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+Hello, I'm Richard Stallman,
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+founder of the GNU project. In 1976, I
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+developed the first
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+Emacs editor with some help from Guy
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+Steele.
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+Then, shortly after starting to develop
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+the GNU operating system in 1984,
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+I wanted an Emacs editor for it.
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+So I started writing GNU Emacs in
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+September
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+1984.
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+Several years ago we decided to move
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+many of the Emacs Lisp packages outside
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+the core
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+Emacs distribution into a separate
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+package archive that we call the Emacs
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+Lisp
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+package archive ELPA.
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+There were two main reasons for this. One
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+is to make the Emacs distribution smaller
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+so every user wouldn't have to get all
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+the packages
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+and install all the packages. And the
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+other reason was to make it possible to
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+release
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+individual packages separately
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+from Emacs releases.
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+Now, at that point somehow we decided to
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+support loading packages from
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+a variety of different Emacs Lisp
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+package archives
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+and ours would be called the GNU ELPA,
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+but ELPA could be any other.
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+Now, I think that naming was a mistake. We
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+should have
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+meant, we should have decided that ELPA
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+referred to our package archive
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+and any other package archive should be
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+called some other name.
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+Oh, well! Uh this
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+is a mistake I believe, because it leads
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+to a lot of confusion it would have been
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+clearer
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+if we had uh used the other naming.
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+Because the difference between having a
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+package in
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+core Emacs and having it in GNU ELPA,
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+is purely a practical convenience matter.
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+Convenience of distribution and
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+convenience of maintenance.
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+We wanted to be able to move packages
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+between the two
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+whenever that was convenient. So, to make
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+that possible
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+we insisted on getting copyright
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+assignments for packages in GNU ELPA
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+just the same way we do for packages in
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+core Emacs.
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+Having the facility for installing
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+packages from package archives,
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+led to a tremendous boost in the
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+development and release of Emacs packages.
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+Unfortunately there was a problem with
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+the way that was done.
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+For the most part, the developers of
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+these packages
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+wouldn't even tell us about them. They
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+posted them
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+in another package archive where we
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+didn't know about them
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+and (where they) no attempt was made to
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+try to fit them
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+into Emacs so that they could make sense
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+as parts of the Emacs distribution.
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+This led to both moral problems,
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+packages that depended on non-free
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+software in order to be usable
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+and technical problems because the
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+developers of those packages didn't
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+coordinate with us
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+about how to make it useful and
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+convenient and clean to have them
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+in Emacs.
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+So, the idea of NonGNU ELPA
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+is an effort to smooth these things
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+out. The fundamental plan of
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+NonGNU ELPA is that,
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+we won't ask for copyright assignments
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+for those packages.
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+So, we won't be able to put them into
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+core Emacs;
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+at least not easily, but we will
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+have some control over how we distribute
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+them.
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+We can put any package into
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+NonGNU ELPA as long as it's free
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+software.
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+If we like it we can
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+set up that way for users to get it.
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+We could put the package in exactly as
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+it is
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+if there's no problem at all with it.
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+We can make an arrangement with the
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+package's developers
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+to work on it with us and maintain it
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+directly for distribution by NonGNU
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+ELPA
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+but if they are not interested we can
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+put it in
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+ourselves and if we need to make any
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+changes we can do so.
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+So, NonGNU ELPA
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+is not meant to be just a way
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+that others can distribute their
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+packages.
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+It's meant at least in a minimal
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+technical
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+sense to work with GNU Emacs, and we'll
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+make changes if necessary so that it
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+works smoothly with
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+Emacs. And
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+this means that we're going to maintain
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+it differently
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+from GNU ELPA. Well, GNU ELPA
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+is hosted in a way that is actually
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+rather inconvenient.
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+It is one single Git repository.
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+And so anybody that has access to write
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+it
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+can write any part of it. There are many
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+different packages in there maintained
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+by different people,
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+and we have no way to give each one of
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+them access to per own package
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+and not to the others. Well, with NonGNU
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+ELPA we plan to fix that. The idea is to
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+have
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+a single Git repository where you can
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+download various packages from.
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+But, they won't be maintained there. Each
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+of those packages will be
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+copied automatically from some other
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+place.
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+Probably some other repository where
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+the right people have access to work on
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+it.
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+And this way we can avoid giving a
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+gigantic number of people
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+access to every part of it.
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+So far NonGNU ELPA is just a plan,
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+we need people to implement the plan.
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+So, if you would like to help please
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+write to me.
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+I think this is a very important step
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+for progress
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+and it's got to be implemented.
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+Thanks and happy hacking!
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