody uses to when they start.
 
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 But as I went along, I realized,
 
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 you know, I've got such a grasp of the topic
 
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 that I really everything I do now is prepared
 
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 in Emacs in an interactive way so I start
 
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 saying a few words and then the students
 
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 immediately we get to work and they seem to
 
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 love that because in most of the other
 
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 classes people just talk at them they take
 
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 their stuff home and work at home,
 
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 which is of course is super.
 
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 But most of the students,
 
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 if they have, in at least in a liberal arts
 
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 college, they have 5 other classes,
 
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 they do not take a lot of time to do the work
 
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 at home. So it's, you know,
 
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 yeah, It's kind of different.
 
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 It's kind of risky, yeah,
 
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 but the main point I was trying to make is
 
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 Emacs and Org Mode really helped me to boil
 
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 that interactive session down to something
 
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 that will work in the classroom.
 
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 I don't have to jump around between
 
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 platforms. For example,
 
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 this term, and I didn't use Emacs in the
 
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 class with the students,
 
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 I had to render using a package.
 
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 It's actually a very nice package called,
 
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 what's it called? Ox, what's it called?
 
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 Ox, Ox IPNB. It's called Ox IPNB.
 
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 So what it does is it renders in the usual
 
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 way with Emacs, Org Mode does,
 
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 renders interactive notebook files in
 
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 Jupyter. And that took me a lot of time.
 
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 And I immediately noticed as soon as the
 
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 teacher has to fight platforms themselves,
 
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 they take the ball off the immersion task,
 
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 you know, to keep the student on the problem.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Yeah. Oh, go on, please.
 
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 Yeah. I was going to remark that.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: So yeah, absolutely. Yeah,
 
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 I suppose it might be MIT style.
 
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 Big difference though,
 
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 my classes are very, very short,
 
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 small. So I have like between 10 and 15
 
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 went to this college is because I was fed up
 
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 teaching, trying to teach hundreds of
 
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 students. Okay, sorry,
 
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 do some of your students nag you about using
 
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 VS Code? Yes, they do,
 
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 but their arguments aren't very good.
 
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 They hadn't really compared Emacs and VS
 
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 Code. And what I do, actually I use RStudio
 
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 as well, demonstrate VS Code,
 
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 RStudio and Emacs. And I think it's very easy
 
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 for them to see. And there are some videos
 
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 about that as well, how much easier it is to
 
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 get into Emacs to limit your investments to
 
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 what you actually wanna do.
 
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 When the problem with VS Code is it comes at
 
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 you with this sort of Microsoft store
 
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 ideology, like a gazillion plugins,
 
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 which if you're a developer,
 
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 you know what you want.
 
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 And I mean, it's a bit like VS Code is like
 
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 Google search for as if you were programming
 
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 in Google search, a complete waste of time.
 
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 Having said that, I've also seen some videos
 
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 with people who really know how to use VS
 
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 Code. And of course, you know,
 
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 if somebody gets on the inside of a tool and
 
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 spends upwards of a thousand hours in the
 
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 tool, they'll be great.
 
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 But that's not true for beginners.
 
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 So hold on, there's another 1.
 
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 I'm reading them, sorry.
 
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 Leo, I can see the questions,
 
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 but you may wanna turn them around.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: No, No, no, please, please,
 
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 you're free to read them.
 
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 I'm on your fasted computer.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Some of you, too, that's the nagging.
 
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 I teach simple programming at a vocational
 
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 school, and even after showing the students
 
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 Vim, Vim, of course, is a contender,
 
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 and now I'm telling them I prefer Emacs.
 
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 They still all choose VS Code as their
 
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 editor. Well, okay, what I did is mandatory.
 
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 I didn't let them choose.
 
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 That's what I did. And I thought that was
 
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 quite risky, but in the end,
 
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 it turns out that the best students loved it
 
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 and keep using Emacs in their jobs.
 
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 I hear that now. The students in the middle
 
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 were probably the ones who would pick VS Code
 
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 because every tutorial they see,
 
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 they learn a lot through YouTube and so
 
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 everything they see is in VS Code.
 
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 If there were more tutorials in Emacs,
 
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 I'm trying to make some,
 
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 then of course that would be different.
 
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 But I think it's partly brainwashing and
 
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 partly, of course, the other reason is there
 
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 is no online Emacs. They use VS Code Dev,
 
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 right? And that's, of course,
 
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 they use an online cloud solution.
 
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 Like most of the students in the high school,
 
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 I teach Python in the high school right now,
 
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 and the students only get Chromebooks that
 
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 are completely cut down to nothing.
 
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 They cannot have Linux on their Chromebooks.
 
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 So what are they supposed to do?
 
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 Their only choice really is Repl.
 
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 Repl.com is a possibility for them to do
 
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 that. But, you know, or they use code spaces,
 
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 which is VS Code in GitHub.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Marcus, sorry for the interruption.
 
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 We only have about 2 minutes left.
 
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 So if you could take 1 question,
 
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 that would be great. Sorry.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: So. I'm observing the same behavior.
 
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 Any more tutorials will be most welcome.
 
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 Yes, I I'd love to. I spent the rest of my
 
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 days on this earth making Emacs tutorials if
 
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 [Speaker 0]: tutorials if I can.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: I can. Thank you. DMAX Thank you.
 
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 Approach to handling EDA.
 
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 Oh yeah, with white data sets.
 
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 Well, that's a good point.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: So Markus, I don't want to put you under too
 
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 [Speaker 1]: answer the question. The handling EDA,
 
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 I don't know, if you look at the comments,
 
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 I think these are on YouTube,
 
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 right, at some point, Leo?
 
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 [Speaker 0]: much pressure to Oh yes,
 
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 they will definitely be on YouTube.
 
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 answer the
 
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 [Speaker 1]: I'm going to question you asked about the
 
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 EDA, that's too long to go into right now,
 
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 plus my cat is here. So I'm going to answer
 
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 that in the comments, all right?
 
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 Start up the conversation.
 
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 Yes, I'm going to post that in the comments
 
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 as well.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Sure, but Also, just to be clear,
 
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 Marcus, you're going to continue the
 
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 discussion. It's just a stream that will be
 
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 moving on to the next talk in about 50
 
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 seconds. Marcus, feel free to keep answering
 
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 questions inside this room.
 
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 You also have people, we're going to check
 
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 aside with the stream,
 
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 we have a number of people in the room.
 
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 You can see them on the left on the button
 
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 who are probably going to unmute themselves
 
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 and ask you questions.
 
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 So feel free to stay in the room,
 
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 answer as lengthy as you want the questions
 
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 because that's more content for us and we
 
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 love it obviously. But it's just that I
 
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 personally will be leaving to take care of
 
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 the rest of the talks.
 
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 So, Markus, do you have any last words before
 
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 we move on?
 
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 [Speaker 1]: No, just thank you for this wonderful...
 
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 I'm going to copy this.
 
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 I don't think I listened to the talk by
 
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 Sascha yet, but I'm going to do that because
 
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 I really want to copy this conference format.
 
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 I think that is the conference format of the
 
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 future, using volunteers to put together
 
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 conferences. So I can't wait.
 
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 Nobody wants to come to Batesville where I
 
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 am, but thank you so much.
 
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 That was really super professional.
 
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 I love that.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Great. Okay, we are almost perfectly on time.
 
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 I think we caught up about 1 or 2 seconds
 
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 into the last sentence you said but otherwise
 
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 we were splendidly on time.
 
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 So thank you so much Marcus.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: You're welcome. So I wanted to say a little
 
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 bit about that question about handling EDA.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Can you see the chat on the left?
 
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 Because people have started asking questions
 
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 on the left. Can you see the chat?
 
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 [Speaker 1]: I mean I used email. Sorry,
 
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 [Speaker 0]: So you've got multiple avenues for questions.
 
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 [Speaker 2]: You can
 
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 [Speaker 0]: still answer questions in the chat.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: sorry, sorry. Okay, I'm just going to go into
 
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 that. Yeah, that's fine.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Sure, I'll need to go now.
 
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 So Marcus, have a great day and I'll probably
 
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 Bye bye. There was a question about the,
 
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 I wanted to ask the answer the question about
 
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 EDA, large data sets. So,
 
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 I mean, I teach undergraduate now,
 
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 so there's a limited number of courses,
 
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 like where I use, actually have big data
 
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 issues. And I mean I'm not saying that I'm
 
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 not that I don't run into performance issues
 
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 with Emacs. I obviously do.
 
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 But like the performance issues in Emacs are
 
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 comparable to performance issues for example
 
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 when using R. In R everything is in memory So
 
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 you are limited to the available,
 
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 what is it, 2 gigabyte or whatever memory of
 
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 your computer. So you would have to find
 
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 other infrastructure solutions anyway.
 
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 The advantage of using Emacs is that I can,
 
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 within 1 Org Mode file,
 
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 connect to an external database.
 
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 I can even, as probably most of you know,
 
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 I can even use it as a text-based web browser
 
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 if I want to. So I could look at individual
 
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 files. And the other point of EDA of course
 
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 is that you're not supposed to look at the
 
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 tables. You're supposed to get the basic
 
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 frame of your data. Is there a header?
 
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 What's the approximate size and stuff like
 
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 that? And then you're supposed to import it
 
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 into a data frame ideally,
 
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 at least in portions. And I don't think,
 
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 yeah, so that's it. But the full answer is
 
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 that I have not done big data analysis in
 
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 Emacs. So that's actually a really nice
 
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 extension. I'm going to write that down as a
 
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 thing to talk about in some future talk.
 
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 Okay, so ADA with big data.
 
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 Even though interesting would be to know what
 
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 kind of size of data you're actually talking
 
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 about. So I don't know,
 
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 what is it, upwards of 1 terabyte or
 
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 something like that, I don't know.
 
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 That'd be interesting to know.
 
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 Haven't done that in class.
 
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 So there's another question.
 
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 Proportion of students that you think would
 
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 keep on using Emacs after your course?
 
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 That's not a difficult question,
 
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 because as I said, I have very small classes.
 
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 I've been here since 2 years.
 
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 So I'm in touch with almost all the students.
 
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 In fact, I'm getting them work after school.
 
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 So that's really cool.
 
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 And everybody who took to Emacs really
 
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 seriously, so probably about 25% or so keep
 
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 using Emacs after, afterwards.
 
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 I mean, even in the job,
 
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 right, in the professional field.
 
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 Who, those who keep using Emacs after the
 
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 course, I think the number is greater,
 
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 but I have not followed up on that.
 
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 I have to, my guess is more than half,
 
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 I would say, half or more than half.
 
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 Oh, Aaron, thank you so much.
 
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 That's very sweet. But I didn't think the
 
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 presentation was great.
 
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 I was thinking about redoing it,
 
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 but this is actually the first take.
 
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 It was late, I had lots of other stuff to do.
 
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 I think what I'm more interested in than
 
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 papers is probably this idea of making
 
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 Emacs-based data science videos because there
 
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 aren't many out there.
 
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 Most of the people who do,
 
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 and computer science, most people who do that
 
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 are not either developers and certainly not
 
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 teachers. So I think that's a good idea.
 
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 I'm gonna pick that up.
 
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 So to do more Remax based data science videos
 
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 Is there anything else?
 
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 More people. There are some people here in
 
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 the room still.
 
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 [Speaker 2]: If you do a PSVL on work.
 
