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- also check out: Gabriel, R. (1996). Patterns of software:
tales from the software community. New York: Oxford
University Press.
- (<https://dreamsongs.com/Files/PatternsOfSoftware.pdf)>
+ (<https://dreamsongs.com/Files/PatternsOfSoftware.pdf>)
- Alexander, C. (1993). *A foreshadowing of 21st century art:
The color and geometry of very early Turkish carpets*. New
York: Oxford University Press.
- - A:
+ - A: The peer answer is excellent. If you are looking for an 'entryway' into Alexander, there is also his essay A City Is Not A Tree, <https://raw.githubusercontent.com/dmvaldman/library/master/essays/Alexander%20-%20A%20City%20Is%20Not%20A%20Tree.pdf>.
- Q2: You are making a great case for the ease-of-use, humanizing, and
empowering aspects of Emacs, but how does this align with the
initial difficulty for many users in learning Emacs? What is the
@@ -111,7 +111,7 @@ Pad:
let them convert others in their midst :)
- Q6: Are there ways to reach out to you after the conference to dig
deeper here?
- - A: gretzuni.com
+ - A: I blog at <https://gretzuni.com>; my professional site is <https://gretagoetz.com>.
- Q7:On the mention of emacs being 'frontierless': Doesn't this
result in a kind of 'characterless' or 'non-definied' space? For
example, if I learn a musical instrument, I am bound by various
@@ -136,10 +136,10 @@ Pad:
for defining/demarcating the self (of course, within a boundary
there can be endless play, but the limits set the 'rules' for
play, and therefore create meaning).Thanks again!
- - Wow - a fellow hermeneuticist?! 
+ - A: Wow - a fellow hermeneuticist?! 
- Haha, yes. In my past life I studied it ;) also studied a lot of
Stiegler too, so was interested to find him in the talk!
- - That is quite uncanny! The combination of the three (plus Emacs)
+ - A: That is quite uncanny! The combination of the three (plus Emacs)
have given me a whole new perspective on life - and I wonder why
Stiegler didn't pursue Free Software more, though he does nod
to it here and there. Do you have any work to share, would you
@@ -152,7 +152,7 @@ Pad:
(especially since hermeneutics is so
underappreciated/underreppresented! so, I always get excited to
hear others talking about it ;)
- - Yes, I know what you are talking about and actually the whole
+ - A: Yes, I know what you are talking about and actually the whole
future - and present - of academe is an interesting question -
haha that I think is related to Emacs, I mean, we do live in the
knowledge age so we need tools to help with this. Ricoeur has a
@@ -170,6 +170,7 @@ Pad:
he had in mind with Xandadu; well, with the limitation that
org-roam only serves Personal Information Management, not
our civilisations' as he intended with Xanadu.
+ - A: That's an interesting point - and related to how org-roam writer Leo is now extending org-roam to collaborative work as he explains in his talk <https://emacsconf.org/2021/talks/erg/>.
- Yes! the feeling is mutual :) I really love Ricoeur's general
style and approach to questions. Unfortunately he didn't write
much about technology itself, which made my job quite difficult!
@@ -181,7 +182,7 @@ Pad:
computers (with writing being a core activity of the self for
Ricoeur). Also, I just wish I had emacs instead of just writing
so many academic papers in microsoft word! 
- - Ha! Yes, the moment of being freed from that software box and
+ - A: Yes, the moment of being freed from that software box and
having all the LaTeX options in Emacs (here, I list my fave) is
like stepping into technicolor out of black and white - to this
day, I still feel that way! So much you wrote is interesting.
@@ -195,16 +196,16 @@ Pad:
- wow, yes, that is so interesting. I never considered the
question of desire and emacs until your talk, and it was
definitely one of the most interesting parts!
- -  In my work I was also mostly interested in Freud (the role of
+ In my work I was also mostly interested in Freud (the role of
'technique' in psychoanalysis) and also Foucault's later
lectures on hermeneutics of the self/technologies of the self.
The angle of 'desire' in relation to personal
configuration/design was so interesting to me and like an
'aha' moment. I'll definitely be thinking about it more!
Thank you so much again for the talk and all the responses!
- - Thank you too, and hope we'll be in touch!
+ - A: Thank you too, and hope we'll be in touch!
- Yes :) enjoy the rest of the conference!
- - Likewise :)
+ - A: Likewise :)
- Q8: What was that Crichton quote? That was neat! (From the
references - Crichton, M. (1983). *Electronic life*. New York:
Knopf.)
@@ -212,17 +213,17 @@ Pad:
- Q9: Greta, you seem to be an academic researcher. Any of your
publications or other good references on this topic that you can
share/link here?
-- I hate linking to DOIs, but here are two:
+- Here are two:
- <https://doi.org/10.1080/00131857.2021.1962706> A song of teaching
with free software in the Anthropocene
-- DOI 10.1007/s42438-020-00188-3 The Odyssey of Pedagogies of
- Technoscientific Literacies
+- <https://10.1007/s42438-020-00188-3> The odyssey of pedagogies of
+ technoscientific literacies
**Links and other notes:**
- Design Pattern: macro solution; human-centered
- Emacs is a design pattern for learning.
-- Why we care about design patterns?
+- Why do we care about design patterns?
- Emacs as a mental map.
- Everyone's Emacs is their own.
- The development of the Emacs communitiy is similar to the [free]
@@ -235,7 +236,8 @@ IRC:
- if I may ask, what's the little toy figure in the background, looks nice :D
- A wooden (fake) Transformer :)
- do you think emacs could have implemented with this design pattern, but in another programming language?
-
+ - Emacs Lisp as a dialect of Lisp shares its philosophical qualities. I often think about what Norvig wrote about Lisp back in the day, e.g. <https://www.norvig.com/lisp_talk_final.htm>, and while there are some people who feel strongly that Lisp's time is passed, I think that Emacs shows that it is the opposite: that we haven't fully taken advantage of Lisp's potential. Another example would be what Rick Hickey has done with Clojure, and recommend his talk Are We There Yet, <https://github.com/matthiasn/talk-transcripts/blob/master/Hickey_Rich/AreWeThereYet.md>.
+
Feedback:
- That's a great point about the sketches, and why Emacs graphical improvements are important.