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 # The use of Org mode syntax outside of GNU/Emacs
 Karl Voit
 
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 With the rising interest in Org mode, the GNU/Emacs community gained
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 Text Documents](https://karl-voit.at/2021/11/27/orgdown/) for further
 information.
 
+# Discussion
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+IRC nick: publicvoit
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+- is there a tree-sitter parser for orgdown already? :P
+- it seems to me that as org evolves, either orgdown eventually becomes incompatible with org or org is prevented from changing because it would break orgdown. I guess backcompat with existing org documents constrains org-mode this way already, though
+- what level would you call github's implementation is?
+- i'm not sure if we want a proliferation of org-syntaxes like markdown's
+- Disentangling "org" the markup language and "org"/"org-mode" the piece of software that runs inside Emacs is long overdue
+- I gotta say, why "Orgdown" and not just "Org"? That way we've got "Org" (the markup syntax) and "Org-Mode", the mode for that. Just delineate the mode from the thing the mode handles.
+  - there was a move in the opposite direction, using "Org" instead of "Org-mode" for the piece of software that runs inside Emacs, which to me is where the problem arises...
+- +1 for "org" aas the format name, and the (already present) derived handling of the format being org-mode! To be clear, +1000000% in favour of this generally.
+- Next year. Talk on presenting org as a mime-type.  Who?
+  - it's officially being considered as a 'thing to be done or at least talked about', but I don't have a better status than that.
+- I think the org/orgdown split makes sense: orgdown stripped-down org
+- Why GitLab? GitLab.com requires reCAPTCHA to sign up, and nonfree cloudflare js to sign in
+  - publicvoit: I wanted to test an alternative to GitHub which I was using so far.
+    - I recommend codeberg.org, notabug.org, sr.ht, or savannah.nongnu.org
+- already uses the ".org.txt" file extension, so that tools that don't otherwise support the org file type will at the very least read them
+- sorry to have missed out on the discussion during your talk, but I'm extremely interested in getting org working outside elisp (re: https://github.com/tgbugs/laundry/tree/next). I started there long ago, at this point the issues that really need standardization is org-babel, but in order to do that we need the syntax settled, which has turned out to be a _lot_ of work
+- having orgdown as a way to talk about files that have org syntax seems like it is a critical piece for effective outreach
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 # Outline
 
 - The term Org mode stands for different things