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- through [e-mail](mailto:sp1ff@pobox.com)
- or on [Github](https://github.com/sp1ff)
+# Discussion
+
+## Notes
+
+- Thanks for a great talk - this was the missing piece in the puzzle
+ of the website I\'m tinkering with!
+ - I\'m so happy to hear that!
+- Similar: <http://www.by-star.net/> and
+ <http://www.by-star.net/content/generated/doc.free/bystar/PLPC/180038/current/accessPage>
+
+## Questions and answers
+
+- Q: Have you wu. This allows you to make a login that you own or at
+ least is more open souree and ownable. Seems to fit in with indie
+ web
+ - A: No but I will check it out later
+- Q: How did you create the graphical drill-down representation of the
+ make call? Is it hand-written and scanned in?
+ - A: LOL\... I started with a diagram I made at
+ <https://excalidraw.com/>. The initial diagram was the complete
+ flow. Exported that to Gimp & made the intermediate slides there
+- Q: what happens when you re-publish or re-export the same post? i.e.
+ will the webmention be sent out repeatedly?
+ - A: You could do that but it would annoy the recipient. The
+ system is smart enough not to re-send the mentions.
+- Q: An advantage I see to using org mode for the indieweb  for this
+ is you can use it for your notes \"org roam for example\" and org
+ mode no-export for private data you don\'t want ot share. Your
+ webmentions could be org files as notes.. Anything else good about
+ using org mode for this.
+ - A:
+- Q:  Any thoughts on using with with Ox-Hugo?
+ - A: No. So far, I was following an Emacs/Org mode OOTB (out of
+ the box) approach and pushing emacs as far as I could take it
+- Q: So, is this a Web3 approach? Web 1 = static sites Web 2 =
+ interactive sites- but centralized
+ - A: Indieweb is about reclaiming your data. It\'s a distibuted
+ approach.
+ - Annotation Karl: some people started the term Web0 for similar,
+ decentralized approaches. ;-)
+ - Annotation Karl: Web3 is supposed to be something really strange
+ with Blockchains and this is definitely nothing like that Web3
+ (which will be a dead bubble in a few months IMHO)
+ - Here's the link: Do you see this as a format for annotations
+ specifically, or something more general that can be used for
+ interlinear glosses, etc?
+- Q: Is there a workflow to use emacs to publish and connect directly
+ to target websites instead of telegraph?
+ - A: If you want to cut telegraph cut out of the equation, you\'ll
+ need more work on the client-side. \"What if they\'re down?\"
+ \... 
+- Q: Do you have to have a process running on the web server to
+ recieve requests?
+ - A: Nope\-- just a cron job
+- Q: I think perhaps you are doing too much inside of emacs?
+ - A: When I started, I thought that I was so close with the OOTB
+ (out of the box) features. 
+- Q: Say you start out using webmentions-as-a-service (webmention.io,
+ telegraph.p3k.io) and then you want to chnge endpoint, whether to a
+ different service, or to your own new server with a CGI script or
+ something. Will that work smoothly, do you think, or will there be
+ mentions piling up at your old address?
+ - A: Should be fine, unless your senders are doing something very
+ odd
+- Q:Have you seen <https://github.com/AgregoreWeb/agregore-browser> It
+ is a decentrilized kiss browser. Using some of the peer to peer
+ protocols used whithin this could be useful for propgating stuff
+ like webmentions.
+ - A: No, I haven\'t (but I will soon!).
+
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