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 What? Or wiki. What's my YouTube channel?
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Oh, yeah, I'm going to give you the,
 
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 I've got a bunch of different YouTube
 
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 channels. I'm going to put them in the
 
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 comments to my talk. Hold on,
 
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 the 1 where I have the latest Emacs videos,
 
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 you find my name, there's nobody in the world
 
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 with my name. So if you look for Gerten Krag
 
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 on YouTube, then you will find it.
 
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-[Speaker 2]: But I got a bunch of them.
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+But I got a bunch of them.
 
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 Hold on, I'm going to give you the...
 
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-[Speaker 1]: My channel. Okay, This 1 has only got a few
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+My channel. Okay, This 1 has only got a few
 
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 videos. But so there's 1 with a lot more.
 
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 Few recent videos. And I'm going to post
 
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 more. Other ones in the comments of this
 
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 video. Okay, what else?
 
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 I'm trying to find my way back to the button.
 
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 Okay, cool. Oh, yes, thank you.
 
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 I will. That's very good.
 
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 Thank you so much. Of course,
 
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 I use Vork. I hadn't even thought of it.
 
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 Very good. It's interesting,
 
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 that's something that comes to my mind.
 
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 When I was a young student,
 
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 right, people who used Emacs and the web
 
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 wasn't particularly large.
 
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 So the volunteers would automatically make
 
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 videos but not for commercial purposes.
 
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 Now you have an army of people who make
 
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 commercial videos and the videos are usually
 
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 good for the first 10% of every content,
 
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 but as soon as it gets a little more
 
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 difficult, they either don't know what to do
 
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 anymore or they don't do it because it's not
 
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 commercially viable. The number of people who
 
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 move on is gets smaller and smaller and
 
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 smaller. So there's no commerce anymore.
 
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 But when I was a student,
 
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 pretty much all the documentation everywhere
 
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 was created by volunteers,
 
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 just like this conference or like anything in
 
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 org mode. And that doesn't seem to be much of
 
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 a trend anymore, but maybe we can resurrect
 
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-it. So, yes, I'm definitely going to
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-contribute to that. Multiple people are
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+it. So yes, I'm definitely gonna contribute
 
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-typing here. Oh, sorry.
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+to that. Multiple people are typing here.
 
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-Yes. Thank you so much.
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+Oh, sorry. Yes. Thank you so much.
 
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 I'm gonna put that, I'm gonna rectify that in
 
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 the comment. Having said that,
 
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 I am not 100% sure that I didn't lie here.
 
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 May just be because I didn't have much time
 
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 to put the presentation together.
 
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 And it's perfectly possible that that's
 
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 actually Google slides and not all reveal.
 
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 In the classroom when I present and just do
 
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 lectures, I always do reveal,
 
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 but most of the time I do a tree slide.
 
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 That's the quickest way to do it for me.
 
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 So, so presentation. Hold on,
 
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 Let me just copy this 1.
 
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 Make sure that this doesn't get lost.
 
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 Thank you so much for that.
 
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 And presentations in class.
 
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 I use sometimes org-present,
 
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 but there are issues with the font sometimes.
 
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 I use Treeslide most of the time and Org
 
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 [Speaker 2]: tool.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Reveal. But this 1 is my top Of course,
 
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 this is not org, so forget about that.
 
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 Okay. Yeah, so you can send me your,
 
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 you've got my email, I think,
 
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 on the end, if you're interested in following
 
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 up or letting me know about your stuff.
 
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 It might be interesting to,
 
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 I don't know, might be interesting to put
 
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 together a conference or a little seminar
 
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 just for educators.
 
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 DF is still typing, I'm waiting.
 
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 I'm waiting.
 
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 [Speaker 2]: Actually, our mod maintainer,
 
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-Bastian, was talking about the possibility to
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+Bastien, was talking about possibility to
 
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-have just an Org Mod conference.
+00:24:52.340 --> 00:24:54.120
+have just org mod conference.
 
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+00:24:55.760 --> 00:24:59.180
 But the question is, is it worth making a
 
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-[Speaker 1]: A whole separate 1 what?
+00:24:54.780 --> 00:25:02.940
+[Speaker 1]: Yeah. A whole separate 1 what?
 
-00:25:04.740 --> 00:25:05.020
+00:24:59.180 --> 00:25:05.020
 [Speaker 2]: whole separate 1? A whole separate org
 
-00:25:09.100 --> 00:25:09.600
+00:25:07.120 --> 00:25:09.600
 [Speaker 1]: Oh, I see. Yeah, probably would be.
 
 00:25:10.840 --> 00:25:11.340
 Actually.
 
-00:25:13.660 --> 00:25:13.940
+00:25:05.020 --> 00:25:13.940
 [Speaker 2]: dedicated conference. It's just like you see
 
-00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:15.980
+00:25:13.940 --> 00:25:15.980
 how EmacsConf is well done.
 
-00:25:19.080 --> 00:25:19.440
-So it's like creating anything that as good
+00:25:16.800 --> 00:25:19.340
+So it's like creating anything that has good
 
-00:25:25.040 --> 00:25:25.540
+00:25:22.500 --> 00:25:25.540
 [Speaker 1]: Yes. No, I think that's a good idea.
 
-00:25:26.120 --> 00:25:26.620
+00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:26.620
 Yeah, I mean.
 
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-[Speaker 2]: as tricky. I mean, Okay,
+00:25:19.340 --> 00:25:30.480
+[Speaker 2]: is tricky. I mean, Okay,
 
-00:25:32.560 --> 00:25:32.920
+00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:32.920
 it's anywhere, like half of Emacs is anywhere
 
-00:25:36.380 --> 00:25:36.880
+00:25:32.920 --> 00:25:36.880
 remote. So it's almost the same.
 
-00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:40.200
+00:25:37.500 --> 00:25:40.200
 [Speaker 1]: Yeah. Well, I suppose at this point,
 
-00:25:41.260 --> 00:25:41.580
-I don't know if that's what you mean,
+00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:41.520
+I don't know if that's what you mean.
 
-00:25:44.820 --> 00:25:45.040
+00:25:41.520 --> 00:25:45.020
 Org Mode is probably what attracts people to
 
-00:25:46.620 --> 00:25:47.060
+00:25:45.020 --> 00:25:47.040
 Emacs in the first place.
 
-00:25:50.540 --> 00:25:51.040
+00:25:47.040 --> 00:25:51.040
 Like, I suppose Org Roam is the,
 
-00:25:54.140 --> 00:25:54.600
+00:25:51.260 --> 00:25:54.600
 maybe the biggest 1 for people even outside
 
-00:25:57.540 --> 00:25:58.040
+00:25:54.600 --> 00:25:58.080
 of computer science. I use Org.ROM
 
-00:26:07.380 --> 00:26:07.560
-for everything. I think the maintainer or
+00:25:58.280 --> 00:26:02.760
+for everything. But there are...
+
+00:26:04.760 --> 00:26:05.840
+I mean, the thresholds...
 
-00:26:08.660 --> 00:26:09.140
-maybe the creator of Org.MODE
+00:26:06.220 --> 00:26:07.900
+I think that the maintainer or maybe the
 
-00:26:11.460 --> 00:26:11.740
-has claimed and said for many years that Org
+00:26:07.900 --> 00:26:10.520
+creator of Org.MODE has claimed and said for
 
-00:26:13.940 --> 00:26:14.220
-Mode itself doesn't actually necessarily need
+00:26:10.520 --> 00:26:13.140
+many years that Org Mode itself doesn't
 
-00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:16.940
-Emacs. You can have it as a completely
+00:26:13.140 --> 00:26:14.680
+actually necessarily need Emacs.
 
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-separate application as well.
+00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:17.360
+You can have it as a completely separate
 
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-But for a number of reasons,
+00:26:17.360 --> 00:26:19.740
+application as well. But I,
 
-00:26:23.300 --> 00:26:23.440
+00:26:19.760 --> 00:26:21.040
+for a number of reasons,
+
+00:26:21.040 --> 00:26:23.440
 I don't like that. I really like the idea to
 
-00:26:30.420 --> 00:26:30.660
+00:26:28.434 --> 00:26:30.620
 [Speaker 2]: why- The current strategy is that It has to
 
-00:26:33.420 --> 00:26:33.580
+00:26:30.620 --> 00:26:33.580
 be Emacs because the configurability is 1 of
 
-00:26:34.700 --> 00:26:35.140
+00:26:33.580 --> 00:26:35.140
 the strong points anyway.
 
-00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:35.800
+00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:35.820
 [Speaker 1]: have it inside Emacs. The reason That's true.
 
-00:26:37.120 --> 00:26:37.620
+00:26:35.820 --> 00:26:37.620
 [Speaker 2]: You cannot make a separate application.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: No, that's true. I was going to say that.
+00:26:37.840 --> 00:26:38.080
+No,
+
+00:26:38.080 --> 00:26:39.800
+[Speaker 1]: that's true. I was going to say that.
 
-00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:41.460
+00:26:39.800 --> 00:26:41.500
 The thing is you use the flexibility.
 
-00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:43.220
+00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:43.220
 Plus, you also use the,
 
-00:26:45.800 --> 00:26:46.080
+00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:46.080
 I don't know if that's the right word,
 
-00:26:48.380 --> 00:26:48.760
+00:26:46.080 --> 00:26:48.760
 but you use there's something about the free
 
-00:26:52.420 --> 00:26:52.600
+00:26:48.760 --> 00:26:52.600
 ideology of Emacs that is what attracted me
 
-00:26:55.760 --> 00:26:56.260
+00:26:52.600 --> 00:26:56.260
 to it in the first place when I was younger
 
-00:26:59.620 --> 00:27:00.120
+00:26:56.460 --> 00:27:00.290
 and that I find even more important now.
 
-00:27:02.980 --> 00:27:03.480
+00:27:00.765 --> 00:27:03.520
 So what they say the community aspect,
 
-00:27:08.600 --> 00:27:08.800
+00:27:06.220 --> 00:27:08.800
 the reason, the main reason why Python is so
 
-00:27:12.620 --> 00:27:13.120
+00:27:08.800 --> 00:27:13.100
 big today, really. So yeah.
 
-00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:17.860
+00:27:15.060 --> 00:27:17.860
 [Speaker 2]: But in terms of going out of Emacs,
 
-00:27:20.800 --> 00:27:21.300
+00:27:17.860 --> 00:27:21.300
 it's org syntax that is supposed to be like
 
-00:27:22.760 --> 00:27:23.260
+00:27:21.820 --> 00:27:23.260
 breaking out of Emacs.
 
-00:27:28.340 --> 00:27:28.540
-Yeah. So like there's a plan to lay out the
+00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:28.860
+So like there's a plan to lay out the actual
 
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-actual standard document so that you can
+00:27:28.860 --> 00:27:31.420
+standard document so that you can register
 
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-register the format officially.
+00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:32.540
+the format officially.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: Yeah, I think I've heard that too.
+00:27:23.860 --> 00:27:34.760
+[Speaker 1]: Yeah. Yeah, I think I've heard that too.
 
-00:27:36.060 --> 00:27:36.560
+00:27:34.760 --> 00:27:36.560
 I've not followed up on it much.
 
-00:27:38.820 --> 00:27:39.320
+00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:39.320
 I don't know what the,
 
-00:27:40.760 --> 00:27:41.260
+00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:41.260
 I mean, that probably would,
 
-00:27:43.520 --> 00:27:43.780
-it would very likely, if you do that,
+00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:43.040
+it would strength, very likely,
 
-00:27:45.060 --> 00:27:45.380
-it would at least for a short time,
+00:27:43.040 --> 00:27:45.100
+if you do that, it would at least for a short
 
-00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:47.660
-strengthen org mode and weaken emacs.
+00:27:45.100 --> 00:27:47.660
+time, strengthen org mode and weaken emacs.
 
