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00:06:32.239 +Project Action Review + +00:06:32.240 --> 00:07:02.318 +Causal Layered Analysis + +00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:42.879 +Design Patterns and Next Steps + +00:07:42.880 --> 00:07:53.598 +Projects + +00:07:53.599 --> 00:08:24.559 +Patterns of Patterns (PLoP 2021) + +00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:57.518 +PLACARD Workshop roles + +00:08:57.519 --> 00:09:38.479 +Initial user studies + +00:09:38.480 --> 00:10:08.559 +Broader context + +00:10:08.560 --> 00:10:09.560 +Conclusion diff --git a/2021/captions/emacsconf-2021-erg--emacs-research-group-season-zero-what-we-did-together-with-emacs-in-2-hours-a-week-for-a-year--noorah-alhasan-joe-corneli-raymond-puzio-leo-vivier--main.vtt b/2021/captions/emacsconf-2021-erg--emacs-research-group-season-zero-what-we-did-together-with-emacs-in-2-hours-a-week-for-a-year--noorah-alhasan-joe-corneli-raymond-puzio-leo-vivier--main.vtt new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b450f532 --- /dev/null +++ b/2021/captions/emacsconf-2021-erg--emacs-research-group-season-zero-what-we-did-together-with-emacs-in-2-hours-a-week-for-a-year--noorah-alhasan-joe-corneli-raymond-puzio-leo-vivier--main.vtt @@ -0,0 +1,1054 @@ +WEBVTT + +00:00.880 --> 00:02.720 +[Raymond Puzio]: Hello, I'm Raymond Puzio. + +00:02.720 --> 00:04.799 +I first learned about Emacs and Lisp + +00:04.799 --> 00:05.920 +at an enrichment program + +00:05.920 --> 00:07.200 +for high school students. + +00:07.200 --> 00:09.120 +When I studied physics at the university, + +00:09.120 --> 00:10.400 +I used Emacs and Tex + +00:10.400 --> 00:12.320 +to write mathematical documents. + +00:12.320 --> 00:13.920 +Later on, I became active + +00:13.920 --> 00:16.480 +in Emacs and Lisp user groups where, + +00:16.480 --> 00:18.160 +among other things, I learned about + +00:18.160 --> 00:20.400 +Org mode for reproducible research. + +00:20.400 --> 00:21.680 +Nowadays, I am working on + +00:21.680 --> 00:24.080 +synthesizing Emacs and other programs + +00:24.080 --> 00:25.599 +into an end-to-end platform + +00:25.599 --> 00:30.560 +for scientific research and collaboration. + +00:30.560 --> 00:31.519 +[Joe Corneli]: I'm Joe Corneli. + +00:31.519 --> 00:33.920 +I also started using Emacs in high school + +00:33.920 --> 00:35.440 +in a course on C programming, + +00:35.440 --> 00:36.800 +and now I'm technically + +00:36.800 --> 00:38.239 +a computer scientist. + +00:38.239 --> 00:39.280 +My research background + +00:39.280 --> 00:43.120 +is in mathematics and online communities. + +00:43.120 --> 00:45.039 +[Noorah Alhasan]: Hi, I'm Noorah Alhasan. + +00:45.039 --> 00:46.719 +I'm a member of the ERG group + +00:46.719 --> 00:49.600 +and a PhD student at UT Austin + +00:49.600 --> 00:51.760 +studying climate policy. + +00:51.760 --> 00:54.239 +So for this talk, the four of us + +00:54.239 --> 00:56.640 +met at EmacsConf 2020 last year + +00:56.640 --> 00:57.760 +with a common interest + +00:57.760 --> 00:59.520 +in Emacs and research. + +00:59.520 --> 01:01.760 +we've met almost every week since then + +01:01.760 --> 01:02.640 +because we wanted to + +01:02.640 --> 01:04.479 +keep the conversation going. + +01:04.479 --> 01:05.519 +In this short talk, + +01:05.519 --> 01:06.560 +we share information + +01:06.560 --> 01:08.240 +about the methods we use. + +01:08.240 --> 01:09.680 +Here's the outline of our talk. + +01:09.680 --> 01:10.560 +First, we'll tell you + +01:10.560 --> 01:12.320 +about the technologies we use + +01:12.320 --> 01:13.840 +and show a short demo video + +01:13.840 --> 01:15.360 +from one of the meetings. + +01:15.360 --> 01:16.320 +We'll then focus on + +01:16.320 --> 01:18.880 +the time and content structuring methods + +01:18.880 --> 01:21.040 +we use in our live sessions. + +01:21.040 --> 01:22.240 +Finally, we'll talk about + +01:22.240 --> 01:24.320 +what came out of all this work. + +01:24.320 --> 01:28.159 +For example, we wrote a paper for the + +01:28.159 --> 01:30.400 +Pattern Languages of Programs conference, + +01:30.400 --> 01:31.759 +and we designed a workshop + +01:31.759 --> 01:33.920 +using the knowledge we created together. + +01:33.920 --> 01:35.600 +Very practically, + +01:35.600 --> 01:37.119 +this has improved the quality + +01:37.119 --> 01:38.640 +of our own collaboration + +01:38.640 --> 01:39.680 +and we have some lessons + +01:39.680 --> 01:41.360 +about how you can create + +01:41.360 --> 00:01:45.999 +a research community similar to ours. + +01:46.000 --> 01:48.399 +[Joe]: You'll have noticed that we all have + +01:48.399 --> 01:50.159 +different research backgrounds + +01:50.159 --> 01:52.640 +and we do think that transdisciplinarity + +01:52.640 --> 01:54.960 +is important for solving big problems. + +01:54.960 --> 01:56.719 +However, if you have people + +01:56.719 --> 01:58.000 +from different research backgrounds + +01:58.000 --> 01:58.560 +working together, + +01:58.560 --> 01:59.680 +they need some scaffolding, + +01:59.680 --> 02:01.360 +both in terms of tools and methods, + +02:01.360 --> 02:02.880 +to have good conversations. + +02:02.880 --> 02:04.320 +And of course, as Emacs users, + +02:04.320 --> 02:05.439 +we wanted to have Emacs + +02:05.439 --> 02:07.360 +at the center of that. + +02:07.360 --> 02:08.640 +Being in a meeting, + +02:08.640 --> 02:10.720 +taking real-time notes + +02:10.720 --> 02:11.920 +collaboratively with Emacs + +02:11.920 --> 02:13.440 +realizes a dream that some of us + +02:13.440 --> 02:14.480 +have been entertaining + +02:14.480 --> 02:15.520 +(and experimenting with) + +02:15.520 --> 02:18.800 +for a while. The package crdt.el + +02:18.800 --> 02:21.440 +by Qiantan Hong makes this easy. + +02:21.440 --> 02:22.959 +We take notes in our meetings + +02:22.959 --> 02:24.239 +using Org Mode. + +02:24.239 --> 02:25.520 +Since we've seen this before + +02:25.520 --> 02:27.040 +in talks on reproducible research, + +02:27.040 --> 02:29.920 +and since Leo is the maintainer of org-roam, + +02:29.920 --> 02:31.680 +it was a natural choice for us. + +02:31.680 --> 02:32.400 +It allows us to + +02:32.400 --> 02:34.080 +put our notes online using git + +02:34.080 --> 02:36.080 +and the static state generator Firn. + +02:36.080 --> 02:37.599 +And lastly, of course, we need + +02:37.599 --> 02:38.720 +a real-time meeting tool. + +02:38.720 --> 02:39.519 +For that purpose, + +02:39.519 --> 02:41.920 +we use BBB in our weekly sessions + +02:41.920 --> 02:43.519 +(in fact, we use the same server + +02:43.519 --> 02:44.879 +that's used by EmacsConf, + +02:44.879 --> 02:46.720 +thanks again to Leo). + +02:46.720 --> 02:48.000 +All of these tools are + +02:48.000 --> 02:49.380 +free/libre/open source. + +02:49.380 --> 02:50.720 +However, BBB does have + +02:50.720 --> 00:02:53.679 +some intensive hardware requirements. + +02:53.680 --> 02:54.800 +Next up, here's a + +02:54.800 --> 02:56.239 +short pre-recorded snippet + +02:56.239 --> 02:57.680 +from one of our recent meetings + +02:57.680 --> 03:01.840 +so you can get a sense of how they go. + +03:01.840 --> 03:02.640 +[Demo - Leo Vivier]: Are we okay + +03:02.640 --> 03:04.159 +pushing the demo to the end? + +03:04.159 --> 03:05.440 +That kind of presupposes + +03:05.440 --> 03:07.120 +a different structure + +03:07.120 --> 03:08.080 +that you would usually have + +03:08.080 --> 03:08.800 +in a presentation. + +03:08.800 --> 03:09.760 +Generally you have... + +03:09.760 --> 03:12.800 +You introduce the demo, you do the demo, + +03:12.800 --> 03:14.720 +and then you do the conclusions, + +03:14.720 --> 03:16.560 +or what was good about the demo. + +03:16.560 --> 03:18.159 +Does that make sense to everyone? + +03:18.159 --> 03:18.560 +[Ray]: Let's see. + +03:18.560 --> 03:19.599 +When you usually do that, + +03:19.599 --> 03:21.760 +that's because whatever you're demonstrating + +03:21.760 --> 03:23.840 +is the main point of your talk, + +03:23.840 --> 03:25.840 +so if this was a talk about action reviews, + +03:25.840 --> 03:29.760 +that would make sense, but isn't it not ERG? + +03:29.760 --> 03:32.319 +[Leo]: But it's because we are telling... + +03:32.319 --> 03:34.400 +For me, I think it's a compound element. + +03:34.400 --> 03:36.640 +Yes, we are demonstrating the power, + +03:36.640 --> 03:37.840 +but we are also demonstrating + +03:37.840 --> 03:39.680 +how we're working together by... + +03:39.680 --> 03:42.000 +Yes, we might have introduced CRDT before + +03:42.000 --> 03:43.840 +in the presentation itself, + +03:43.840 --> 03:46.959 +but if we need to be doing the power, + +03:46.959 --> 03:49.360 +and also showing tools like CRDT, + +03:49.360 --> 03:50.879 +obviously, we're not... probably not going + +03:50.879 --> 03:52.959 +to be talking about... oh by the way, + +03:52.959 --> 03:54.239 +here we are using CRDT + +03:54.239 --> 03:54.879 +and stuff like this. + +03:54.879 --> 03:57.280 +It feels like cramming a lot of stuff + +03:57.280 --> 03:58.720 +into this demo at the end. + +03:58.720 --> 04:00.159 +[Joe]: So I think demo to me + +04:00.159 --> 04:02.159 +is less about demoing one of the methods, + +04:02.159 --> 04:02.879 +because then people will get + +04:02.879 --> 04:05.439 +a bit hung up on that. + +04:05.439 --> 04:07.360 +I think the demo... + +04:07.360 --> 04:08.080 +You know, to be honest, + +04:08.080 --> 04:09.200 +here's another thing. + +04:09.200 --> 04:09.920 +What we could do-- + +04:09.920 --> 04:10.959 +this would be very clever-- + +04:10.959 --> 04:12.400 +we could make this the demo, + +04:12.400 --> 04:13.920 +what we're doing right now, + +04:13.920 --> 04:15.519 +writing this talk is the demo, + +04:15.519 --> 04:18.560 +and just go back into the video + +04:18.560 --> 04:20.160 +and just get out a two-minute section, + +04:20.160 --> 04:22.479 +so we say, look we tried to write this talk, + +04:22.479 --> 04:23.680 +we went around, had a discussion, + +04:23.680 --> 04:25.040 +we had these things and then we just take... + +04:25.040 --> 04:26.240 +We're going to pick two minutes + +04:26.240 --> 04:26.880 +out of this video + +04:26.880 --> 04:27.440 +and show you that + +04:27.440 --> 04:29.280 +as a demo of how we actually work + +04:29.280 --> 04:30.320 +and then we'll go back to the talk. + +04:30.320 --> 04:31.199 +I mean, it'd be very funny, + +04:31.199 --> 04:32.880 +and then we've already done the demo. + +04:32.880 --> 04:34.560 +It's just, like... uh yeah, + +04:34.560 --> 04:35.280 +then we're good to go. + +04:35.280 --> 04:37.120 +And it's got neural lines on the floor. + +04:37.120 --> 04:39.199 +It's like a perfect writer's room. + +04:39.199 --> 04:41.199 +It's a total amazing writer's room scenario, + +04:41.199 --> 04:43.120 +specifically because she's lying on her back + +04:43.120 --> 04:45.360 +on the floor. Anyway. I mean, + +04:45.360 --> 04:47.680 +I think this would be fine. + +04:47.680 --> 04:49.520 +[Leo]: I think I particularly like the idea + +04:49.520 --> 04:52.080 +of taking the snippet, + +04:52.080 --> 04:54.000 +the two minutes before the realization + +04:54.000 --> 04:56.400 +that we could be using this as the demo, + +04:56.400 --> 05:00.240 +and then seeing the... well my face light up + +05:00.240 --> 05:01.680 +because it feels like a good idea, + +05:01.680 --> 05:03.360 +and Joe gets excited about this. + +05:03.360 --> 05:04.720 +I think this could be a good demo, + +05:04.720 --> 05:07.120 +and I think this would be + +05:07.120 --> 05:08.479 +a very genuine demonstration + +05:08.479 --> 05:09.360 +of how we work here + +05:09.360 --> 05:10.400 +and how we get excited about + +05:10.400 --> 00:05:13.599 +some of our ideas sometimes. + +05:13.600 --> 05:14.639 +[Noorah]: In the demo, + +05:14.639 --> 05:16.240 +you saw a very improvised + +05:16.240 --> 05:18.000 +free-flowing conversation. + +05:18.000 --> 05:19.840 +In order to have this kind of conversation + +05:19.840 --> 05:20.960 +and still get things done, + +05:20.960 --> 05:23.520 +we need a pretty rigorous structure in place + +05:23.520 --> 05:26.000 +at the bigger scale of the meetings. + +05:26.000 --> 05:27.120 +This involves both + +05:27.120 --> 05:31.280 +a timetable for the meetings + +05:31.280 --> 00:05:35.119 +and some review and planning processes. + +05:35.120 --> 05:36.320 +[Joe]: Just to say a little bit more + +05:36.320 --> 05:40.160 +about the timetable, if you could go back, + +05:40.160 --> 05:42.320 +the meetings are generally following + +05:42.320 --> 05:45.199 +a structure as we have up on the screen + +05:45.199 --> 05:46.479 +of informal check-ins + +05:46.479 --> 05:48.400 +followed by any announcements, + +05:48.400 --> 05:50.960 +and then two topics, at most two topics, + +05:50.960 --> 05:52.560 +with a break in the middle. + +05:52.560 --> 05:54.800 +The whole thing takes about two hours, + +05:54.800 --> 05:56.400 +and we meet weekly. + +05:56.400 --> 05:58.160 +The consistency of these meetings + +05:58.160 --> 05:58.800 +is really important + +05:58.800 --> 00:06:00.719 +for how the group works. + +06:00.720 --> 06:02.560 +[Ray]: At at the end of every meeting, + +06:02.560 --> 06:03.600 +we ask and answer + +06:03.600 --> 06:04.800 +a series of questions + +06:04.800 --> 06:07.120 +adapted from the ‘After Action Review’ + +06:07.120 --> 06:08.880 +developed by the United States Army + +06:08.880 --> 06:10.800 +in their training programs, + +06:10.800 --> 06:13.840 +and also used in some business contexts. + +06:13.840 --> 06:15.759 +The adaptation we use here + +06:15.759 --> 06:17.440 +came out of the Peeragogy project, + +06:17.440 --> 06:19.600 +which some of us have been involved with + +06:19.600 --> 06:22.160 +since 2012, and it's designed to be + +06:22.160 --> 06:24.560 +less hierarchical than the army's review. + +06:24.560 --> 06:26.960 +By writing down and sharing these reviews, + +06:26.960 --> 06:28.240 +we create a resource + +06:28.240 --> 06:29.600 +for further peer learning + +06:29.600 --> 00:06:32.239 +later down the line. + +06:32.240 --> 06:33.280 +[Joe]: So, specifically, + +06:33.280 --> 06:34.560 +every six weeks or so, + +06:34.560 --> 06:35.840 +we look at the transcripts + +06:35.840 --> 06:37.360 +from the previous action reviews + +06:37.360 --> 06:39.120 +using a four-layered framework + +06:39.120 --> 06:41.199 +that comes from future studies, + +06:41.199 --> 06:42.560 +and we use this to better understand + +06:42.560 --> 06:43.759 +the underlying themes + +06:43.759 --> 06:44.880 +that surface in the reviews + +06:44.880 --> 06:46.479 +and to develop the deeper motivations + +06:46.479 --> 06:48.160 +for ongoing work together. + +06:48.160 --> 06:49.680 +This helps us get a big-picture sense + +06:49.680 --> 06:50.720 +of where we're going, + +06:50.720 --> 06:51.840 +and we can keep that up to date + +06:51.840 --> 06:52.720 +at a slower pace + +06:52.720 --> 06:54.479 +than we do in the weekly meetings. + +06:54.479 --> 06:55.759 +This also helps us tie our work + +06:55.759 --> 06:56.880 +into a broader context + +06:56.880 --> 06:57.759 +and gives us some hope + +06:57.759 --> 06:59.919 +that over time we can contribute to + +06:59.919 --> 00:07:02.318 +solving big problems. + +07:02.319 --> 07:02.880 +[Ray]: Going back + +07:02.880 --> 07:04.880 +to solving larger problems. + +07:04.880 --> 07:06.560 +When we carry out the analysis, + +07:06.560 --> 07:08.400 +we don't just think about what happened + +07:08.400 --> 07:09.440 +at previous meetings, + +07:09.440 --> 07:11.520 +but we also take a longer view, + +07:11.520 --> 07:12.960 +thinking about things such as + +07:12.960 --> 07:15.680 +structuring a community of collaborators, + +07:15.680 --> 07:16.960 +or building platforms + +07:16.960 --> 07:18.720 +for scientific research. + +07:18.720 --> 07:20.080 +We want to think about how + +07:20.080 --> 07:21.120 +what we have been doing + +07:21.120 --> 07:23.599 +fits into broader historical patterns + +07:23.599 --> 07:24.720 +and trends. + +07:24.720 --> 07:27.120 +In the past, the pattern is a + +07:27.120 --> 07:28.240 +historical pattern; + +07:28.240 --> 07:30.000 +in the present, we contextualize + +07:30.000 --> 07:32.400 +what we learned about designed futures; + +07:32.400 --> 07:34.639 +towards the future, we use these patterns + +07:34.639 --> 07:37.440 +to augment our big-picture analysis + +07:37.440 --> 07:38.800 +with the next steps. + +07:38.800 --> 00:07:42.879 +This helps keep us on track. + +07:42.880 --> 07:44.720 +[Noorah]: Okay. So we have been working on + +07:44.720 --> 07:46.160 +several projects: a paper + +07:46.160 --> 07:47.280 +for the pattern conference + +07:47.280 --> 07:48.240 +mentioned earlier, + +07:48.240 --> 07:50.080 +a workshop, and a user study, + +07:50.080 --> 07:51.280 +and we'll say a little bit more + +07:51.280 --> 00:07:53.598 +about these. + +07:53.599 --> 07:56.319 +We co-authored a paper + +07:56.319 --> 07:57.919 +that touches on all of the topics + +07:57.919 --> 07:58.960 +we mentioned earlier + +07:58.960 --> 08:01.120 +and presented it at the leading conference + +08:01.120 --> 08:02.080 +on Design Patterns + +08:02.080 --> 08:04.000 +for programs and programming. + +08:04.000 --> 08:09.520 +One of the case studies in the paper + +08:09.520 --> 08:12.960 +sums up the way we work in ERG. + +08:12.960 --> 08:16.000 +The paper puts ERG in context + +08:16.000 --> 08:17.520 +with other peer learning communities, + +08:17.520 --> 08:18.960 +and we aim to describe + +08:18.960 --> 08:20.160 +our way of working + +08:20.160 --> 08:22.720 +in a way that others would find accessible + +08:22.720 --> 00:08:24.559 +and potentially useful. + +08:24.560 --> 08:25.680 +We are also developing + +08:25.680 --> 08:27.039 +an interactive workshop + +08:27.039 --> 08:28.800 +based on the ideas in the paper, + +08:28.800 --> 08:31.039 +which we piloted at the PLoP conference. + +08:31.039 --> 08:32.479 +Our intent with the workshop + +08:32.479 --> 08:34.800 +was to build a method + +08:34.800 --> 08:36.240 +for rapid problem solving, + +08:36.240 --> 08:37.839 +which could, at least