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## Questions and answers
-- Q:\<\_viz\> Q: Is the track-changes item about the org-element
+- Q:<\_viz\> Q: Is the track-changes item about the org-element
parser? \[10:34\]
- A:Yes
- - \<Ihor\> Moreover, track-changes has been developed with my
+ - <Ihor\> Moreover, track-changes has been developed with my
input specifically aimed to make sure that it can support
org-element use case. See
[https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi](https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi)
@@ -48,7 +48,7 @@ Ihor Radchenko
- [https://github.com/rksm/org-ai?tab=readme-ov-file#setting-up-speech-input\--output](https://github.com/rksm/org-ai?tab=readme-ov-file#setting-up-speech-input--output)
- You can use attachment and images to paste.
- - \<Ihor\> In terms of actually adding support for hadwritten
+ - <Ihor\> In terms of actually adding support for hadwritten
notes/audio, it is not 100% clear what that support would
consitute. Tooling to convert images/sound to text would
probably not be appropriate for Org mode. It would be better
@@ -56,7 +56,7 @@ Ihor Radchenko
supported, but again, it is not clear what such a support would
constitute.
- - \"Would that be interesting to the community?\" Go and ask ;)
+ - "Would that be interesting to the community?" Go and ask ;)
Just write about your idea in details to the mailing list and
you will get feedback. What I can tell is that this topic does
not surface frequently as far as I am aware.
@@ -87,7 +87,7 @@ Ihor Radchenko
- [https://list.orgmode.org/2021-11-28T20-44-37@devnull.Karl-Voit.at/](https://list.orgmode.org/2021-11-28T20-44-37@devnull.Karl-Voit.at/)
- My followup:
[https://list.orgmode.org/87tufnbj1w.fsf@localhost/](https://list.orgmode.org/87tufnbj1w.fsf@localhost/)
- - Despite pushback, Karl\'s idea did align with our IETF idea
+ - Despite pushback, Karl's idea did align with our IETF idea
and with one of the point I make in the presentation about
making life easier for non-Emacs apps.
- See
@@ -100,22 +100,22 @@ Ihor Radchenko
needs to be done not
- just by this Emacs Org-mode community, but by
bringing together other
- - \"consumers\" of .org files, from ecosystems outside
+ - "consumers" of .org files, from ecosystems outside
of Emacs.
- Such a collective work could lead to define what
subset of the Org
- syntax is useful as the corner-stone for .org files
everywhere - which
- - is what you rightfully brought up with \"Orgdown\".
+ - is what you rightfully brought up with "Orgdown".
- If successful, such a process could end up in
defining the minimal and
- - official \"Org syntax\" while allowing
+ - official "Org syntax" while allowing
implementations (like the one for
- Emacs org-mode) to supercharge this syntax if deemed
useful.
- Perhaps TEC is right and we will end up having the
minimal syntax
- - being the one we currently use for Org-mode: we\'ll
+ - being the one we currently use for Org-mode: we'll
see.
- Q: About a year ago we discussed switching GNU documentation from texinfo to org. Do you still consider this?
- A: We don't want to complicate org syntax to adjust to the
@@ -130,64 +130,52 @@ Ihor Radchenko
## Notes
-    \<meain\> Nice to see mobile apps actively being considered when
-talking about\
-                org :D \[10:29\]\
-
-- \<johnhamelink\> Transient integration in org will be a very welcome
--                              improvement! Being able to save the
- transient state on
--                              org-export would be very nice indeed
-- \<tarsius\> fun fact: Transient did take some inspiration from
- Org\'s menus
- - \<bzg\_\> tarsius: Oh, I did not know this!
- - \<bzg\_\> From which menus exactly, those implemented by Nicolas
- for the
- -              exporter?
- - \<tarsius\> Not any specific menus but the \"dim unreachable
- commands, when the
- -                     user typed an incomplete key sequence\"
+- Nice to see mobile apps actively being considered when talking about org :D
+- Transient integration in org will be a very welcome improvement! Being able to save the
+ transient state on org-export would be very nice indeed
+- fun fact: Transient did take some inspiration from Org's menus
+ - tarsius: Oh, I did not know this!
