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- Option 2: Hardware for handwriting available
+# Discussion
+
+## Notes
+
+- Tesseract is a free and open source tool to do OCR (may or may not
+ convert handwriting)
+ - <https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tesseract>
+- Karl Voit: I\'m not practicing handwritten OCR at the moment. From
+ what I\'ve read, offline handwriting OCR (offline OCR = not
+ recognizing while writing but form a (scanned) document) is only
+ implemented in a good way in highly proprietary services such as
+ Microsoft OneNote and Evernote and Apple Notes. Since I don\'t use
+ those services on purpose
+ (<https://karl-voit.at/2018/04/21/end-of-OneNote/>), I don\'t have
+ personal experience. I\'m still hoping that there will be a FOSS
+ solution one fine day.
+ - I\'m (rarely) taking notes on my BOOX Note Air e-ink tablet
+ (which I love). It has decent on-device offline-OCR but it\'s
+ really tedious to use it. So usually, I keep the notes as PDF
+ file and don\'t care to OCR it. Not great but at the moment I
+ can live with it.
+ - After all: I\'m much faster when typing on my keyboard
+ (<https://karl-voit.at/2021/03/21/advantage2-plans/>) - so if
+ there is no graphical information to be captured, I\'m faster
+ typing in Org mode than writing by hand.
+- <https://capture2text.sourceforge.net/> \-- another potential OCR
+ solution that is FOSS, but supported only on Windows OS
+- mathpix seems to support OCR now as well:
+ - <https://mathpix.com/blog/mathpix-text-ocr>
+ - <https://mathpix.com/handwriting-recognition>
+- Leo Vivier owns an e-ink tablet: Boox Max Lumi (almost A4-size,
+ bigger brother of Boox Note Air)
+- Digital pens and digitizing platforms help to get your notes from
+ analogue into digital form: 
+ - [[https://www.wired.com/gallery/best-smart-pens/]{.underline}](https://www.wired.com/gallery/best-smart-pens/)
+ - Also, livescript uses special pens and tablets (erasable and
+ correctable)
+
+- [LiveScribe](https://www.amazon.com/Livescribe-Single-Subject-Notebook-4-pack/dp/B001AALJ1I/ref=asc\_df\_B001AALJ1I/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167151358503&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14286771041209503377&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9027973&hvtargid=pla-359920653567&psc=1)
+
+## Questions and answers
+
+- Q: How do you link the notes together so that you could search
+ through them in the future?
+ - A: From text device or text then into an OCR method then through
+ Org-Roam. Paper to Jpeg photo from phone to OneNote to Org Mode
+ system.
+- Q: Is it necessary to OCR your handwriting or change the way you
+ write to use your workflow? 
+ - A: Yes, you have to do this to facilitate indexing and linking. 
+- Q: What about Searching notes, notes to text while being offline
+ - A: only proprietary software like Google Keep and Microsoft
+ OneNote can
+ -        search with OCR, as far as Bala is aware
+- Q:Those articles on notetaking seem interesting. Could we get a link
+ for them
+ - A: Will be Linked in this document above after talk
+- Q:Have you looked at taking handwritted notes on a tablet like
+ Xournal++
+ - A: Not yet,
+- Q: Something to think about is handwritten and org transcribed notes
+ de-duplication for searching, do you want one or the other, both?
+ - A:
+ - side note: org-remark could be useful for this
+ <https://github.com/nobiot/org-remark>
+- Q: How fancy has your handwritten notes import been to org mode,
+ Bullets, TODO , org tables etc\...
+ - A: Bala uses an asterisk on paper when writing tasks, and makes
+ them into org tasks during manual transcription. Would be really
+ cool to OCR org constructs from paper. TODO items etc.
+ - Handwriting helps thinking, speaking with an audience. Computers
+ have led to handwriting being less important, but Bala thinks
+ they\'re very efficient and important :)
+- Q: How often do you instead type in and summarize your notes? Would
+ you consider that a suitable approach for yourself, e.g. at the end
+ of the day?
+ - A: when in a hurry, Bala types notes directly into Org Mode.
+ - not yet established a habit of daily journaling but wants to
+ - handwriting can be easier depending on language/script,
+ non-Roman script
+
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