-00:27:50.380 --> 00:27:50.880
+00:27:49.420 --> 00:27:50.880
 I don't know what other examples,
 
-00:27:54.180 --> 00:27:54.680
+00:27:51.580 --> 00:27:54.660
 if there are other examples of applications
 
-00:27:57.560 --> 00:27:57.840
+00:27:55.120 --> 00:27:57.840
 pulled out of IDEs like that.
 
-00:27:58.940 --> 00:27:59.440
+00:27:57.840 --> 00:27:59.480
 I'm not aware of any others.
 
-00:28:02.420 --> 00:28:02.660
+00:28:00.300 --> 00:28:02.680
 [Speaker 2]: Actually, people are trying to make
 
-00:28:04.700 --> 00:28:04.920
-three-seater drama, people are trying to make
+00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:04.920
+three-seater drama. People are trying to make
 
-00:28:05.740 --> 00:28:06.120
+00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:06.240
 like some external parsers,
 
-00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:10.320
+00:28:06.460 --> 00:28:10.320
 a lot of them. And a lot of stuff is done on
 
-00:28:11.820 --> 00:28:12.320
-mobile part, like Android,
+00:28:10.320 --> 00:28:12.940
+mobile part. I can draw it to iOS,
 
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-iOS, especially recently.
+00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:17.780
+especially recently. So things that are Emacs
 
-00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:18.980
-So things that are Emacs independent are
+00:28:17.780 --> 00:28:19.780
+independent are demanded.
 
-00:28:22.940 --> 00:28:23.040
+00:28:20.660 --> 00:28:23.040
 [Speaker 1]: Okay, yeah. I have no doubt that there is a
 
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-[Speaker 2]: demanded. Especially in the environment,
+00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:26.620
+[Speaker 2]: Especially in the environment,
 
-00:28:27.540 --> 00:28:28.040
+00:28:27.040 --> 00:28:28.040
 like every time.
 
-00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:30.680
+00:28:23.040 --> 00:28:30.680
 [Speaker 1]: demand. Yeah. I mean, I didn't get into that
 
-00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:35.020
+00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:35.020
 very much. I have some of my students have 0
 
-00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:36.900
+00:28:35.020 --> 00:28:36.900
 affinity with computers.
 
-00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:39.900
+00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:39.900
 They really don't know their way around their
 
-00:28:43.820 --> 00:28:44.320
+00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:44.320
 computers at all. And so for them,
 
-00:28:50.980 --> 00:28:51.440
+00:28:46.860 --> 00:28:51.440
 It is quite important to learn how to find
 
-00:28:56.380 --> 00:28:56.520
+00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:56.520
 your way around Emacs because it's like a
 
-00:28:57.320 --> 00:28:57.820
+00:28:56.520 --> 00:28:57.820
 little operating system,
 
-00:29:00.060 --> 00:29:00.300
+00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.300
 but it's not. It's an operating system
 
-00:29:03.460 --> 00:29:03.960
+00:29:00.300 --> 00:29:03.960
 without much of the obscurity.
 
-00:29:07.760 --> 00:29:07.960
+00:29:05.080 --> 00:29:07.960
 And the alternative to that would be to
 
-00:29:10.040 --> 00:29:10.520
+00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:10.520
 simply let them work only on the command
 
-00:29:11.980 --> 00:29:12.480
+00:29:10.520 --> 00:29:12.480
 line, which is another possibility.
 
-00:29:16.040 --> 00:29:16.160
+00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:16.160
 But, you know, there of course you are
 
-00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:20.520
+00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:20.540
 limited with regard to if you want to swap
 
-00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:23.500
+00:29:20.540 --> 00:29:23.500
 languages. So for example,
 
-00:29:25.900 --> 00:29:26.000
+00:29:23.940 --> 00:29:26.000
 quite often I find myself in the situation I
 
-00:29:28.660 --> 00:29:28.780
+00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.780
 teach data science in R and Python and in
 
-00:29:31.360 --> 00:29:31.520
+00:29:28.780 --> 00:29:31.520
 Emacs org mode I can demonstrate both of
 
-00:29:34.600 --> 00:29:35.100
+00:29:31.520 --> 00:29:35.100
 these side by side in the same file.
 
-00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:38.700
+00:29:35.280 --> 00:29:38.700
 And that's a great advantage.
 
-00:29:42.040 --> 00:29:42.540
+00:29:39.800 --> 00:29:42.540
 Not to overburden the students when they are
 
-00:29:44.900 --> 00:29:45.100
+00:29:43.060 --> 00:29:45.100
 at the beginning with things that you don't
 
-00:29:47.120 --> 00:29:47.620
+00:29:45.100 --> 00:29:47.620
 want them to necessarily learn about.
 
-00:29:50.560 --> 00:29:51.000
+00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:51.000
 And plus the thing what I like as a graduate
 
-00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:54.400
+00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:54.440
 student when I stepped onto Emacs was that it
 
-00:29:59.960 --> 00:30:00.140
+00:29:54.440 --> 00:30:00.140
 was infinite possibilities to lose myself in
 
-00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:03.060
+00:30:00.140 --> 00:30:03.060
 Emacs and you know go on and learn more stuff
 
-00:30:06.180 --> 00:30:06.340
+00:30:03.060 --> 00:30:06.680
 about it. But it's such a long time ago that
 
-00:30:09.860 --> 00:30:10.360
+00:30:07.300 --> 00:30:10.360
 I barely dare to mention it anymore.
 
-00:30:12.500 --> 00:30:12.880
+00:30:11.600 --> 00:30:12.880
 [Speaker 2]: For command line, actually,
 
-00:30:16.820 --> 00:30:17.080
+00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:17.080
 it's since the Jupyter notebooks and that
 
-00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:19.380
+00:30:17.080 --> 00:30:19.400
 Google thing they are running.
 
-00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:23.820
+00:30:20.820 --> 00:30:23.820
 It's getting so popular that it's clear that
 
-00:30:26.600 --> 00:30:26.760
+00:30:23.820 --> 00:30:26.760
 command line is just losing in popularity in
 
-00:30:31.420 --> 00:30:31.920
+00:30:28.580 --> 00:30:31.920
 [Speaker 1]: well, yes and no. I mean,
 
-00:30:32.860 --> 00:30:33.360
+00:30:26.760 --> 00:30:33.360
 [Speaker 2]: this. Yeah, of course,
 
-00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:38.400
+00:30:36.100 --> 00:30:38.400
 Not the usage. People are still using it,
 
 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:38.900
 obviously.
 
-00:30:40.520 --> 00:30:41.020
+00:30:39.520 --> 00:30:41.020
 [Speaker 1]: I mean, in Google Colab,
 
-00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:43.620
+00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:43.620
 only the paid version allows you to go to the
 
-00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:45.460
+00:30:43.620 --> 00:30:45.460
 terminal and use the command line.
 
-00:30:48.140 --> 00:30:48.580
+00:30:46.620 --> 00:30:48.580
 But of course, the traction,
 
-00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:50.140
+00:30:48.580 --> 00:30:50.140
 and I think that's kind of interesting,
 
-00:30:54.560 --> 00:30:54.680
+00:30:50.660 --> 00:30:54.680
 1 of the reasons why IPython or any of the
 
-00:30:56.780 --> 00:30:56.960
+00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:56.960
 Jupyter notebooks are so cool is because you
 
-00:30:59.440 --> 00:30:59.940
+00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.940
 can use a lot of shell commands from the
 
-00:31:04.620 --> 00:31:05.100
+00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:05.080
 IPython shell. There's a whole bunch of magic
 
-00:31:06.460 --> 00:31:06.960
+00:31:05.080 --> 00:31:07.000
 commands which are quite powerful.
 
-00:31:09.620 --> 00:31:10.120
-The 1 that comes to mind is a time,
+00:31:07.040 --> 00:31:10.020
+I mean the the 1 that comes to mind is time.
 
-00:31:11.820 --> 00:31:12.320
-the time command, for example,
+00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:12.940
+The time command for example you know gives
 
-00:31:13.580 --> 00:31:14.080
-you know, it gives you a really nice,
+00:31:12.940 --> 00:31:15.720
+you a really nice performance quick
 
-00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:16.800
-performance, quick performance check.
+00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:17.660
+performance check. There's a bunch of
 
-00:31:17.660 --> 00:31:18.120
-There's a bunch of different,
+00:31:17.660 --> 00:31:19.780
+different, I think probably close to a
 
-00:31:20.500 --> 00:31:20.900
-I think probably close to a hundred magic
+00:31:19.780 --> 00:31:22.340
+hundred magic commands that you can use in
 
-00:31:22.340 --> 00:31:22.840
-commands that you can use in Jupyter.
+00:31:22.340 --> 00:31:25.600
+Jupyter. But I don't know JupyterLab too
 
-00:31:25.600 --> 00:31:25.840
-But I don't know JupyterLab too well,
+00:31:25.600 --> 00:31:28.840
+well, but I noticed that the companies that
 
-00:31:28.840 --> 00:31:29.220
-but I noticed that the companies that do
+00:31:28.840 --> 00:31:31.080
+do online training, And they are usually the
 
-00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:31.080
-online training, And they are usually the
-
-00:31:34.600 --> 00:31:34.920
+00:31:31.080 --> 00:31:34.920
 ones that are closest to what beginners want,
 
-00:31:35.600 --> 00:31:36.100
+00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:36.100
 especially in business.
 
-00:31:40.780 --> 00:31:40.960
-And what those companies do is they take
+00:31:36.280 --> 00:31:38.220
+And what those companies do is they,
 
-00:31:43.040 --> 00:31:43.220
-JupiterLab and turn it into a presentation of
+00:31:38.560 --> 00:31:41.720
+you know, they take, they take JupyterLab and
 
-00:31:44.300 --> 00:31:44.800
-their own. Another 1 is Notable,
+00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:43.740
+turn it into a presentation of their own.
 
-00:31:47.380 --> 00:31:47.880
-notable.io. That's another 1.
+00:31:43.740 --> 00:31:45.320
+Another 1 is Notable, notable.io.
 
-00:31:50.280 --> 00:31:50.500
-They took JupyterLab and turned it into
+00:31:46.840 --> 00:31:49.900
+That's another 1. They took JupyterLab and
 
-00:31:52.080 --> 00:31:52.200
-something commercial. It's boosted up a
+00:31:49.900 --> 00:31:51.320
+turned it into something commercial.
 
-00:31:58.680 --> 00:31:58.860
-little bit. And so the shell inside the
+00:31:51.340 --> 00:31:52.920
+It's boosted up a little bit.
 
-00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:01.960
-JupyterLab has some of the most more
+00:31:55.840 --> 00:32:00.480
+And so the shell inside the JupyterLab has
 
-00:32:03.120 --> 00:32:03.620
-important shell properties.
+00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:03.120
+some of the most more important shell
 
-00:32:05.800 --> 00:32:06.000
-And so people still use the command line
+00:32:03.120 --> 00:32:05.440
+properties. And so people still use the
 
-00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:07.600
-without knowing that they use the command
+00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.080
+command line without knowing that they use
 
-00:32:12.600 --> 00:32:13.100
-line. But I also like doing,
+00:32:07.080 --> 00:32:13.100
+the command line. But I also like doing,
 
-00:32:14.820 --> 00:32:15.320
+00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:15.300
 how do I use org-roam?
 