in principle, + +08:37.839 --> 08:40.159 +expand beyond the workshop setting + +08:40.159 --> 08:41.839 +to distributed networks. + +08:41.839 --> 08:44.080 +The workshop involves made-up roles, + +08:44.080 --> 08:45.440 +like a kaiju communicator + +08:45.440 --> 08:46.800 +who helps understand problems + +08:46.800 --> 08:47.839 +as they arise. + +08:47.839 --> 08:49.760 +We also realize that it has given us + +08:49.760 --> 08:51.279 +a lot of wealth for thinking about + +08:51.279 --> 00:08:57.518 +the roles we take on in our weekly meetings. + +08:57.519 --> 08:59.920 +[Ray]: Free software may be lacking + +08:59.920 --> 09:01.200 +on ‘user’ aspects. + +09:01.200 --> 09:02.720 +People too often program + +09:02.720 --> 09:04.320 +to scratch their own itches, + +09:04.320 --> 09:06.720 +and assume others will do the same. + +09:06.720 --> 09:09.360 +To deal with this, we did several things. + +09:09.360 --> 09:11.040 +We looked at user experience + +09:11.040 --> 09:12.160 +and development together + +09:12.160 --> 09:13.760 +to see how the process went + +09:13.760 --> 09:15.440 +and where the gaps might be. + +09:15.440 --> 09:17.600 +We compared Emacs with other platforms, + +09:17.600 --> 09:19.279 +not just a technical level, + +09:19.279 --> 09:21.440 +but also at the user experience level. + +09:21.440 --> 09:22.640 +We had guest sessions, + +09:22.640 --> 09:25.440 +where we've started to gather user stories. + +09:25.440 --> 09:26.880 +Building on these conversations, + +09:26.880 --> 09:28.480 +we would like to do more research + +09:28.480 --> 09:29.839 +in all these topics, + +09:29.839 --> 09:30.959 +and eventually be able to + +09:30.959 --> 09:32.160 +say something like: + +09:32.160 --> 09:34.160 +‘If you are someone who does X, + +09:34.160 --> 09:35.279 +these are the packages + +09:35.279 --> 00:09:38.479 +that would work for you.’ + +09:38.480 --> 09:40.640 +[Joe]: Putting these ideas into practice, + +09:40.640 --> 09:42.880 +our PLoP paper and the plans it contains + +09:42.880 --> 09:43.680 +become a /template/ + +09:43.680 --> 09:44.720 +for some of the other things + +09:44.720 --> 09:45.600 +we want to work on + +09:45.600 --> 09:46.880 +as we go forward. + +09:46.880 --> 09:49.120 +If we imagine things in 2-3 years, + +09:49.120 --> 09:49.920 +what would it actually take + +09:49.920 --> 09:52.240 +to realize the vision from that paper? + +09:52.240 --> 09:53.200 +Thinking about the future: + +09:53.200 --> 09:54.480 +this is one of the main reasons why + +09:54.480 --> 09:55.839 +we want to share these ideas + +09:55.839 --> 09:56.800 +and invite other people + +09:56.800 --> 09:58.160 +into this way of working. + +09:58.160 --> 09:59.600 +There's no way we can actually achieve + +09:59.600 --> 10:00.560 +everything in our vision + +10:00.560 --> 10:02.160 +if we work all by ourselves. + +10:02.160 --> 10:03.200 +What we've been focusing on + +10:03.200 --> 10:05.120 +in Season Zero of the Emacs Research Group + +10:05.120 --> 10:06.640 +is methods that people can use + +10:06.640 --> 00:10:08.559 +to organize their own research groups. + +10:08.560 --> 10:10.000 +We decided to share this talk + +10:10.000 --> 10:12.079 +so that folks can learn from our community. + +10:12.079 --> 10:13.040 +Our goal has been to share + +10:13.040 --> 10:14.000 +how we've been doing things, + +10:14.000 --> 10:14.959 +and we hope this information + +10:14.959 --> 10:16.079 +is useful for you + +10:16.079 --> 10:18.800 +in your own communities and collaborations. + +10:18.800 --> 10:19.262 +Thank you. + +10:19.262 --> 10:20.279 +[captions by speakers and sachac] |