+ - From which menus exactly, those implemented by Nicolas
+ for the exporter?
+ - Not any specific menus but the "dim unreachable
+ commands, when the user typed an incomplete key sequence"
feature.
-- \<polezaivsani\> love to hear how folks in emacs real approach
+- love to hear how folks in emacs real approach
project development as social endeavors to a significant degree
-- \<neil\> Another mobile app that understands org-markdown is
+- Another mobile app that understands org-markdown is
ZettelNotes
([https://znotes.thedoc.eu.org/](https://znotes.thedoc.eu.org/))
- - \<Ihor\> It is not the only one missed. For a reason. I did not
+ - It is not the only one missed. For a reason. I did not
find source code.
- - \<neil\> Ah ok, that is fair.
-- \<jaafar\>There is a Ruby parser too, in the Guthub renderer
+ - Ah ok, that is fair.
+- <jaafar\>There is a Ruby parser too, in the Guthub renderer
- Right. It is also listed at
[https://orgmode.org/tools.html](https://orgmode.org/tools.html)
(alongside with Pandoc)
-- \<johnhamelink\> As an org user but someone who is not familiar with
- development
--                              (and has no context on org\'s direction
- before Ihor\'s
--                              stewardship), I\'m really excited about
- the priorities being
--                              expressed in this talk :) Thanks
+- As an org user but someone who is not familiar with
+ development (and has no context on org's direction before Ihor's stewardship), I'm really excited about the priorities being expressed in this talk :) Thanks
\[10:47\]
-- \<kswiss\> another great (and absolute core to me) app with org-mode
+- another great (and absolute core to me) app with org-mode
support (respectively org files are at the core of it) for iOS
devices is: beorg
- [https://www.beorgapp.com/](https://www.beorgapp.com/) 
-- \<johnhamelink\> Really encouraging stuff, thanks :D \[11:02\]
-- \<vidianos, aquamo4k, stshine\> Thank you yantar92\` 
-- \<martinl\> Thank you for this wonderful talk!
-- \<vidianos\> We appreciate all the work being done
-- \<mjhoy\> really enjoying this talk as a long time user who hasn\'t
- ever really
--                 thought about how org mode gets developed (much less
+ [https://www.beorgapp.com/](https://www.beorgapp.com/)
+ - the dev is responsive and open for feedback/feature requests, from my experience so far. i'm still "a noob", but org-mode, emacs and beorg allow me to structure my workflows/needs and to get rid of possibly many other apps/software.
+ - The list of iOS-native apps are still quite small with varying quality. So far, I'm quite happy with beorg. Tried out other too (1-2 i may be missing, maybe considering buying them, even if it's just a small contribution to Emacs/orgmode as community as such). as far as the libre aspect. true, but i have to be pragmatic at some point, and firstly i want to be productive/efficient/effective. As long as it's a sole dev / community-inspired thing, and not a big corporate raider, i'm fine with non-libre software, if the standards are kept and no proprietary overhead stuff is modifying the core of org-mode (in this example for example).
+- Really encouraging stuff, thanks :D
+- Thank you yantar92\` 
+- Thank you for this wonderful talk!
+- We appreciate all the work being done
+- really enjoying this talk as a long time user who hasn't
+ ever really thought about how org mode gets developed (much less
contributed)
- For audio transcription, I use Speech Note (offline) and copy the
text to orgmode
-- It\'s great to see Carsten, Bastien and Ihor together. I run my life
+- It's great to see Carsten, Bastien and Ihor together. I run my life
with orgmode, so we owe you guys a lot :)
-- \<sachac\> I think a huge part of Org Mode is workflow, and that\'s
- both highly individual and highly social - we learn about what\'s
+- I think a huge part of Org Mode is workflow, and that's
+ both highly individual and highly social - we learn about what's
possible by hearing about how other people do things
-
+- Thank you for taking over org! I use it every day and I'm happy to see that org's future is in good hands.
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