-00:32:21.900 --> 00:32:22.020
+00:32:19.360 --> 00:32:22.020
 Well, I use it, I do not have not used it
 
-00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:23.000
+00:32:22.020 --> 00:32:23.000
 with the students yet,
 
-00:32:24.800 --> 00:32:25.020
+00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.020
 only the best students have sort of seen me
 
-00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:29.760
+00:32:25.020 --> 00:32:29.780
 use it and copied it. But I use it probably
 
-00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:32.000
+00:32:29.780 --> 00:32:32.000
 in a very naive, trivial way.
 
-00:32:33.080 --> 00:32:33.580
+00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:33.620
 I can't say that I am,
 
-00:32:36.460 --> 00:32:36.960
+00:32:34.300 --> 00:32:36.960
 that I have a very sophisticated use.
 
-00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:39.640
+00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.640
 I basically, I like the fact that,
 
-00:32:42.940 --> 00:32:43.100
+00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:43.100
 I mean, it's built on the original concept of
 
-00:32:44.280 --> 00:32:44.540
+00:32:43.100 --> 00:32:44.540
 the, with the German word,
 
-00:32:47.900 --> 00:32:48.280
+00:32:44.540 --> 00:32:48.280
 Zettelkasten, right? Which is that you do not
 
-00:32:50.780 --> 00:32:50.940
+00:32:48.280 --> 00:32:50.940
 have to think about a taxonomy because as you
 
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+00:32:50.940 --> 00:32:53.800
 move along, your taxonomy changes all the
 
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+00:32:53.800 --> 00:32:55.580
 time. You know, what you think is important
 
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+00:32:55.580 --> 00:32:57.320
 at the beginning, your root node,
 
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+00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:58.940
 as you go along, you realize,
 
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+00:32:58.940 --> 00:33:00.680
 oh, that's not the root node at all.
 
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-There's a higher level and a higher level and
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+There's a higher level and a higher level.
 
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-some of the lower levels aren't at the lower
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+And some of the lower levels are at the lower
 
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-level, they're actually at the higher level.
+00:33:04.740 --> 00:33:06.300
+level, actually the higher level.
 
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+00:33:06.320 --> 00:33:10.460
 So you're beginning to create hierarchies
 
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+00:33:10.760 --> 00:33:14.340
 that are out of date as soon as you create
 
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+00:33:14.340 --> 00:33:16.360
 the hierarchy. So what is the idea of the
 
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+00:33:16.360 --> 00:33:18.480
 tittle custom is that anything that comes to
 
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+00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:21.100
 your mind you can throw in the custom the box
 
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+00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:26.580
 it literally means Box of notes and That's
 
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+00:33:26.580 --> 00:33:27.740
 what I appreciate about it.
 
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+00:33:27.740 --> 00:33:32.920
 So I create a I create a note pretty much for
 
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+00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.780
 anything I do, but I've only used it for
 
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+00:33:35.860 --> 00:33:38.160
 about a year and a half or so,
 
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+00:33:38.220 --> 00:33:39.740
 or grown, maybe a year.
 
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+00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:43.700
 So I can see that I'm coming up against the
 
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+00:33:43.700 --> 00:33:46.980
 Zettelkasten or note box problems,
 
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+00:33:47.120 --> 00:33:50.860
 which is that I've got so many notes now that
 
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+00:33:50.860 --> 00:33:52.960
 unless I have clever aliases,
 
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+00:33:54.180 --> 00:33:56.680
 there is a chance that I might forget that I
 
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-[Speaker 2]: That's why you need meta-notes.
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+[Speaker 2]: That's why you need meta notes.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: have a note. So I need a- Yes,
 
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+00:34:02.780 --> 00:34:04.920
 [Speaker 2]: In other words, a summarization is important,
 
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+00:34:04.940 --> 00:34:06.800
 no matter what system you use.
 
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+00:34:01.740 --> 00:34:09.739
 [Speaker 1]: yes. But what I'm trying to say is that's a
 
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+00:34:09.739 --> 00:34:11.260
 different approach than hierarchies,
 
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+00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:13.620
 right? It's the same, it's the same,
 
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+00:34:13.620 --> 00:34:15.960
 it's the same principle as a relational
 
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+00:34:16.080 --> 00:34:18.719
 database versus a hierarchical database.
 
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-Same thing. So, yeah, I've not used that.
+00:34:19.120 --> 00:34:23.360
+Same thing. So, yeah, and I've not used that.
 
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+00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:25.400
 I've not really used, actually I have cut
 
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+00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:27.020
 meta notes, of course I do.
 
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+00:34:27.100 --> 00:34:29.000
 So notes that point to other notes.
 
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+00:34:29.487 --> 00:34:34.924
 Yes, of course. I use those.
 
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-I have forgotten that.
-
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+00:34:35.412 --> 00:34:38.800
 I have not taught that part to the students
 
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+00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:42.860
 because I do project work with the students,
 
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+00:34:45.040 --> 00:34:46.320
 but there's only so much time.
 
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+00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:48.219
 I'm already, I mean, already,
 
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+00:34:48.340 --> 00:34:51.000
 I don't think there's any class that where I
 
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+00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:55.860
 am able to use more than 30% of my material.
 
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+00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:57.620
 And the reason is that when the students come
 
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+00:34:57.620 --> 00:34:59.220
 to class, which is I pointed out in the
 
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+00:34:59.220 --> 00:35:01.100
 video, they know so little.
 
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+00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:03.720
 And most of the students,
 
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+00:35:03.720 --> 00:35:04.960
 at least in liberal arts,
 
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+00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:10.280
 spend just too little time outside of class,
 
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+00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:11.600
 getting there, you know,
 
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+00:35:11.600 --> 00:35:13.040
 drilling down into the,
 
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+00:35:13.040 --> 00:35:14.640
 into the, into the infrastructure,
 
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+00:35:14.860 --> 00:35:17.060
 into the work. Only, only the best students
 
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+00:35:17.060 --> 00:35:19.320
 do that. The ones that really catch fire.
 
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+00:35:20.080 --> 00:35:22.280
 [Speaker 2]: Don't you have something like a course
 
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+00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:23.760
 project at the end?
 
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+00:35:24.140 --> 00:35:25.760
 [Speaker 1]: Yes, I have course, not at the end.
 
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+00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:27.720
 I use Scrum. Maybe I shouldn't,
 
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+00:35:27.720 --> 00:35:29.640
 but I've used Scrum for many years.
 
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+00:35:30.040 --> 00:35:32.600
 So I have course projects that start at the
 
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 beginning and they do sprint reviews every 3
 
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+00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:40.640
 or 4 weeks. So term end projects I find
 
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+00:35:40.640 --> 00:35:43.080
 completely useless because the students do
 
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+00:35:43.080 --> 00:35:45.060
 the work at the very end of the term.
 
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-[Speaker 2]: By term end I mean they don't start at the
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+[Speaker 2]: no, by determined I mean they don't start at
 
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-end, they just report at the end.
+00:35:49.600 --> 00:35:51.880
+the end, they just report at the end.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: I use the IMRAD, I use the IMRAD method.
+00:35:45.060 --> 00:35:52.960
+[Speaker 1]: And so I... Oh I use the IMRAD,
 
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+00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:54.300
+I use the IMRAD method.
+
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 So I use IMRAD, basically IMRAD plus,
 
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+00:35:58.700 --> 00:36:00.300
 plus Scrum, right? So,
 
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+00:36:00.300 --> 00:36:02.220
 So the first sprint review is introductory,
 
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+00:36:02.500 --> 00:36:03.480
 the research proposal,
 
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+00:36:03.540 --> 00:36:05.040
 the second 1 is about methodology,
 
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+00:36:05.060 --> 00:36:06.360
 the third 1 about results,
 
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+00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.040
 and the last 1 is their final presentation.
 
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+00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:11.100
 And so that's the way I manage the projects,
 
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+00:36:11.160 --> 00:36:16.040
 but that's about as much as I can do with
 
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+00:36:16.040 --> 00:36:17.640
 them. It's a good idea.
 
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+00:36:17.640 --> 00:36:19.780
 I hadn't even thought about using Org-ROM
 
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+00:36:19.900 --> 00:36:22.760
 with them, but to teach them that might be a
 
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+00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:24.180
 good idea, actually.
 
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+00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:27.220
 [Speaker 2]: Well, for Org-ROM, actually,
 
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+00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:32.360
 what I found useful during my graduate is for
 
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+00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:34.740
 literature review. Yes.
 
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+00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.360
 The other part of our program that is not
 
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-about your like, noting down your thoughts,
+00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.580
+about your like noting down your thoughts is
 
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-is about writing about literature notes.
+00:36:40.580 --> 00:36:42.900
+about writing about literature notes.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: Yeah, that's a good idea,
+00:36:43.780 --> 00:36:45.480
+[Speaker 1]: Yeah, that's a good idea actually.
 
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-actually. And of course,
+00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:46.320
+And of course, I mean,
 
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-I mean, there's more stuff that they should
+00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:48.180
+there's more stuff that they should learn,
 
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-learn, you know, like another 1,
+00:36:48.180 --> 00:36:50.140
+you know, like another 1,
 
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+00:36:50.140 --> 00:36:51.780
 since you mentioned literature,
 
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+00:36:52.420 --> 00:36:54.640
 you know, latex and Bibtech is another
 
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+00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:57.840
 obvious extension of that.
 
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+00:36:58.780 --> 00:37:01.120
 But that is actually a good idea because the
 
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+00:37:01.120 --> 00:37:03.080
 literature is what they have the hardest time
 
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+00:37:04.640 --> 00:37:06.980
 [Speaker 2]: Yeah, like when you need to read like 50
 
 00:37:06.980 --> 00:37:07.480
 papers.
 
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+00:37:03.080 --> 00:37:12.480
 [Speaker 1]: with. Last term, since you mentioned that,
 
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+00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:16.220
 I had a really nice experience because 1 of
 
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+00:37:16.220 --> 00:37:18.300
 our librarians, our digital librarian,
 
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+00:37:18.420 --> 00:37:19.920
 came along and talked to the students,
 
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+00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:21.580
 and he taught me about a tool called
 
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+00:37:21.580 --> 00:37:23.540
 litmap.com, which is basically,
 
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+00:37:24.140 --> 00:37:25.420
 I don't know how it's implemented,
 
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+00:37:25.460 --> 00:37:27.180
 but it's basically a graph,
 
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+00:37:28.140 --> 00:37:31.620
 a graph representation of papers organized by
 
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+00:37:31.620 --> 00:37:35.580
 citation. It's very, very cool.
 
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+00:37:35.900 --> 00:37:38.480
 And the students who used to only find,
 
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+00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:41.080
 I don't know, 1 paper and otherwise,
 
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+00:37:41.180 --> 00:37:44.880
 of course, 15 YouTube videos and 100 blogs,
 
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+00:37:45.380 --> 00:37:49.360
 suddenly started finding and reading
 
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+00:37:49.540 --> 00:37:52.120
 scientific papers. It was only because of
 
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+00:37:52.120 --> 00:37:54.900
 this presentation. So you should take the,
 
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+00:37:55.640 --> 00:37:57.580
 I think, I hope that is the right,
 
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+00:37:58.320 --> 00:37:59.560
 that's the right mode,
 
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+00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:02.380
 litmaps. Okay, it's not litmap,
 
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+00:38:02.380 --> 00:38:05.640
 it's called Litmaps. I'm gonna give you an
 
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+00:38:05.640 --> 00:38:09.000
 example. I don't know if I can share this,
 
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+00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:10.240
 if you can look at that.
 
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+00:38:10.240 --> 00:38:13.640
 But basically you create a,
 
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+00:38:13.860 --> 00:38:16.580
 1 can use 1 of your papers as a seed,
 
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+00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:18.840
 and then it will create a graph,
 
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+00:38:19.660 --> 00:38:21.760
 graph representation of it for you.
 
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+00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.220
 And this is a powerful tool in itself.
 
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+00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:27.600
 But what I'm saying is that the students
 
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+00:38:27.620 --> 00:38:30.900
 suddenly, their use of literature and that
 
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+00:38:30.900 --> 00:38:32.560
 citation goes to the roof.
 
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+00:38:33.080 --> 00:38:35.680
 And I've been waiting for that for probably
 
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+00:38:36.140 --> 00:38:38.300
 15 years since I've started teaching.
 
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-So it's crazy. That's really cool.
+00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:43.420
+It's crazy. That's really cool.
 
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-[Speaker 2]: So here is the same tool,
+00:38:46.500 --> 00:38:47.720
+[Speaker 2]: Here is the same tool,
 
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+00:38:47.720 --> 00:38:49.400
 it's called connected papers.
 
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+00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:53.540
 It's based on the open source citation data.
 
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+00:38:54.140 --> 00:38:56.340
 [Speaker 1]: Yeah, I know that as well,
 
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+00:38:56.500 --> 00:38:57.180
 I think.
 
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+00:39:00.060 --> 00:39:01.560
 [Speaker 2]: It's actually very useful when you just start
 
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-learning the topic, it's like you find 1
+00:39:01.560 --> 00:39:03.960
+learning the topic. It's like you find 1
 
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-paper, then you look into the connections,
+00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:05.800
+paper, then you look into the connections.
 
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-you can quickly narrow down to the most
+00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.260
+You can quickly narrow down to the most
 
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-cited, the core papers on the topic.
+00:39:08.260 --> 00:39:09.500
+cited, the core papers.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: Of course, and that is exactly their
+00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:12.500
+[Speaker 1]: Of course. And that is exactly their
 
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+00:39:12.500 --> 00:39:14.800
 situation, you know, and they're always at
 
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+00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.740
 the beginning. As you go on,
 
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+00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:18.680
 you develop different ways,
 
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+00:39:18.680 --> 00:39:20.140
 but for these complete beginners,
 
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+00:39:20.200 --> 00:39:22.680
 that's a good idea. Thank you so much for
 
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-[Speaker 0]: anything else?
+00:39:22.680 --> 00:39:30.520
+that. Okay, guys, anything else?
 
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-[Speaker 1]: that. Okay, guys, I've enjoyed the
+00:39:31.240 --> 00:39:32.440
+I've enjoyed the conversation,
 
-00:39:33.460 --> 00:39:33.960
-conversation, so you should definitely,
+00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:33.960
+so you should definitely,
 
-00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:37.940
+00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:37.940
 I'm going to take some of these things away.
 
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+00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:42.340
 Thank you so much for that.
 
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+00:39:42.340 --> 00:39:45.740
 Have you done, Yanta, have you done org mode
 
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+00:39:46.300 --> 00:39:48.200
 documentations yourself on WOC?
 
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+00:39:48.900 --> 00:39:52.120
 Or do you have a sort of a favorite 1?
 
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+00:39:52.120 --> 00:39:53.600
 I mean, I often on walk,
 
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+00:39:53.600 --> 00:39:56.740
 I often use the documentation for code
 
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+00:39:56.740 --> 00:39:59.620
 blocks. I used to when I started doing that
 
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+00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:02.800
 [Speaker 2]: Yeah, because it's only on work.
 
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+00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:04.260
 It's not part of the manual.
 
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+00:39:59.620 --> 00:40:05.280
 [Speaker 1]: for the first time. Yeah,
 
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+00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:07.440
 yeah. And so I've used that a lot.
 
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+00:40:07.780 --> 00:40:09.560
 [Speaker 2]: Have I done? Not really,
 
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+00:40:09.720 --> 00:40:11.460
 mostly fixing the errors.
 
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-Okay. Yeah, I think that's a really good
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+Okay.
 
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-idea.
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+[Speaker 1]: Yeah, I think that's a really good idea.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: All right. Well, thank you very much.
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+All right. Well, thank you very much.
 
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 And it's great to be at this conference.
 
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 I think I'm going to get on.
 
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 [Speaker 2]: Thanks for answering all the questions.
 
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+00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.560
 And for the talk, It was quite interesting to
 
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 see our modules in actual teaching.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Yes, thank you. And I got to thank Daniel
 
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+00:40:38.600 --> 00:40:40.840
 German from Canada, the 1 of,
 
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 I had him on 1 of the slides because he,
 
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 he inspired me to do that.
 
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 And, and I wouldn't be at the conference if I
 
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 hadn't contacted him and said oh here's my
 
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 paper and he said oh you should come to the
 
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 conference and so that's why I came to the
 
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 conference. Thank you very much and as they
 
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 say keep in touch. You're welcome.
 
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 Okay bye-bye. You're welcome.
 
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 Okay, bye-bye. Take a copy of the chat before
 
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 you go, if you can. Happy weekend to just bye
 
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 bye.
 
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-[Speaker 2]: You are currently the only person in this
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+[Speaker 0]: You are currently the only person in this
 
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 conference.
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+[Speaker 1]: You
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-[Speaker 0]: And he can hear us. Can you perhaps do it for
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+[Speaker 0]: You can hear us. Can you perhaps do it for
 
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 me? Great. The little angels in the
 
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 background have done it for me.
 
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-So now, finally, that everything is ready.
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+So now finally that everything is ready.
 
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-Hi, James. How are you doing?
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+Hi James, how are you doing?
 
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-[Speaker 1]: Good morning. Hello.
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+Good morning. Hello. Well,
 
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-[Speaker 0]: Well, thank you for your talk.
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+thank you for your talk and sorry for the
 
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-And sorry for the little hiccup at the middle
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+little hiccup at the middle we had to pull
 
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-we had to put out a fire with the audio
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+out a fire with the audio going out in the
 
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-going out in the middle and sorry about this.
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+middle and sorry about this.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: It's no trouble.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: So James, you've obviously told us about your
 
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 very fancy setup with the green screen and
 
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 I'm sad to see that you haven't put out the
 
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 green screen for your BBB session right now.
 
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 Do you have it in the background just for
 
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-you? Right, okay. It wasn't that far.
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+you? Right, okay, it wasn't that far.
 
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-Great. No. So, I'm just going to ask.
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+Great. So I'm just going to ask,
 
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-So, this is the first live Q&A that we have
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+so this is the first live Q&A that we have
 
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-for this session, so things might be coming
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+for the session so things might be coming
 
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-into place, so pardon us if we take a little
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+into place so pardon us if we take a little
 
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 bit of time to put the questions on the
 
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 screen and all of this.
 
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-What I'm gonna do, I'm just gonna load up the
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+What I'm going to do, I'm just going to load
 
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-pad. I would invite James to also open the
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+up the pad. I would invite James to also open
 
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-pad on his hand. Sorry,
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+the pad on his hand. So yeah,
 
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 I've got people talking in my ears and it's
 
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 been a while since I've last had this.
 
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-Okay, so opening the talks right now.
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+And okay, so opening the talks right now,
 
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-Opening the pad, if I can find it.
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+opening the pad if I can find it.
 
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-Open the pad. Okay. Have you got the pad open
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+Open up the pad. Okay.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: So I can read the question.
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+So have you got a pad open on your end,
 
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-[Speaker 0]: on your end, James? Okay,
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+James? So I can read the question.
 
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-great. Opening it on my end as well.
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+So, okay, great. Opening it on my end as
 
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-What I'm going to do, folks,
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+well. What I'm going to do,
 
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-I see some of you have joined us on,
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+folks, I see some of you have joined us.
 
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-if I show you, some of the people that have
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+I'm going to start doing is first taking
 
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-joined us in the BBB room.
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+questions in the other part because it's a
 
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-You can join us as well,
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+little faster to ask questions like this.
 
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-all the links are on the talk page or on ISE,
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+And then as soon as we've finished,
 
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-you can find it very easily.
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-But what I'm going to start doing is first
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-taking questions in the other pad because
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-it's a little faster to ask questions like
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-this, and then as soon as we've finished,
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 feel free to unmute yourself and ask your
 
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-questions. All right, so I've got some
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+questions. All right so I've got some
 
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-reactions about OBS being cool and yes,
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+reactions about OBS being cool and yes both
 
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-both James and I will be able to tell you
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+James and I will be able to tell you that
 
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-that it's very cool. We do very fancy stuff
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+it's very cool we do very fancy stuff like
 
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-like when I need to talk to production in the
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+when I need to talk to production in the
 
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 background and all the stuff obviously that
 
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 James has been able to show you with a green
 
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 screen. So I don't see a whole lot of
 
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 questions so far. I see a lot of reactions on
 
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-publishing lectures book and a classic
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+publishing lectures book and of a classic
 
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 example is John Kitchens obviously.
 
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-Pedagogy first developments macros are a cool
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+Pedagogy first developments.
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+Macros are a cool idea.
 
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-idea. Okay questions so how do you overlap
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+Okay questions. So how do you overlap
 
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-yourself with a presentation it's so cool.
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+yourself with a presentation.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: It's quite simple OBS provides filters for
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+It's so cool. It's quite simple.
 
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-you can have a separate filter for each video
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+[Speaker 1]: OBS provides filters for every...
 
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-feed. And 1 of the filters that's available
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+You can have a separate filter for each video
 
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-is chroma key. You just choose a color to
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+feed and 1 of the filters that's available is
 
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-make transparent and just make sure that the
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+chroma key. You just choose a color to make
 
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+transparent and just make sure that the
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 webcam is at the top of the composition.
 
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 And the thing that surprised me the most was
 
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 how quickly my brain was able to mirror
 
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 everything and control my body from a
 
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 separate point of view like the way weather
 
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 broadcasts are done. It took seconds to be
 
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 able to do that. Well,
 
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 and now I have years of practice because that
 
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-setup that you saw that I used to record this
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+set up that you saw that I used to record
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+this video. I used for years during the
 
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-video, I used for years during the pandemic
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+pandemic for 4 or 5 semesters to because my
 
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-for 4 or 5 semesters to,
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+courses are all have 2,
 
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-because my courses are all have 2,
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+3, 400 students, except for the English
 
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-3, 400 students, except for the English class
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+class, which has, you know,
 
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-which has you know 30 students and so during
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+30 students. And so during the pandemic,
 
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-the pandemic and even after lockdowns were no
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+and even after lockdowns were no longer
 
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-longer mandated I taught online just because
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+mandated, I taught online just because I
 
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-I didn't want to have so many students in the
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-So I've yeah I'm it I have a lot of practice
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+So I've yeah, I'm it. I have a lot of
 
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-doing that.
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+practice doing that.
 
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-[Speaker 0]: But it pays off because it looks so natural
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+[Speaker 0]: But it pays off because it looks so natural,
 
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-you know it feels like it's the same thing
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+you know, it feels like it's the same thing
 
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-with weather casters you know it sounds very
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+with weathercasters, you know,
 
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-it looks very easy to do but it also takes
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+it sounds very it looks very easy to do,
 
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-quite a bit of practice.
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+but it also takes quite a bit of practice.
 
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 1 of the things that you also need to
 
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 remember if you're using a chroma key that
 
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 James has explained is that you need to have
 
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-very good lighting basically for the color to
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+very good lighting, basically for the color
 
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-pop out in the background and for your body
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+to pop out in the background and for your
 
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-to be easily highlightable.
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+body to be easily highlightable.
 
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 Okay, were you finished with this question?
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Yeah, let's take another 1.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Sure. So how do you deal with video in Beam?
 
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 I found it so hard to do that.
 
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 PPT on the other end is easier to achieve.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Yeah, so remember that the slides get
 
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-Well, and in fact, even before when I was
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+Well, and in fact, I even before when I was
 
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-using other software to produce slides I
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+using other software to produce slides,
 
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-produced them as PDFs precisely because I
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+I produced them as PDFs,
 
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-wanted to be able to mark them up on on the
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+precisely because I wanted to be able to mark
 
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-screen with the stylus And so I don't do
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-video in the slides. I use OBS to switch from
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+And so I don't do video in the slides.
 
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-static slides that I mark up with the stylus
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+I use OBS to switch from static slides that I
 
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-over to some kind of video viewer and then
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+mark up with the stylus over to some kind of
 
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-back. And again that's how I can use Firefox.
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+video viewer and then back.
 
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+And again, that's how I can use Firefox.
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 I use OBS to switch between Firefox and video
 
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-and the Shornal++ program where I can mark up
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+and the Shornell plus plus program where I
 
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-slides. So those functionalities are...
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+can mark up slides. So those functionalities
 
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-That's why I use different software and pull
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+are that's why I use different software and
 
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-it all together with OBS so that I can have
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+pull it all together with OBS so that I can
 
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-lots of functional flexibility.
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+have lots of functional flexibility.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Great. Do you ever use things like
 
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 org-present and stay for the PowerPoint
 
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 slides? I'm not sure exactly how to read this
 
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-particular question, but at least we can
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-focus on org-present. Are you familiar with
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+particular question but at least we can focus
 
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-what it is?
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+on org-present. Are you familiar with what it
 
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-[Speaker 1]: I've played around with org-present,
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+is?
 
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-And again, I guess you could use OrgPresent
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+[Speaker 1]: I have played around with org-present and
 
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-to show images and to show headings as
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+again I guess you could use org-present to
 
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-slides. But again, Because it's such a
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+show images and to show headings as slides.
 
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-crucial functionality to be able to mark them
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+But again, because I'm it's such a crucial
 
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-up with a stylus. I didn't really show this
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+functionality to be able to mark them up with
 
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-very much, but I also highlight things the
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+stylus. I didn't really show this very much,
 
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-way I would highlight using a laser pointer
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+but I also highlight things the way I would
 
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-on the screen. And again,
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+highlight using a laser pointer on the
 
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-I don't see Emacs being able to do that for
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+screen. And again, I don't see Emacs being
 
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-another couple of generations.
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+able to do that for another couple of
 
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-So really the only thing I use Emacs for
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+generations. So really the only thing I use
 
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-during presentations is to narrow headings
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+Emacs for during presentations is to narrow
 
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-that we can focus on particular text
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+headings that we can focus on particular text
 
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 excerpts.
 
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-[Speaker 0]: Right, yeah. A lot of our presentations at
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+[Speaker 0]: Right. Yeah. A lot of our presentation at
 
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 EmacsConf are usually,
 
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-especially the Org Mode ones,
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+especially the Org Mode ones are done with
 
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-are done with Org Present.
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+OrgPresent. And. Sorry,
 
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-Sorry, I had someone talk to me in the ear.
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+I had again someone talk to me in a year.
 
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-You know the problem with EmacsConf is that
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+You know, the problem with EmacsConf is that
 
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-every year, you have to relearn a lot of
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+every year, you know, you have to relearn a
 
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-skills, and by the time we finish,
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+lot of skills. And by the time we finished by
 
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-by Sunday evening, we are masters of it.
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+Sunday evening we are masters of it and then
 
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-And then we forget everything by the time the
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+we forget everything by the time the next
 
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-next year comes around.
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+year comes around. What I was going to say is
 
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-What I was going to say is that org-present
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+that org-present is often used by people
 
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-is often used by people inside Emacs,
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+inside Emacs conf presenting about org-mode
 
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-Conf, presenting about org-mode.
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+but yeah whenever you need to do something a
 
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-But yeah, whenever you need to do something a
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 little more visual, it gets a little more
 
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 complicated. Some people have tried to do
 
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 fancy stuff with SVG, which is probably the
 
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 path forward for this type of stuff.
 
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 But yeah, if you need to draw,
 
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 if you need to highlight,
 
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 it is pretty complicated.
 
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 Perhaps something that you might want to be
 
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 interested, James, in checking out is PDF
 
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-Tools, which is a way to open up a PDF in
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+tools, which is a way to open up a PDF in
 
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 Emacs. And this allows you to have basic PDF
 
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 annotations, like putting a little bit of a
 
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 Nikon on it. Perhaps you've already played
 
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 with it.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: I have used that. PDF Tools is an incredible
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+[Speaker 1]: I have used that. PDF tools is an incredible
 
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 package but until it allows me to make a mark
 
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 on the screen that shows up in a video
 
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 compositor. It's not going to replace
 
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-Shornal.
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+Shortenel.
+
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+[Speaker 0]: Definitely. All right.
 
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-[Speaker 0]: Definitely. Alright, moving on to the next
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+Moving on to the next question.
 
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-question. Is the triple-accolade syntax an
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+Is the triple-accolade syntax an Org Mode
 
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-[Speaker 2]: Org Mode core feature that I missed so
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+core feature that I missed so far or did you
 
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-[Speaker 0]: far, or did you program that?
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+program that and thank you for the great
 
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-And thank you for the great talk.
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+talk.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Thank you very much. No,
 
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 it's just part of all of the export backends.
 
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 Actually, I think the way it works is it
 
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 precedes all of the export backends.
 
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 When you export, the first thing that happens
 
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 is expansion of macros.
 
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 And that's a built-in org mode feature.
 
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 It's definitely beyond my Emacs Lisp powers
 
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 to be able to have made something that
 
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 powerful. That's right.
 
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 I have come a long way.
 
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-[Speaker 0]: For now, for now. You know,
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+[Speaker 0]: For now. You know, we always,
 
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-we always, you know, most of the people who
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+you know, most of the people who show up to
 
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-show up to Emacs, especially talking about
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+Max Conf. Especially talking about stuff that
 
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-stuff that has to do with presentations or
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+has to do with presentations or what they do
 
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-what they do in academia,
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+in academia. You know,
 
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-you know, they always say,
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+they always say, oh, but,
 
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-oh, but, you know, I couldn't have done all
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+you know, I couldn't have done all this,
 
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-this, you know, it's just far away.
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+you know, it's just far away.
 
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 And then they come back 1 year or 2 years
 
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-later, and then, oh, I've made my entire
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+later and then, oh, I've made my entire
 
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 library for presentation and stuff like this.
 
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 So Be hopeful about what the future holds for
 
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 you in terms of coming up with crazy new
 
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 features for the entire ecosystem.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Well, let me tell you,
 
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 since the pandemic, I have written,
 
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 I wrote my first major mode.
 
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 It's trivial, but it provides functionality
 
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-that is very useful to me.
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+that is very useful to me and it's it's going
 
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-And it's going to sound like I'm just trying
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+to sound like I'm just trying to butter
 
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-to butter everyone up,
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+everyone up but seeing a lot of the names in
 
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-but seeing a lot of the names in the IRC
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+the IRC channel people who have taught me so
 
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-channel, people who have taught me so much on
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+much on their YouTube channels and in their
 
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-their YouTube channels and in their blog
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+blog posts and on Reddit and on Mastodon.
 
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-posts and on Reddit and on Mastodon.
-
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 Without many of the people who are here today
 
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+00:10:12.620 --> 00:10:15.300
 watching my talk, it's very fun to have
 
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 people who have helped me learn so much about
 
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+00:10:18.160 --> 00:10:20.140
 Emacs. So thanks to all of you.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Well, and yeah, and now you're becoming part
 
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+00:10:24.140 --> 00:10:27.380
 of this crew of people inspiring others to do
 
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+00:10:27.380 --> 00:10:29.160
 very much the same. So thank you for joining
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Thank you very much.
 
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+00:10:29.160 --> 00:10:35.020
 [Speaker 0]: the crew. Great. Moving on to the 2 last
 
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 questions and then we'll open up the mic to
 
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-other people on BigBlueButton.
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+other people on Big Blue Button.
 
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 What kind of comparative feedback are
 
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 students giving you regarding your approach?
 
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-[Speaker 1]: Oh my gosh. Students were ready to,
-
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-during the pandemic especially,
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+[Speaker 1]: Oh, my gosh. Students were ready to during
 
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-when most of the courses were just being
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+the pandemic especially when most of the
 
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-taught over Zoom by people sharing their
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+courses were just being taught over zoom by
 
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-screens.
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+people sharing their screen.
 
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-[Speaker 0]: Just a second, sorry, sorry for the
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+[Speaker 0]: Just a second. Sorry. Sorry for the
 
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-interruption, very rude interruption,
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+interruption. Very rude interruption.
 
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-but I've got the intro for the next talk
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+We've got the intro for the next talk playing
 
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-playing and I'm not sure what's going on.
+00:11:01.220 --> 00:11:02.520
+and I'm not sure what's going on.
 
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+00:11:02.520 --> 00:11:03.580
 Give me just a second.
 
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-Sasha?
+Sasha.
 
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-So... Yeah, I think it's started.
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+[Speaker 1]: Okay.
 
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-Sure. I got the times wrong,
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+Yeah, I think it's started.
 
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-apparently, because of the little delay we
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+Okay so yeah I think it's not a
 
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-had getting the audio fixed up.
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+[Speaker 0]: sure 1 I got the times wrong apparently
 
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-The good news is that we're still recording
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+because of the little delay we had getting
 
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-the talk right now and we still have James
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+the audio fixed up. The good news is that
 
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-around. Obviously, James,
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+we're still recording the talk right now and
 
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-you're no longer on being broadcast on
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+we still have James around.
 
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-General, but if you want to keep answering
+00:11:47.180 --> 00:11:49.740
+Obviously James you're no longer on being
 
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-questions or if you want to,
+00:11:49.740 --> 00:11:53.040
+broadcast on General but if you want to keep
 
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-anyone in the room right now wants to ask you
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+answering questions or if you want to anyone
 
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-questions, feel free to do so.
+00:11:55.800 --> 00:11:57.340
+in the room right now wants to ask you
 
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-I'm going to need to hop off because I need
+00:11:57.340 --> 00:11:58.940
+questions feel free to do so.
 
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-to get other things ready for the next talks,
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+I'm going to need to hop off because I need
 
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-[Speaker 1]: But James,
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+to get other things ready for the next talks
 
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-[Speaker 0]: sadly. great. And sorry,
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+[Speaker 1]: But James, thank you so much.
 
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-I'm a little tense, obviously,
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+[Speaker 0]: sadly. Right and so sorry I'm a little tense
 
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-because I was not expecting this to happen.
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+obviously because I was not expecting this to
 
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-And that led to a very abrupt end to this
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+happen and that led to a very abrupt end to
 
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-discussion. But people afterwards on
+00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:18.480
+this discussion but people afterwards on
 
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+00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:21.980
 emacsmo.org slash 2023 slash talks will be
 
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+00:12:21.980 --> 00:12:24.020
 able to find all the content here.
 
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+00:12:24.020 --> 00:12:25.420
 So I'll have to leave now.
 
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-Thank you so much, James,
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+Thank you so much James for doing the
 
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-for doing the difficult task of opening up
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+difficult task of opening up EmacsConf and
 
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-emacs-conf, And I'll probably see you later.
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+I'll probably see you later.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: Thank you, Leo. Bye-bye.
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+[Speaker 1]: Thank you, Leo. Bye bye.
 
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-[Speaker 3]: On your, the external,
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+[Speaker 2]: On your journal program.
 
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-the journal You were, you,
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+Yes. You are using the tablet as a monitor,
 
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-you were using the tablet as a monitor,
+00:13:03.520 --> 00:13:05.940
+right? Touch screen monitor with that?
 
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-right? Touchscreen monitor,
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+[Speaker 1]: That's exactly right. So it's a tablet so you
 
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-what's that?
+00:13:08.800 --> 00:13:11.980
+know I can. It has a touch screen and so.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: program. Yes. That's exactly right.
+00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:15.580
+So basically the functionality that that
 
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-So it's a tablet, so it has a touchscreen.
-
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-And so basically the functionality that that
-
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+00:13:15.580 --> 00:13:20.580
 program provides is to be able to just mark
 
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+00:13:20.580 --> 00:13:22.160
 up PDFs with a stylus,
 
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+00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:25.280
 you know, in the way that you would use any
 
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+00:13:25.280 --> 00:13:30.600
 other tablet. And to be able to take that
 
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+00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:33.420
 video signal and put it into another machine.
 
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+00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:36.100
 That was the that was the key.
 
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+00:13:36.100 --> 00:13:37.340
 That's the killer app.
 
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-[Speaker 3]: I've thought about grabbing 1 for the purpose
+00:13:39.340 --> 00:13:41.880
+[Speaker 2]: I've thought about grabbing 1 for the purpose
 
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+00:13:41.940 --> 00:13:45.460
 of like changing my laptop into a tablet to
 
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-read manga, browse the web,
+00:13:45.460 --> 00:13:49.640
+read manga, browse the web and kind of
 
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-and I'm kind of curious if it works well like
+00:13:49.640 --> 00:13:51.840
+curious if it works well like as a wireless
 
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-as a wireless monitor with a tablet?
+00:13:52.300 --> 00:13:57.440
+monitor with a tablet or how well it like you
 
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-Or how well it like you can use Emacs with it
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+can use Emacs with it in a tablet mode or
 
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-in a tablet mode? Or were you just or you
+00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:03.000
+were you just
 
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-just use
+00:14:03.820 --> 00:14:10.800
+[Speaker 1]: or you just use the tablet that I use is this
 
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-[Speaker 1]: the tablet that I use is this is it it's just
+00:14:10.800 --> 00:14:14.340
+is it it's just a Microsoft Surface and so it
 
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-the Microsoft Surface and so it comes with a
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+comes with a keyboard so you can take the
 
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-keyboard So you can take the keyboard off.
+00:14:17.780 --> 00:14:20.940
+keyboard off. Yeah, but I use it.
 
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-But I use it with the keyboard as well.
+00:14:20.940 --> 00:14:23.240
+I use it with the keyboard as well.
 
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+00:14:24.560 --> 00:14:25.660
 And I just.
 
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-[Speaker 3]: You're cutting off right now.
-
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-Audio.
-
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-Your audio is cutting off right now.
+00:14:30.060 --> 00:14:31.420
+[Speaker 2]: You're cutting off right now
 
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-How about now? Now I can hear you.
+00:14:53.880 --> 00:15:27.671
+[Speaker 1]: Audio Your audio is cutting off right now.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: How about now? I bumped the mute button on
+00:15:32.680 --> 00:15:34.580
+I bumped the mute button on the mic.
 
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-the mic. Yeah, so again,
+00:15:36.820 --> 00:15:38.300
+Yeah. So again, this is,
 
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-this is... I'm trying to figure out which
+00:15:38.500 --> 00:15:41.540
+[Speaker 2]: is the 16 mute buttons you use.
 
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-[Speaker 3]: of the 16 mute buttons you used.
+00:15:38.300 --> 00:15:45.660
+[Speaker 1]: this It's just the surface pro 3 that I got
 
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-[Speaker 1]: It's just the Surface Pro 3 that I got used.
+00:15:45.660 --> 00:15:48.920
+used and it runs Emacs.
 
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-And it runs Emacs, I mean it runs GNU Linux
+00:15:49.280 --> 00:15:54.300
+I mean it runs. You know Linux really well.
 
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-really well. And the trouble is that the hard
+00:15:54.940 --> 00:15:59.720
+And the trouble is that the hard drive you
 
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-drive, you know, the SSD drive is small and
+00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:02.920
+know the SSE drive is small and the RAM is
 
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-the RAM is small, but it works for the
+00:16:02.920 --> 00:16:06.920
+small, but it works for the purposes.
 
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-purposes. Basically, if I had a couple
+00:16:07.580 --> 00:16:10.080
+Basically, if I had a couple thousand
 
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-thousand dollars, I could probably buy a
+00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:13.860
+dollars, I could probably buy a touchscreen
 
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-touch screen machine or I could run
+00:16:14.280 --> 00:16:17.680
+machine where I could run everything on it
 
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-everything on it and do the streaming and do
+00:16:17.680 --> 00:16:21.360
+and do the streaming and do the video capture
 
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-the video capture and do the PDF markup.
+00:16:21.380 --> 00:16:25.460
+and do the PDF markup.
 
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+00:16:26.020 --> 00:16:28.480
 But since both of these are so,
 
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+00:16:28.860 --> 00:16:31.980
 the hardware that I use is so old and cheap
 
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-and weak, I'd have to split it across 2
+00:16:31.980 --> 00:16:33.800
+and weak I have to split it across 2
 
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+00:16:33.800 --> 00:16:34.300
 machines.
 
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-[Speaker 3]: There's also a beauty in making the stuff,
+00:16:35.020 --> 00:16:37.660
+[Speaker 2]: There's also a beauty in making the stuff
 
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+00:16:37.660 --> 00:16:40.080
 having specific purposes for specific things
 
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-where it's just not, yeah,
+00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:46.020
+where it's just not. Yeah it's like I don't
 
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-it's like, I don't want a smart TV that plays
+00:16:46.020 --> 00:16:49.840
+want a smart TV that plays Netflix I want a
 
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-Netflix. I want a Smart TV that has all the
+00:16:50.140 --> 00:16:53.860
+smart TV that has all the smarts that I turn
 
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-smarts that I turn my smart TV into a TV
+00:16:53.860 --> 00:16:58.780
+my smart TV into a TV monitor I don't want to
 
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-monitor. I
+00:16:58.780 --> 00:16:59.280
+yeah
 
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-[Speaker 1]: Don't want to yeah Really?
+00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:08.539
+[Speaker 1]: I totally feel that ethic I totally I totally
 
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-I I totally feel that ethic I totally feel
+00:17:08.659 --> 00:17:11.640
+feel that ethic. Oh, on
 
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-that ethic.
+00:17:11.760 --> 00:17:15.300
+[Speaker 2]: the some other things like if you want you to
 
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-[Speaker 3]: Oh, on the some other things,
+00:17:15.300 --> 00:17:17.300
+do highlighting in an org mode document.
 
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-like if you want you To do highlighting in an
+00:17:17.300 --> 00:17:19.060
+You can use org web tools.
 
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-org mode document you can use org web tools.
+00:17:19.060 --> 00:17:20.020
+I wrote this in the notes,
 
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-I wrote this in the notes But you can use org
+00:17:20.020 --> 00:17:21.940
+but you can use org web tools to download a
 
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-web tools to download a web page And then you
+00:17:21.940 --> 00:17:25.400
+web page and then you can use org remark to
 
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-can use org remark to start highlighting in
+00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:28.860
+start highlighting in the org mode web page
 
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-the org mode web page And then because it's
+00:17:28.860 --> 00:17:30.860
+and then because an org mode document now you
 
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-an org mode document now,
+00:17:30.860 --> 00:17:32.180
+can just edit it directly.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: right
+00:17:35.600 --> 00:17:38.240
+If you want other people to join in on an
 
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-[Speaker 3]: you can just edit it directly If you have If
+00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:40.680
+Emacs session you could use a package like
 
-00:17:38.300 --> 00:17:38.760
-you want other people to join in on an emacs
+00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:45.040
+what's it called? CRDT.EL
 
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-session you could use a package like,
+00:17:47.020 --> 00:17:50.160
+that will allow 2 people with 2 different
 
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-what's it called, crdt.el
-
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-That will allow 2 people with 2 different
-
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+00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:52.820
 Emacs configurations to edit the same buffer.
 
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-What? And you have a host that can host a
+00:17:54.140 --> 00:17:58.980
+And you have a host that can host a buffer
 
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-[Speaker 1]: Interesting.
+00:17:58.980 --> 00:18:05.960
+too. It works with, and they have 1 optional
 
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-[Speaker 3]: buffer too. And they have 1 optional
-
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+00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:08.180
 extension for org mode that will synchronize
 
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+00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:10.600
 the folding of the org drawers.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: Interesting, I will look into that.
-
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-[Speaker 3]: Like having I don't like if you want students
+00:18:12.320 --> 00:18:14.720
+[Speaker 1]: Interesting. I will look into that.
 
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-like you have H highlight line mode.
+00:18:15.060 --> 00:18:15.560
+Like
 
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-These are just some ideas.
+00:18:19.660 --> 00:18:22.720
+[Speaker 2]: having I don't like if you want students like
 
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-It's like you can have like highlight line
+00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:25.740
+you have each highlight line mode these are
 
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-mode so people can easily see which line
+00:18:25.740 --> 00:18:27.620
+just some ideas like you can have like
 
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-you're on cursor tracking.
+00:18:27.620 --> 00:18:30.060
+highlight line mode so people can easily see
 
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-And then you can have other people join in,
+00:18:30.060 --> 00:18:35.040
+which line you're on cursor tracking and then
 
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-students, or yeah, that's just a possible
+00:18:35.040 --> 00:18:38.680
+you can have other people join in students or
 
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-idea.
+00:18:43.180 --> 00:18:45.300
+[Speaker 1]: yeah that's just a possible idea.
 
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-[Speaker 1]: Is there anyone else in the big blue button
+00:18:45.300 --> 00:18:49.680
+Is there anyone else in the in the big blue
 
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-room who has a question?
+00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:52.180
+button room who has a question?
 
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+00:19:01.360 --> 00:19:03.280
 All right, I'm going to go over to the pad
 
-00:19:05.140 --> 00:19:05.280
+00:19:03.280 --> 00:19:05.280
 and see if there are any pending questions I
 
-00:19:11.280 --> 00:19:11.780
-can address. Thanks PlasmaStrike.
+00:19:05.280 --> 00:19:07.560
+can address. Thanks, Plasma Strike.
 
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-Yep.
+00:19:27.500 --> 00:19:33.140
+[Speaker 3]: Yep. Which could be PDF,
 
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-[Speaker 2]: To be tangled into source code or woven into
-
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-a documentation file, which could be PDF,
-
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+00:19:33.340 --> 00:19:36.680
 could be Markdown, could be OpenOffice,
 
-00:19:39.600 --> 00:19:40.100
+00:19:38.560 --> 00:19:40.100
 could be a notebook format.
 
-00:19:42.860 --> 00:19:43.260
+00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:43.340
 This methodology was conceived by Donald
 
-00:19:51.460 --> 00:19:51.940
+00:19:43.340 --> 00:19:51.980
 Knuth in 1984. The main purpose of literal
 
-00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:54.660
+00:19:51.980 --> 00:19:54.700
 programming is not only to make code or
 
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+00:19:54.700 --> 00:19:57.220
 documentation or output more manageable,
 
-00:20:01.020 --> 00:20:01.220
+00:19:57.800 --> 00:20:01.240
 but to allow humans to create a data story to
 
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-be pieced from a single source.
+00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:03.420
+be used from a single source.
 
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-What you see on the slide on the left hand
+00:20:04.540 --> 00:20:06.300
+What you see on the slide on the left-hand
 
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+00:20:06.300 --> 00:20:09.400
 side is the story and code inside an org-mod
 
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+00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:14.440
 file. The file starts with some
 
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-documentation, then you write back down the
+00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:17.720
+documentation, then you write back down this
 
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-code, and at the bottom you see an output
+00:20:18.420 --> 00:20:22.060
+code, and at the bottom you see the output
 
-00:20:26.040 --> 00:20:26.500
+00:20:22.060 --> 00:20:26.540
 file, which is not shown in the slide itself.
 
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-In the middle, you have the source code,
+00:20:26.800 --> 00:20:28.440
+In the middle you have the source code,
 
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+00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:33.980
 which is the result of tangling or opening a
 
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+00:20:33.980 --> 00:20:36.880
 buffer inside offload.
 
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-On the very right-hand side,
+00:20:37.660 --> 00:20:42.380
+On the very right hand side we have a PDF,
 
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-we have a PDF. Actually,
+00:20:42.580 --> 00:20:47.740
+actually this HTML, very same file that you
 
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-this is HTML, random.org.
+00:20:47.740 --> 00:20:48.960
+see in memory language.
 
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-The very same file that you see in the memory
+00:20:49.600 --> 00:20:53.080
+So the humans look at some of this code and
 
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-language. So the humans look at some of this
+00:20:53.080 --> 00:20:55.400
+the machines look at other parts of the code.
 
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-code, and the machines look at other parts of
+00:20:56.260 --> 00:20:58.320
+I actually did all my programming in the
 
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-the code. I actually did all my programming
+00:20:58.320 --> 00:21:00.260
+literary world even in the early 1990s,
 
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-in the literate way even in the early 1990s,
+00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:03.040
+not using Org Mode, which didn't exist yet,
 
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-not using OrgMode, which didn't exist yet,
+00:21:03.040 --> 00:21:06.160
+but using Norman Ramsey's Norep preprocessor.
 
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-but using Norman Ramsey's NoWeb preprocessor.
+00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:09.720
+They still use it inside the Org-Mode today.
 
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-They still use it inside Org Mode today.
+00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:11.920
+This preprocessor, Norep,
 
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-This preprocessor, NoWeb,
+00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:14.240
+allows you to tangle code from within an
 
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-allows you to tangle code from within an Org
+00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:16.360
+Org-Mode file that is self-standing file,
 
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-Mode file that is a self-standing file,
+00:21:16.360 --> 00:21:18.820
+much like Org-mode's edit functions,
 
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-much like Org Mode's edit functions,
-
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+00:21:19.540 --> 00:21:21.900
 which export code blocks into buffers in
 
-00:21:23.100 --> 00:21:23.600
+00:21:21.900 --> 00:21:23.540
 whatever language the code blocks.
 
-00:21:28.260 --> 00:21:28.760
+00:21:25.940 --> 00:21:28.760
 In data science, these interactive notebooks,
 
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-in 1 of the interpreted languages,
-
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-like Julia, Python, or R,
+00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:32.776
+in 1 of the interpreted languages like Julia,
 
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-dominate. The basic technology is that of
+00:21:32.776 --> 00:21:34.680
+Python, or R dominating?
 
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-Jupyter notebooks, which take their name from
+00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:37.420
+The basic technology is that of Jupyter
 
-00:21:42.540 --> 00:21:42.900
-Julia, Python, and R. And these notebooks use
+00:21:37.420 --> 00:21:39.840
+notebooks, which take their name from Julia,
 
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-a spruce-stuffed shell,
+00:21:39.860 --> 00:21:43.040
+Python, and R. And these notebooks use a
 
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-for example, IPython, and an option to add
+00:21:43.040 --> 00:21:44.880
+spruce-dark shell, for example,
 
-00:21:52.540 --> 00:21:52.940
-SQL cells. Alt mode inside Emacs has a large
+00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:49.240
+IPython, and an option to add SQL cells.
 
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-number of advantages. Some of them are listed
+00:21:50.460 --> 00:21:53.340
+All good inside Emacs has a large number of
 
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-here over these notebooks.
+00:21:53.340 --> 00:21:56.800
+advantages. Some of them are listed here over
 
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-2 of these stand out particularly.
+00:21:56.800 --> 00:21:59.180
+these notebooks. 2 of these stand out
 
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-Different languages can be mixed,
+00:21:59.180 --> 00:22:02.860
+particularly. Different languages can be
 
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-as shown in the image.
+00:22:02.860 --> 00:22:05.640
+mixed as shown in the image.
 
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+00:22:06.460 --> 00:22:07.700
 While in Jupyter notebooks,
 
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+00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:10.900
 a notebook is limited to running a kernel in
 
-00:22:13.940 --> 00:22:14.440
+00:22:10.900 --> 00:22:14.440
 1 language only. The content of the notebook,
 
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-its document code or output part,
-
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-can be exported in a variety of forms.
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 [Speaker 0]: All right, I've started the recording,
 
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 so Sasha, you don't need to worry about this.
 
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 Hi Jeremy, how are you doing?
 
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 [Speaker 1]: I'm doing great, how about you?
 
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 [Speaker 0]: I am also doing great,
 
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 I am feeling replenished after this lunch
 
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 break and I am happy to go back for 4 more
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Me too. Let me
 
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 [Speaker 0]: hours of conferences. just,
 
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 yeah great, Let me just put up the questions.
 
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 So Jeremy is going to read the questions and
 
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 information I may, considering that Orgrim
 
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 and everyone's going to want to ask me.
 
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 at... Show me? Yeah, go.
 
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 do you think the line numbers for writing
 
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 I do software development and that left
 
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 rules and we'll export the buffer.
 
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 and either massage it there or whatnot.
 
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 to I only publish a document and the document
 
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 I'm explicitly doing so and then my process
 
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 so this is another font.
 
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 ET Bembo, I'm using these 2 fonts as kind of
 
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 nothing approach, the blog is anything I want
 
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 it freed it up. And I know that it comes at a
 
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 a technical blog but I decided I'm just gonna
 
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 tag it as programming or emacs and let you
 
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 [Speaker 0]: right thank you so we are we are at the last
 
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 but if anyone has a question on the blue
 
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 us and who was kind enough to drop a thank
 
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 you line on the blue button.
 
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 Do you want to unmute yourself and ask a
 
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 question maybe? I'm not putting pressure by
 
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 the way, I don't feel like you need to but it
 
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 just... I speak all the time otherwise I'm
 
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 very happy to spend time with our speakers
 
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 you know but you know EmacsConf it's about,
 
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 as Sasha told you during the intro,
 
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 it's about making people take things,
 
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 And for us, you know, we get to see the talk
 
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 evolve, we talk with people.
 
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 So for us we are already quite cognizant of
 
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 the topic and the point is not for us hosts
 
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 to ask questions, it's mostly for you to ask
 
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 questions and then we worry about all the
 
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 fancy stuff in the background.
 
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 Otherwise you damn well know I will ask
 
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 questions about org-roam,
 
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 about links, and nodes in general,
 
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 because that's my bread and butter.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Yeah, I should add, like,
 
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 the process of migrating the data from a
 
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 WordPress export to markdown to org mode by
 
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 way of Pandoc was, it was really insightful
 
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 to help me understand how I want the data to
 
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 flow and how I could create a repository for
 
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 me of information and 1 that I could then
 
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 the public information,
 
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 while not having to worry about the private
 
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 things that I might want to keep.
 
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 So it was that process of just working
 
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 through it to reflect on how I'm writing and
 
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 what I started using writing for.
 
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 I think Richard Feynman said,
 
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 no, writing is my thinking.
 
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 What I wrote is thinking.
 
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 So it has helped to really frame that.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Yeah, I mean, there's an interesting
 
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 ambivalent relationship because it feels like
 
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 writing helps thinking and thinking helps
 
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 writing in a way and nowhere have I
 
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 personally been more aware of this than when
 
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 coming up with networks of notes because it
 
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 really I mean you use whichever word you want
 
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 you know a second brain a collection of notes
 
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 a slip box a repository of notes whichever
 
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 the tool you use the point at the end is to
 
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 resonate with you. It's kind of like
 
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 extending those moments of consciousness that
 
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 and you make the entire gradient available.
 
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 Sorry, I heard Sasha whispering in my ear
 
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 sometimes. It's pretty pleasant.
 
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 It's really shocking.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Yeah, Aaron, you had a question.
 
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 Do I use denote just for my blogs or do I use
 
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 I use denote for all of my note taking and
 
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 that I, that I use it in.
 
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 consideration that Proc put forward was the
 
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 file name encodes the information that's
 
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 relevant. So it has helped me be able to
 
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 query by using things like ripgrep,
 
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 well not ripgrep, tree or I forget any more
 
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 what I use. But having that the file encodes
 
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 useful information. And it's so much more
 
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 relevant when I look at having worked at a
 
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 university that rolled out Google Drive to
 
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 everyone without any guidance on how to
 
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 organize stuff. And I worked at a library and
 
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 it was just a nightmare watching things show
 
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 up where you could never find it again.
 
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 having the title and having tags just made so
 
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 much sense to be findable.
 
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 And yeah, I really do just use org.
 
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 But if I am going to make txt files or other
 
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 files, I have started adopting that structure
 
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 and format.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Right. Well, Jeremy, we have about 1 minute
 
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 and 30 seconds left until we go on to the
 
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 next talk. Do you have any final words
 
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 regarding your presentation or maybe where
 
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 people can find you? I know you've already
 
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 mentioned this but...
 
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 [Speaker 1]: Yeah, take on rules. I'm also on dice camp
 
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 dice.campmastodon at take on rules and I've
 
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 thought about emacs.h but we federate well So
 
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 I appreciate that. And I can stay on and
 
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 answer any further questions if folks have
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Sure. So sorry. Sorry,
 
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 I confused myself with the buttons talking to
 
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 production and all. Well then,
 
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 what I'm going to do is that the stream is
 
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 going to move on to the next talk in about 50
 
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 seconds. If people want to join and ask any
 
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 questions, feel free to join on the blue
 
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 button. The link is on the talk page or on
 
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 IRC. And feel free to hang out as long as you
 
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 want to ask as many questions as you want to
 
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 Jeremy. We are recording all of this and
 
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 we'll be publishing this later on once again.
 
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 And all that's left for me to do is to thank
 
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 you so much, Jeremy, for your presentation
 
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 and your answers. And I will see you another
 
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 time.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: So yeah, plasma strike.
 
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 I'm not able to grant speaking powers.
 
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 So if you wanted to type up something
 
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 question-wise.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Oh, okay. I'll manage this in the background.
 
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 So we're moving on to the next talk.
 
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 We'll figure out the things about VBB,
 
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 But in the meantime, enjoy the next talk.
 
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 Bye. All right, Jeremy.
 
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 We are now on the next talk.
 
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 Sorry about having to mention multiple things
 
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 at the same time. Speaking rights.
 
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 I will try fixing this in the background.
 
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 I need to get moving for the next talk,
 
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 but I'll do it in the background and we'll
 
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 let you know as soon as it's ready.
 
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 [Speaker 1]: We're doing great. Okay.
 
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 [Speaker 0]: Alright, bye bye Jeremy.